If you're actually racist, why?

[noodlelover]

That's more a reflection of anglo-saxon post-colonial culture which is heavily into racial and social segregation.

Let's be honest, I see a lot of americans complain about niggers but they wouldn't be hood rats if they weren't in hoods in the first place. If you put a bunch of poor, unaducated people segregated, what kind of culture do you think will emerge in there?

Crux of the issue is assimilation. A lot of racial tension in america could've easily been solved with assimilating blacks in the american society as opposed to segregating them. As long as the ''civilized'' portion of society is the majority, people will assimilate to that.

How do I know that? Just go to any other western country with a significant black population. Black people in Germany, although few, don't behave like animals, as in North America. Turks and Arabs here do, though. Although in this case it's not Germany's fault, religion plays a huge role in how well someone can assimilate into a culture too (and muslim and christian societies are completely different).

Fair point.

But percentage matters. Once a race is a significant percentage of the population they will form communities. And they will have their own culture.

Assimilation works best when you're dealing with smaller percentages.

 

[noodlelover]

Scientists (theists and atheists) unanimously agree there was a beginning to our material universe.

Not true.

 

[Gengar]

Note to self: OP is Tyrone.

 

[King Solomon]

Not true.

It's true.

 

[Tenshi]

Fair point.

But percentage matters. Once a race is a significant percentage of the population they will form communities. And they will have their own culture.

Assimilation works best when you're dealing with smaller percentages.

Blacks have always been a minority in America, even to this day. It was not like in Brazil where blacks were almost 30% back in the day (and yet, I think blacks in Brazil and Latin America is general they are way more assimilated, there's really no equivalent to ''Black culture'' in LatAm).

But to give an opposite example, take France. The Romans managed to completely assimilate a population of natives Celts being the minority in there. Nothing that a modern 18th century America couldn't have done with barely 10-15% of blacks in their population.

 

[King Solomon]

Jews are more like autistic Arabs.

Ashkenazi Jevvs are a mixture of the seed of Abraham with 4 different canaanite females. The Scientists have proven their blood is 50% Canaanite blood. They came from Esau

Arabs are also came from the seed of Abraham in Ishmael but the female is Hagar a black African Egyptian slave. Arab means mixed race.

 

[noodlelover]

It's true.

Steven Hawking for example, proposed possibilities for the universe not having a beginning.

Steven Hawking is a well respected cosmologist. Cosmologists are a type of scientist.

 

[noodlelover]

Blacks have always been a minority in America, even to this day. It was not like in Brazil where blacks were almost 30% back in the day (and yet, I think blacks in Brazil and Latin America is general they are way more assimilated, there's really no equivalent to ''Black culture'' in LatAm).

But to give an opposite example, take France. The Romans managed to completely assimilate a population of natives Celts being the minority in there. Nothing that a modern 18th century America couldn't have done with barely 10-15% of blacks in their population.

Are there any countries with relatively low crime rates, with percentages of blacks that high?

Because at that point, sure blacks are assimilating to "non-black culture" but non-black's are also assimilating to "black culture". It's like if you mix red and yellow, you get green.

I mean Green's not bad, but every one has an effect on culture.

 

[Nightloner]

because I'm not an idiot and I realize that people are different in many ways. And so I can visually identify the person in front of me just by looking at their race and I'll be right most of the time.

 

[Tenshi]

Are there any countries with relatively low crime rates, with percentages of blacks that high?

Because at that point, sure blacks are assimilating to "non-black culture" but non-black's are also assimilating to "black culture". It's like if you mix red and yellow, you get green.

I mean Green's not bad, but every one has an effect on culture.

It's complicated because violence is highly correlated with poverty and inequality, also police inefficiency (which also comes with being a poor, undeveloped country), and most ''black'' countries are obviously poor. There are a few island and former (or still, de facto) French/Dutch colonies with a huge proportion of blacks and mixed people who are fairly decent places and with good HDI.

Although, unlike many people believe, even African countries are not as violent as they might imagine. If you look at the GPI (image above) you'll see quite a few countries in Africa are safer than many wealthier countries (a lot of it because they're less industrialized and more rural countries, rural societies tend to be safer than urban ones, usually).

As for influence in culture I do agree to some extent, but we also need to remember that these blacks were slaves, they didn't really had a ''culture'', if anything, they already had their owners culture as their link with Africa was long gone.

I have to look that up more, but when did the association between blacks and violence started to appear in society? It seemed to me that even despite the whole segregation thing, black people had more stable communities before. Their cultural production was also good. I'd say it was somewhere around the 60s and 70s where things really escalated.

