Ideal facial ratios and proportions

[Not so adam]

this is an updated version of my previous ideal facial ratios & proportions thread which can be found here

facial width to height ratio (FWHR): 1.8+
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the height of the middle part of the eyebrow to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower/full face ratio: 0.62+
measured by dividing the height between the nasion to the bottom of the chin by the face height (distance from hairline to bottom of the chin)

Spoiler: measurement examples

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midface ratio: 1.0-1.1
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the height of the nasion to the upper lip. the closer to 1:1 this is, the better.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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mouth to nose ratio: 1.5-1.62
measured by dividing the width of the mouth by the width of the nose.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower to upper lip ratio: 1.62
measured by dividing the height of the lower lip to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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chin to philtrum ratio: 2.0-2.25
measured by dividing the height of the middle part of the lips to the bottom of the chin by the height of the bottom of the nose to the middle part of the lips.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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bizygomatic to bigonial width: 1.35
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the bigonial width (distance from gonion to gonion).

Spoiler: measurement examples

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ESR (eye separation ratio): 0.45-0.47
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone). the "third eyeball method" - a theory in which the distance between your eyes should be another eye apart - is widely accepted in determining whether or not your eyes are an appropriate distance away from eachother, however this is flawed and incorrect. here is a thread explaining why, along with some more useful information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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EME (eye mouth eye) angle: 47°-50°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the center of the lips with the arms crossing the eye pupils. the EME angle is a good indicator of masculinity and symmetry. here is a thread with more information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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cervicomental angle: 105°-120°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the hyoid with the arms set along the bottom of the chin and the neck. anything above 120° is said to give the impression of a double chin.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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gonial angle: 115°-130°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the gonion with the arms set along the mandible and the ramus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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canthal tilt: 4°-6°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the medial canthus with the arms set parallel to the floor and the lateral canthus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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palpebral fissure length to height ratio: 3.0-3.5
measured by dividing the palpebral fissure length (distance between the medial to the lateral canthus) by the height of the upper and lower eyelid.

forehead height: 3 fingers
measured by clenching your fingers together and seeing how many you can fit on your forehead horizontally before reaching your hairline.

facial thirds: 1/3 of face length
the upper third (height between the hairline to the middle part of the eyebrows), middle third (height between the middle part of the eyebrows to the bottom of the nose) and lower third (height between the bottom of the nose to bottom of the chin) of the face should be approximately 1/3rd of your entire face length (height between the hairline to bottom of the chin). these facial thirds should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 3 parts as you transition down the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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facial fifths: 1/5 of ear to ear width
the nose width, palpebral fissure length and length between the lateral canthus to the ear should be approximately 1/5th of the width between your ears. these facial fifths should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 5 parts as you transition from left to right of the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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Ropemaxx my only hope

 

[AgonizingAgent]

What app or software to use to calculate, measure distances on face and angles?

 

[Deleted member 91288]

this is an updated version of my previous ideal facial ratios & proportions thread which can be found here

facial width to height ratio (FWHR): 1.8+
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the height of the middle part of the eyebrow to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower/full face ratio: 0.62+
measured by dividing the height between the nasion to the bottom of the chin by the face height (distance from hairline to bottom of the chin)

Spoiler: measurement examples

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midface ratio: 1.0-1.1
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the height of the nasion to the upper lip. the closer to 1:1 this is, the better.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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mouth to nose ratio: 1.5-1.62
measured by dividing the width of the mouth by the width of the nose.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower to upper lip ratio: 1.62
measured by dividing the height of the lower lip to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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chin to philtrum ratio: 2.0-2.25
measured by dividing the height of the middle part of the lips to the bottom of the chin by the height of the bottom of the nose to the middle part of the lips.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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bizygomatic to bigonial width: 1.35
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the bigonial width (distance from gonion to gonion).

