Is Germanic athleticism a myth?

[Deleted member 22099]

The stereotype of ancient peoples from Germany and Scandinavia is that they were strong and powerful, think of Vikings for example.

Quote from Roman historian Tacitus about the Germans:

I saw another quote from an ancient Arabian Historian that went something like "their physiques are some of the most powerful I have seen in my travels" but I couldn't find it.

This idea is further perpetuated by Strongman almost all of the top competitors are from Northern Europe.

But at the same time, in my personal experience Northern Europeans are really skinny. Average male is a tall lanklet.

Perhaps they were only stronger than other peoples in ancient times because they had a higher protein intake and had harsher lives.

Thoughts?
@cillianmurphycel @justinzayn @Arborist @chinksupremacy @Prettyboy

 

[HarrierDuBois]

DNRD but most strongmen are northern european for a reason.

 

[Deleted member 22099]

DNRD but most strongmen are northern european for a reason.

Strongman is most popular in Northern Europe though.
I saw a video where Icelandic strongmen trained with American football players and they said that if the footballers did strongman they would do very well.

 

[Deleted member 22627]

The stereotype of ancient peoples from Germany and Scandinavia is that they were strong and powerful, think of Vikings for example.

Quote from Roman historian Tacitus about the Germans:
View attachment 2104905

I saw another quote from an ancient Arabian Historian that went something like "their physiques are some of the most powerful I have seen in my travels" but I couldn't find it.

This idea is further perpetuated by Strongman almost all of the top competitors are from Northern Europe.

But at the same time, in my personal experience Northern Europeans are really skinny. Average male is a tall lanklet.

Perhaps they were only stronger than other peoples in ancient times because they had a higher protein intake and had harsher lives.

Thoughts?
@cillianmurphycel @justinzayn @Arborist @chinksupremacy @Prettyboy

It was the arab Ahmad ibn Fadlan who when encountering the Varangians also known as the Rus. said: They are the filthiest of God's creatures. They have no modesty in defecation and urination.... they are like wild asses." but he also wrote about them "I have never seen more perfect physical specimens, tall as date palms, blond and ruddy...."

The Rus Vikings were named after the Swedish province they came from Roslagen hence 'Rus' . It's where Russia eventually got it's name after.

 

[Deleted member 22627]

Strongman is most popular in Northern Europe though.
I saw a video where Icelandic strongmen trained with American football players and they said that if the footballers did strongman they would do very well.

For sure they would. They are basically selected again and again from middle school all the way to the NFL. All prime physical moggers.

 

[Orc]

the inhabitants of my part of the world were described as 'tall, big-boned and light-haired' in ancient times.

but all strongmen are tall, you need height to be able to pack on the necessary size.

 

[justinzayn]

the inhabitants of my part of the world were described as 'tall, big-boned and light-haired' in ancient times.

but all strongmen are tall, you need height to be able to pack on the necessary size.

For sure they would. They are basically selected again and again from middle school all the way to the NFL. All prime physical moggers.

Strong men and bodybuilders are different
Strong men are fat ass endomorph stocky bloated ogree
And strong men are jacked mesomorphs
With v taper body

German with cro magnid pheno are probably considered the strongest

 

[Prettyboy]

Scandinavians are the strongest in terms of absolute strength as they are the biggest, just like how Bergmann's rule states. Plus they have lot of cro magnon admixture

 

[Deleted member 22099]

Scandinavians are the strongest in terms of absolute strength as they are the biggest, just like Bergmann's rule states

Bears are an exception. Bigger insects, felines, reptiles and most animals are found in tropical climates.

 

[Prettyboy]

Bears are an exception. Bigger insects, felines, reptiles and most animals are found in tropical climates.

No, Bergmann's rule is norm, most animals get bigger the further away they from the Equator. Bears, deers, whales, penguins, foxes, rabbits etc.

It's controversial for normies but it also applies to humans. The smallest people on Earth are the Congolese pygmies at the Equator, Arabs are taller than them, Meds are taller than Arabs and Nordics are the largest. Just like how Bergmann's rule predicts

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

No, Bergmann's rule is norm, most animals get bigger the further away they from the Equator. Bears, deers, whales, penguins, foxes, rabbits etc.

It's controversial for normies but it also applies to humans. The smallest people on Earth are the Congolese pygmies at the Equator, Arabs are taller than them, Meds are taller than Arabs and Nordics are the largest, just like Bergmann's rule predicts

Borealization is process of evolving to cold climate and borealization means shortening of limbs.
People who are trully cold adapted are eskimos and similar, not Scandinavians, most of Scandinavia isn't that cold at all. Tallest people in the world are Dinka tribe in Sudan.
About OP, yes it is the case. Nerdic woman are built like tanks and men like lanket cucks.
Stereotypical Chad as portrayed on this sites is of German and to lesser degree Anglo origin, Scandinavians look totally different, especially facially.