 

[Sovvton]

Omfg this thread is still alive @Sovvton

Racial discourse is a giga easy way to divide people and keep them arguing, thats why the government relies on it so heavily

 

[Tenshi]

Puppet leaders and the fact that most of africas resources are being exploited by outside nations

Many african leaders who wanted to stop being cucks to the west have had "mysterious deaths" genuinely do some research on it, its pretty depressing stuff tbh

Many African countries are really, really new countries. People don't really know that most african countries gained independence in the 70s and even up to the 90s.

You can't just become rich over night. Even exceptional cases like South Korea took like 50 years and still had the US pumping mad money there. But most african countries are actually doing good, it's the continent that grows the most right now.

 

[alriodai]

i'm generally not a hateful person, and what you're describing is colorism. i don't give a shit what others look like and i may be a loser although i'm not some basement dwelling degenerate that truly cares about the appearance of others

you mistake me for a raging racist that looks for every opportunity to put others down although all i'm saying is that the people apart of the problem are the ones who should be held accountable for their actions. there is literally nothing wrong with that

in other replies you ask that other dude if they think all black people are just retarded hoodlums and the problem is a lot are. it doesn't have to do with your race. it's just common due to where and how those people grew up

do you like gang violence? why shouldn't people care about black on black crimes? if i was as dense as a neutron star i'd say that those problems solve themselves although they don't because it's essentially just a loop of misery. people kill eachother, the same shit areas stay the same, and more people are born to said areas

i severely dislike people with a "gang attitude". there's no better word for it, it isn't always black people- do you not see retarded white teenagers trying to act gang? do you not see the glorification of it? pussies who grew up in the suburbs with a loving single mother glorify that type of stuff. open ur eyes

notice how i didn't say shit about excusing racism when replying to this thread, i just pointed out how if certain crime statistics are true there's absolutely fucking nothing wrong with pointing them out. that's literally all i said i'm not here to argue because i have no point in doing so. humans are fucked and i don't give a shit if you aren't caucasian

colorism? colorism literally means discrimination of the skin tone of people within that same race group/ethnic group, what it means is a lightskin black dude making fun of a darkskin black dude for being dark, meanwhile white brah or white passing brah just look at them as niggas

and if you actually REALLY cared for the problem you'd understand that this is a result of late stage capitalism and how technology and their environnement shapes them, do I excuse their "behavior" (for the ones that actually commit crimes) no, but most racists use that as an excuse to their racial beliefs and claim it's "genetics"

in chicago, the first people who actually started gangs were actually white people, this is very well documented, they were in the same situation as the same gang members of today (mexicans and blacks), as in shit environnement, shit education, super shit to succed, not only that, but the fact that they can't get a job because just having an arrest on their reports = over with

the "gang" and black on black crime is so funny because it's actually just OVER mediatized due to music and white people wanting to be black so bad (cringe) but most of theses guys are pussies, mexican gangs are way more dangerous, attack more innocent people and rob them, and are more ruthless on average, i can name 5 articles of actually 5 innocent people getting killed by mexican gangs in chicago only this year

people cherry pick the "black muh niggers" problem because they just hate black people and WANT a reason to justify their hate, "pointing" out your crime statistics that are wrong in the first place (13% to 26%, not 50% at ALL) is just a retard tactic made by alt right fags to justify their racism

if you cared about anything you'd understand that this problem is way more deep than it actually is but you just choose to act like you have the moral high ground on it by choosing easy racist ways to justify it

CRIME cannot be solved in capitalistic societies, IT IS NEEDED, especially in "first world countries" like USA, france, blabla, it's used to justify so many shit wether it's political or for law enforcement (+ their funding), propaganda, etc ...

 

[alriodai]

Let's be honest, I see a lot of americans complain about niggers but they wouldn't be hood rats if they weren't in hoods in the first place. If you put a bunch of poor, unaducated people segregated, what kind of culture do you think will emerge in there?

This is what I just said in the first place, Chicago's first ever gangs that went thru till the 80s/90s (the demographics of theses gangs changed from white to latino/black slowly thru the late 80s to 90s) were WHITE, made by WHITE PEOPLE that lived in poverty and weren't getting assimilated
IT IS A an actual FACT that theses same white gang members were helped to change their life around with many opportunities wether it's free jobs or educations

The same is actually slowly happening to black and mexican gangs, although it might not be noticeable to you guys since retards and baiters love to over medatize the gang violence and gang rap music and blabla, but it is happening, crime and homicides in theses cities are way way way slowing around compared to the 90s/00s and it might get way better in the 2030s than it was

 

[noodlelover]

I appreciate the intelligent well researched reply.

