In your opinion who was the best Heavyweight boxer of all time (GOAT HW thread)

i think mike in his absolute PRIME, ngannou doesnt have a chance especially in a street fight that niggas footwork was so underrated, and his legs looked like fucking horse legs, that nigga was SO stupidly fast and i think if they both fought in their primes mike would knock ngannou out quick as a BITCH JFL.


in this video i aint gonna lie tyson looks way quicker then ngannou even now when hes a oldcel

but then u look at the sheer size and legnth ngannou has it would be very 50/50
 
would like u to name someone who could beat prime tyson (the tyson fury that beat deontay wilder) he's literally 6'9 and unbeatable, nigga gets up from EVERYTHING, and the person ur gonna name has probably already been manhandled by someone HALF his size.
Wilder isn't a good boxer, he just has tremendous power
Lennox abuses Fury
 
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when tyson fury fights ngannou you're gonna see how slow he is, and fury is gonna fuck his ass up (obviously) but you're gonna see what ngannou looks like, vs what prime tyson looked like, i'd say mike tyson has the best chance of beating Tyson Fury, but i'd still put my life savings and car on fury weightbullying and knocking out mike.
the favours would have fury winning this but if ngannou can just land any of his 50% power hits thats really all thats needed to have fury stumbling and fumbling for ngannou to clear him out.
 
cap, all the greats ur gonna name have been asswhooped by someone half tysons size JFL, nigga is too big and would obliterate that era, unbiased shit.
You don’t know shit about nothing lmao, even a prime Mike Tyson would literally kill Tyson Fury, Tyson Fury literally admitted it himself since he knows better, “muh 6’9!” Mike knocked out niggas taller and heavier than him for breakfast
 


in this video i aint gonna lie tyson looks way quicker then ngannou even now when hes a oldcel

but then u look at the sheer size and legnth ngannou has it would be very 50/50

prime i'd put my LIFE on mike knocking ngannou out brutally so sad we never got to see that shit bro, BRUTAL.,
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the favours would have fury winning this but if ngannou can just land any of his 50% power hits thats really all thats needed to have fury stumbling and fumbling for ngannou to clear him out.
JFL, if ur down to add me and genuinally bet money, i'd be happy, ngannou is gonna look sloppy and get exposed, halfway thru the match the commentators will call it a mismatch homie, tyson is the best hw of all time, size + power + speed + resilience.
 
You don’t know shit about nothing lmao, even a prime Mike Tyson would literally kill Tyson Fury, Tyson Fury literally admitted it himself since he knows better, “muh 6’9!” Mike knocked out niggas taller and heavier than him for breakfast

pretty sure u don't wanna go down that rabithole homie, if ur claiming prime mike > Fury you're claiming 5-10+ HWs are better then fury, (ones that badly bitched and manhandled tyson, and beat his ass out of his prime) Tyson Fury is 6'9, too strong he'd manhandle ANY hw
 
You don’t know shit about nothing lmao, even a prime Mike Tyson would literally kill Tyson Fury, Tyson Fury literally admitted it himself since he knows better, “muh 6’9!” Mike knocked out niggas taller and heavier than him for breakfast

definetly not undermining a prime mike tho, INSANELY talented, literally an anamoly and one of a kind, but tyson fury is just too stupidly big, and for his height he isnt a bum at ALL, he actually thrives at his height (i can send footage of tall ass unknown niggas tanking mikes hardest shots for rounds and rounds JFL, and they're definetly no tyson fury)
 
JFL, if ur down to add me and genuinally bet money, i'd be happy, ngannou is gonna look sloppy and get exposed, halfway thru the match the commentators will call it a mismatch homie, tyson is the best hw of all time, size + power + speed + resilience.
like i said fury has like a 70-80% chance of winning against ngannou but dont forget it doesnt mean ngannou is purely going to miss any of those mayhakers he loves doing. Also ngannou is improving a lot on his fundementals and technical skill so likely we will see his jabs and straights become more brutally knockout power.
 
