Infraorbital Rim Implants any experiences?

[HighPerformer]

Guys, I am interested in getting an infraorbital rim implant this year, has anyone had this procedure or has knowledge about it's impact on attractiveness?

My main goal is to bump up my lower eyelids, turning a negative/neutral vector into a positive vector and getting rid of dark under eyes.

I attached a pic which kind of implants my surgeon uses and also a pic of me (and my failos )

 

[tom1000]

Dumbass u think anyone gives a shit about some extra under eye support

use your money else where

 

[tom1000]

price is like 10-15K for good surgeons they make a incision from inside mouth

 

[softman]

Canthoplasty would be more beneficial tbh
Also, why do you look like you were held at gunpoint in that last photo

 

[HighPerformer]

price is like 10-15K for good surgeons they make a incision from inside mouth

I don't care about the money, my main and only failo is my eye area

 

[HighPerformer]

Canthoplasty would be more beneficial tbh
Also, why do you look like you were held at gunpoint in that last photo

Do you mean to change the canthal tilt? I also thought about lower eyelid retraction, but the implants probably will do a good job bumping up the lower eyelids. Lol I sent that last pic to a chick who I smash and dashed

 

[softman]

Do you mean to change the canthal tilt? I also thought about lower eyelid retraction, but the implants probably will do a good job bumping up the lower eyelids. Lol I sent that last pic to a chick who I smash and dashed

Yes, if you're considering surgery, then altering your canthal tilt would be the best course of action, but you'd have to conduct proper research on who the best available surgeons are because you don't want to wind up looking uncanny

Under eye fat grafting could also help with your dark circles

 

[softman]

Lol I sent that last pic to a chick who I smash and dashed

I don't mean to impose, but if you already have a decent dating life then why do you want to get surgery lol, is it worth it to you?

 

[Deleted member 119045]

Dumbass u think anyone gives a shit about some extra under eye support

use your money else where

Bro you are a fckn retard

U reply to every single post, bit u serve no value

 

[HighPerformer]

Yes, if you're considering surgery, then altering your canthal tilt would be the best course of action, but you'd have to conduct proper research on who the best available surgeons are because you don't want to wind up looking uncanny

Under eye fat grafting could also help with your dark circles

Thank you for the advise. Unfortunately changing the canthal tilt often looks uncanny afterwards, so I would rather not push it too far with that. Fat grafting is very good tho, I am researching about it, maybe it can replace the need for implants

 

[HighPerformer]

I don't mean to impose, but if you already have a decent dating life then why do you want to get surgery lol, is it worth it to you?

I have a dating life yes. But I want more. I used to be way uglier when I was young, looksmaxxing and softmaxxing drastically improved my SMV. The difference in treatment from women and men is like a drug, it is fucking amazing. I have height, jawline, good facial proportions, the only thing holding me back are my eyes. So giving them an improvement with the best Risk/Reward surgery is my goal. I don't want to be a PSL autist who goes too far and ruins his own harmony, just a little boost. Maybe it's just my high ambition mindset, but fuck man, dark eye circles and negative orbital vector sucks ass

 

[HighPerformer]

bump

 

[vtribal]

why not get a fat graft instead?

 

[HighPerformer]

why not get a fat graft instead?

My thoughts were that infraorbital rim implants would have more impact on orbital vector projection (therefore mimicking bone projection) and raising the lower eyelid

 

[aestheticmax]

I think you should make first a bimax and rhinoplasty.

 

[Marelago]

Canthoplasty would be more beneficial tbh
Also, why do you look like you were held at gunpoint in that last photo

Nono, canthoplasty will not last which such a negative orbital vector like OP does. Infra orbital rim implant proper set can do a great job on him. Maybe also taking in consideration a conservative performed orbital decompression (he have slightly protruding eyes).

 

[HighPerformer]

Nono, canthoplasty will not last which such a negative orbital vector like OP does. Infra orbital rim implant proper set can do a great job on him. Maybe also taking in consideration a conservative performed orbital decompression (he have slightly protruding eyes).

