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Depends on genetics.
 
Fuck no its mandatory.

Even if you just want to be lean/aesthetic, you still need a decent amount of muscle to actually pull off that look
 
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"Why gymcel when it's all about your face. Take the facepill jfl." - Francisco Lachowski
 
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"Why gymcel when it's all about your face. Take the facepill jfl." - Francisco Lachowski
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Chico is legit gymcelling currently
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and he's not even good at it, my mans hanging on rings and skipping rope just to look like a holocaust victim jfl.
 
"Why gymcel when it's all about your face. Take the facepill jfl." - Francisco Lachowski
He obviously was very low bf%, and doing excercise.
When he said that.
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But also true. Face > body. With exception of manlets, than it's manlet body > face
 
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David Laid - Hoogte en Gewicht - wieis
perfect physique
 
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He obviously was very low bf%, and doing excercise.
When he said that.
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But also true. Face > body. With exception of manlets, than it's manlet body > face
jfl he never said that, he was always gymcelling. Just hes very tall and has very shitty musclebuilding genetics.
 
good for health, good for frame, good for discipline, good for looks
 
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leanmaxxing is law
 
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No, it isn't cope. It's necessary. People are always on about "only face matters only face" it's stupid, and it's the only reason for "gym being cope". Yes if you have an incel tier face on a good body you will look a little silly (better, but silly) but if you look normie and have a good body, which is ripped, defined, and muscular but lean (think david laid, but more natty-looking jfl) you'll be more appealing than just being normie and lanklet or fat. The only excuse people use when saying gym is cope is that it's all about the face, because they have no other reason. Body is incredibly important too, it's strange to me people even damn disagree with that (this website is sperg central though ig lol). David Laid would not be as attractive if he was a lanklet, and CERTAINLY not if he was fatter. Tall and strong (again, ripped but lean type strong, not male-gaze bearmode type strong) is literally perfect. Ascends you quite hard.

JUST REMEMBER that while bearmode is still more attractive than a bad body, it is not as attractive (to modern women) as a ripped/shredded lean physique. Women that are like under 30 these days prefer their men to have a "skinner" look, for many reasons, but mostly imo because they love the way the veins look, the way the body is defined and because it is commonly thought that "skinny" men have huge dicks (the way their body looks actually helps it look bigger). BUT, you still need to have some muscle on you, because it's a big thing for women that the man is bigger and stronger than them, they love it. It's why they love being choked and roughed around in bed, knowing that their man is more of a physical presence than them drives them crazy.

I'll attach some female-gaze physiques I think are good below. Couple of them had women going insane in their comments. Also notice how there is a bit of a range, some skinner and some bigger, yet they all have a relatively similar aesthetic.

Any questions feel free to ask. In b4 someone fucking posts a guy with incel face but good body to "prove a point"
 

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No, it isn't cope. It's necessary. People are always on about "only face matters only face" it's stupid, and it's the only reason for "gym being cope". Yes if you have an incel tier face on a good body you will look a little silly (better, but silly) but if you look normie and have a good body, which is ripped, defined, and muscular but lean (think david laid, but more natty-looking jfl) you'll be more appealing than just being normie and lanklet or fat. The only excuse people use when saying gym is cope is that it's all about the face, because they have no other reason. Body is incredibly important too, it's strange to me people even damn disagree with that (this website is sperg central though ig lol). David Laid would not be as attractive if he was a lanklet, and CERTAINLY not if he was fatter. Tall and strong (again, ripped but lean type strong, not male-gaze bearmode type strong) is literally perfect. Ascends you quite hard.

Don't listen to people on this website regarding the gym.

JUST REMEMBER that while bearmode is still more attractive than a bad body, it is not as attractive (to modern women) as a ripped/shredded lean physique.