Spoiler: measurement examples

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ESR (eye separation ratio): 0.45-0.47
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone). the "third eyeball method" - a theory in which the distance between your eyes should be another eye apart - is widely accepted in determining whether or not your eyes are an appropriate distance away from eachother, however this is flawed and incorrect. here is a thread explaining why, along with some more useful information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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EME (eye mouth eye) angle: 47°-50°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the center of the lips with the arms crossing the eye pupils. the EME angle is a good indicator of masculinity and symmetry. here is a thread with more information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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cervicomental angle: 105°-120°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the hyoid with the arms set along the bottom of the chin and the neck. anything above 120° is said to give the impression of a double chin.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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gonial angle: 115°-130°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the gonion with the arms set along the mandible and the ramus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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canthal tilt: 4°-6°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the medial canthus with the arms set parallel to the floor and the lateral canthus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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palpebral fissure length to height ratio: 3.0-3.5
measured by dividing the palpebral fissure length (distance between the medial to the lateral canthus) by the height of the upper and lower eyelid.

forehead height: 3 fingers
measured by clenching your fingers together and seeing how many you can fit on your forehead horizontally before reaching your hairline.

facial thirds: 1/3 of face length
the upper third (height between the hairline to the middle part of the eyebrows), middle third (height between the middle part of the eyebrows to the bottom of the nose) and lower third (height between the bottom of the nose to bottom of the chin) of the face should be approximately 1/3rd of your entire face length (height between the hairline to bottom of the chin). these facial thirds should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 3 parts as you transition down the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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facial fifths: 1/5 of ear to ear width
the nose width, palpebral fissure length and length between the lateral canthus to the ear should be approximately 1/5th of the width between your ears. these facial fifths should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 5 parts as you transition from left to right of the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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Outdated piece of slop, why is this shit even in botb, might as well post ca's formula atp

 

[VampyrMaxx]

@clearness. This is the thread that convinced people compact midface is ideal, because on what planet is 1.1 mfr attractive.

For example JB has 1.07 mfr, he is attractive despite it, not because of it

 

[clearness.]

@clearness. This is the thread that convinced people compact midface is ideal, because on what planet is 1.1 mfr attractive.

For example JB has 1.07 mfr, he is attractive despite it, not because of it

They don't know shit their argument fall apart when you analysis the best looking faces, this Example is more than enough both have good bones, coloring, features, but surprise surprise one looks like a Chad and the other looks like a twink duo to two things lol.

@thecel played huge role as well advocating for this nonsense he let his personal experience affects his research, we don't say comically long midface with narrow ipd ( like his face) but a masculine longish ( in the ideal range) with a masculine nose length is what makes a man attractive.

 

[try2beme]

Nice, is good to know that i am dephormed in all these things.

Real

 

[try2beme]

They don't know shit their argument fall apart when you analysis the best looking faces, this Example is more than enough both have good bones, coloring, features, but surprise surprise one looks like a Chad and the other looks like a twink duo to two things lol.

@thecel played huge role as well advocating for this nonsense he let his personal experience affects his research, we don't say comically long midface with narrow ipd ( like his face) but a masculine longish ( in the ideal range) with a masculine nose length is what makes a man attractive.

Clav looks Mtn next to that snowbunny dude

 

[Sub5mmafighter]

this is an updated version of my previous ideal facial ratios & proportions thread which can be found here

facial width to height ratio (FWHR): 1.8+
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the height of the middle part of the eyebrow to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower/full face ratio: 0.62+
measured by dividing the height between the nasion to the bottom of the chin by the face height (distance from hairline to bottom of the chin)

Spoiler: measurement examples

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midface ratio: 1.0-1.1
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the height of the nasion to the upper lip. the closer to 1:1 this is, the better.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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mouth to nose ratio: 1.5-1.62
measured by dividing the width of the mouth by the width of the nose.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower to upper lip ratio: 1.62
measured by dividing the height of the lower lip to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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chin to philtrum ratio: 2.0-2.25
measured by dividing the height of the middle part of the lips to the bottom of the chin by the height of the bottom of the nose to the middle part of the lips.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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bizygomatic to bigonial width: 1.35
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the bigonial width (distance from gonion to gonion).

Spoiler: measurement examples

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ESR (eye separation ratio): 0.45-0.47
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone). the "third eyeball method" - a theory in which the distance between your eyes should be another eye apart - is widely accepted in determining whether or not your eyes are an appropriate distance away from eachother, however this is flawed and incorrect. here is a thread explaining why, along with some more useful information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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EME (eye mouth eye) angle: 47°-50°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the center of the lips with the arms crossing the eye pupils. the EME angle is a good indicator of masculinity and symmetry. here is a thread with more information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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cervicomental angle: 105°-120°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the hyoid with the arms set along the bottom of the chin and the neck. anything above 120° is said to give the impression of a double chin.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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gonial angle: 115°-130°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the gonion with the arms set along the mandible and the ramus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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canthal tilt: 4°-6°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the medial canthus with the arms set parallel to the floor and the lateral canthus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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palpebral fissure length to height ratio: 3.0-3.5
measured by dividing the palpebral fissure length (distance between the medial to the lateral canthus) by the height of the upper and lower eyelid.

