Is Hamza sub 5??

yeah having revival as a trainer helps a lot as I know he wont lie to me ever too lol
I would definitely let revival fuck me for the T boost, most efficacious when rectally administered, no homo. :ogre:
 
I would definitely let revival fuck me for the T boost, most efficacious when rectally administered, no homo. :ogre:
well i aint gonna do that but me and him talk about the blackpill sometimes in between sets of my lifts lmfao
 
He is 3/10 overall. Probably incel without jestermaxxing/statusmaxxing etc.

He has an obvious eye area deformity. Foids would probably give him disgusted looks at parties etc.
 
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He’s def above average for a curry

Out of all the curries I see on a daily basis he mogs 99% of em
Are the curries you hang around that subhuman? I thought this would be the average curry in your social circle:

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Are the curries you hang around that subhuman? I thought this would be the average curry in your social circle:

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Social circle? JFL

Im talking about my city lol

Zayn is also a terrible example since he’s not even full curry & top 1%

The average curry I see in clubs, bars, walking in the streets are overweight, out of style, etc
 
Low tier normie
He has an eye area deformity. He needs OD and cantho or IDK. Maybe, infra and supra implants could fix his eye area?
 
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i would think he is competing with ltn guys tbh, he is above avg for a curry since he looksmaxxed
height probably helps him a lot tbh
and being NT goes a long way which he seems to be from his college pics he showed
 
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Social circle? JFL

Im talking about my city lol

Zayn is also a terrible example since he’s not even full curry & top 1%

The average curry I see in clubs, bars, walking in the streets are overweight, out of style, etc
Oh. Nah. It is pointless to even consider those people. They are not even in the game. Also, those are primarily south indians. Like these guys are curries too btw:

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The average curry dude with decent pheno, height and face is much better looking than you think. You have been over exposed to the dravidians on this site and the internet in general.

Zayn is def not 1% for a curry. I'd say top 20%. Maybe lower because he is a manlet with a small skull. The guys above mog him IRL.

Appeal-wise, zayn is equal to a 6 ft white HTN. No more. He is haloed a lot by status. Also, he is obviously indian looking. C'mon.
 
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Pre selection and status pill is so fucking legit tbh. People are giving hamza 6s and 7s but are hesitant to give legit Indian chadlites a 7. Looksmatched btw

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People use the mate choices of women as a heuristic to help determine a guys worth if you're a virgin after a certain age it's probably because tons of women rejected you which means there's probably something wrong with you that is low value. Similarly if you have a high lay or show people that you have a high lay count, people think you're high value. This is how PUAs work. I like Hamza tho he makes decent content but saying he's anywhere near a chadlite facially is a huge cap.
Yeah. Hamza has an obvious deformity and people are saying he is HTN JFL.
 
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Wtf that nigga face is bug eyed cuck tier. Barely 4 psl
 
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Oh. Nah. It is pointless to even consider those people. They are not even in the game. Also, those are primarily south indians. Like these guys are curries too btw:

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The average curry dude with decent pheno, height and face is much better looking than you think. You have been over exposed to the dravidians on this site and the internet in general.

Zayn is def not 1% for a curry. I'd say top 20%. Maybe lower because he is a manlet with a small skull. The guys above mog him IRL.

Appeal-wise, zayn is equal to a 6 ft white HTN. No more. He is haloed a lot by status. Also, he is obviously indian looking. C'mon.
Yeah I’d agree with that

And the guys you posted I rarely see them maybe 1 or 2. Actually I just remembered I have friends who look similar to that lol

All halo’d by their families wealth

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Oh. Nah. It is pointless to even consider those people. They are not even in the game. Also, those are primarily south indians. Like these guys are curries too btw:

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The average curry dude with decent pheno, height and face is much better looking than you think. You have been over exposed to the dravidians on this site and the internet in general.

Zayn is def not 1% for a curry. I'd say top 20%. Maybe lower because he is a manlet with a small skull. The guys above mog him IRL.