It's complicated because violence is highly correlated with poverty and inequality, also police inefficiency (which also comes with being a poor, undeveloped country), and most ''black'' countries are obviously poor. There are a few island and former (or still, de facto) French/Dutch colonies with a huge proportion of blacks and mixed people who are fairly decent places and with good HDI.

Although, unlike many people believe, even African countries are not as violent as they might imagine. If you look at the GPI (image above) you'll see quite a few countries in Africa are safer than many wealthier countries (a lot of it because they're less industrialized and more rural countries, rural societies tend to be safer than urban ones, usually).

As for influence in culture I do agree to some extent, but we also need to remember that these blacks were slaves, they didn't really had a ''culture'', if anything, they already had their owners culture as their link with Africa was long gone.

I have to look that up more, but when did the association between blacks and violence started to appear in society?

Before the Civil war. If you read old books they talk about it. And that was the reason the KKK was founded, to protect white women from being raped, and protect society from black people raping and killing.

But the belief was that black people were like wild animals, that could be tamed to a degree for manual labor.

It seemed to me that even despite the whole segregation thing, black people had more stable communities before. Their cultural production was also good. I'd say it was somewhere around the 60s and 70s where things really escalated.

I think that's mostly a modern narrative on the past.

I could be wrong.

But seeing how events I lived through, even as a child, have been reframed by the modern narrative makes me realize how strong a culture's framing is.

So a country like Ghana is one of Africa's most peaceful countries.

It's tough to say how much of that is genetic vs cultural. Supposable there's a larger genetic difference between Africans than non-Africans.

I do believe that Ai will make the areas of the world with the highest crime more peaceful. As Ai becomes smarter, it becomes a subtle social influence on every one. It's will basically be a friend in every one's pocket that could nudge them towards peaceful solutions.

You know how in Christianity, Jesus is normally represented as being the same race as the people, so black jesus, white jesus, and asian jesus. That's how Ai will be, where people will use whatever race and personality feels most comfortable to them.

 

[noodlelover]

This is what I just said in the first place, Chicago's first ever gangs that went thru till the 80s/90s (the demographics of theses gangs changed from white to latino/black slowly thru the late 80s to 90s) were WHITE, made by WHITE PEOPLE that lived in poverty and weren't getting assimilated
IT IS A an actual FACT that theses same white gang members were helped to change their life around with many opportunities wether it's free jobs or educations

The same is actually slowly happening to black and mexican gangs, although it might not be noticeable to you guys since retards and baiters love to over medatize the gang violence and gang rap music and blabla, but it is happening, crime and homicides in theses cities are way way way slowing around compared to the 90s/00s and it might get way better in the 2030s than it was

Scarcity creates crime.

Poor areas need investment into, water, infrastructure, food security, internet, police, and other services.

 

[pinkcel]

colorism? colorism literally means discrimination of the skin tone of people within that same race group/ethnic group, what it means is a lightskin black dude making fun of a darkskin black dude for being dark, meanwhile white brah or white passing brah just look at them as niggas

and if you actually REALLY cared for the problem you'd understand that this is a result of late stage capitalism and how technology and their environnement shapes them, do I excuse their "behavior" (for the ones that actually commit crimes) no, but most racists use that as an excuse to their racial beliefs and claim it's "genetics"

in chicago, the first people who actually started gangs were actually white people, this is very well documented, they were in the same situation as the same gang members of today (mexicans and blacks), as in shit environnement, shit education, super shit to succed, not only that, but the fact that they can't get a job because just having an arrest on their reports = over with

the "gang" and black on black crime is so funny because it's actually just OVER mediatized due to music and white people wanting to be black so bad (cringe) but most of theses guys are pussies, mexican gangs are way more dangerous, attack more innocent people and rob them, and are more ruthless on average, i can name 5 articles of actually 5 innocent people getting killed by mexican gangs in chicago only this year

people cherry pick the "black muh niggers" problem because they just hate black people and WANT a reason to justify their hate, "pointing" out your crime statistics that are wrong in the first place (13% to 26%, not 50% at ALL) is just a retard tactic made by alt right fags to justify their racism

if you cared about anything you'd understand that this problem is way more deep than it actually is but you just choose to act like you have the moral high ground on it by choosing easy racist ways to justify it

