Idk if testosteronemaxxing is worth it for me, as my current sups are already raping me

[Bitchwhipper2]

Ever since i started taking ashwaghanda, creatine, l carnitine, Vit D, and some other stuff ive been super susceptible to erections.

I got hard all the time over nothing. I can get an erection just thinking about getting an erection.

My hairline also looks to have receded a little bit since ive started, and im only 17.

Thing is that Im currently ordering aromasin, boron, tongkat ali, and shilajit. If my hairline is receding from what im currently taking, all of this new stuff will fuck me up beyond belief.

Im also gonna have a constant erection which will never go away. So as a result it will entirely lose circulation, rot and fall off making me a true truecel. As i wont even be able to escortmaxx


Is it worth the T boyos?

 

[RoundHouse]

Dn read, inject t asap faggot​

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Dn read, inject t asap faggot​

Injecting t is retarded especially if youre not fully developed

 

[RoundHouse]

Injecting t is retarded especially if youre not fully developed

You're 17 nigga, youre almost fully fucking developed, prime age to start injecting since your body can handle more shit than if you were a geezer​

 

[Deleted member 13476]

Injecting t is retarded especially if youre not fully developed

Bro you’re taking an AI at 17 and shitting on test injections, you have no idea what you’re talking about

If you’re actually low t those shitty supplements will do fuck all.

do some actual research and you’ll realise test is literal god serum

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

You're 17 nigga, youre almost fully fucking developed, prime age to start injecting since your body can handle more shit than if you were a geezer​

Dont wanna fuck up my balls and go infertile for life.

My hairline is also gonna retreat like the soviet union.

Would much rather spam gh and get bonegrowth than inject T for only muscle growth

 

[Deleted member 14203]

Injecting t is retarded especially if youre not fully developed

Evidence that injecting T at 17 is retarded? This is basically mom science at this point.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Bro you’re taking an AI at 17 and shitting on test injections, you have no idea what you’re talking about

If you’re actually low t those shitty supplements will do fuck all.

do some actual research and you’ll realise test is literal god serum

AI isnt gonna rape my natural T production unlike injecting T

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Evidence that injecting T at 17 is retarded? This is basically mom science at this point.

Dont wanna fuck up my endocrine system

 

[BearBoy]

You're 17 nigga, youre almost fully fucking developed, prime age to start injecting since your body can handle more shit than if you were a geezer​

Age 21 - 23 is when you are done fully growing, even if growth plates close at age 18 your bones increase in size and you reach peak hormones at age 21

So you are fully manly at age 21

 

[BearBoy]

Dont wanna fuck up my endocrine system

Dont listen to the retard telling you to inject, there was some guy who went from 600 to 1400 T, with natural supplements

just take natty shit

 

[Deleted member 14693]

As i wont even be able to escortmaxx

Why not?

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Dont listen to the retard telling you to inject, there was some guy who went from 600 to 1400 T, with natural supplements

just take natty shit

Yeah, exactly. I dont really think my T levels are giga low

 

[BearBoy]

Yeah, exactly. I dont really think my T levels are giga low

Yeah keep taking the shit till you reach 21 after that all doesnt matter

 

[Deleted member 13476]

Dont wanna fuck up my balls and go infertile for life.

My hairline is also gonna retreat like the soviet union.

Would much rather spam gh and get bonegrowth than inject T for only muscle growth

Holy shit the levels of retardation.

It doesn’t make you infertile you negative IQ fuckhead, that’s literally the most common retard normie cope

GH spamming will do fuck you up way more than test by making you acromegalous and growing your organs

don’t act like you actually care about the literal size of your balls, more cope. they change 24/7 anyway.

Dont wanna fuck up my endocrine system

but you’re crashing your estrogen with an AI for no reason, that’ll “fuck up your endocrine system” way way more than test

Dont listen to the retard telling you to inject, there was some guy who went from 600 to 1400 T, with natural supplements

just take natty shit

1400 is really high, I doubt he took muh natural supplements. natural T varies an absolute shit ton, could be 700 one day and 400 the next, precisely why it’s trash.

trt releases it slowly and at the same level, so you’re high T 24/7 and can retain muscle way easier etc etc.