Appeal-wise, zayn is equal to a 6 ft white HTN. No more. He is haloed a lot by status. Also, he is obviously indian looking. C'mon.
This is exactly the point I was going to make. I know a lot of fair skinned Indians who do pretty well. They also tend to be taller and better looking than most South Indians. I do know two south Indian slayers though. One guy is 6'4 and above average facially and the other guy is maybe 5'6-5'7 but looks a lot like Brian Whittaker
 
Yeah I’d agree with that

And the guys you posted I rarely see them maybe 1 or 2. Actually I just remembered I have friends who look similar to that lol

All halo’d by their families wealth

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All of these curries have much worse phenos than the dudes I shared. They look very low class. Like the sort of dudes you'd expect to message random women on insta and creep them out. They are probably incel.
 
All of these curries have much worse phenos than the dudes I shared. They look very low class. Like the sort of dudes you'd expect to message random women on insta and creep them out. They are probably incel.
2 of the 3 are in LTRS looool
 
This is exactly the point I was going to make. I know a lot of fair skinned Indians who do pretty well. They also tend to be taller and better looking than most South Indians. I do know two south Indian slayers though. One guy is 6'4 and above average facially and the other guy is maybe 5'6-5'7 but looks a lot like Brian Whittaker
Yes. Back home, I used to see many pakistanis with blue/green eyes and pale skin. It's not that rare.
 
Oh. Nah. It is pointless to even consider those people. They are not even in the game. Also, those are primarily south indians. Like these guys are curries too btw:

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The average curry dude with decent pheno, height and face is much better looking than you think. You have been over exposed to the dravidians on this site and the internet in general.

Zayn is def not 1% for a curry. I'd say top 20%. Maybe lower because he is a manlet with a small skull. The guys above mog him IRL.

Appeal-wise, zayn is equal to a 6 ft white HTN. No more. He is haloed a lot by status. Also, he is obviously indian looking. C'mon.
And you claim u see Dravidians getting girls. Lol.
 
Low tier normie.

This is what curries have to look in the west for scraps
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And you claim u see Dravidians getting girls. Lol.
Showed you proof of dark-skinned men with much worse features than you getting gl women for south asian standards. Also, I noticed some of these women hung out almost exclusively with dark-skinned guys and flirted with them etc. Maybe, it is a niche but I don't think the vast majority of indian/paki women care that much about your skin tone. Heck, I know far too many very light skinned curries who were basically invisible and were overlooked in favor of taller, darker-skinned curries who had big frames and were somewhat gymmaxxed. Obviously, I did see white guys get crushed on a lot but these guys were legit white and not just light-skinned.
 
He has an eye area deformity. He needs OD and cantho or IDK. Maybe, infra and supra implants could fix his eye area?
He needs the whole book
 
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He needs the whole book
His orbitals are probably deformed tier. Almost as bad as someone with crouzon syndrome. Not sure if it can even be fixed entirely. Though he can only look better with his starting point.
 
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Showed you proof of dark-skinned men with much worse features than you getting gl women for south asian standards. Also, I noticed some of these women hung out almost exclusively with dark-skinned guys and flirted with them etc. Maybe, it is a niche but I don't think the vast majority of indian/paki women care that much about your skin tone. Heck, I know far too many very light skinned curries who were basically invisible and were overlooked in favor of taller, darker-skinned curries who had big frames and were somewhat gymmaxxed. Obviously, I did see white guys get crushed on a lot but these guys were legit white and not just light-skinned.
What you're saying doesn't make sense.. You claim Dravidians are not even in the game and look significantly worse than other Pakistanis but also claim to be seeing dark skinned Indians with girls. You're back tracking.
 
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how many sessions per month
well tbh it mostly is text based and send videos of your form to him

me and him video call weekly since my squat and row form needs work

so i guess 4 video calls a month maybe 5
 
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Appeal-wise, zayn is equal to a 6 ft white HTN. No more. He is haloed a lot by status. Also, he is obviously indian looking. C'mon.
Pakistani looksoverall STRIKES again
 
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Maybe they get ugly girls with a lot of effort but they are better off escortcelling tbh.
Neither of them are incels loool I’ve seen their girlfriend / fiancé

You’re makin a lot of assumptions that aren’t even close
 
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What you're saying doesn't make sense.. You claim Dravidians are not even in the game and look significantly worse than other Pakistanis but also claim to be seeing dark skinned Indians with girls. You're back tracking.
Nah. What I said reflects what I saw in curryland. Height, facial structure, NT etc. seem to influence your dating success but skin tone is nowhere near as relevant as this site makes it out to be. I saw far too many light-skinned normies who got absolutely nothing and so many dark-skinned dudes who were always with girls. I have even seen girls call a guy ugly because he is too pale. It really depends on the girl tbh. I have noticed many of the attractive pakistani girls with lighter skin dated primarily dark-skinned men. This is true for pretty much all of the girls I liked. They all ended up with dark-skinned guys.

