If u start the gym skinny fat

[Tigermoggerlol]

Don’t except to get anywhere your genes are fucked and u need gear.

I have a couple friends who started the gym skinny fat and after 2 years they look the exact same just with wider shoulders and fatter bc there on the so called “bulk” JFL.

But then I got a dude in my school who started the gym this summer and he alr surpassed both of there physiques bc he started of lean and alr had muscle definition.

I know it’s a hard truth to carry but don’t worry if u start the gym with even as little as sarms then it’s gonna synergies pretty well with noobie gains and you’ll be able to lose fat and gain muscle so you’ll end up with a good body (I’ve seen it before).

Remember it’s genetics, diet, training and PEDs. If u have the last 3 locked in u should be able to build a pretty nice body even if your genes are cooked.

And remember there’s nothing wrong with taking PEDs that’s why they are there

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Bump

 

[idkmanimao]

Don’t except to get anywhere your genes are fucked and u need gear.

I have a couple friends who started the gym skinny fat and after 2 years they look the exact same just with wider shoulders and fatter bc there on the so called “bulk” JFL.

But then I got a dude in my school who started the gym this summer and he alr surpassed both of there physiques bc he started of lean and alr had muscle definition.

I know it’s a hard truth to carry but don’t worry if u start the gym with even as little as sarms then it’s gonna synergies pretty well with noobie gains and you’ll be able to lose fat and gain muscle so you’ll end up with a good body (I’ve seen it before).

Remember it’s genetics, diet, training and PEDs. If u have the last 3 locked in u should be able to build a pretty nice body even if your genes are cooked.

And remember there’s nothing wrong with taking PEDs that’s why they are there

thought skinny fat just meant you had higher bf% while not having lots of muscle. You should be able to fix it naturally. Lean out-then lean bulk over the years. But yes just take roids, there's no point in being natty

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

thought skinny fat just meant you had higher bf% while not having lots of muscle. You should be able to fix it naturally. Lean out-then lean bulk over the years. But yes just take roids, there's no point in being natty

It’s gonna take a very along time ik Hamaza did eventually get lean and jacked but it took him 7-8 years jfl

 

[idkmanimao]

It’s gonna take a very along time ik Hamaza did eventually get lean and jacked but it took him 7-8 years jfl

yeah well it's different for everyone/it depends the size your talking about. This was "3 years"

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

yeah well it's different for everyone/it depends the size your talking about. This was "3 years"

This guy is even that big he just abuses lighting and angles and he didn’t start of skinny fat he was alr pretty robust before just fat.

 

[idkmanimao]

This guy is even that big he just abuses lighting and angles and he didn’t start of skinny fat he was alr pretty robust before just fat.

what are you talking about? he's skinny fat.

and yes he's pretty big

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

You should do roids after 1 year of perfect lifting routine atleast

You'll then make the most of them.

 

[UMIRINBRAH?]

you can do it without roids but will take much longer. A solid 2 year bulk and then a proper cut

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

what are you talking about? he's skinny fat.View attachment 4023679



and yes he's pretty big

This guy in the photo has thin wrists he’s not robust at all the other guys was.
And this dude in the video not only had good genetics he’s enhanced asf.

and yes he's pretty big

He’s big but ik what he’s doing ik these tricks to well, irl with a shirt on he would look somewhat jacked

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

You should do roids after 1 year of perfect lifting routine atleast

You'll then make the most of them.

Nah bro it’s better when u first start so that way it can synergies with noobie gains. Lucas Karger did it as soon as he started lifting and he gained 80 pounds of almost all muscle in 1 year (he has elite genes tho)

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

you can do it without roids but will take much longer. A solid 2 year bulk and then a proper cut

That’s the thing tho on the bulk your not gonna gain any muscle bc at 20%bf your insulin is so fucked you’ll gain barely any size and then when u do cut after getting to 30%bf your gonna lose most of your gains bc 1. Your natty 2. Genetics are shit your body is gonna eat its muscle to and 3. It’s embarrassing to be lifting that long to end up with the same body your friend got by doing push ups in his room for a month

 

[UMIRINBRAH?]