 

[BearBoy]

Holy shit the levels of retardation.

It doesn’t make you infertile you negative IQ fuckhead, that’s literally the most common retard normie cope

GH spamming will do fuck you up way more than test by making you acromegalous and growing your organs

don’t act like you actually care about the literal size of your balls, more cope. they change 24/7 anyway.

but you’re crashing your estrogen with an AI for no reason, that’ll “fuck up your endocrine system” way way more than test



1400 is really high, I doubt he took muh natural supplements. natural T varies an absolute shit ton, could be 700 one day and 400 the next, precisely why it’s trash.

trt releases it slowly and at the same level, so you’re high T 24/7 and can retain muscle way easier etc etc.

You must be a subhuman low T if you actually think 1400 is alot naturally

I guess the reaction he had was genetic aswell probably but who knows? not everyone takes tests when taking natty products they just give up and want to take the easy rout "injecting T"

https://looksmax.org/threads/stack-i-used-to-increase-my-t-levels.275258/ Here

"
First test: 22.4 nmol/L = 646 ng/dL
second test (when on supplements): 46.9 nmol/L= 1352 ng/dL
Third test (when stopped for 2 months with supplements) 21.2 nmol/L=611 ng/dL"

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

GH spamming will do fuck you up way more than test by making you acromegalous and growing your organs

don’t act like you actually care about the literal size of your balls, more cope. they change 24/7 anyway.

but you’re crashing your estrogen with an AI for no reason, that’ll “fuck up your endocrine system” way way more than test

Going on aromasin wont lower my natural T production tho

 

[Deleted member 13476]

You must be a subhuman low T if you actually think 1400 is alot naturally

I guess the reaction he had was genetic aswell probably but who knows? not everyone takes tests when taking natty products they just give up and want to take the easy rout "injecting T"

https://looksmax.org/threads/stack-i-used-to-increase-my-t-levels.275258/ Here

"
First test: 22.4 nmol/L = 646 ng/dL
second test (when on supplements): 46.9 nmol/L= 1352 ng/dL
Third test (when stopped for 2 months with supplements) 21.2 nmol/L=611 ng/dL"

1400 is high above the reference range, you’re literally clueless. That’s higher than what most really jacked dudes need to maintain their physiques on TRT. You clearly get all your information on hormones from this website.

I don’t think the results are legit if I’m honest, and if they are, it doesn’t matter. I explained why TRT production is superior. By the end of the day, his 1400 would go down to 800ish because of fluctuation etc. If he drinks or has bad sleep, that’ll go down even more. That’s how natural test production is. You don’t have to worry about that when injecting.

Not to mention test is infinitely cheaper than all those shitty supplements.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

1400 is high above the reference range, you’re literally clueless. That’s higher than what most really jacked dudes need to maintain their physiques on TRT. You clearly get all your information on hormones from this website.

I don’t think the results are legit if I’m honest, and if they are, it doesn’t matter. I explained why TRT production is superior. By the end of the day, his 1400 would go down to 800ish because of fluctuation etc. If he drinks or has bad sleep, that’ll go down even more. That’s how natural test production is. You don’t have to worry about that when injecting.

Not to mention test is infinitely cheaper than all those shitty supplements.

Nah tbh. You can get a months worth of those supps for like $80 .

Whats really costing me is mk 677 and aromasin

 

[Deleted member 13476]

Going on aromasin wont lower my natural T production tho

Why do you care so much about your natural test production?

It will crash your estrogen which you need for basic brain and bodily function.

Contrary to what the retards here tell you, estrogen is just as important as test. Please do some actual research that isn’t on this site so you actually understand hormones and what you’re doing to yourself.

 

[Deleted member 13476]

Nah tbh. You can get a months worth of those supps for like $80 .