 

[Deleted member 22099]

No, Bergmann's rule is norm, most animals get bigger the further away they from the Equator. Bears, deers, whales, penguins, foxes, rabbits etc.

But there are so many animals who are the opposite.

It's controversial for normies but it also applies to humans. The smallest people on Earth are the Congolese pygmies at the Equator, Arabs are taller than them, Meds are taller than Arabs and Nordics are the largest. Just like how Bergmann's rule predicts

True, but there are still outliers like Dinkas and Senegalids.
And does that apply to muscle mass as well?

 

[Deleted member 22627]

Borealization is process of evolving to cold climate and borealization means shortening of limbs.
People who are trully cold adapted are eskimos and similar, not Scandinavians, most of Scandinavia isn't that cold at all. Talles people are Dinka tribe in Sudan.
About OP, yes it is the case. Nerdic woman are built like tanks and men like lanket cucks.
Stereotypical Chad as portrayed on this sites is of German and to lesser degree Anglo origin, Scandinavians look totally different, especially facially.

Don't listen to this shitskin coper. He is always racist against scandies. JFL You'd get utterly mogged to death in the Nordic countries. You are so small and tiny lol.

 

[Deleted member 14693]

Bigger insects, felines, reptiles and most animals are found in tropical climates.

Humans are mammals and this rule applies to most mammals. Can't compare mammal humans to insects

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

Don't listen to this shitskin coper. He is always racist against scandies. JFL You'd get utterly mogged to death in the Nordic countries. You are so small and tiny lol.

Scandis are cucks. Saying that dosen't make me racist, and I am not a shitskin. Shitskins are busting through your oneitis's nerdic pussy as we speak, so much about "nerdic racial superiority".

 

[Deleted member 22627]

Scandis are cucks. Saying that dosen't make me racist, and I am not a shitskin. Shitskins are busting through your oneitis's nerdic pussy as we speak, so much about "nerdic racial superiority".

You would get utterly mogged and you KNOW IT. They are taller, better looking, more robust and stronger than you. JFL you are utterly subhuman who are clearly VERY jealous of your superiors.
lmao who is this shitskin faggot trying to fool?

 

[RetardSubhuman]

yes all cumskins are weak

 

[Prettyboy]

But there are so many animals who are the opposite.

In the case of mammals it applies and its all that matters for us humans. Insects and other simpler lifeforms doesnt matter in this context tbh

True, but there are still outliers like Dinkas and Senegalids.
And does that apply to muscle mass as well?

The Dinkas are an isolated group of people who are tall because of cultural reasons

A reply quoted from reddit:

" I visited South Sudan last year and have a lot of contact with Dinka people. You are ignoring a couple of factors in your evaluation. First is direct or participant observation. Come and see / experience for yourself! Second is an understanding of marriage practices and the role that height plays in mate selection. Polygamy is common and the males who have many offspring are comparatively wealthy leaders who are usually tall. Add to that is the preference for tall women who attract a higher dowry, and the woman will usually be married in her late teens. Third factor is intra-tribal genetic heterogeneity influenced by familial restrictions on marriage. Fourth factor is relative geographic isolation due to almost impassible swampy terrain (except for the Nile) and so the Dinka don’t usually marry with anyone other than Dinka. Although modern times are changing these practices, you have practices that over Millenia have favoured a tall man having many offspring with many tall women where genetic heterogeneity is prescribed in an isolated geographical environment. That’s why when you actually visit, you will find yourself surrounded by generally taller men or women than Holland or the Dinaric Alps. "

They are in a sense like Ashkenazi jews and intelligence. They selectively bred for a millenia which has allowed them to significantly deviate from other nearby groups


Btw the Bergmann rule also applies to Asia (obviously), Indonesians are the smallest people on the Equator, SEA are slightly taller, south Chinese a bit taller and the north Chinese + Koreans are the tallest

 

[Deleted member 22099]

Humans are mammals and this rule applies to most mammals. Can't compare mammal humans to insects

Look at felines. The majority of big cats live in tropical climates. Siberian tigers are the exception but in Europe and North America lynxes are the largest cats.

 

[Deleted member 22627]

I don't think there has been enough time to to evolve but It stands to reason that a harsh climate, in a warrior culture would select for bigger and stronger males and females coupled with a meat rich diet.

