I dont believe in anything but you cant define something as good or bad, you can say good at what and bad at what, maybe they exist because there isnt a difference in their doings, but how we percieve those actions
Why force people to take a test when you already know the answers in advance as an omniscient being
ur a christian? be specific with your argument. Not good enough.
not the answer but: knowledge isn't compulsion, we still have free will whether God knows what we will choose or not
Yeah but no
read what i said again
Knowing something will happen does not mean causing it
What's your belief then
But acts don't matter if he already knows everything, he set up everything so nothing can be judged that hasn't been judged in advance
Creating everything including time and space and matter and causality and being omnipotent omniscient and omnipresent pretty much does actually
that doesn’t mean he determines every human choice. god’s omniscience means he knows what free agents will do , not that he forces them to do it
What fair judgment when he created free will itself and all the possible choices? A terrorist who died killing shitzillions of innocent people because he was indoctrinated since a kid and didn't know better, would he go to heaven? I mean all he knew was that he did good? What fucking fair judgement?
he knows your free rejection of him before you do it
He pretty much does. You doing evil without the knowledge of evil, simply because you were born in a place where evil is the norm or perhaps taught and encouraged, that is within his plan. Nothing happens without his knowledge or permission.
permission isn’t causation
that's determinism dumbass. He knew from the fucking start billions of his creation will go to eternal damnation to rot and suffer forever and ever, but he couldn't give one less flying fuck. He created them anyways with that knowledge in mind.
That’s not determinism. that’s foreknowledge
You're not god dude. If you create every molecule on that fucking football match, from the grass, the pigskin, and all the players, and how they think, how they make decisions, their own little personalities, their capabilities, their genetics, how the wind blows at a certain times, how the weather was that day, the health of the players, then fucking yes you caused it.That’s not determinism. that’s foreknowledge
ill give an example: If I record a football game and rewatch it, I know the outcome but I didn’t control the players
knowing what someone will freely do ≠ causing them to do it
why u being mean, man
Evil is NECESSARY. God is so good that he strips himself of his powers to allow you to distance yourself from him and do as you please. If you couldn't choose between doing good or evil, you'd just be a robot following orders. You wouldn't really be choosing to do good.
Are you christian?
Some Calvinist might reply: well then he is not omniscient! My answer is that I don't know, but morality presupposes free will and the Calvinist god is not a good and loving god, he is a puppeteer
Did suffering and evil exist in Eden?
How im supposed to know if im a man?
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u can’t ask for free will and then rage when people use it wrongly
i havent finished but im sad they left it on hiatus it would've probably been the best web novel if finished
I'm not raging that people uses it wrongly. What you're quoting there is literally god's own command, for israelites to genocide the amalekites. Down to its last one. Even the kids.
I wouldn't worship a god that demands worship. Was eden a stupid boring ass simulation? Or is heaven (where evil and suffering doesn't exist for eternity) a stupid boring ass simulation?
stupidest argument ever. You only knew about your faith because some men wrote it. Why even believe in god
Lmao just because you can know something doesnt mean that you can know everything. the idea of infinity is not contained in your mind, you could not think of god / heaven etc
Don't even question things bro. You wouldn't get it brooo. Just believe brooooo.
Black or white fallacy, you are basically saying that if you dont know everything you know nothing
I’m not Christian, so I’m not here to defend every genocide verse or bear attack . i don't like christianity at all. the contradictions, the trinity concept, the way they try to explain god being one and three at the same time.. halarious
bro it’s literally called FAITH or it would be called God's theorem if we were talking scientific
I'm agnostic. What are you?
I’m a theist. More specifically, a compatibilist theist
someone who gets it omg I love you
She doesnt exist but evil exists as a result of that only evil is real and evil If no body does any thing evil will preveil
