IQ and the law of diminishing returns...

[Deleted member 11126]

IQ is a trait often worshiped online and for good reason it directly correlates with life outcomes to an extent. These are the average IQ's
for certain groups in the USA

Mean Homeless: 80-83 IQ points

Average Welfare Recipient: 90-92 IQ points

Median American: 97-100 IQ points

Average Self Made Millionaire: 117-118 IQ points

Average Self Made Billionaire: 132-133 IQ points


The data we see here shows a clear and obvious pattern that IQ is a good trait in all metrics. But what is weird is that the jump between the categories slows down rapidly. 133 IQ points is very smart compared to average but if we look at how many billionaires there are in a place like the USA its in the thousands vs the number of people with 130 IQ+ is in the millions.

Wouldn't it make more sense for this trait to be 150 IQ or something astronomically small to reflect how rare billionaires are... Traits like IQ help a lot especially when you are within a SD or average. Every IQ point above 100 relates to something like an extra 5 grand a year. But these traits have their limits. IQ is also often times the bare minimum requirement. If you wanted to be a good basketball player chances are you would need to be 6'2+ but this trait is only the bare minimum to compete everyone you play against on the high levels is also 6'2+. And even if you were insanely tall there is a point where height would begin to hurt you because your joints would not be able to support you enough to play.

Conclusion: Most traits like IQ height or even muscle mass have points of diminishing returns. If you are below average or really close to average these traits will hold you back. The ideal is to be 1 or 2 Standard deviations above the norm. But when you get too far out of boundaries these traits don't exponentially help you the same way. It is always better to be above average just not too an extreme extent in any one trait. Also this was made to say if your 10-15 points above the norm which is the average college student's IQ is not the reason you fail.

The incredible correlation between IQ & income

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[thecel]

Funny that the average IQ of slayers is Mean Homeless and the average IQ of incels is Average Self Made Billionaire.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Funny that the average IQ of slayers is Mean Homeless and the average IQ of incels is Average Self Made Billionaire.

Most slayers are chad college kids or athletes. They aren't stupid or smart just average guys

 

[GetShrekt]

Fake stats

 

[GetShrekt]

If this was true I would be a self made trillionaire

 

[Deleted member 11126]

If this was true I would be a self made trillionaire

You didn't really understand the point then. The point of this was to say IQ matters but that it has diminishing returns.

 

[Growth Plate]

the average IQ of incels is Average Self Made Billionaire.

I know you're joking but I find it funny how many copers on this forum unironically believe this.

Muh I just discovered looks matter!!!

 

[thecel]

I know you're joking but I find it funny how many copers on this forum unironically believe this.

Muh I just discovered looks matter!!!

I exaggerated, but I believe incels in general have above-average IQs and incel forums’ members have even higher IQs.

 

[mortis]

my iq is 116 and im not a millionaire, its like top 30% and just above average nothing special
you need top 1% iq to achieve that and that would be 140+

 

[Deleted member 11126]

I exaggerated, but I believe incels in general have above-average IQs and incel-forum-members have even higher IQs.

It really doesn't mean anything if you don't use it properly. You could be 175 IQ but go insane in a cabin Like Ted Kaczynski.

Also if your a little smarter then average but autistic and ugly it probably isn't going to matter much.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

my iq is 116 and im not a millionaire, its like top 30% and just above average nothing special
you need top 1% iq to achieve that and that would be 140+

Being a millionaire today is pretty easy if you just saved your money by the time you were 35.

Although the stats I think were from the early 2000's and 90's back then being a millionaire meant you were rich or starting to become rich. Nowadays any boomer with a house and a 401K is a millionaire by default because of inflation.

 

[GetShrekt]

I know you're joking but I find it funny how many copers on this forum unironically believe this.

Muh I just discovered looks matter!!!

It sounds outlandish but just read Facebook, or other normie media and it becomes apparent. There’s still a lot of retards that post here though.

 

[GetShrekt]

You didn't really understand the point then. The point of this was to say IQ matters but that it has diminishing returns.

I Dn rd tbh

 

[Growth Plate]

I exaggerated, but I believe that incels in general have above-average IQs.

You mean self-proclaimed incels on internet forums, because as you know, most men irl are incels in denial.
Yeah, sure, honestly, in spite of all the goofy greycels clouding my judgement, I can see this forum's avg IQ maybe being slightly above average. At least 100. Nothing more than that. You don't need an above average IQ to gain knowledge regarding the reality of this world. All you need is the experiences and not being a sensitive low t cuck to accept it. The amount of dumb questions and same constant repetitive debates regarding the same PSL shit over and over again just proves that this forum isn't that high iq bro

 

[mortis]

Being a millionaire today is pretty easy if you just saved your money by the time you were 35.