forehead height: 3 fingers
measured by clenching your fingers together and seeing how many you can fit on your forehead horizontally before reaching your hairline.

facial thirds: 1/3 of face length
the upper third (height between the hairline to the middle part of the eyebrows), middle third (height between the middle part of the eyebrows to the bottom of the nose) and lower third (height between the bottom of the nose to bottom of the chin) of the face should be approximately 1/3rd of your entire face length (height between the hairline to bottom of the chin). these facial thirds should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 3 parts as you transition down the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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facial fifths: 1/5 of ear to ear width
the nose width, palpebral fissure length and length between the lateral canthus to the ear should be approximately 1/5th of the width between your ears. these facial fifths should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 5 parts as you transition from left to right of the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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good to know i dont have any ideal ratios

 

[Deleted member 306200]

this is an updated version of my previous ideal facial ratios & proportions thread which can be found here

facial width to height ratio (FWHR): 1.8+
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the height of the middle part of the eyebrow to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower/full face ratio: 0.62+
measured by dividing the height between the nasion to the bottom of the chin by the face height (distance from hairline to bottom of the chin)

Spoiler: measurement examples

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midface ratio: 1.0-1.1
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the height of the nasion to the upper lip. the closer to 1:1 this is, the better.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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mouth to nose ratio: 1.5-1.62
measured by dividing the width of the mouth by the width of the nose.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower to upper lip ratio: 1.62
measured by dividing the height of the lower lip to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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chin to philtrum ratio: 2.0-2.25
measured by dividing the height of the middle part of the lips to the bottom of the chin by the height of the bottom of the nose to the middle part of the lips.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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bizygomatic to bigonial width: 1.35
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the bigonial width (distance from gonion to gonion).

Spoiler: measurement examples

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ESR (eye separation ratio): 0.45-0.47
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone). the "third eyeball method" - a theory in which the distance between your eyes should be another eye apart - is widely accepted in determining whether or not your eyes are an appropriate distance away from eachother, however this is flawed and incorrect. here is a thread explaining why, along with some more useful information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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EME (eye mouth eye) angle: 47°-50°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the center of the lips with the arms crossing the eye pupils. the EME angle is a good indicator of masculinity and symmetry. here is a thread with more information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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cervicomental angle: 105°-120°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the hyoid with the arms set along the bottom of the chin and the neck. anything above 120° is said to give the impression of a double chin.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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gonial angle: 115°-130°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the gonion with the arms set along the mandible and the ramus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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canthal tilt: 4°-6°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the medial canthus with the arms set parallel to the floor and the lateral canthus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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palpebral fissure length to height ratio: 3.0-3.5
measured by dividing the palpebral fissure length (distance between the medial to the lateral canthus) by the height of the upper and lower eyelid.

forehead height: 3 fingers
measured by clenching your fingers together and seeing how many you can fit on your forehead horizontally before reaching your hairline.

facial thirds: 1/3 of face length
the upper third (height between the hairline to the middle part of the eyebrows), middle third (height between the middle part of the eyebrows to the bottom of the nose) and lower third (height between the bottom of the nose to bottom of the chin) of the face should be approximately 1/3rd of your entire face length (height between the hairline to bottom of the chin). these facial thirds should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 3 parts as you transition down the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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facial fifths: 1/5 of ear to ear width
the nose width, palpebral fissure length and length between the lateral canthus to the ear should be approximately 1/5th of the width between your ears. these facial fifths should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 5 parts as you transition from left to right of the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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Add ear potrusion

 

[thecel]

@clearness. This is the thread that convinced people compact midface is ideal, because on what planet is 1.1 mfr attractive.

For example JB has 1.07 mfr, he is attractive despite it, not because of it

men and women I saw in real life convinced me compact midface is ideal

 

[clearness.]

men and women I saw in real life convinced me compact midface is ideal

Ocd duo to personal trauma is truly a bitch

 

[pfl]

@clearness. This is the thread that convinced people compact midface is ideal, because on what planet is 1.1 mfr attractive.

For example JB has 1.07 mfr, he is attractive despite it, not because of it

Barrett is mtn

 

[clearness.]