That’s the thing tho on the bulk your not gonna gain any muscle bc at 20%bf your insulin is so fucked you’ll gain barely any size and then when u do cut after getting to 30%bf your gonna lose most of your gains bc 1. Your natty 2. Genetics are shit your body is gonna eat its muscle to and 3. It’s embarrassing to be lifting that long to end up with the same body your friend got by doing push ups in his room for a month

fair

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Nah bro it’s better when u first start so that way it can synergies with noobie gains. Lucas Karger did it as soon as he started lifting and he gained 80 pounds of almost all muscle in 1 year (he has elite genes tho)

Well ok

But a advanced level of knowledge pertaining to lifting atleast, even if no actual lifting experience

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Well ok

But a advanced level of knowledge pertaining to lifting atleast, even if no actual lifting experience

Yeah I see what u mean. I mean I would assume noobies do a lil research before stepping in the gym anyway at least that’s what I did.

 

[mogtivism]

That’s the thing tho on the bulk your not gonna gain any muscle bc at 20%bf your insulin is so fucked you’ll gain barely any size and then when u do cut after getting to 30%bf your gonna lose most of your gains bc 1. Your natty 2. Genetics are shit your body is gonna eat its muscle to and 3. It’s embarrassing to be lifting that long to end up with the same body your friend got by doing push ups in his room for a month

I can shill for this from personal experience.

If you are skinnyfat, like really skinnyfat not “skinny without abs” like every dumbass calling themselves “skinnyfat” these days, you’re likely at 25,28,30+ % bodyfat but with zero muscle. If you take the normoid advice of “just maingain” you’ll lose barely any fat and gain barely any muscle. If you take the powercoper/“noble natty” route Of “just leanbulk bro!1!!1” you will find yourself surprised to see that in 6 months of a controlled surplus, and consistent training to failure you’ve gained 14 lbs weight with ZERO of it being muscle!

Why does this happen? Because you nutrition partitioning gets WORSE the higher in bodyfat you are and your testosterone PLUMMETS when you have excess visceral fat, which is what most skinnyfats have!

This is a article by a man who naturally transformed his physique from skinnyfat to buff where he speaks about this phenomenon that no jeff nippard or revival fitness will touch:

The Secret Benefit of Getting Lean Before Bulking

If you are considering to bulk despite having a fairly high bodyfat percentage, I want you to read about the secret benefit of getting lean before bulking.

skinnyfattransformation.com

I’ve seen this myself so many times. Skinny guy joins gym, eats, makes excellent gains. Skinnyfat guy joins gym, eats, gets fat asf, cuts back to skinnyfat, repeats forever, no gains.

The truth is that if you want to build muscle as a guy starting skinnyfat you NEED to strip all the bullshit ass fat off first! Youtubers will tell you otherwise because they were never skinnyfat and they never dealt with this problem. Strip the fat off, gain insulin sensitivity and testosterone, THEN either slowly bulk naturally accepting you don’t have great genetics, or risk SARMS.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

I can shill for this from personal experience.

If you are skinnyfat, like really skinnyfat not “skinny without abs” like every dumbass calling themselves “skinnyfat” these days, you’re likely at 25,28,30+ % bodyfat but with zero muscle. If you take the normoid advice of “just maingain” you’ll lose barely any fat and gain barely any muscle. If you take the powercoper/“noble natty” route Of “just leanbulk bro!1!!1” you will find yourself surprised to see that in 6 months of a controlled surplus, and consistent training to failure you’ve gained 14 lbs weight with ZERO of it being muscle!

Why does this happen? Because you nutrition partitioning gets WORSE the higher in bodyfat you are and your testosterone PLUMMETS when you have excess visceral fat, which is what most skinnyfats have!