Whats really costing me is mk 677 and aromasin

A months worth of Test is like £10 in the UK…

mk677 is probably spiking your prolactin if you haven’t gotten it checked, good luck with that

take aromasin, go ahead and fuck yourself up if you’re that determined to

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

A months worth of Test is like £10 in the UK…

mk677 is probably spiking your prolactin if you haven’t gotten it checked, good luck with that

take aromasin, go ahead and fuck yourself up if you’re that determined to

Ill just get a prolactin inhib or something. I havent actually recieved my mk 677 yet tbh


But 10 for a months supply is pretty cheap tbh.

 

[BearBoy]

1400 is high above the reference range, you’re literally clueless. That’s higher than what most really jacked dudes need to maintain their physiques on TRT. You clearly get all your information on hormones from this website.

I don’t think the results are legit if I’m honest, and if they are, it doesn’t matter. I explained why TRT production is superior. By the end of the day, his 1400 would go down to 800ish because of fluctuation etc. If he drinks or has bad sleep, that’ll go down even more. That’s how natural test production is. You don’t have to worry about that when injecting.

Not to mention test is infinitely cheaper than all those shitty supplements.

Dont care its not worth shutting my shit off

The reason bodybuilders get on test is because they nuke themselves with other steroids, so i dont see the reason why you want superior T levels, you would need to inject good to even reach 1400 or more.

But anyways after puberty its cope and even in puberty its cope since you are shutting your shit off and without injecting you cant live anymore

 

[BearBoy]

A months worth of Test is like £10 in the UK…

mk677 is probably spiking your prolactin if you haven’t gotten it checked, good luck with that

take aromasin, go ahead and fuck yourself up if you’re that determined to

You are clearly not so informed

If MK-677 raises prolactin to any degree, I would say it has to be at such a small amount that it makes no difference, but even so the spike would be temporary in the beginning.

 

[Deleted member 13476]

Ill just get a prolactin inhib or something. I havent actually recieved my mk 677 yet tbh


But 10 for a months supply is pretty cheap tbh.

price really shouldn't be your concern when it comes to hormones g

you should be sweet but itll bloat you like a mf

Dont care its not worth shutting my shit off

The reason bodybuilders get on test is because they nuke themselves with other steroids, so i dont see the reason why you want superior T levels, you would need to inject good to even reach 1400 or more.

But anyways after puberty its cope and even in puberty its cope since you are shutting your shit off and without injecting you cant live anymore

ok bro you're clearly very very low iq

superior test levels = more muscle growth. you can inject 350mg a week and get fucking huge. you don't need to "inject good" to get 1400 or more jfl you'll get like 3000ng/dl from a low dose cycle.

why the fuck does shutting off your natural test production matter if you have a superior replacement. niggas be emotionally attached to their natural test production cause of the retarded shit they see on here. so what if you need to inject twice a week. if its the injections you're scared of, you're the exact kind of person who needs test.

its not "cope" before or after puberty. unironically using "cope" in a discussion signals pure retardation tbh.

You are clearly not so informed

If MK-677 raises prolactin to any degree, I would say it has to be at such a small amount that it makes no difference, but even so the spike would be temporary in the beginning.

man don't even try say i'm "not informed" after the negative iq bullshit you've just spewed.

idgaf what "you would say", its not a matter of opinion. prolactin spikes in studies and individuals. the longer you're on, the more it will spike. tf are you getting this shit from.
https://academic.oup.com/endo/article/139/8/3590/2987169
P5P (form of vitamin b6) will counter prolactin, it has no side effects and you can get it on like amazon etc
mk is good, but you have to keep your bloods in check, as you should with anything you're taking.

 

[BearBoy]

price really shouldn't be your concern when it comes to hormones g

you should be sweet but itll bloat you like a mf


ok bro you're clearly very very low iq

superior test levels = more muscle growth. you can inject 350mg a week and get fucking huge. you don't need to "inject good" to get 1400 or more jfl you'll get like 3000ng/dl from a low dose cycle.

why the fuck does shutting off your natural test production matter if you have a superior replacement. niggas be emotionally attached to their natural test production cause of the retarded shit they see on here. so what if you need to inject twice a week. if its the injections you're scared of, you're the exact kind of person who needs test.

its not "cope" before or after puberty. unironically using "cope" in a discussion signals pure retardation tbh.

man don't even try say i'm "not informed" after the negative iq bullshit you've just spewed.

idgaf what "you would say", its not a matter of opinion. prolactin spikes in studies and individuals. the longer you're on, the more it will spike. tf are you getting this shit from.
https://academic.oup.com/endo/article/139/8/3590/2987169
P5P (form of vitamin b6) will counter prolactin, it has no side effects and you can get it on like amazon etc
mk is good, but you have to keep your bloods in check, as you should with anything you're taking.