Although the stats I think were from the early 2000's and 90's back then being a millionaire meant you were rich or starting to become rich. Nowadays any boomer with a house and a 401K is a millionaire by default because of inflation.

btw i live in a country when the average income is 200$ a month

 

[Deleted member 11126]

btw i live in a country when the average income is 200$ a month

Yeah these numbers all come from the USA...

 

[Deleted member 11126]

You mean self-proclaimed incels on internet forums, because as you know, most men irl are incels in denial.
Yeah, sure, honestly, in spite of all the goofy greycels clouding my judgement, I can see this forum's avg IQ maybe being slightly above average. At least 100. Nothing more than that. You don't need an above average IQ to gain knowledge regarding the reality of this world. All you need is the experiences and not being a sensitive low t cuck to accept it. The amount of dumb questions and same constant repetitive debates regarding the same PSL shit over and over again just proves that this forum isn't that high iq bro

Yeah I could see it being a few points above average. It feels like incel forums attract smart people but also the biggest retards too. I think its very varied.

The internet used to have a much higher IQ but now with phones anyone can just go on these types of sites. 110 would be impressive anything higher I would seriously doubt it.

 

[thecel]

You mean self-proclaimed incels on internet forums, because as you know, most men irl are incels in denial.

I mean involuntary celibates in general, including those who aren’t aware of their incel status.

Self-proclaimed incels on Internet forums have even higher IQs.

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Yeah, sure, honestly, in spite of all the goofy greycels clouding my judgement, I can see this forum's avg IQ maybe being slightly above average. At least 100. Nothing more than that. You don't need an above average IQ to gain knowledge regarding the reality of this world. All you need is the experiences and not being a sensitive low t cuck to accept it. The amount of dumb questions and same constant repetitive debates regarding the same PSL shit over and over again just proves that this forum isn't that high iq bro

They’re high IQ for debating PSL shit in the 1st place.

While average-IQ people are totally capable of comprehending blackpill knowledge, they’re unlikely to be interested in discussing topics of that nature.

It’s the high-IQ spergacious aspies who engage in PSL argumentation.

 

[Hipcel]

Average Self Made Millionaire: 117-118 IQ points

So you're telling me that I could become a self made multimillionaire in America. Oh yeah luck and connections I forgot.

 

[thecel]

Being a millionaire today is pretty easy if you just saved your money by the time you were 35.

Although the stats I think were from the early 2000's and 90's back then being a millionaire meant you were rich or starting to become rich. Nowadays any boomer with a house and a 401K is a millionaire by default because of inflation.

moneymaxing motivation

 

[Hipcel]

I exaggerated, but I believe incels in general have above-average IQs and incel forums’ members have even higher IQs.

I've seen your posts and you probably have above average IQ, but that doesn't mean much. I can name a gazillion others like @Thompsonz I blocked a month ago and others that have room temperature IQ.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

moneymaxing motivation

I think if inflation keeps going the way it is we will all be millionaires by the end of 2030

 

[Deleted member 11126]

So you're telling me that I could become a self made multimillionaire in America. Oh yeah luck and connections I forgot.

This doesn't mean everyone with 118 IQ will automatically become a millionaire it just means you could do it.

Its sort of like being in the race at all. People who are dumb enough just won't have a chance beyond seriously lucking into it.

 

[thecel]

I've seen your posts and you probably have above average IQ, but that doesn't mean much. I can name a gazillion others like @Thompsonz I blocked a month ago and others that have room temperature IQ.

Room temp IQs mog hard because they correlate with high T.

Bad temper is the ultimate low IQ trait

I'm convinced that emotionalism is an inherently low IQ trait. I've never met anybody irl that has bad temperament (easily triggered, prone to outbursts, etc) that hasn't been a raging idiot in other areas. Low IQ correlates with violence which itself correlates with bad temperament. Tbh this...

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Although bad temper is a low IQ trait, it’s a good trait because high T mogs high IQ. It’s better to be high T and low IQ than to be low T and high IQ.

Bad tempers are ludicrously high T. Picture high-T Giga Tyrone in your mind. What do you see? A huge, strong man who ends the life of anyone who dares to disrespect him!

Its a high T trait

Low IQ is a high T trait.

 

[Hipcel]

This doesn't mean everyone with 118 IQ will automatically become a millionaire it just means you could do it.