Most UFC heavyweights could likely beat these HW boxers, Id say francis ngannou, jon jones or derrick lewis have the capability of ending a street fight with one single jab.
They'd only beat them in a street fight or in mma because they'd wrestle or kick them. In a boxing ring they'd get their head knocked off because boxers are just on completely different levels than MMA fighters when it comes to their fist
Ngannou has more power then mike tyson imo
He doesn't
but its rare to miss a jab when ur 6'5 with like a 7'2 reach (ngannou)
Ngannou doesn't even throw jabs and his jabs aren't particularly good. Tyson would avoid his jabs with ease because Ngannou cannot box
but then u look at the sheer size and legnth ngannou has it would be very 50/50
In a boxing ring Tyson would take Ngannou out in the first round. Ngannou would have no idea what to do against Tyson in a fight using only their fist.
 
They'd only beat them in a street fight or in mma because they'd wrestle or kick them. In a boxing ring they'd get their head knocked off because boxers are just on completely different levels than MMA fighters when it comes to their fist

He doesn't

Ngannou doesn't even throw jabs and his jabs aren't particularly good. Tyson would avoid his jabs with ease because Ngannou cannot box

In a boxing ring Tyson would take Ngannou out in the first round. Ngannou would have no idea what to do against Tyson in a fight using only their fist.
truth, size and skill matter, prime tyson would literally 1 round kill ngannou, but tyson fury on the other hand? uhhh...
 
like i said fury has like a 70-80% chance of winning against ngannou but dont forget it doesnt mean ngannou is purely going to miss any of those mayhakers he loves doing. Also ngannou is improving a lot on his fundementals and technical skill so likely we will see his jabs and straights become more brutally knockout power.
promise u bro u need to watch boxing more, he fought deontay wilder, deontay has more power then ngannou and 10x the skill JFL.
 
like i said fury has like a 70-80% chance of winning against ngannou but dont forget it doesnt mean ngannou is purely going to miss any of those mayhakers he loves doing. Also ngannou is improving a lot on his fundementals and technical skill so likely we will see his jabs and straights become more brutally knockout power.
Fury could forget 99% of everything he knows about boxing and he'd still have more skill than Ngannou. Ngannou is literally not going to be able to land on Fury
 
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pretty sure u don't wanna go down that rabithole homie, if ur claiming prime mike > Fury you're claiming 5-10+ HWs are better then fury, (ones that badly bitched and manhandled tyson, and beat his ass out of his prime) Tyson Fury is 6'9, too strong he'd manhandle ANY hw
Mike was already pretty washed up after his 1st loss with Buster Douglas and he himself admitted it, Evander Holyfield bitched that nigga and beat him fair and square until he had to bite his ear off, you keep claiming “muh 6’9 muh 6’9!” as if that means anything against these top ranked fighters
 
like i said fury has like a 70-80% chance of winning against ngannou but dont forget it doesnt mean ngannou is purely going to miss any of those mayhakers he loves doing. Also ngannou is improving a lot on his fundementals and technical skill so likely we will see his jabs and straights become more brutally knockout power.
im willing to literally bet 10,000$ if u bet 1000$ and keep ur promise, ik it's a 100% mismatch and a random ufc boxer isnt taking the record from a nigga who has beaten the BEST of the era, in BOXING JFL.
 