It will probably spike alot if you are on it like fucking 6 months long, this is why you take breaks you retarded dickhole

Who gives a shit a faggot like you doesnt care what might happen in the future so you go and inject, you never know what might happen to you. You can get in jail or some other unlucky shit can happen and you wont have the stuff to inject so you will walk depressed. I dont wanna walk around needing to inject shit everyday

You clearly dont know what you are talking about and seem to be a young retard who might regret it one day.

 

[BearBoy]

@gigabrad Dont even call yourself a man after you touched that unnatural shit and think you are something

I see alot of bodybuilders injecting shit but i have a better body and frame than them, why ? because of genetics. Fuck injecting steroids or some other gay shit its all about genetics

 

[BearBoy]

@Bitchwhipper2 This guy is a complete retard who didnt even read the study he just put down just ignore him and take my advice

Dont inject shit steroids but go for HGH.

 

[Deleted member 13476]

It will probably spike alot if you are on it like fucking 6 months long, this is why you take breaks you retarded dickhole

Who gives a shit a faggot like you doesnt care what might happen in the future so you go and inject, you never know what might happen to you. You can get in jail or some other unlucky shit can happen and you wont have the stuff to inject so you will walk depressed. I dont wanna walk around needing to inject shit everyday so shove a needle up your butthole

You clearly dont know what you are talking about and seem to be a young retard who might regret it one day.

the tears flow and the reasoning collapses. ez low iq tears.

tf would i end up in prison for, i'm not fucking retarded. imagine not being able to get on test cause you're so incompetent you might lose it or not have access to it. if you're not a fucking idiot, you won't end up in these situations.

anyway, you can go for ages without in injection by using a different ester. also, if you get trt prescribed, which isn't difficult, you'll have access to it anyway. on top of the fact with normal enanthate, you only need 3.5 days. you won't be in a jail cell that long in a western country without getting charged. you have 0 idea what the fuck you're talking about.

you probably unironically think the injection goes into your asshole too.

@gigabrad Dont even call yourself a man after you touched that unnatural shit and think you are something

I see alot of bodybuilders injecting shit but i have a better body and frame than them, why ? because of genetics. Fuck injecting steroids or some other gay shit its all about genetics

LOL if that was the case you'd be a fitness model or some shit. you don't have better physiques than bodybuilders. you don't have a clue you deluded retard

it's genetic response to steroids that dictates that level of the sport most of the time. if you are a hyper-responder, you will mutate, doesn't matter what you looked like before, e.g. david laid. most bodybuilders are hyper responsers to gear, your genetics vary, then genetic response to steroids is a further variable. you're way too fucking retarded to understand that so you just simplify it into "its all about genetics"

"dOn'T eVeN cAlL yOuRsElF a mAn" - oh my god the sheer cringe. your definition of being a "man" comes from where you get your hormones. that is so funny, probably the weakest argument ive ever heard. if you want to talk about being a "man" that is entirely different. doesn't have shit to do with your hormones being "natural" tf

36 days online since 30TH OF JULY and you think you're a big "man". jesus christ g

@Bitchwhipper2 This guy is a complete retard who didnt even read the study he just put down just ignore him and take my advice

Dont inject shit steroids but go for HGH.

ah, the low IQ alpha man got his brain fuzzled by the study. the study evaluates the effects of GH secretagogues on prolactin levels. they all increase prolactin. MK-677 is a gh secretagogue.

if that's too confusing, this one is more simple, it evaluates mk specifically. https://asbmr.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1359/jbmr.1999.14.7.1182
"Finally, in the 9-week study, a mean increase from baseline serum prolactin of 27% was observed, but post-treatment values remained within the physiologic range."