Its sort of like being in the race at all. People who are dumb enough just won't have a chance beyond seriously lucking into it.

It just means you could do it with nepotism privileges, luck, connections as I mentioned. Oh and other kinds of competences and right guidance/education.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

It just means you could do it with nepotism, luck, connections and right guidance as mentioned.

Well to be fair self made is tricky. They probably calculated it only by you earning the money yourself besides inheritance. But if your dad gets you a good job through a friend its still technically you who made the money.

Also no one is self made not even people who were born with no connections. Making friends or having good relations with important people is crucial. Knowing the right people is very important.

People who become wealthy in any area don't do the work themselves they specialize in a few things and then outsource work to people they know. A guy who gets good at fixing up houses has an entire team he isn't out there doing it all himself he knows the laborers he knows the realestate agents ect...

 

[stevielake]

This doesn't mean everyone with 118 IQ will automatically become a millionaire it just means you could do it.

Its sort of like being in the race at all. People who are dumb enough just won't have a chance beyond seriously lucking into it.

Meanwhile, Kim Kardashian's IQ is in the 80's , out earning people who actually contribute to society. Clown world.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Meanwhile, Kim Kardashian's IQ is in the 80's , out earning people who actually contribute to society. Clown world.

No they are actually pretty smart. If you don't think this is an act then you are dumber then them. They are amazing at getting attention through drama.

Same with people like Jake and Logan Paul before youtube they were in engineering majors. Sure they aren't geniuses but this is an act for attention they didn't luck into this

 

[Growth Plate]

I mean involuntary celibates in general, including those who aren’t aware of their incel status.

They're not bright if they lack self awareness, unless they don't care about sex

The rest of your post is just a description of Aspergers. Average - above average IQ's with obsessive interest in specific topics.

Adam Lanza had diagnosed Aspergers but his IQ was measured to be only in the average range. Among other things, based on his vocabulary, one would assume he had at least 110IQ (his actions were retarded though obviously). He was remembered by many that knew him personally as "the smart kid" meanwhile he was just another average IQ aspie

Average IQ people are usually neurotypical (I mean actually neurotypical. not what this forum calls NT) and less likely to be so obsessed about a topic to argue about it all day.

People that are attracted to rotting on forums like these lean further to having Aspergers than being neurotypical

Asperger syndrome is a condition on the autism spectrum, with generally higher functioning.
People with this condition may be socially awkward and have an all-absorbing interest in specific topics.

 

[thecel]

Funny that the average IQ of slayers is Mean Homeless and the average IQ of incels is Average Self Made Billionaire.

(re)visit this legendary thread :

Would You Rather Be a MENTALLY RETARDED Turbochad or a GENIUS Incel?

Poll choices: A) Choice A · Chad Dominus: You are a 7-foot-tall (2.1336 m) Spiggachad. Every bone in your skull is ideally forward-grown. Your bideltoid breadth is 28 inches (71.12 cm). Your penis is 12 inches (30.48 cm) erect. Your IQ is 50. You drop out of high school because you lack...

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[Albeacho]

btw i live in a country when the average income is 200$ a month

we have billions in rial though, look at it this way

 

[Deleted member 11126]

(re)visit this legendary thread :

Would You Rather Be a MENTALLY RETARDED Turbochad or a GENIUS Incel?

Poll choices: A) Choice A · Chad Dominus: You are a 7-foot-tall (2.1336 m) Spiggachad. Every bone in your skull is ideally forward-grown. Your bideltoid breadth is 28 inches (71.12 cm). Your penis is 12 inches (30.48 cm) erect. Your IQ is 50. You drop out of high school because you lack...

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Both of these would suck tbh. Like do you mean actually mentally retarded or just a dumb jock?

Being 70 IQ would be terrible. Even if you are good looking you would not be able to work a retail job at that level. You would most likely end up in a group home or your parents would take care of you everyday and you would just watch TV or do repetitive things all day.

The average 6 year old is about 70 IQ so imagine you as a 6 year old


Idk both of these would make me rope.

 

[mortis]

we have billions in rial though, look at it this way

didn't you migrate to usa?

 

[Hipcel]

The rest of your post is just a description of Aspergers. Average - above average IQ's with obsessive interest in specific topics.

TIL I might have Aspergers.

Doesn't the rich emerald mine kid who wanted to become a mechanical/automotive & aerospace engineer but instead started off as a coder for the money has Aspergers?

"I like ca ca cars and ro ro rockets. Tesla will ha have 1 mi million robo bo botaxis by 2020".