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They'd only beat them in a street fight or in mma because they'd wrestle or kick them. In a boxing ring they'd get their head knocked off because boxers are just on completely different levels than MMA fighters when it comes to their fist

He doesn't

Ngannou doesn't even throw jabs and his jabs aren't particularly good. Tyson would avoid his jabs with ease because Ngannou cannot box

In a boxing ring Tyson would take Ngannou out in the first round. Ngannou would have no idea what to do against Tyson in a fight using only their fist.
yeah fair enough fury was boxing since he was 8 if i remember correctly and ngannou is just a haymaker throwing machine now that i think of it from a regulated boxing perspective. However ngannou is destroying fury in a street fight lol gonna be like a 5 second ko by ngannou to fury in a street fight setting at a club or bar
 
Mike was already pretty washed up after his 1st loss with Buster Douglas and he himself admitted it, Evander Holyfield bitched that nigga and beat him fair and square until he had to bite his ear off, you keep claiming “muh 6’9 muh 6’9!” as if that means anything against these top ranked fighters
6'9, tyson fury would be leaning on and sending mike flying across the ring, brutal truthpill.
 
definetly not undermining a prime mike tho, INSANELY talented, literally an anamoly and one of a kind, but tyson fury is just too stupidly big, and for his height he isnt a bum at ALL, he actually thrives at his height (i can send footage of tall ass unknown niggas tanking mikes hardest shots for rounds and rounds JFL, and they're definetly no tyson fury)
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yeah fair enough fury was boxing since he was 8 if i remember correctly and ngannou is just a haymaker throwing machine now that i think of it from a regulated boxing perspective. However ngannou is destroying fury in a street fight lol gonna be like a 5 second ko by ngannou to fury in a street fight setting at a club or bar
yeah, but what's gonna happen in the boxing fight is ngannous gonna look sloppy n slow, and get beat the fuck up.
 
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im willing to literally bet 10,000$ if u bet 1000$ and keep ur promise, ik it's a 100% mismatch and a random ufc boxer isnt taking the record from a nigga who has beaten the BEST of the era, in BOXING JFL.
nah i know fury would win and id lose money so i dont wanna lose 1k on some haymaking machine losing to the most fundemental and muscle memory boxer in the world besides floyd.
 
truth, size and skill matter, prime tyson would literally 1 round kill ngannou, but tyson fury on the other hand? uhhh...
Fury would do the same to Ngannou. I don't even like him, but Fury is just on a completely different plane of existence in terms of skill, technique, ability to set up punches, and he has more power than Ngannou too (I don't think any MMA fighter has more power than boxers when they are in similar weight divisions)
 
ill have to find it but it was literally a unknown nigga with like 10 fights who was like 6'5? and literally tanked 5 rounds of mikes best shots, if he did that to tyson he'd get his ass brutally whooped JFL.
 
Fury would do the same to Ngannou. I don't even like him, but Fury is just on a completely different plane of existence in terms of skill, technique, ability to set up punches, and he has more power than Ngannou too (I don't think any MMA fighter has more power than boxers when they are in similar weight divisions)
finally a nigga with a brain who has logic, brutal truthpill, someone being as big fast and strong with a infinite gastank like tyson fury is fucking UNHEARD OF, in ANY era, he's a gem fosho
 
nah i know fury would win and id lose money so i dont wanna lose 1k on some haymaking machine losing to the most fundemental and muscle memory boxer in the world besides floyd.
yeah, floyds mastered the art beyond what ANYONE has ever, anything else is cope, shits unargueable, but for tysons size and how good he is and mastering the sweet science, he shouldnt exist, nigga exheeds at almost EVERYTHING.
 
ill have to find it but it was literally a unknown nigga with like 10 fights who was like 6'5? and literally tanked 5 rounds of mikes best shots, if he did that to tyson he'd get his ass brutally whooped JFL.
This guy I think you’re talking about

If you watch the fight you can clearly tell all those body punches from Tyson were weighing him out, once you destroy the body the head dies soon after, Tyson knew he couldn’t go straight for a knock out so he was just going for mostly body shots until Ribalta was withered away enough to the point where he couldn’t take it anymore
 
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yeah fair enough fury was boxing since he was 8 if i remember correctly and ngannou is just a haymaker throwing machine now that i think of it from a regulated boxing perspective. However ngannou is destroying fury in a street fight lol gonna be like a 5 second ko by ngannou to fury in a street fight setting at a club or bar
Ngannou can't ko Fury in a street fight unless he kicks him in the head or gnp. In a street fight if Ngannou decides to trade with Fury for some reason, he's waking up in the hospital. Trying to go bare knuckle fighting with a world class boxer is insanity :lul:
 