Any questions feel free to ask. In b4 someone fucking posts a guy with incel face but good body to "prove a point" fuck off non-nt ngmi retard
I used to be heavy favor of lifting heavy weight, but gym is shit. We all know it's about face. Many characteritics of gym are unnatural and harm the body in the long term. Bone> muscles that is a proven fact. Energy and resources spent on repairing muscles instead of bone and collagen. In theory if you get enough rest,and nutritients it will balance out ,but will never happen in real life do to many reasons. Lifting counter intuitively to how the body naturally works will cause posture imbalances, uncecrssary stress. If you stretch extensively to make sure the muscles can do the movements while remaining very limber, sure maybe you can prevent most of the damage (but nobody does this or will do this). The added stress and poor skeletal posture also pulls on your scalp causing it to tighten resulting in premature balding and receding hairline over years.



I always knocked people who do plyametrics but if you take a look they often have the best faces.


Light lifting with heavy stretching and more focus on bone health is the way to go. But let's be honest your not going to stretch for 2+ hours a day so just skip the gym
 
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No, it isn't cope. It's necessary. People are always on about "only face matters only face" it's stupid, and it's the only reason for "gym being cope". Yes if you have an incel tier face on a good body you will look a little silly (better, but silly) but if you look normie and have a good body, which is ripped, defined, and muscular but lean (think david laid, but more natty-looking jfl) you'll be more appealing than just being normie and lanklet or fat. The only excuse people use when saying gym is cope is that it's all about the face, because they have no other reason. Body is incredibly important too, it's strange to me people even damn disagree with that (this website is sperg central though ig lol). David Laid would not be as attractive if he was a lanklet, and CERTAINLY not if he was fatter. Tall and strong (again, ripped but lean type strong, not male-gaze bearmode type strong) is literally perfect. Ascends you quite hard.

JUST REMEMBER that while bearmode is still more attractive than a bad body, it is not as attractive (to modern women) as a ripped/shredded lean physique. Women that are like under 30 these days prefer their men to have a "skinner" look, for many reasons, but mostly imo because they love the way the veins look, the way the body is defined and because it is commonly thought that "skinny" men have huge dicks (the way their body looks actually helps it look bigger). BUT, you still need to have some muscle on you, because it's a big thing for women that the man is bigger and stronger than them, they love it. It's why they love being choked and roughed around in bed, knowing that their man is more of a physical presence than them drives them crazy.

I'll attach some female-gaze physiques I think are good below. Couple of them had women going insane in their comments. Also notice how there is a bit of a range, some skinner and some bigger, yet they all have a relatively similar aesthetic.

Any questions feel free to ask. In b4 someone fucking posts a guy with incel face but good body to "prove a point"

Updated my post, added some stuff I originally left out
 
I used to be heavy favor of lifting heavy weight, but gym is shit. We all know it's about face. Many characteritics of gym are unnatural and harm the body in the long term. Bone> muscles that is a proven fact. Energy and resources spent on repairing muscles instead of bone and collagen. In theory if you get enough rest,and nutritients it will balance out ,but will never happen in real life do to many reasons. Lifting counter intuitively to how the body naturally works will cause posture imbalances, uncecrssary stress. If you stretch extensively to make sure the muscles can do the movements while remaining very limber, sure maybe you can prevent most of the damage (but nobody does this or will do this). The added stress and poor skeletal posture also pulls on your scalp causing it to tighten resulting in premature balding and receding hairline over years.



I always knocked people who do plyametrics but if you take a look they often have the best faces.


Light lifting with heavy stretching and more focus on bone health is the way to go. But let's be honest your not going to stretch for 2+ hours a day so just skip the gym

Your just making shit up because your too lazy to go to the gym 6 days a week for 1 hour.
 

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I used to be heavy favor of lifting heavy weight, but gym is shit. We all know it's about face. Many characteritics of gym are unnatural and harm the body in the long term. Bone> muscles that is a proven fact. Energy and resources spent on repairing muscles instead of bone and collagen. In theory if you get enough rest,and nutritients it will balance out ,but will never happen in real life do to many reasons. Lifting counter intuitively to how the body naturally works will cause posture imbalances, uncecrssary stress. If you stretch extensively to make sure the muscles can do the movements while remaining very limber, sure maybe you can prevent most of the damage (but nobody does this or will do this). The added stress and poor skeletal posture also pulls on your scalp causing it to tighten resulting in premature balding and receding hairline over years.



I always knocked people who do plyametrics but if you take a look they often have the best faces.