This is a article by a man who naturally transformed his physique from skinnyfat to buff where he speaks about this phenomenon that no jeff nippard or revival fitness will touch:

The Secret Benefit of Getting Lean Before Bulking

If you are considering to bulk despite having a fairly high bodyfat percentage, I want you to read about the secret benefit of getting lean before bulking.

skinnyfattransformation.com

I’ve seen this myself so many times. Skinny guy joins gym, eats, makes excellent gains. Skinnyfat guy joins gym, eats, gets fat asf, cuts back to skinnyfat, repeats forever, no gains.

The truth is that if you want to build muscle as a guy starting skinnyfat you NEED to strip all the bullshit ass fat off first! Youtubers will tell you otherwise because they were never skinnyfat and they never dealt with this problem. Strip the fat off, gain insulin sensitivity and testosterone, THEN either slowly bulk naturally accepting you don’t have great genetics, or risk SARMS.

U just repeated what I said bro I acc said the same thing in my “there’s no point of gymmaxxing naturaly” but yeah read every molecule I agree. Some ppl just can not strip the fat off since they have very little muscle they’ll have to eat like 1k calories a day and that’s just sustainable for anyone. And they’ll end up just at 20% bf and platue. If u start of skinny fat by definition your a genetic dead end and u need gear. Even ifs just sarms.

 

[Foreverbrad]

I can shill for this from personal experience.

If you are skinnyfat, like really skinnyfat not “skinny without abs” like every dumbass calling themselves “skinnyfat” these days, you’re likely at 25,28,30+ % bodyfat but with zero muscle. If you take the normoid advice of “just maingain” you’ll lose barely any fat and gain barely any muscle. If you take the powercoper/“noble natty” route Of “just leanbulk bro!1!!1” you will find yourself surprised to see that in 6 months of a controlled surplus, and consistent training to failure you’ve gained 14 lbs weight with ZERO of it being muscle!

Why does this happen? Because you nutrition partitioning gets WORSE the higher in bodyfat you are and your testosterone PLUMMETS when you have excess visceral fat, which is what most skinnyfats have!

This is a article by a man who naturally transformed his physique from skinnyfat to buff where he speaks about this phenomenon that no jeff nippard or revival fitness will touch:

The Secret Benefit of Getting Lean Before Bulking

If you are considering to bulk despite having a fairly high bodyfat percentage, I want you to read about the secret benefit of getting lean before bulking.

skinnyfattransformation.com

I’ve seen this myself so many times. Skinny guy joins gym, eats, makes excellent gains. Skinnyfat guy joins gym, eats, gets fat asf, cuts back to skinnyfat, repeats forever, no gains.

The truth is that if you want to build muscle as a guy starting skinnyfat you NEED to strip all the bullshit ass fat off first! Youtubers will tell you otherwise because they were never skinnyfat and they never dealt with this problem. Strip the fat off, gain insulin sensitivity and testosterone, THEN either slowly bulk naturally accepting you don’t have great genetics, or risk SARMS.

Nah it goes beyond testosterone levels, I’m skinny fat even on tren. Genetics are everything. I can either be an 80kg twink or a 90kg skinny fat or literally die to steroids and tbh I choose option 3

 

[mogtivism]

U just repeated what I said bro I acc said the same thing in my “there’s no point of gymmaxxing naturaly” but yeah read every molecule I agree. Some ppl just can not strip the fat off since they have very little muscle they’ll have to eat like 1k calories a day and that’s just sustainable for anyone. And they’ll end up just at 20% bf and platue. If u start of skinny fat by definition your a genetic dead end and u need gear. Even ifs just sarms.

I actually plateaued recently at 21% bodyfat, 153-154lbs for 16 days.

How I solved it was I ate for 10 days at way higher calories, reduced cardio to 3x a week, and then I went back into the deficit and added cardio except 200 calories lower and found myself burning fat again. I’m at 152lbs rn, 19% bodyfat and dropping further. Started this cut at 170ish lbs 28% bodyfat, but i’ve been 180 and in the 30%’s before. Just 7lbs away from goal at which point i’ll bulk, significant progress made in reducing gut.