Barrett is mtn

Look at this low IQ useless retard we are here having a fruitful discussion and he's thinking about ogga bogga mtn ogga , Joined Dec 17, 2023 btw @AscendingHero

 

[pfl]

Look at this low IQ useless retard we are here having a fruitful discussion and he's thinking about ogga bogga mtn ogga , Joined Dec 17, 2023 btw @AscendingHero

JoinedJul 12, 2025Posts281Reputation222

 

[clearness.]

JoinedJul 12, 2025Posts281Reputation222

Go bait elsewhere retard piss, zero value

 

[pfl]

Go bait elsewhere retard piss, zero value

Ur ethnic btw

 

[VampyrMaxx]

men and women I saw in real life convinced me compact midface is ideal

Can you give an example?

Omniman looks better without short midface assuming we keep alveolar process conpact and mpa at 12.5 degrees.

 

[VampyrMaxx]

men and women I saw in real life convinced me compact midface is ideal

My brother also has compact midface i notice it everytime i talk to him. Its more of a striking feature, and striking features are not koiniphilic, therefore they are unideal.

Also this morph has a compact midface, it would be

 

[VampyrMaxx]

men and women I saw in real life convinced me compact midface is ideal

My brother also has compact midface i notice it everytime i talk to him. Its more of a striking feature, and striking features are not koiniphilic, therefore they are unideal.

Also this morph has a compact midface, it would be much better if it was slightly elongated. Its noticably short.

The short midface height could be due to ramus length or perhaps low set orbitals+ radix, because the alveolar process and MPA are already compact.

Orbital set height is never talked about on this forum, even though its one of the most crucial measurements.

This could make a very important distinction in your short midface theory, because orbital and radix set height will play the most important role considering we keep the ramus length, mpa, and aveolar process all compact and ideal.

I think this is why Cameron Alborzian has a "horse" midface. We can see that his ramus, mpa, forward growth, and alveolar process/philtrum are well developed so it might be a problem of his orbitals and radix being too high set.

I really disagree with you on short midface. I think this might be clear cut case of BDD because everyone with a short midface and nasal height looks kind of piggish imo.

(Wrote 2 times; bad internet)

 

[thugmaxx]

thank god u didn’t say ideal ESR is up to 0.51 like these other retards

 

[VampyrMaxx]

Thoughts on Stephen Amell nasal height? @thecel @clearness.

If you watch Arrow, I think his midface makes him look more masculine than Roy Harper (dont know actors name), despite Roy having better bigonial width than Oliver Queen. Just figured it out, his name is Colton Haynes.

Other than his alar base, I like his nose a lot, reminds me of Omni Man midface.

 

[VampyrMaxx]

@clearness. Very nice nose and nasal height

 

[Sabork]

this is an updated version of my previous ideal facial ratios & proportions thread which can be found here

facial width to height ratio (FWHR): 1.8+
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the height of the middle part of the eyebrow to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower/full face ratio: 0.62+
measured by dividing the height between the nasion to the bottom of the chin by the face height (distance from hairline to bottom of the chin)

Spoiler: measurement examples

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midface ratio: 1.0-1.1
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the height of the nasion to the upper lip. the closer to 1:1 this is, the better.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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mouth to nose ratio: 1.5-1.62
measured by dividing the width of the mouth by the width of the nose.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower to upper lip ratio: 1.62
measured by dividing the height of the lower lip to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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chin to philtrum ratio: 2.0-2.25
measured by dividing the height of the middle part of the lips to the bottom of the chin by the height of the bottom of the nose to the middle part of the lips.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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bizygomatic to bigonial width: 1.35
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the bigonial width (distance from gonion to gonion).

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148904

ESR (eye separation ratio): 0.45-0.47
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone). the "third eyeball method" - a theory in which the distance between your eyes should be another eye apart - is widely accepted in determining whether or not your eyes are an appropriate distance away from eachother, however this is flawed and incorrect. here is a thread explaining why, along with some more useful information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148857

EME (eye mouth eye) angle: 47°-50°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the center of the lips with the arms crossing the eye pupils. the EME angle is a good indicator of masculinity and symmetry. here is a thread with more information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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cervicomental angle: 105°-120°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the hyoid with the arms set along the bottom of the chin and the neck. anything above 120° is said to give the impression of a double chin.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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gonial angle: 115°-130°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the gonion with the arms set along the mandible and the ramus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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canthal tilt: 4°-6°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the medial canthus with the arms set parallel to the floor and the lateral canthus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148907

palpebral fissure length to height ratio: 3.0-3.5
measured by dividing the palpebral fissure length (distance between the medial to the lateral canthus) by the height of the upper and lower eyelid.