Light lifting with heavy stretching and more focus on bone health is the way to go. But let's be honest your not going to stretch for 2+ hours a day so just skip the gym
some actual good points here, which i'm glad to see

Of course, face is more important, but having a good body also helps to ascend heavily. Height and being physically bigger is huge in terms of relationships with women, it's natural for them to want that and thus people who do have height and a good body are more appealing. You can have someone with a good face but if they are 5'5 and have a crap body it will be a lot different from being 6'3 and shredded.

About the other physical reasons, I haven't read into that much so would have to do some research on it. But imo strenuous physical activity such as the gym is something i think is needed, humans evolved to do a lot physically, obviously I do think that it can be taken too far, and that's where issues come in to do with health. Getting enough rest and nutrients is an important part of going to the gym tho, so I think most people that take it seriously do look after that.

Did u have any readings on some of the stuff u said, I actually hadn't heard of this or considered this before
 
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What's the ideal bf percentage for slaying? I'm currently at 20% btw.
on that chart I'd say 10. If you get too low it looks a little grotesque because the muscles are too defined which can be off putting.
 
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It isn't cope, but it isn't the #1 thing. Gym body doesn't negate height, face and hair failos.
 
Your just making shit up because your too lazy to go to the gym 6 days a week for 1 hour.
Try again faggot.

Its always fat white fucks copeing about gym. News flash, you got fat because you were treated nicely your whole life and had an easy life from white halo.

Fyi that photo is of a boy before puberty and a man after puberty. Only reason Hazma "Slays" is because he's well above average for the phenotype. 6'1?, higher test than most curries. Literally any race with bone development of 6'1 would mog this little fuck. Your bones suck and that is why your ugly.

Its like seeing a pretty black girl, white girl or asian with a big butt.
 

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on that chart I'd say 10. If you get too low it looks a little grotesque because the muscles are too defined which can be off putting.
pls stop. 8 is on roids. You will never have that much mass with that little body fat. 10% is maybe on roids, maybe not. You can tell he has the most attractive face just by looking at the body.
 
some actual good points here, which i'm glad to see

Of course, face is more important, but having a good body also helps to ascend heavily. Height and being physically bigger is huge in terms of relationships with women, it's natural for them to want that and thus people who do have height and a good body are more appealing. You can have someone with a good face but if they are 5'5 and have a crap body it will be a lot different from being 6'3 and shredded.

About the other physical reasons, I haven't read into that much so would have to do some research on it. But imo strenuous physical activity such as the gym is something i think is needed, humans evolved to do a lot physically, obviously I do think that it can be taken too far, and that's where issues come in to do with health. Getting enough rest and nutrients is an important part of going to the gym tho, so I think most people that take it seriously do look after that.

Did u have any readings on some of the stuff u said, I actually hadn't heard of this or considered this before
This post I found 4chan about the root cause of balding really made things click for me.

The root problem of being unhealthy (ugly) seems to be a bone problem. Teeth,hair,head,lips,skin,eyes,frame, muscle growth, jawline, cheekbones all root from poor bone health.

I'm thinkin about writing a guide to end inceldom about bone health if I successfully get my bones healthy and in order.
 
Your just making shit up because your too lazy to go to the gym 6 days a week for 1 hour.
When I was a twink in hs, I had way more females into me. By senior year and later when I got carried away with lifting I got less females. Now im going back to twink mode and seeing more female interest. Go twink, thank me later
 

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Bro what? Explain on that lmao
Face more important than body shape.
But if you are a manlet, than bodylength more important than face, because you are game over from the get go
 
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i went to the gym and saw this 💩 thot.