Thank you for giving your take on this. I will most likely get the infraorbital implants and also Ptosis Surgery on my left eye which is a bit droopy. I don't really have protruded eyes to be a potential patient for orbital decompression surgery, it's also waaay too invasive for my taste, especially after known cases of patients getting botched like Frank Tufano who now has to live with cross eyes and double vision for the rest of his life. Canthoplasty is more safe (soft tissue), the big problem with it is that it often produces uncanny and unnatural looking results.

 

[Marelago]

Thank you for giving your take on this. I will most likely get the infraorbital implants and also Ptosis Surgery on my left eye which is a bit droopy. I don't really have protruded eyes to be a potential patient for orbital decompression surgery, it's also waaay too invasive for my taste, especially after known cases of patients getting botched like Frank Tufano who now has to live with cross eyes and double vision for the rest of his life. Canthoplasty is more safe (soft tissue), the big problem with it is that it often produces uncanny and unnatural looking results.

Of course you would be a candidate for orbital decompression. Your lower eyelids are so sloppy because of your mild protruding eyes. OD will give you better positive orbital vector than infra orbital rim implants, 'cause your eyeballs protrude also to your upper eyelids. If you would go for the infra orbitals you would also need supra orbitals to give you deep set eyes.OD will look more natural and no other procedures in your case needed. Frank had bad luck he wanted too much decompression we speak about 8mm and above, you need only 3-4 mm. BTW Frank looks much better now. His eyes are almost straight no longer cross eyed.

 

[HighPerformer]

Of course you would be a candidate for orbital decompression. Your lower eyelids are so sloppy because of your mild protruding eyes. OD will give you better positive orbital vector than infra orbital rim implants, 'cause your eyeballs protrude also to your upper eyelids. If you would go for the infra orbitals you would also need supra orbitals to give you deep set eyes.OD will look more natural and no other procedures in your case needed. Frank had bad luck he wanted too much decompression we speak about 8mm and above, you need only 3-4 mm. BTW Frank looks much better now. His eyes are almost straight no longer cross eyed.

Maybe my eyes are protruding a tiny bit, but nowhere near to an extand where the risk/reward ratio of orbital decompression surgery would be justified. I wouldn't risk vision problems or going blind for that. But I might think about supraorbital implants as they would harmonize the infraorbital implants. Alternative would be fillers into the supraorbital area. But one step at a time. When I get the infraorbital rim implants I will post my experience and results in detail, because imo there is very little information about them on looksmax.org despite their massive impact on attractiveness (especially if the lower eye area is the only flaw).

And about Frank... I would agree he technically looks a bit better than before, BUT it doesn't look natural and that's the whole point. When I compared his before and after, it appears that his lower eye area and orbital vector have improves drastically by his infraorbital rim implants. But the lower eyelid retraction and orbital decompression made his eyes look uncanny.

 

[HighPerformer]

Bump

 

[Snicket]

Guys, I am interested in getting an infraorbital rim implant this year, has anyone had this procedure or has knowledge about it's impact on attractiveness?

My main goal is to bump up my lower eyelids, turning a negative/neutral vector into a positive vector and getting rid of dark under eyes.

I attached a pic which kind of implants my surgeon uses and also a pic of me (and my failos )

If you have significant infraorbital rim retrusion then it can definitely make a difference. The best outcomes I’ve seen usually combine it with far grafts as well. Soft tissue is very important in the under eye area - not just bone.

 

[HighPerformer]

If you have significant infraorbital rim retrusion then it can definitely make a difference. The best outcomes I’ve seen usually combine it with far grafts as well. Soft tissue is very important in the under eye area - not just bone.

Yea from what I have read and seen fat grafting provides amazing results. Might be best to use infraorbital implants first and then fill out with fat grafts if required.