forehead height: 3 fingers
measured by clenching your fingers together and seeing how many you can fit on your forehead horizontally before reaching your hairline.

facial thirds: 1/3 of face length
the upper third (height between the hairline to the middle part of the eyebrows), middle third (height between the middle part of the eyebrows to the bottom of the nose) and lower third (height between the bottom of the nose to bottom of the chin) of the face should be approximately 1/3rd of your entire face length (height between the hairline to bottom of the chin). these facial thirds should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 3 parts as you transition down the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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facial fifths: 1/5 of ear to ear width
the nose width, palpebral fissure length and length between the lateral canthus to the ear should be approximately 1/5th of the width between your ears. these facial fifths should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 5 parts as you transition from left to right of the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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im cooked

 

[VampyrMaxx]

Similar midface.

 

[clearness.]

Thoughts on Stephen Amell nasal height? @thecel @clearness.

If you watch Arrow, I think his midface makes him look more masculine than Roy Harper (dont know actors name), despite Roy having better bigonial width than Oliver Queen. Just figured it out, his name is Colton Haynes.

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Other than his alar base, I like his nose a lot, reminds me of Omni Man midface.

I wouldn't say he looks more masculine duo to that he just has a very masculine features all together, Colton skull and midface, nasal height are more dimorphic though, makes him more attractive.


Mogs both:

 

[clearness.]

@clearness. Very nice nose and nasal height

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[clearness.]

@clearness. Very nice nose and nasal height

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[VampyrMaxx]

I wouldn't say he looks more masculine duo to that he just has a very masculine features all together, Colton skull and midface, nasal height are more dimorphic though, makes him more attractive.


Mogs both:

What stephen amell is very masculine and David Gandy midface is more compact

 

[mrmrknowitall@gmail]

this is an updated version of my previous ideal facial ratios & proportions thread which can be found here

facial width to height ratio (FWHR): 1.8+
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the height of the middle part of the eyebrow to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower/full face ratio: 0.62+
measured by dividing the height between the nasion to the bottom of the chin by the face height (distance from hairline to bottom of the chin)

Spoiler: measurement examples

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midface ratio: 1.0-1.1
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the height of the nasion to the upper lip. the closer to 1:1 this is, the better.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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mouth to nose ratio: 1.5-1.62
measured by dividing the width of the mouth by the width of the nose.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower to upper lip ratio: 1.62
measured by dividing the height of the lower lip to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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chin to philtrum ratio: 2.0-2.25
measured by dividing the height of the middle part of the lips to the bottom of the chin by the height of the bottom of the nose to the middle part of the lips.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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bizygomatic to bigonial width: 1.35
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the bigonial width (distance from gonion to gonion).

Spoiler: measurement examples

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ESR (eye separation ratio): 0.45-0.47
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone). the "third eyeball method" - a theory in which the distance between your eyes should be another eye apart - is widely accepted in determining whether or not your eyes are an appropriate distance away from eachother, however this is flawed and incorrect. here is a thread explaining why, along with some more useful information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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EME (eye mouth eye) angle: 47°-50°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the center of the lips with the arms crossing the eye pupils. the EME angle is a good indicator of masculinity and symmetry. here is a thread with more information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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cervicomental angle: 105°-120°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the hyoid with the arms set along the bottom of the chin and the neck. anything above 120° is said to give the impression of a double chin.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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gonial angle: 115°-130°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the gonion with the arms set along the mandible and the ramus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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canthal tilt: 4°-6°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the medial canthus with the arms set parallel to the floor and the lateral canthus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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palpebral fissure length to height ratio: 3.0-3.5
measured by dividing the palpebral fissure length (distance between the medial to the lateral canthus) by the height of the upper and lower eyelid.

forehead height: 3 fingers
measured by clenching your fingers together and seeing how many you can fit on your forehead horizontally before reaching your hairline.

facial thirds: 1/3 of face length
the upper third (height between the hairline to the middle part of the eyebrows), middle third (height between the middle part of the eyebrows to the bottom of the nose) and lower third (height between the bottom of the nose to bottom of the chin) of the face should be approximately 1/3rd of your entire face length (height between the hairline to bottom of the chin). these facial thirds should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 3 parts as you transition down the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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facial fifths: 1/5 of ear to ear width
the nose width, palpebral fissure length and length between the lateral canthus to the ear should be approximately 1/5th of the width between your ears. these facial fifths should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 5 parts as you transition from left to right of the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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Bump ,high iq

 