"bUt iT OnLy sPiKeS aT 6 mOnThS", have i not made the point that genetic response varies like 12 times in this thread you stupid fuck, just how retarded actually are you?

if you think HGH would benefit you more than steroids you need a brain transplant. hgh is so expensive and the muscle building properties are negligible, bodybuilder's dont even use it until they're already maxxed out on gear.

can't wait for the low iq tears to start spewing again

 

[BearBoy]

the tears flow and the reasoning collapses. ez low iq tears.

tf would i end up in prison for, i'm not fucking retarded. imagine not being able to get on test cause you're so incompetent you might lose it or not have access to it. if you're not a fucking idiot, you won't end up in these situations.

anyway, you can go for ages without in injection by using a different ester. also, if you get trt prescribed, which isn't difficult, you'll have access to it anyway. on top of the fact with normal enanthate, you only need 3.5 days. you won't be in a jail cell that long in a western country without getting charged. you have 0 idea what the fuck you're talking about.

you probably unironically think the injection goes into your asshole too.

LOL if that was the case you'd be a fitness model or some shit. you don't have better physiques than bodybuilders. you don't have a clue you deluded retard

it's genetic response to steroids that dictates that level of the sport most of the time. if you are a hyper-responder, you will mutate, doesn't matter what you looked like before, e.g. david laid. most bodybuilders are hyper responsers to gear, your genetics vary, then genetic response to steroids is a further variable. you're way too fucking retarded to understand that so you just simplify it into "its all about genetics"

"dOn'T eVeN cAlL yOuRsElF a mAn" - oh my god the sheer cringe. your definition of being a "man" comes from where you get your hormones. that is so funny, probably the weakest argument ive ever heard. if you want to talk about being a "man" that is entirely different. doesn't have shit to do with your hormones being "natural" tf

36 days online since 30TH OF JULY and you think you're a big "man". jesus christ g

ah, the low IQ alpha man got his brain fuzzled by the study. the study evaluates the effects of GH secretagogues on prolactin levels. they all increase prolactin. MK-677 is a gh secretagogue.

if that's too confusing, this one is more simple. https://asbmr.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1359/jbmr.1999.14.7.1182
"Finally, in the 9-week study, a mean increase from baseline serum prolactin of 27% was observed, but post-treatment values remained within the physiologic range."

"bUt iT OnLy sPiKeS aT 6 mOnThS", have i not made the point that genetic response varies like 12 times in this thread you stupid fuck, just how retarded actually are you?

if you think HGH would benefit you more than steroids you need a brain transplant. hgh is so expensive and the muscle building properties are negligible, bodybuilder's dont even use it until they're already maxxed out on gear.

can't wait for the low iq tears to start spewing again

pure autism essay you just wrote didnt even read lmao

fuck off with your steroids and testosterone bullshit

HGH is expensive for poor retards like you jfl, there are people with acromegaly who treated it and live completely fine, there was some guy who lived to 90 with acromegaly you just keep bitching all the time

There is a reason why you cycle mk677, 1 week on and 2 - 3 days off to return the prolactin back to normal which is why its called temporary.

Also with a really High testosterone its easier to end up in jail if you get into a fucking fight and start going berzerk mode on the guy and kill him. Again you dont think about your future so do what you want retarded faggot

 

[BearBoy]

"muh bigger organs" "muh prolactin spike"

with good looks acromegaly is a fucking halo you are just coping hard, i bet you probably have small wrists too bitchass faggot

 

[Deleted member 13476]

pure autism essay you just wrote didnt even read lmao

fuck off with your steroids and testosterone bullshit

HGH is expensive for poor retards like you jfl, there are people with acromegaly who treated it and live completely fine, there was some guy who lived to 90 with acromegaly you just keep bitching all the time

There is a reason why you cycle mk677, 1 week on and 2 - 3 days off to return the prolactin back to normal which is why its called temporary.