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

You would get utterly mogged and you KNOW IT. They are taller, better looking, more robust and stronger than you. JFL you are utterly subhuman who are clearly VERY jealous of your superiors.
lmao who is this shitskin faggot trying to fool?

Yes, that's why their woman are getting slayed by shitskin immigrants.

This girls can't wait to ride immigrant dick, because their men have small pink weinee.

 

[Deleted member 22627]

Yes, that's why their woman are getting slayed by shitskin immigrants.

This girls can't wait to ride immigrant dick, because their men have small pink weinee.

lmao still the same copes since 2015. Muh muh refugees welcome. That was literally a small group of far left women and old hags.

You are so fucking desperate. Our women spit on you. You are garbage to them.

 

[Deleted member 22099]

I don't think there has been enough time to to evolve but It stands to reason that a harsh climate, in a warrior culture would select for bigger and stronger males and females coupled with a meat rich diet.

Yeah that's what I think tbh. I was hoping it was largely genetic.

 

[Prettyboy]

Look at felines. The majority of big cats live in tropical climates. Siberian tigers are the exception but in Europe and North America lynxes are the largest cats.

Big cats are also a very bad example since eg. cougars (puma concolor) not only follow Bergmann's rule, they follow it TWICE - both themselves and their preys body size increases with lower annual average temperature

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

lmao still the same copes since 2015. Muh muh refugees welcome. That was literally a small group of far left women and old hags.

You are so fucking desperate. Our women spit on you. You are garbage to them.

Your woman are taking brown dick like no other woman in Europe. These are the facts you can't dissaprove.
In literally no other part of Europe is racemixing prevailent as in Scandinavia, in most of Europe it is not even a thing.
That's because nerdic men are cucks.

 

[Deleted member 22627]

Your woman are taking brown dick like no other woman in Europe. These are the facts you can't dissaprove.
In literally no other part of Europe is racemixing prevailent as in Scandinavia, in most of Europe it is not even a thing.
That's because nerdic men are cucks.

YOU are making the claim, faggot. The burden of proof is on YOU.

Now show me the fucking proof nigger.

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

Cold adapted people are eskimos etc. Nerdics do not live in particulary cold climate, and their ancestors didn't came from a cold climate either.
Adaptation to cold climate is borealization which means shorter limbs, squinty eyes etc.

 

[Deleted member 22099]

Your woman are taking brown dick like no other woman in Europe. These are the facts you can't dissaprove.
In literally no other part of Europe is racemixing prevailent as in Scandinavia, in most of Europe it is not even a thing.
That's because nerdic men are cucks.

England and France have racemixed wayyy more than Sweden. Ethnics in Sweden seem to live in isolated ghettos and have their own society.

 

[Deleted member 25663]

I believe it is. Germanics win strongman because they’re big and tall and focus hard on strongman. They weren’t always tall either. The Vikings weren’t particularly tall. North Germany was shorter than China, England, France, and Russia in the 1700s and the Dutch were the shortest in Europe a few centuries ago before becoming the tallest. They do have it in their genes to be tall though, only behind Northern Chinese and East Africans.

Eastern Europeans, notably Slavs and peoples of the Caucasus, are the most physically dominant Europeans by far despite being shorter than Germanics. Though they got cucked by Northern Europeans for centuries.

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

YOU are making the claim, faggot. The burden of proof is on YOU.

Now show me the fucking proof nigger.

On average only 64% of EU citizens would be comfortable with their sons or daughters being in a relationship with a Black person. However, the results vary widely by country.

Sweden is the most accepting at 89%, followed by Luxembourg 85%, Netherlands 83%, Denmark 82%, and the UK at 81%.

The least accepting country is Bulgaria at 21%, followed by the Czech Republic and Slovakia at 23% each.

Sweden usually first.

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

England and France have racemixed wayyy more than Sweden. Ethnics in Sweden seem to live in isolated ghettos and have their own society.

England and France have collonial past, Sweden is a different story, in Sweden migrants are recent migrants with zero relation to the country. And still they mix more.

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

I believe it is. Germanics win strongman because they’re big and tall and focus hard on strongman. They weren’t always tall either. The Vikings weren’t particularly tall. North Germany was shorter than China, England, France, and Russia in the 1700s and the Dutch were the shortest in Europe a few centuries ago before becoming the tallest. They do have it in their genes to be tall though, only behind Northern Chinese and East Africans.

Eastern Europeans, notably Slavs and peoples of the Caucasus, are the most physically dominant Europeans by far despite being shorter than Germanics. Though they got cucked by Northern Europeans for centuries.