If you’re skinnyfat and therefore have a shit metabolism that starts to adapt hard when you get closer to your goal weight, the best thing to do is to take a diet break, eat higher calories and then get back into it. Your metabolism will speed up a bit, as will your NEET(Non-Exercise Activity Thermogenesis)

 

[mogtivism]

Nah it goes beyond testosterone levels, I’m skinny fat even on tren. Genetics are everything. I can either be an 80kg twink or a 90kg skinny fat or literally die to steroids and tbh I choose option 3

Brutal. I’m not going to bother asking “muh is your training good” “muh diet” but how long have you been roiding and are you sure you didn’t buy some bunk crap?

There’s a lot of fake roids online where the seller sells a blend of prohormones like 1-andro which just give side effects and gyno with no gains. If you bought your shit from “high tech pharmaceuticals” it is 100% bunk trash.

 

[tunisianropemaxxer]

Don’t except to get anywhere your genes are fucked and u need gear.

I have a couple friends who started the gym skinny fat and after 2 years they look the exact same just with wider shoulders and fatter bc there on the so called “bulk” JFL.

But then I got a dude in my school who started the gym this summer and he alr surpassed both of there physiques bc he started of lean and alr had muscle definition.

I know it’s a hard truth to carry but don’t worry if u start the gym with even as little as sarms then it’s gonna synergies pretty well with noobie gains and you’ll be able to lose fat and gain muscle so you’ll end up with a good body (I’ve seen it before).

Remember it’s genetics, diet, training and PEDs. If u have the last 3 locked in u should be able to build a pretty nice body even if your genes are cooked.

And remember there’s nothing wrong with taking PEDs that’s why they are there

I mean if ur skinny fat after puberty its over,during puberty is fine,before puberty is bad

 

[edodalic29]

now add wide hips to that


that was me for 2-3 years natty btw , the brootal days of constantly getting mogged

 

[jeoyw9192]

Don’t except to get anywhere your genes are fucked and u need gear.

I have a couple friends who started the gym skinny fat and after 2 years they look the exact same just with wider shoulders and fatter bc there on the so called “bulk” JFL.

But then I got a dude in my school who started the gym this summer and he alr surpassed both of there physiques bc he started of lean and alr had muscle definition.

I know it’s a hard truth to carry but don’t worry if u start the gym with even as little as sarms then it’s gonna synergies pretty well with noobie gains and you’ll be able to lose fat and gain muscle so you’ll end up with a good body (I’ve seen it before).

Remember it’s genetics, diet, training and PEDs. If u have the last 3 locked in u should be able to build a pretty nice body even if your genes are cooked.

And remember there’s nothing wrong with taking PEDs that’s why they are there

5'5 is kinda brutal

 

[Swarthy Knight]

What if I'm skinny fat and trynna leanmax

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Nah it goes beyond testosterone levels, I’m skinny fat even on tren. Genetics are everything. I can either be an 80kg twink or a 90kg skinny fat or literally die to steroids and tbh I choose option 3

I’m so sorry man

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

I actually plateaued recently at 21% bodyfat, 153-154lbs for 16 days.

How I solved it was I ate for 10 days at way higher calories, reduced cardio to 3x a week, and then I went back into the deficit and added cardio except 200 calories lower and found myself burning fat again. I’m at 152lbs rn, 19% bodyfat and dropping further. Started this cut at 170ish lbs 28% bodyfat, but i’ve been 180 and in the 30%’s before. Just 7lbs away from goal at which point i’ll bulk, significant progress made in reducing gut.