Also with a really High testosterone its easier to end up in jail if you get into a fucking fight and start going berzerk mode on the guy and kill him. Again you dont think about your future so do what you want retarded faggot

you read every single word and cried because you just got completely and utterly dismantled by someone you call a "kid".

you dont start fucking attacking people and neark killing them on test, it isnt tren you fucking idiot. again, if those are the precautions you have to take then you're a mentally unstable retard. cant believe this retard thinks gh is better than roids. im literally 4500ng/dl. im more confident and extroverted. anger and neuroticism has went down to 0. y

you don't even know what the effects of these compounds are and you're arguing for and against them. like if you're that fucking useless just shut your mouth and let the high IQ people speak.

you're low iq as fuck, cry in your house for the next 3 days that I just made you my abused dog.

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"muh bigger organs" "muh prolactin spike" bitchass faggot

LOL MY MAN IS TRYING TO USE THIS GENETIC SPECIMEN AS A POINT AS TO WHY YOU SHOULD TAKE GH >>> ROIDS HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

is that fucking andre the giant? you aren't growing to 7ft with GH you absolute dumbfuck
fr what kind of example is that, are you shitting me?

please make another post, this is comedy gold.

 

[BearBoy]

you read every single word and cried because you just got completely and utterly dismantled by someone you call a "kid".

you dont start fucking attacking people and neark killing them on test, it isnt tren you fucking idiot. again, if those are the precautions you have to take then you're a mentally unstable retard. cant believe this retard thinks gh is better than roids. im literally 4500ng/dl. im more confident and extroverted. anger and neuroticism has went down to 0. y

you don't even know what the effects of these compounds are and you're arguing for and against them. like if you're that fucking useless just shut your mouth and let the high IQ people speak.

you're low iq as fuck, cry in your house for the next 3 days that I just made you my abused dog.

LOL MY MAN IS TRYING TO USE THIS GENETIC SPECIMEN AS A POINT AS TO WHY YOU SHOULD TAKE GH >>> ROIDS HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

is that fucking andre the giant? you aren't growing to 7ft with GH you absolute dumbfuck
fr what kind of example is that, are you shitting me?

please make another post, this is comedy gold.

Bro your posts are pure autism check out the shit you are injecting its making you more autistic

Why would you want to cope with steroids if you can get mogger thick bones with HGH and after that you can do whatever you want inject T or steroids it all doesnt matter.

Also you talk about side effects as prolactin, bigger organs but look at andre the giant he seems to be completely fine.

Btw big wrists = big skeleton. But of course for some other areas can be affected more.

 

[BearBoy]

@gigabrad

Yes i know injecting steroids or Testosterone is stronger than taking natty sups, but its not worth it just for some muscle mass. Because look at bodybuilders they lose to arm wrestling champs who dont inject shit. So where is all the strength??

But i understand if its for modeling or for showing off then injecting is the way to go. Just not a good way to ruin your future

Remember bro its not all about slaying in life, if you met someone who looked like hulk i am pretty sure you wouldnt mess with him thats what we need to achieve the intimidating look that gives you this respect. In reality bones are really important but for modeling they arent. Because look what modeling became now even fat subhuman women are being shown now

If steroids didnt shut off i would inject them not even joking

 

[Deleted member 13476]

Bro your posts are pure autism check out the shit you are injecting its making you more autistic

Why would you want to cope with steroids if you can get mogger thick bones with HGH and after that you can do whatever you want inject T or steroids it all doesnt matter.

Also you talk about side effects as prolactin, bigger organs but look at andre the giant he seems to be completely fine.

Btw big wrists = big skeleton. But of course for some other areas can be affected more.

testosterone makes you autistic? damn bro i didn't know. want to both chop our balls off just to make sure we don't have any natural autism production? i'd say it'd work.

it's just not worth it dude. steroids + gh is a decent combo but doing gh on its own for bone growth is just straight up pointless. like you won't get taller or anything, it costs a shit ton. i guess it has its purposes for healing or some shit but it will be absolutely no where near as effective as steroids are.

like bro, just take 2 people. one of them cranks gh for a year, one of them blasts and cruises test. I can absolutely guarantee you 10000% that the dude who does test will look infintely better. the facial bone growth and frame widening you get on test is insane too. gh will amplify it, i just don't think there's much point to running it solo. mk does have its place, i use it on cycle for recovery and its class. but it bloats you like a motherfucker. i ran it solo once, don't see any reason to again.

like im not shitting on gh, its good. but you cant compare it to steroids, they're so much more effective. are you seriously trying to deny that. like who gives a shit about bone thickness (unless you're like anorexic then fair enough), face and physique is king. they should be used together, they have a 1 + 1 = 3 effect if you get me.