[yussimania]

Bump ,high iq

ur bumping a botb lol

 

[mrmrknowitall@gmail]

ur bumping a botb lol

Mb

 

[Deleted member 322694]

i won't even measure my ratios, it would be pure suifuel

what's the point then

 

[Deleted member 322694]

How do i measeure these? Pixels??

gimp

 

[ItsOver213]

i won't even measure my ratios, it would be pure suifuel

Reading this 7 years later however I agree

 

[CjsJourney2Chad]

this is an updated version of my previous ideal facial ratios & proportions thread which can be found here

facial width to height ratio (FWHR): 1.8+
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the height of the middle part of the eyebrow to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower/full face ratio: 0.62+
measured by dividing the height between the nasion to the bottom of the chin by the face height (distance from hairline to bottom of the chin)

Spoiler: measurement examples

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midface ratio: 1.0-1.1
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the height of the nasion to the upper lip. the closer to 1:1 this is, the better.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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mouth to nose ratio: 1.5-1.62
measured by dividing the width of the mouth by the width of the nose.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower to upper lip ratio: 1.62
measured by dividing the height of the lower lip to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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chin to philtrum ratio: 2.0-2.25
measured by dividing the height of the middle part of the lips to the bottom of the chin by the height of the bottom of the nose to the middle part of the lips.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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bizygomatic to bigonial width: 1.35
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the bigonial width (distance from gonion to gonion).

Spoiler: measurement examples

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ESR (eye separation ratio): 0.45-0.47
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone). the "third eyeball method" - a theory in which the distance between your eyes should be another eye apart - is widely accepted in determining whether or not your eyes are an appropriate distance away from eachother, however this is flawed and incorrect. here is a thread explaining why, along with some more useful information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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EME (eye mouth eye) angle: 47°-50°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the center of the lips with the arms crossing the eye pupils. the EME angle is a good indicator of masculinity and symmetry. here is a thread with more information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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cervicomental angle: 105°-120°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the hyoid with the arms set along the bottom of the chin and the neck. anything above 120° is said to give the impression of a double chin.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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gonial angle: 115°-130°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the gonion with the arms set along the mandible and the ramus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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canthal tilt: 4°-6°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the medial canthus with the arms set parallel to the floor and the lateral canthus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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palpebral fissure length to height ratio: 3.0-3.5
measured by dividing the palpebral fissure length (distance between the medial to the lateral canthus) by the height of the upper and lower eyelid.

forehead height: 3 fingers
measured by clenching your fingers together and seeing how many you can fit on your forehead horizontally before reaching your hairline.

facial thirds: 1/3 of face length
the upper third (height between the hairline to the middle part of the eyebrows), middle third (height between the middle part of the eyebrows to the bottom of the nose) and lower third (height between the bottom of the nose to bottom of the chin) of the face should be approximately 1/3rd of your entire face length (height between the hairline to bottom of the chin). these facial thirds should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 3 parts as you transition down the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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facial fifths: 1/5 of ear to ear width
the nose width, palpebral fissure length and length between the lateral canthus to the ear should be approximately 1/5th of the width between your ears. these facial fifths should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 5 parts as you transition from left to right of the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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good to know i’m not fried out the ahh

 

[888888jaq]

w

this is an updated version of my previous ideal facial ratios & proportions thread which can be found here

facial width to height ratio (FWHR): 1.8+
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the height of the middle part of the eyebrow to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower/full face ratio: 0.62+
measured by dividing the height between the nasion to the bottom of the chin by the face height (distance from hairline to bottom of the chin)

Spoiler: measurement examples

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midface ratio: 1.0-1.1
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the height of the nasion to the upper lip. the closer to 1:1 this is, the better.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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mouth to nose ratio: 1.5-1.62
measured by dividing the width of the mouth by the width of the nose.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower to upper lip ratio: 1.62
measured by dividing the height of the lower lip to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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chin to philtrum ratio: 2.0-2.25
measured by dividing the height of the middle part of the lips to the bottom of the chin by the height of the bottom of the nose to the middle part of the lips.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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bizygomatic to bigonial width: 1.35
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the bigonial width (distance from gonion to gonion).