Yeah they are tall only because of their diet in recent years, they are not traditionally tall people.
So when they became tall their frame didn't catch up and most are lankets. Being good at certain sports as a population is often because they pursue that sport, mostly a cultural thing.

 

[Deleted member 22627]

On average only 64% of EU citizens would be comfortable with their sons or daughters being in a relationship with a Black person. However, the results vary widely by country.

Sweden is the most accepting at 89%, followed by Luxembourg 85%, Netherlands 83%, Denmark 82%, and the UK at 81%.

The least accepting country is Bulgaria at 21%, followed by the Czech Republic and Slovakia at 23% each.

Sweden usually first.

Joke survey where they ask a bunch of politically correct adults if THEY would be ok with their kids dating homos and niggers. Says nothing about if the children would want to. Sweden is filled with virtue signalers but when push comes to shove they're all racist.

 

[Deleted member 22627]

England and France have collonial past, Sweden is a different story, in Sweden migrants are recent migrants with zero relation to the country. And still they mix more.

We have a colonial past jfl. And again you have NO BASIS for your lie that they "mix more".

You are a joke.

 

[Deleted member 25119]

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The stereotype of ancient peoples from Germany and Scandinavia is that they were strong and powerful, think of Vikings for example.

Quote from Roman historian Tacitus about the Germans:
View attachment 2104905

I saw another quote from an ancient Arabian Historian that went something like "their physiques are some of the most powerful I have seen in my travels" but I couldn't find it.

This idea is further perpetuated by Strongman almost all of the top competitors are from Northern Europe.

But at the same time, in my personal experience Northern Europeans are really skinny. Average male is a tall lanklet.

Perhaps they were only stronger than other peoples in ancient times because they had a higher protein intake and had harsher lives.

Thoughts?
@cillianmurphycel @justinzayn @Arborist @chinksupremacy @Prettyboy[/USER
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BBC is better

 

[Deleted member 25119]

The stereotype of ancient peoples from Germany and Scandinavia is that they were strong and powerful, think of Vikings for example.

Quote from Roman historian Tacitus about the Germans:
View attachment 2104905

I saw another quote from an ancient Arabian Historian that went something like "their physiques are some of the most powerful I have seen in my travels" but I couldn't find it.

This idea is further perpetuated by Strongman almost all of the top competitors are from Northern Europe.

But at the same time, in my personal experience Northern Europeans are really skinny. Average male is a tall lanklet.

Perhaps they were only stronger than other peoples in ancient times because they had a higher protein intake and had harsher lives.

Thoughts?
@cillianmurphycel @justinzayn @Arborist @chinksupremacy @Prettyboy

BBC is better

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

Joke survey where they ask a bunch of politically correct adults if THEY would be ok with their kids dating homos and niggers. Says nothing about if the children would want to. Sweden is filled with virtue signalers but when push comes to shove they're all racist.

Well we will have to trust studies and not incels on internet forums.
Swedes are most likely to racemix out of all european countries, period.

 

[Deleted member 22627]

Well we will have to trust studies and not incels on internet forums.
Swedes are most likely to racemix out of all european countries, period.

I've proven this demonstrably to be false in my other post. Not only are you wrong you are very wrong. Keep coping lol

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

I've proven this demonstrably to be false in my other post. Not only are you wrong you are very wrong. Keep coping lol

No you didn't.

 

[Deleted member 22627]

No you didn't.

You are in the first stage of the grief ladder. Denial. This will turn to anger with you insulting me, then you'll turn to bargaining where you will offer compromise, suggest you are partially right. Then you will become depressed. This will last a while before you reach the final state. Acceptance.

You will never have a white girl.

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

You are in the first stage of the grief ladder. Denial. This will turn to anger with you insulting me, then you'll turn to bargaining where you will offer compromise, suggest you are partially right. Then you will become depressed. This will last a while before you reach the final state. Acceptance.

You will never have a white girl.

I provided source for my claims while you provided nothing. It means you lost discussion.

 

[Deleted member 22627]

I provided source for my claims while you provided nothing. It means you lost discussion.
And that nerdics are cucks.

My source is statistics Sweden (SCB) which is the state run official bureau for statistics and my query was specific and pertinent to the question.
You linked a survey that didn't even address the subject.

JFL just move on to the next step and accept I fucking owned your low IQ shitskin ass.

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

My source is statistics Sweden (SCB) which is the state run official bureau for statistics and my query was specific and pertinent to the question.
You linked a survey that didn't even address the subject.