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This guy I think you’re talking about

If you watch the fight you can clearly tell all those body punches from Tyson were weighing him out, once you destroy the body the head dies soon after, Tyson knew he couldn’t go straight for a knock out so he was just going for mostly body shots until Ribalta was withered away enough to the point where he couldn’t take it anymore

nah, it was a tall white skinny guy tanking mikes best shots and still throwing back without flinching, clearly lost but still proves someone like tyson fury could get the better of him and weightbully tyson until hes tired and beat him to a pulp JFL.
 
Ngannou can't ko Fury in a street fight unless he kicks him in the head or gnp. In a street fight if Ngannou decides to trade with Fury for some reason, he's waking up in the hospital. Trying to go bare knuckle fighting with a world class boxer is insanity :lul:
truth, also another thing people dont know is tyson fury is like 20-0 or more in bare knuckle, that nigga is monstrous literally looks like a ogre and fights like one too, that nigga tyson fury was just BORN for fighting, body built for it n everythin JFL, he's SO good i literally cant imagine him losing, but everyone has their time and age when its their time to start losing, being at the top is temporary for everyone but tyson fury has had a legendary reign and he'll get his respect soon
 
yeah, floyds mastered the art beyond what ANYONE has ever, anything else is cope, shits unargueable, but for tysons size and how good he is and mastering the sweet science, he shouldnt exist, nigga exheeds at almost EVERYTHING.
he is a god amongst other mortals but he is immortal to man mind objects like this
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This guy I think you’re talking about

If you watch the fight you can clearly tell all those body punches from Tyson were weighing him out, once you destroy the body the head dies soon after, Tyson knew he couldn’t go straight for a knock out so he was just going for mostly body shots until Ribalta was withered away enough to the point where he couldn’t take it anymore

Tyson would fight Ngannou completely different than how he fought Ribalta because Ribalta has skill greater than Ngannou. Tyson can't be reckless against Ribalta because he knows the sport too.
Ngannou would have zero clue what to do with Tyson. He's never seen footwork like Mike's before, he would straight up be confused by what's happening to him 🤣
 
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truth, also another thing people dont know is tyson fury is like 20-0 or more in bare knuckle, that nigga is monstrous literally looks like a ogre and fights like one too, that nigga tyson fury was just BORN for fighting, body built for it n everythin JFL, he's SO good i literally cant imagine him losing, but everyone has their time and age when its their time to start losing, being at the top is temporary for everyone but tyson fury has had a legendary reign and he'll get his respect soon
he got the ogre genes meanwhile his brother is out here knocking out girls holes instead of guys heads
 
he got the ogre genes meanwhile his brother is out here knocking out girls holes instead of guys heads
JFL, tommy fumbles is definetly pretty good, proved it by manhandling a legit fighter like jake by just straight out bangin n walkin him down with no respect, definetly outshun by his goat brother tho JFL.
 
truth, also another thing people dont know is tyson fury is like 20-0 or more in bare knuckle, that nigga is monstrous literally looks like a ogre and fights like one too, that nigga tyson fury was just BORN for fighting, body built for it n everythin JFL, he's SO good i literally cant imagine him losing, but everyone has their time and age when its their time to start losing, being at the top is temporary for everyone but tyson fury has had a legendary reign and he'll get his respect soon
Lennox Lewis would beat Fury. Better boxer, atg HW jab, and has tremendous power too. He'd also set up his punches better than Wilder can, so he'll catch Fury more consistently and cleaner
 