 

[HighPerformer]

Bump

 

[zemult]

Maybe my eyes are protruding a tiny bit, but nowhere near to an extand where the risk/reward ratio of orbital decompression surgery would be justified. I wouldn't risk vision problems or going blind for that. But I might think about supraorbital implants as they would harmonize the infraorbital implants. Alternative would be fillers into the supraorbital area. But one step at a time. When I get the infraorbital rim implants I will post my experience and results in detail, because imo there is very little information about them on looksmax.org despite their massive impact on attractiveness (especially if the lower eye area is the only flaw).

And about Frank... I would agree he technically looks a bit better than before, BUT it doesn't look natural and that's the whole point. When I compared his before and after, it appears that his lower eye area and orbital vector have improves drastically by his infraorbital rim implants. But the lower eyelid retraction and orbital decompression made his eyes look uncanny.

Frank doesn't look better than before. The botched serial-killer eyes completely outweigh any PSL increase.

 

[HighPerformer]

Frank doesn't look better than before. The botched serial-killer eyes completely outweigh any PSL increase.

Agreed, sad stuff. He went for it all and got burned. Only his lower eye area looks alot better.

 

[HighPerformer]

I did more research on implants and it seems like Saddled Infraorbital-Malar Implants completely mogg normal infraorbital implants, because they don't cause gaps in the lower eye area and blend into the sides, also managing zygos. The best Doc I could find in Europe is Dr. Pagnoni, who can customize them and he seems like a really nice guy who knows looksmaxxing stuff. I will also combine them with supraorbital implants. Ptosis surgery will be done seperately after the implants. Those 3 procedures will cost tons of money, but I'm ok with that.

Below are some designs that I really like. You can see how they extend into the eye socket region, which provides the kind of support that eyecels need.

 

[HighPerformer]

Reasons I will not use non-saddled infraorbital implants like shown in the original post are the following:

- They don't make zygos look better
- They cause gaps, because they don't extend into the eye socket
- They don't support the orbital sides like the other 3 examples above

The guy shown below (org user) used non-saddled infraorbital implants and as you can see he clearly needed implants, but he got the wrong ones. It didn't cover the orbital vector and he is left with lots of gaps.

Here is the link to his post: https://looksmax.org/threads/some-n...harmony-and-the-necessity-of-a-saddle.776250/

 

[FrenchareMedCucks]

usually you need both implants and fat grafts

saddled infras of course

both surgeries would cost you hell of money like 25-30k

 

[HighPerformer]

usually you need both implants and fat grafts

saddled infras of course

both surgeries would cost you hell of money like 25-30k

That is fucking crazy amounts of money, but I don't care. I will do what it takes. I am still very curious about how Zeta did it with his eye area and if he used any implants. Also, how the fuck did he manage to make his eyebrows appear lower set? I would guess it's because of forward projection of supraobrital bones.

 

[HighPerformer]

Bump

 

[Dathomirian Zabrak]

I did more research on implants and it seems like Saddled Infraorbital-Malar Implants completely mogg normal infraorbital implants, because they don't cause gaps in the lower eye area and blend into the sides, also managing zygos. The best Doc I could find in Europe is Dr. Pagnoni, who can customize them and he seems like a really nice guy who knows looksmaxxing stuff. I will also combine them with supraorbital implants. Ptosis surgery will be done seperately after the implants. Those 3 procedures will cost tons of money, but I'm ok with that.

Below are some designs that I really like. You can see how they extend into the eye socket region, which provides the kind of support that eyecels need.

If i was in your situation i dont get saddled its risky. Even i couldnt get normal infraorbital implants after saw frank tufanos botched by taban

 

[HighPerformer]

If i was in your situation i dont get saddled its risky. Even i couldnt get normal infraorbital implants after saw frank tufanos botched by taban

They aren't without their risks yes. Frank got fucked up because of Orbital Decompression and Lower Eyelid Retraction not from the implants. He only said one implant was placed a little higher and he has a bit of nerve damage. But visually they did him good.