 

[Deleted member 13476]

@gigabrad

Yes i know injecting steroids or Testosterone is stronger than taking natty sups, but its not worth it just for some muscle mass. Because look at bodybuilders they lose to arm wrestling champs who dont inject shit. So where is all the strength??

But i understand if its for modeling or for showing off then injecting is the way to go. Just not a good way to ruin your future

Remember bro its not all about slaying in life, if you met someone who looked like hulk i am pretty sure you wouldnt mess with him thats what we need to achieve the intimidating look that gives you this respect. In reality bones are really important but for modeling they arent. Because look what modeling became now even fat subhuman women are being shown now

If steroids didnt shut off i would inject them not even joking

ok g i get you, you're just not informed if i'm honest.

bodybuilders lose to arm wrestlers because they train for hypertrophy (high rep low weight), not for strength. if they trained for strength, they would most likely do far better. strongmen, powerlifters use gear and they train for strength. every professional athlete uses PEDs in some regard, not just bodybuilders. that's an absolute reality.

yeah for modelling etc they are very good. but when you take test, you aren't "sacrificing your future". you're parroting typical fearmongering of them that you hear everywhere. if you are smart and know exactly what you're doing, you will not fuck yourself up.

i dont do them to slay, i dont need to. i do them because i love the gym, im completely hooked on it. even when i was natty i was addicted to it. i have really good genetics and i want to compete further down the line.

not trying to look like hulk or some shit, im 6"4 so nobody fucks with me anyway. alot of people do them for the wrong reason tho so i can see your point.

yeah modelling is a joke now. women dont want to take responsibility for what they eat and the cucked west is catering to that. load of bullshit. it doesn't concern me though.

and yeah, being shut off really is not a problem. you just don't produce T naturally. there is nothing detrimental about that as long as you can be fucked injecting 2x a week. i dont mind injecting so its whatever to me. the pros completely and utterly outweight the cons.

 

[BearBoy]

testosterone makes you autistic? damn bro i didn't know. want to both chop our balls off just to make sure we don't have any natural autism production? i'd say it'd work.

it's just not worth it dude. steroids + gh is a decent combo but doing gh on its own for bone growth is just straight up pointless. like you won't get taller or anything, it costs a shit ton. i guess it has its purposes for healing or some shit but it will be absolutely no where near as effective as steroids are.

like bro, just take 2 people. one of them cranks gh for a year, one of them blasts and cruises test. I can absolutely guarantee you 10000% that the dude who does test will look infintely better. the facial bone growth and frame widening you get on test is insane too. gh will amplify it, i just don't think there's much point to running it solo. mk does have its place, i use it on cycle for recovery and its class. but it bloats you like a motherfucker. i ran it solo once, don't see any reason to again.

like im not shitting on gh, its good. but you cant compare it to steroids, they're so much more effective. are you seriously trying to deny that. like who gives a shit about bone thickness (unless you're like anorexic then fair enough), face and physique is king. they should be used together, they have a 1 + 1 = 3 effect if you get me.

but what if its just a illusion? yes i read a study that showed testosterone does affect bone size, but not the same way as HGH

What if its just the weight lost that makes the bones see better? also losing bloat

I mean if you are still at puberty with acromegaly UI of HGH you can get taller if you didnt reach 21, but after that its worth it for thicker bones.