Lennox Lewis would beat Fury. Better boxer, atg HW jab, and has tremendous power too. He'd also set up his punches better than Wilder can, so he'll catch Fury more consistently and cleaner
lennox has literally been ko'd out cold by midgets, i'd like to see him try to handle someone 6'9 with punches that arguably slump everyone, shit would be a mismatch, lennox is goated tho, but don't compare JFL.
 
could use that hypothetical on ANYONE homie, baseless asf JFL.
yes but its to go with my point of how he isnt a god compared to man made objects beside the other mortals on earth
 
I think it's a tie between Lennox and Fury. Holyfield was underrated asf too. @Gargantuan
 
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also i genuinally think that'd be a suicide mission with the entourage he walks around with, ur gonna get merked as FUCK
tbh you wont even need to use your gun because he has said on podcats how he was so close from ending his life.
 
yes but its to go with my point of how he isnt a god compared to man made objects beside the other mortals on earth
in the ring, without "guns" he's definetly god he's literally top 00.1% in hand to hand combat, and can CLEARLY bang with anyone of any era (and in my opinion, fuck anyone up)
 
I think it's a tie between Lennox and Fury. Holyfield was underrated asf too. @Gargantuan
fair, holyfield exposed alot of niggas monstrous chin too, also lennox was goated, but i think fury is #1 for sure, if we could have a simulated fight (exact replica of what would've happened) it would shock alot of boxing fans JFL. (both primes)
 
in the ring, without "guns" he's definetly god he's literally top 00.1% in hand to hand combat, and can CLEARLY bang with anyone of any era (and in my opinion, fuck anyone up)
tbh you wont even need to use your gun because he has said on podcats how he was so close from ending his life.
 
lennox has literally been ko'd out cold by midgets, i'd like to see him try to handle someone 6'9 with punches that arguably slump everyone, shit would be a mismatch, lennox is goated tho, but don't compare JFL.
Lennox has only been ko'd twice and they were both 6'2. Fury isn't even 6'9, he's 6'7.
You're also overrating Fury's power, he only has a 72% ko rate which isn't good for a HW. His KO's come against guys with glass jaws too. Fury doesn't have the power to ko someone with a good jaw like Lennox has. Lennox out-boxes him or he gets nasty and dirty and just tries to punk him which Lennox can do
 
tbh you wont even need to use your gun because he has said on podcats how he was so close from ending his life.
true, but people who overcome insane adversities like that end up even stronger people, that's why i think hes so good, he literally fears nothing he's fought harder fights in his head niggas limitless.
 
I think it's a tie between Lennox and Fury. Holyfield was underrated asf too. @Gargantuan
Fury has no claim to being the best HW ever
He hasn't beat a single ATG HW
 
Lennox has only been ko'd twice and they were both 6'2. Fury isn't even 6'9, he's 6'7.
You're also overrating Fury's power, he only has a 72% ko rate which isn't good for a HW. His KO's come against guys with glass jaws too. Fury doesn't have the power to ko someone with a good jaw like Lennox has. Lennox out-boxes him or he gets nasty and dirty and just tries to punk him which Lennox can do
uhh he is 6'9 homie, hes fought insanely strong people and remains undefeated, lennox has been hoed in a SINGLE round, he's good but calling him goat is disrespectful when someone who's fought arguably good opponents hasnt been beaten, and ur homie has had his jaw absolutely shattered, fury got up everytime, lennox didnt.
 
Lennox Lewis would beat Fury. Better boxer, atg HW jab, and has tremendous power too. He'd also set up his punches better than Wilder can, so he'll catch Fury more consistently and cleaner
I think Lennox will win in the hypothetical fight but it would be a tough fight with Fury’s size and IQ, but Fury has never fought anyone who is half the fighter Lewis was at his peak hard to say.
 
Fury has no claim to being the best HW ever
He hasn't beat a single ATG HW
god if someone 6'2 sent lennix to the shadow realm brutally, lights out, wouldnt like to know what 6'9 (better boxer, stronger, taller, unbreakable chin) would do to his ass at that time JFl.
 

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