So I imagined the gym was a cave◼️, and we were all cavemen👬. and Immediately i had an instinct to compete with all the loosers and to claim her as my reward🏆.

but no-one died and nobody was rewarded, so she continued to live as used property:trepidation:
 
realistically, to a point,
i would say starting from nothing, strict training and diet for a year,
you basically close to maxxing out your looks potential related to gym,
any further of minmax are just pure gymcel cope, you should only do minimum to maintain the leaness and gain
 
pls stop. 8 is on roids. You will never have that much mass with that little body fat. 10% is maybe on roids, maybe not. You can tell he has the most attractive face just by looking at the body.
Yeah i'm not disagreeing with that, that's what i was sayin, that low bf is only attainable on steroids and looks gross. 10%, though quite hard to attain naturally, is very good, 15% too imo
 
Bone> muscles that is a proven fact. Energy and resources spent on repairing muscles instead of bone and collagen.
Lifting weights or resistance training literally benefits bone you moron

"bone density is increased by lifting weights much more than anything you'd ever get through your diet"
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Weight training is proven many times to slow down and even reverse osteoporosis. Weight training puts stress on the bones and causes them to grow stronger.
But let's be honest your not going to stretch for 2+ hours a day
you don't need to stretch for 2+ hours a day where are you pulling these number from even?
When I was a twink in hs, I had way more females into me. By senior year and later when I got carried away with lifting I got less females. Now im going back to twink mode and seeing more female interest. Go twink, thank me later
my guess is you bulked up and stayed bulking causing you to be at a higher bodyfat% making your face to be more bloated and rounded looking
 
Lifting weights or resistance training literally benefits bone you moron

"bone density is increased by lifting weights much more than anything you'd ever get through your diet"
timestamped

Weight training is proven many times to slow down and even reverse osteoporosis. Weight training puts stress on the bones and causes them to grow stronger.

you don't need to stretch for 2+ hours a day where are you pulling these number from even?

my guess is you bulked up and stayed bulking causing you to be at a higher bodyfat% making your face to be more bloated and rounded looking

Modern weight lifting is too taxing on the body and isn't focused on bone health. You need to prioritize getting enough micronutrients to build strong bones instead of going to the gym 5 days a week. These guys in the video are balding and bald and aged a lot. I refuse to listen to someone who looks like that bc that is what will happen to you.
 
Lifting weights or resistance training literally benefits bone you moron

"bone density is increased by lifting weights much more than anything you'd ever get through your diet"
timestamped

Weight training is proven many times to slow down and even reverse osteoporosis. Weight training puts stress on the bones and causes them to grow stronger.

you don't need to stretch for 2+ hours a day where are you pulling these number from even?

my guess is you bulked up and stayed bulking causing you to be at a higher bodyfat% making your face to be more bloated and rounded looking

Only reason people cannot get enough bone nutrients in modern diet is because we are fed goyslop.

Tell me you are getting enough k2 or calcium each day and maybe I would listen to you. Until then shush it goyim 🤣.
 
Modern weight lifting is too taxing on the body and isn't focused on bone health. You need to prioritize getting enough micronutrients to build strong bones instead of going to the gym 5 days a week. These guys in the video are balding and bald and aged a lot. I refuse to listen to someone who looks like that bc that is what will happen to you.
Only reason people cannot get enough bone nutrients in modern diet is because we are fed goyslop.

Tell me you are getting enough k2 or calcium each day and maybe I would listen to you. Until then shush it goyim 🤣.
you are a complete and utter broscientist suffering from dunning kruger effect
just by your responses I can tell you have no understanding or education on human biochemistry or anything related to peer reviewed scientific literature and are therefore not qualified to speak on such topics

you're a boy in short pants please hit the books and get a proper understanding of the basics before you start barking at me and spreading misinformation to others
 
you are a complete and utter broscientist suffering from dunning kruger effect
just by your responses I can tell you have no understanding or education on human biochemistry or anything related to peer reviewed scientific literature and are therefore not qualified to speak on such topics

you're a boy in short pants please hit the books and get a proper understanding of the basics before you start barking at me and spreading misinformation to others
Post physique or stfu 🤣😂
 
Problem is people focus on it too much and go too hard such as dirty bulking, taking creatine etc which both destroys facial aesthetics.

Whereas if you do a lean bulk and don’t take creatine then you will keep the facial aesthetics whilst adding muscle.
 
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This is interesting. Any sources for this?
No he has none at all because he is a retarded broscientist. He has no understanding in the field of exercise physiology and therefore doesn't understand the relationship between muscle and bone and how they interact with eachother.
 
Nah but face over everything. Its good to have the best body and face that you can tho.
 
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cant believe there is people trying to looksmax not going to the gym. no gym=not looksmaxxing
 
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