If you’re skinnyfat and therefore have a shit metabolism that starts to adapt hard when you get closer to your goal weight, the best thing to do is to take a diet break, eat higher calories and then get back into it. Your metabolism will speed up a bit, as will your NEET(Non-Exercise Activity Thermogenesis)

Water. I’ve been stuck at 15%bf even on rad 140 (I started of 30%bf tho) and I’m just sitting at 150 15% bf at 5’6. Metabolism is everything ppl say it’s cope and your diet… nope.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

now add wide hips to that


that was me for 2-3 years natty btw , the brootal days of constantly getting mogged

That’s why I always convince beginners in my gym to just start roidmaxxing now so they don’t waist time. One of my irls is alr taking sarms and he’s new to the gym

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

What if I'm skinny fat and trynna leanmax

U need a sarms or a high androgen to anabolic ratio roid to boost your metabolism like crazy while still adding muscle and stripping off fat

 

[Swarthy Knight]

U need a sarms or a high androgen to anabolic ratio roid to boost your metabolism like crazy while still adding muscle and stripping off fat

So you believe it's not possible to do natty?

 

[genetically fucked]

i kinda disagree. its because skinnyfat people have dogshit diets and they're at the worst starting point ever. their bodyfat is high so they should cut but they have 0 muscle so they need to gain more but if they started a bulk theyd just get fatter and look like shit. cant have your cake and eat it too..

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

So you believe it's not possible to do natty?

Nah I don’t I’ve never seen a natty skinny fat transformation actually go well. They either bulk from 20%bf to 30%bf with no additional muscle or starve to death and look malnourished

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

i kinda disagree. its because skinnyfat people have dogshit diets and they're at the worst starting point ever. their bodyfat is high so they should cut but they have 0 muscle so they need to gain more but if they started a bulk theyd just get fatter and look like shit. cant have your cake and eat it too..

Nah it’s just genetics dude. Diet is cope. I can tell u rn chad at your hs with 6 pack abs just eats Chips and ice cream JFL

 

[genetically fucked]

Nah it’s just genetics dude. Diet is cope. I can tell u rn chad at your hs with 6 pack abs just eats Chips and ice cream JFL

of course there will be genetic freaks, but i'm talking about the average american. if you've ever been to a waterpark here you'd start to realize that it's due to the food

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

of course there will be genetic freaks, but i'm talking about the average american. if you've ever been to a waterpark here you'd start to realize that it's due to the food

It’s both food and genetics. Sure u can fix your diet and get somewhat lean. But you’ll never truly be shredded with a ton of muscle natty

 

[genetically fucked]

you’ll never truly be shredded with a ton of muscle natty

most people wont even with good genetics though

 

[mogtivism]

now add wide hips to that


that was me for 2-3 years natty btw , the brootal days of constantly getting mogged

How were your results post roids? I’m approaching 3 years nattycoping and am currently focused on just scraping off all the bodyfat before i bother bulking.

i kinda disagree. its because skinnyfat people have dogshit diets and they're at the worst starting point ever. their bodyfat is high so they should cut but they have 0 muscle so they need to gain more but if they started a bulk theyd just get fatter and look like shit. cant have your cake and eat it too..

Changing your diet alone won’t save you and diet doesn’t fully account for shitass bodytypes. If you’re already at high bodyfat due to having a shitty diet when you were a kid and poor insulin sensitivity, and then you correct your diet, unless that correction includes a steep calorie deficit that lets you drop the fat it won’t ultimately matter or do much for you. First step of a successful skinnyfat transformation is that the bodyfat must go.

It’s both food and genetics. Sure u can fix your diet and get somewhat lean. But you’ll never truly be shredded with a ton of muscle natty

This is true. If you’re starting skinnyfat, the best you could aim for naturally is to do chad’s 6 month transformation in 3 years and be stuck there. You ain’t becoming a mass monster while having a naturally thin skeleton that can’t support that mass and worse androgen receptor activity.