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148904

ESR (eye separation ratio): 0.45-0.47
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone). the "third eyeball method" - a theory in which the distance between your eyes should be another eye apart - is widely accepted in determining whether or not your eyes are an appropriate distance away from eachother, however this is flawed and incorrect. here is a thread explaining why, along with some more useful information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148857

EME (eye mouth eye) angle: 47°-50°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the center of the lips with the arms crossing the eye pupils. the EME angle is a good indicator of masculinity and symmetry. here is a thread with more information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148917

cervicomental angle: 105°-120°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the hyoid with the arms set along the bottom of the chin and the neck. anything above 120° is said to give the impression of a double chin.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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gonial angle: 115°-130°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the gonion with the arms set along the mandible and the ramus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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canthal tilt: 4°-6°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the medial canthus with the arms set parallel to the floor and the lateral canthus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148907

palpebral fissure length to height ratio: 3.0-3.5
measured by dividing the palpebral fissure length (distance between the medial to the lateral canthus) by the height of the upper and lower eyelid.

forehead height: 3 fingers
measured by clenching your fingers together and seeing how many you can fit on your forehead horizontally before reaching your hairline.

facial thirds: 1/3 of face length
the upper third (height between the hairline to the middle part of the eyebrows), middle third (height between the middle part of the eyebrows to the bottom of the nose) and lower third (height between the bottom of the nose to bottom of the chin) of the face should be approximately 1/3rd of your entire face length (height between the hairline to bottom of the chin). these facial thirds should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 3 parts as you transition down the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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facial fifths: 1/5 of ear to ear width
the nose width, palpebral fissure length and length between the lateral canthus to the ear should be approximately 1/5th of the width between your ears. these facial fifths should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 5 parts as you transition from left to right of the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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what do u use to mesure this?

 

[888888jaq]

How do i measeure these? Pixels??

got any answers?

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

w

what do u use to mesure this?

Imagemeter on phone

 

[paradoxx.]

What app or software to use to calculate, measure distances on face and angles?

imagemeter and a calculator

 

[888888jaq]

imagemeter and a calculator

do u have a picture of the app? in on IOS and it doesn’t appear me?

 

[greatgoose961]

this is an updated version of my previous ideal facial ratios & proportions thread which can be found here

facial width to height ratio (FWHR): 1.8+
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the height of the middle part of the eyebrow to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower/full face ratio: 0.62+
measured by dividing the height between the nasion to the bottom of the chin by the face height (distance from hairline to bottom of the chin)

Spoiler: measurement examples

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midface ratio: 1.0-1.1
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the height of the nasion to the upper lip. the closer to 1:1 this is, the better.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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mouth to nose ratio: 1.5-1.62
measured by dividing the width of the mouth by the width of the nose.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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lower to upper lip ratio: 1.62
measured by dividing the height of the lower lip to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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chin to philtrum ratio: 2.0-2.25
measured by dividing the height of the middle part of the lips to the bottom of the chin by the height of the bottom of the nose to the middle part of the lips.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148849

bizygomatic to bigonial width: 1.35
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the bigonial width (distance from gonion to gonion).

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148904

ESR (eye separation ratio): 0.45-0.47
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone). the "third eyeball method" - a theory in which the distance between your eyes should be another eye apart - is widely accepted in determining whether or not your eyes are an appropriate distance away from eachother, however this is flawed and incorrect. here is a thread explaining why, along with some more useful information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148857

EME (eye mouth eye) angle: 47°-50°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the center of the lips with the arms crossing the eye pupils. the EME angle is a good indicator of masculinity and symmetry. here is a thread with more information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148917

cervicomental angle: 105°-120°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the hyoid with the arms set along the bottom of the chin and the neck. anything above 120° is said to give the impression of a double chin.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148876

gonial angle: 115°-130°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the gonion with the arms set along the mandible and the ramus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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View attachment 148880

canthal tilt: 4°-6°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the medial canthus with the arms set parallel to the floor and the lateral canthus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148907

palpebral fissure length to height ratio: 3.0-3.5
measured by dividing the palpebral fissure length (distance between the medial to the lateral canthus) by the height of the upper and lower eyelid.

forehead height: 3 fingers
measured by clenching your fingers together and seeing how many you can fit on your forehead horizontally before reaching your hairline.

facial thirds: 1/3 of face length
the upper third (height between the hairline to the middle part of the eyebrows), middle third (height between the middle part of the eyebrows to the bottom of the nose) and lower third (height between the bottom of the nose to bottom of the chin) of the face should be approximately 1/3rd of your entire face length (height between the hairline to bottom of the chin). these facial thirds should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 3 parts as you transition down the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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facial fifths: 1/5 of ear to ear width
the nose width, palpebral fissure length and length between the lateral canthus to the ear should be approximately 1/5th of the width between your ears. these facial fifths should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 5 parts as you transition from left to right of the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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Seems my only major flaw is my wide ass fucking nose. Would hydrocortisone fix this? Or am I gonna need a rhinoplasty? (pic is taken several meters away)

 

[imissblurryface]

I’m trying to take a measurement from the lips to the chin, but my chin is recessed.