Also testosterone or steroids might increase vascularity which makes blood flow better which makes your body bigger, for example when your hands are really cold they look smaller because of shit blood circulation

 

[BearBoy]

ok g i get you, you're just not informed if i'm honest.

bodybuilders lose to arm wrestlers because they train for hypertrophy (high rep low weight), not for strength. if they trained for strength, they would most likely do f

Yes you know more than me about injecting and steroids but the fact is that it still shuts you off, i just care about my future and as a ingush this wouldnt work for me anyways since getting caught doing this shit is fucking insane

 

[Deleted member 13626]

Age 21 - 23 is when you are done fully growing, even if growth plates close at age 18 your bones increase in size and you reach peak hormones at age 21

So you are fully manly at age 21

My browridge was flat af at 16, now at 17 it feels harder and i can feel a little bump in the glabella region, my eyes also improved but from side profile , nothing changed visually when it comes to the browridge. Does that mean that my facial bones will grow more until 21?

 

[Deleted member 13476]

Yes you know more than me about injecting and steroids but the fact is that it still shuts you off, i just care about my future and as a ingush this wouldnt work for me anyways since getting caught doing this shit is fucking insane

I just finished the message there bro idk why it only half posted.
And why is it insane to get caught, what country are you in?

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

My browridge was flat af at 16, now at 17 it feels harder and i can feel a little bump in the glabella region, my eyes also improved but from side profile , nothing changed visually when it comes to the browridge. Does that mean that my facial bones will grow more until 21?

This is me when i had just turned 17, 9 months ago

Me now @17 aswell.

You will probably see decent brow growth.

 

[BearBoy]

I just finished the message there bro idk why it only half posted.
And why is it insane to get caught, what country are you in?

Ingushetia bro we are natural high T, high DHT mountain freaks with no balding

i am half ingush half chechen but its same thing just ingush are a little darker

 

[Deleted member 13476]

Ingushetia bro we are natural high T, high DHT mountain freaks with no balding

i am half ingush half chechen but its same thing just ingush are a little darker

then you're very androgenous and if balding doesn't affect you then that's a plus for gear

however, judging by your location you'd be better off wrestling bears or some shit, sounds like youd get punished hard for gear and it'd be difficult to source. it's not a problem in the west.

gtfo of that shithole bro jfl

 

[Deleted member 13626]

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This is me when i had just turned 17, 9 months ago

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Me now @17 aswell.

You will probably see decent brow growth.

What about cheekbones?

 

[BearBoy]

then you're very androgenous and if balding doesn't affect you then that's a plus for gear

however, judging by your location you'd be better off wrestling bears or some shit, sounds like youd get punished hard for gear and it'd be difficult to source. it's not a problem in the west.

gtfo of that shithole bro jfl

Nah bro i love it there no degeneracy, freedom and you do what you want.

there are gyms and everything too just like in west but no degeneracy and people actually have culture and religion

Good place to marry and have kids

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

What about cheekbones?

Dont know tbh.

My cheekbones may have grown in the past 10 months, but it may also be that may face is leaner now.

There definitely difference between when i was 15 and now. But 16, idk. Dont have any good pics to compare

 

[Deleted member 13626]

My browridge was flat af at 16, now at 17 it feels harder and i can feel a little bump in the glabella region, my eyes also improved but from side profile , nothing changed visually when it comes to the browridge. Does that mean that my facial bones will grow more until 21?

@BearBoy

 

[BearBoy]

@Umbra @Bitchwhipper2

Probably yes you are still growing since i have known alot of people who looked low T at age 18 but ogre at 21 you can get quick change

So face can change greatly at age 21 - 23

 

[Deleted member 13626]

@Umbra @Bitchwhipper2

Probably yes you are still growing since i have known alot of people who looked low T at age 18 but ogre at 21 you can get quick change

So face can change greatly at age 21 - 23

What about early puberty, i had mine at like age 10 or so, had many growth spurts, recently when i was 16 and rn i had lots of hormonal imbalances. Is bone growth between the years 19-21 only for those with late or normal puberty or for everyone?

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

What about early puberty, i had mine at like age 10 or so, had many growth spurts, recently when i was 16 and rn i had lots of hormonal imbalances. Is bone growth between the years 19-21 only for those with late or normal puberty or for everyone?

Damn. I hit puberty at like 13 or 14.

I would assume that for you the years are 2 years earlier than average. But there are other factors at play