@thecel

 

[Albeacho]

didn't you migrate to usa?

im in my vatan iran rn, Iran > shitty western countries. Im gonna find a virgin wife here.

 

[Deleted member 15089]

I know there are probably better studies online, but are there any threads or and user knowledge on the effect that long term screen usage/abuse has on intelligence and overall cognitive function.?I do believe that the overuse of technology and mindlessly staring at screens all day must have some long term consequences. A couple years ago I was psych evaled at full scale 121 (bright but not gifted) but I have noticed that screen abuse has genuinely rotted my brain, even feels by like 10-15 points sometimes

 

[TITUS]

I know there are probably better studies online, but are there any threads or and user knowledge on the effect that long term screen usage/abuse has on intelligence and overall cognitive function.?I do believe that the overuse of technology and mindlessly staring at screens all day must have some long term consequences. A couple years ago I was psych evaled at full scale 121 (bright but not gifted) but I have noticed that screen abuse has genuinely rotted my brain, even feels by like 10-15 points sometimes

interesting idea, i know screen light messes with your eyes. about iq, it could probably be due to several factors, loss of attention span due to the nature of online content and whatnot, worse health in general due to sitting many hours per day in front of a computer, that mines your stamina and hence your ability to score in tests, and so on.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

I know there are probably better studies online, but are there any threads or and user knowledge on the effect that long term screen usage/abuse has on intelligence and overall cognitive function.?I do believe that the overuse of technology and mindlessly staring at screens all day must have some long term consequences. A couple years ago I was psych evaled at full scale 121 (bright but not gifted) but I have noticed that screen abuse has genuinely rotted my brain, even feels by like 10-15 points sometimes

I think it probably does in very young kids. A young kid on screen can be easily influenced. But I don't think it lowers IQ in people already past 16 unless there is some unknown effect like radiation.

What over stimulation from screens does do for sure is fuck up your dopamine system. This won't make you dumber per say but it will make you demotivated and have the attention span of a goldfish. Also over stimulation in sexual ways can lead to some brain damage so its possible if you mean prolonged porn watching (like an hour+ a day) could lead to brain damage.

But at least in people older then 16 I don't know how much of this is long term. If you just stopped overstimulating yourself you might return mostly to normal in 6 months.

 

[Deleted member 15089]

I think it probably does in very young kids. A young kid on screen can be easily influenced. But I don't think it lowers IQ in people already past 16 unless there is some unknown effect like radiation.

What over stimulation from screens does do for sure is fuck up your dopamine system. This won't make you dumber per say but it will make you demotivated and have the attention span of a goldfish. Also over stimulation in sexual ways can lead to some brain damage so its possible if you mean prolonged porn watching (like an hour+ a day) could lead to brain damage.

But at least in people older then 16 I don't know how much of this is long term. If you just stopped overstimulating yourself you might return mostly to normal in 6 months.

Welp, I’m fucked

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Welp, I’m fucked

wdym lol

 

[Deleted member 15089]

wdym lol

JFL for admitting this but I have if Too if I wanna change, it’s like I do everything in my possible power to have low T
<3 hours of sleep a night for years
12+ hours of closeup screen per day
Many hours on looksmax
No gym
Hours of porn and fap
Weird diet (like 1-2 meals at random times)
Depressed
And many more I don’t need to list
All this during my puberty as well

 

[Deleted member 11126]

JFL for admitting this but I have if Too if I wanna change, it’s like I do everything in my possible power to have low T
<3 hours of sleep a night for years
12+ hours of closeup screen per day
Many hours on looksmax
No gym
Hours of porn and fap
Weird diet (like 1-2 meals at random times)
Depressed
And many more I don’t need to list
All this during my puberty as well

3 hours of sleep a night can unironically reduce your IQ.

If you use the internet you should be using it to learn things. You are just using it for easy dopamine which is not good. You probably aren't using this site to looksmax if you don't put into practice what you read on here an hour a day it would be better for your mental health to never touch this site again.

If you actually did this when you were younger it is possible you stunted yourself. Why do you only sleep 3 hours a day I'm addicted to my phone sometimes but I still try to sleep most days.

I think the sleep part is worse then your internet addiction if thats actually true you need to get a doctor to get to the bottom of this.
Here are some things that have helped me (Binaural beats, melatoinin, exercise at least once a day and before you sleep go on a walk when I'm seriously stressed sometimes I need to night walk or run for 2 hours before I tire myself out.) good luck man

 

[Rt-Rust1]

incel forums attract smart people but also the biggest retards too. I think its very varied.

Lol this is so on ooint to me