Should the measurement be taken straight down from the lips (vertical drop) until it reaches the same horizontal level as the chin or should the measuring tool be angled backward so it directly touches the most forward point of the chin?

 

[spermiel]

theres a free website called faceratios.com that lets you upload a picture and then it tells you youre ratios its pretty good u guys should try it if you dont want to spend a lot of time on photoshop

 

[tension]

this is an updated version of my previous ideal facial ratios & proportions thread which can be found here

facial width to height ratio (FWHR): 1.8+
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the height of the middle part of the eyebrow to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148798
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View attachment 148805

lower/full face ratio: 0.62+
measured by dividing the height between the nasion to the bottom of the chin by the face height (distance from hairline to bottom of the chin)

Spoiler: measurement examples

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midface ratio: 1.0-1.1
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the height of the nasion to the upper lip. the closer to 1:1 this is, the better.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148822

mouth to nose ratio: 1.5-1.62
measured by dividing the width of the mouth by the width of the nose.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148825

lower to upper lip ratio: 1.62
measured by dividing the height of the lower lip to the upper lip.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148829

chin to philtrum ratio: 2.0-2.25
measured by dividing the height of the middle part of the lips to the bottom of the chin by the height of the bottom of the nose to the middle part of the lips.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148849

bizygomatic to bigonial width: 1.35
measured by dividing the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone) by the bigonial width (distance from gonion to gonion).

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148904

ESR (eye separation ratio): 0.45-0.47
measured by dividing the interpupillary distance (distance between the centers of the pupils) by the the bizygomatic width (distance from cheekbone to cheekbone). the "third eyeball method" - a theory in which the distance between your eyes should be another eye apart - is widely accepted in determining whether or not your eyes are an appropriate distance away from eachother, however this is flawed and incorrect. here is a thread explaining why, along with some more useful information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148857

EME (eye mouth eye) angle: 47°-50°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the center of the lips with the arms crossing the eye pupils. the EME angle is a good indicator of masculinity and symmetry. here is a thread with more information about this measurement.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148917

cervicomental angle: 105°-120°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the hyoid with the arms set along the bottom of the chin and the neck. anything above 120° is said to give the impression of a double chin.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148876

gonial angle: 115°-130°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the gonion with the arms set along the mandible and the ramus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148878
View attachment 148880

canthal tilt: 4°-6°
measured by calculating the angle formed upon setting the vertex at the medial canthus with the arms set parallel to the floor and the lateral canthus.

Spoiler: measurement examples

View attachment 148907

palpebral fissure length to height ratio: 3.0-3.5
measured by dividing the palpebral fissure length (distance between the medial to the lateral canthus) by the height of the upper and lower eyelid.

forehead height: 3 fingers
measured by clenching your fingers together and seeing how many you can fit on your forehead horizontally before reaching your hairline.

facial thirds: 1/3 of face length
the upper third (height between the hairline to the middle part of the eyebrows), middle third (height between the middle part of the eyebrows to the bottom of the nose) and lower third (height between the bottom of the nose to bottom of the chin) of the face should be approximately 1/3rd of your entire face length (height between the hairline to bottom of the chin). these facial thirds should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 3 parts as you transition down the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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facial fifths: 1/5 of ear to ear width
the nose width, palpebral fissure length and length between the lateral canthus to the ear should be approximately 1/5th of the width between your ears. these facial fifths should all be approximately equal to eachother and dividable smoothly into 5 parts as you transition from left to right of the face.

Spoiler: measurement examples

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how is this gonna help me

 

[whiteTeeth]

What about for other racial groups such as Indians

 

[handelsman]

bookmarked

 

[supersaiyancarp27]

What app or software to use to calculate, measure distances on face and angles?

what device do u use

 

[supersaiyancarp27]

My brother also has compact midface i notice it everytime i talk to him. Its more of a striking feature, and striking features are not koiniphilic, therefore they are unideal.

Also this morph has a compact midface, it would be

so blue eyes are unideal?

 

[iblamexyz]

so blue eyes are unideal?

where have you gotten this from?

 

[adderallx]

so blue eyes are unideal?