JFL just move on to the next step and accept I fucking owned your low IQ shitskin ass.

You didn't post any source to back your claims.
I posted one which proved my point.
JFL just move on the next step and accept I owned your nerdic cucked ass.

 

[Deleted member 22627]

You didn't post any source to back your claims.
I posted one which proved my point.
JFL just move on the next step and accept I owned your nerdic cucked ass.

You posted a survey (lol) about what sentiment parents had about their kids dating Muslim, Black or lgbt people. That says NOTHING about if the kids want to, or are doing it. Absolutely nothing. What do you expect people to answer when someone calls and ask "Would you mind if your child dated a black guy?" I'm surprised not 100% said they didn't mind knowing how virtue signaling people are. I'm outright shocked only 60% something said they'd be ok with Muslims.
I could ask 10 perents would you be ok if you son came home with a boyfriend and I would bet everyone would say they are ok with it but I know for sure most would NOT be ok with it.

Don't fucking say you proved your point when you werent even close to proving it. It wasn't even the same fucking question JFL.

If you are going to claim something to be true then back it up. I wasn't going to since SCB database is hell on earth but I'm inclined to dig up the data again and compile it just to shut your shitskin ass up.

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

Of coarse I proved my point and I backed it up with actual data.
You on the other hand provided nothing but autistic ramblings which you keep posting over and over, I guess autism is nerdic trait so you must.
Nerdic woman love ethnikkk cock more than any than other woman in Europe.
Now, if you are over with your aspie tantrum STFU and let people discuss actual topic.

 

[Deleted member 22627]

Of coarse I proved my point and I backed it up with actual data.
You on the other hand provided nothing but autistic ramblings which you keep posting over and over, I guess autism is nerdic trait so you must.
Nerdic woman love ethnikkk cock more than any than other woman in Europe.
Now, if you are over with your aspie tantrum STFU and let people discuss actual topic.

YOU PROVED NOTHING YOU AUTISTIC FUCK. YOU DON'T EVEN COMPREHEND THE QUESTION LMAO.

WHAT DATA?????? YOU STUPID NIGGER!



The European Social Survey (ESS) is a biennial survey of social attitudes and behavior in Europe. They have collected data on interethnic relationships in Sweden in their most recent survey wave (ESS Round 9, conducted in 2018-2019).

According to the ESS Round 9 data, approximately 12% of all couples in Sweden are interethnic (i.e. one partner has a different ethnicity than the other). The most common interethnic relationships in Sweden are between Swedes and people with European backgrounds (excluding Scandinavia), which make up around 60% of all interethnic relationships. Relationships between Swedes and people from non-European backgrounds are less common but still make up a significant portion of interethnic relationships, with around 20% of interethnic relationships being between Swedes and people from Africa, Asia, or the Middle East.

That leaves 2.4% marrying shitskins and gooks and that includes men which obviously stand for the vast majority of those marriages. Thai wifes etc.

Now you can go there and look at the fucking source yourself.

 

[XtrovertNTnormalfag]

YOU PROVED NOTHING YOU AUTISTIC FUCK. YOU DON'T EVEN COMPREHEND THE QUESTION LMAO.

WHAT DATA?????? YOU STUPID NIGGER!



The European Social Survey (ESS) is a biennial survey of social attitudes and behavior in Europe. They have collected data on interethnic relationships in Sweden in their most recent survey wave (ESS Round 9, conducted in 2018-2019).

According to the ESS Round 9 data, approximately 12% of all couples in Sweden are interethnic (i.e. one partner has a different ethnicity than the other). The most common interethnic relationships in Sweden are between Swedes and people with European backgrounds (excluding Scandinavia), which make up around 60% of all interethnic relationships. Relationships between Swedes and people from non-European backgrounds are less common but still make up a significant portion of interethnic relationships, with around 20% of interethnic relationships being between Swedes and people from Africa, Asia, or the Middle East.

That leaves 2.4% marrying shitskins and gooks and that includes men which obviously stand for the vast majority of those marriages. Thai wifes etc.

Now you can go there and look at the fucking source yourself.

You have no clue what percentage of interethnic relationships are with non-europeans, and this study you posted bascially proves that Swedes (females infact) are massively dating ethnikkks.
"Anonymous postal survey" lol souds like a joke survey you are accusing me of, and even that "Anonymous postal survey" proves you wrong.
I provided actual data which comes from Eurobarometer report not "Anonymous postal survey"and backed my claims while you provided nothing so far.
I see you turn to personal insults and ad hominem when you can't prove a point.