 

[jeoyw9192]

Nah it goes beyond testosterone levels, I’m skinny fat even on tren. Genetics are everything. I can either be an 80kg twink or a 90kg skinny fat or literally die to steroids and tbh I choose option 3

ur not 5'5 though are you? OP is 5'5 talking about all this lets not feel too bad about ourselves just yet

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

most people wont even with good genetics though

No? If u have good genetics u can eat got slop and maintain a 6 pack JFL

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

This is true. If you’re starting skinnyfat, the best you could aim for naturally is to do chad’s 6 month transformation in 3 years and be stuck there. You ain’t becoming a mass monster while having a naturally thin skeleton that can’t support that mass and worse androgen receptor activity.

your not even gonna become a mass monster in general. Majority of the ppl don’t even get the athletic build. And even if they do that’s the farthest they’ll ever go natty

 

[mogtivism]

your not even gonna become a mass monster in general. Majority of the ppl don’t even get the athletic build. And even if they do that’s the farthest they’ll ever go natty

I agree, i know 2 guys who naturally became mass monsters training inconsistently and partially squandering their gifts, but these both got 8ish inch wrists(huge skeleton) which most guys don’t. It’s funny to me how ”muh noble natty” fitness youtubers such as GVS consider that +15lbs of muscle over baseline physique a “beginner” one, when realistically you’d be LUCKY to be able to obtain it.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

I agree, i know 2 guys who naturally became mass monsters training inconsistently and partially squandering their gifts, but these both got 8ish inch wrists(huge skeleton) which most guys don’t. It’s funny to me how ”muh noble natty” fitness youtubers such as GVS consider that +15lbs of muscle over baseline physique a “beginner” one, when realistically you’d be LUCKY to be able to obtain it.

Exactly bro and if u have bad genetics it’s even worse. This was hamza 3 years into the gym

 

[mogtivism]

Exactly bro and if u have bad genetics it’s even worse. This was hamza 3 years into the gym
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There was a thread on .org or .is, imma try to find it where they exposed hamza for asking on Reddit where to find nolva or something for PCT. It’s entirely possible he roided at some point but not confirmed. Given he’s had cosmetic ear surgery i would not put it past him lol.

Although when he started training he did so at home from what i heard at like 14 and let’s be real you can’t trust a 14 year old to count macros, train properly, train hard.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

There was a thread on .org or .is, imma try to find it where they exposed hamza for asking on Reddit where to find nolva or something for PCT. It’s entirely possible he roided at some point but not confirmed. Given he’s had cosmetic ear surgery i would not put it past him lol.

Although when he started training he did so at home from what i heard at like 14 and let’s be real you can’t trust a 14 year old to count macros, train properly, train hard.

Nah that pic of him was in his 20s he said at that time he was alr training for 3 years consistently with a good diet JFL

 

[mogtivism]

Nah that pic of him was in his 20s he said at that time he was alr training for 3 years consistently with a good diet JFL

Brutal geneticspill.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Brutal geneticspill.

Gym is like 80% genetics 10% diet/ recovery 10% training JFL

 

[mogson]

Don’t except to get anywhere your genes are fucked and u need gear.

I have a couple friends who started the gym skinny fat and after 2 years they look the exact same just with wider shoulders and fatter bc there on the so called “bulk” JFL.

But then I got a dude in my school who started the gym this summer and he alr surpassed both of there physiques bc he started of lean and alr had muscle definition.

I know it’s a hard truth to carry but don’t worry if u start the gym with even as little as sarms then it’s gonna synergies pretty well with noobie gains and you’ll be able to lose fat and gain muscle so you’ll end up with a good body (I’ve seen it before).

Remember it’s genetics, diet, training and PEDs. If u have the last 3 locked in u should be able to build a pretty nice body even if your genes are cooked.

And remember there’s nothing wrong with taking PEDs that’s why they are there

agreed for the most part as someone who started skinny fat. been gong for like 3 years and i havent taken PEDs or any supplements and i haven't bulked. as long as you dont bulk when u go youll make progress, but starting skinny as shit is 100% better time and time again. no girls like fat dudes

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

agreed for the most part as someone who started skinny fat. been gong for like 3 years and i havent taken PEDs or any supplements and i haven't bulked. as long as you dont bulk when u go youll make progress, but starting skinny as shit is 100% better time and time again. no girls like fat dudes

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