CRIME cannot be solved in capitalistic societies, IT IS NEEDED, especially in "first world countries" like USA, france, blabla, it's used to justify so many shit wether it's political or for law enforcement (+ their funding), propaganda, etc ...

right .. when i say colorism you know what i mean, it's basically the same thing

no, but most racists use that as an excuse to their racial beliefs and claim it's "genetics"

this is exactly what i'm talking about. brainless hatred. i don't do this

if you cared about anything you'd understand that this problem is way more deep than it actually is but you just choose to act like you have the moral high ground on it by choosing easy racist ways to justify it

literally explained how i wasn't doing this in the other reply. feels like you're either just uselessly commenting on what i said or you didn't read my reply at all

one last time. i'm saying that if someone says "ohhhh a bunch of black people did this!!" that doesn't make them racist if there's proof. this applies to literally every race

 

[pinkcel]

False, there was a beginning to our material reality and this is agreed with by all top scientists (atheists and Christians). Now the question is qhat is the intelligence behind the design.

I have created a thread just for you. Thank me later. Let me know when you're ready for me to baptize you.

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just because there was a beginning doesn't mean it was from absolutely nothing

quantum mechanics makes that pretty clear. "nothing" is just a bunch of incoherent scientific bullshit .. the thing that likely started the universe from nothing is a bunch of random particles that spark in and out of existence until something eventually happens

this means the universe probably came from some kind of preexisting state, not from absolute nothingness (for example, once the universe dies, the same thing will happen if this is the actual way the universe came into existence)

there’s always some kind of foundation even if people don’t fully get it yet. and that doesn't mean some grand intelligent design is behind everything, it’s more likely just the way the "universe" (whatever it actually may be) works. the “beginning” doesn’t have to mean “nothing.”

 

[alriodai]

literally explained how i wasn't doing this in the other reply. feels like you're either just uselessly commenting on what i said or you didn't read my reply at all

one last time. i'm saying that if someone says "ohhhh a bunch of black people did this!!" that doesn't make them racist if there's proof. this applies to literally every race

but that's the main problem, you're essentializing them and normies and average npcs are so retarded that they get a warped view of it
media is easily manipulated to cater to whatever division they want to make

this explains it more in detail and why it's bad for you to do that / say that

i hold the same leftist ethnics that say "white people" when refering too that

the whole point is to NOT judge people based off shit they cannot control and essentialize features that they share commonly with other people THEY HAVE NOTHING in common with (expect race for example, or in some other cases, sexuality, or religion although the last one is a choice) because the avg person is low IQ

Scarcity creates crime.

Poor areas need investment into, water, infrastructure, food security, internet, police, and other services.

depends, you're right but there's so much factors that come in hand socially
teenage insecure boy at 12-14 seeing other teenagers his age with good clothes and flexing money
super mad can't get mom or dad to buy (if even he has a dad)
turn to "crime"
it gets serious and no turning back
there's also the same masculinity cope "you're not a man if you let someone do this to you or that"
gets made fun of
have to shoot
starts war and kills "people" as revenge for making fun
blabla

it's basically social pressure sometimes and we know how teenage developpement at this age is super important
this apply to ALL RACES that lived in shit environnement, almost happened to me when i was 13-14 but if it wasn't for super lucky circomstances in my life that made me be here i think i would be a retard lowlife thug too

 

[King Solomon]

Steven Hawking for example, proposed possibilities for the universe not having a beginning.

Steven Hawking is a well respected cosmologist. Cosmologists are a type of scientist.

Majority of sceintists believe in a beginning to the universe. There are the anomolies in everything obviously.

He's not even a human being. Bro you've been duped by a puppet just throwing out fallacious theories. Do you know the Edomites/Canaanites that know GOD exists basically use their secret societies over time to promote pseudoscience to influence the masses into believing their is no GOD? These Jevvs laugh at people that believe in their pseudoscience.

So, if one doesn't use discernment and conduct their own research, use your own brain and just takes what the mainstream as 100% factual then this is the inevitable belief system you come to conclude that you're from a random explosion that happened billions of years ago, and that created all these gases and shit that formulated planets n sheit that single celled organisms created fish then turd flinging monkeys then mighty morphing power rangers into humans and that you live in an infinite universe floating in space rotating, spinning at hundreds of thousands of mph through this infinite universe and nothing has any purpose or reason for existing at all. So your entire existence and the existence of everything is pointless and meaningless.

 

[lonelycurry]

 

[lonelycurry]

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