Tbh I don't know how it is in the west for sure because I haven't been here long enough. But I guess unless you look legit indistinguishable from a white guy you will be taxxed if you are ethnic. The difference in SMV between a dravidian and light-skinned indian is not that much. They are in the same boat more or less. If anything, I think more masculine/robust looking indians might have a slight advantage. Like pretty much of all of the indians I have seen so far in the UK with decent looking girls were tamil/dravidian with a similar look to VicMackey.
 
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Pakistani looksoverall STRIKES again
What I said was perfectly reasonable. Obviously, if we autistically analyzed his face, he'd def be in chadlite territory. But IRL where overall size and pheno are fucking important, he will not have the same appeal as a 6 ft white chadlite. He is a scrawny dude and looks indian/pakistani. This failos him hard.
 
What I said was perfectly reasonable. Obviously, if we autistically analyzed his face, he'd def be in chadlite territory. But IRL where overall size and pheno are fucking important, he will not have the same appeal as a 6 ft white chadlite. He is a scrawny dude and looks indian/pakistani. This failos him hard.
Pakistani looksoverall strikes ANOTHER TIME
 
Nah. What I said reflects what I saw in curryland. Height, facial structure, NT etc. seem to influence your dating success but skin tone is nowhere near as relevant as this site makes it out to be. I saw far too many light-skinned normies who got absolutely nothing and so many dark-skinned dudes who were always with girls. I have even seen girls call a guy ugly because he is too pale. It really depends on the girl tbh. I have noticed many of the attractive pakistani girls with lighter skin dated primarily dark-skinned men. This is true for pretty much all of the girls I liked. They all ended up with dark-skinned guys.

Tbh I don't know how it is in the west for sure because I haven't been here long enough. But I guess unless you look legit indistinguishable from a white guy you will be taxxed if you are ethnic. The difference in SMV between a dravidian and light-skinned indian is not that much. They are in the same boat more or less. If anything, I think more masculine/robust looking indians might have a slight advantage. Like pretty much of all of the indians I have seen so far in the UK with decent looking girls were tamil/dravidian with a similar look to VicMackey.
Good troll ngl. Your posts all seem to be extremely eloquent and convincing at first glance but u say things that are beyond parody. Pakistani Looksoverall indeed @volcelfatcel
 
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Pakistani looksoverall strikes ANOTHER TIME
You are comparing me to a delusional retard who claims that it is better to be 5'7" than 6'7" JFL.

HTN appeal is pretty fucking good for a indian. The vast majority of the curries here will never reach this level.
 
Good troll ngl. Your posts all seem to be extremely eloquent and convincing at first glance but u say things that are beyond parody. Pakistani Looksoverall indeed @volcelfatcel
Nah. I do troll a bit. But you need to spend more time outside this site if you honestly think being a Dravidian is a death sentence. Maybe it is different in India, but in Pakistan, darker-skinned men did not fare much worse than lighter-skinned ones everything else being equal. Obviously, dark-skinned men who are ugly, fat, bald, short etc don't get shit but as long as you are facially decent, normal height and fit, being dark-skinned will not automatically make you an incel in curryland. I'd go as far as saying there is a niche of women who prefer dravidians but you think I am trolling when I say this.
 
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He's like 6'1 with that body and his face is average looking, but beardmaxxing helps with that. Not sub-5. Probably mogs 99% of curry guys he passes by IRL.
 
Oh. Nah. It is pointless to even consider those people. They are not even in the game. Also, those are primarily south indians. Like these guys are curries too btw:

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The average curry dude with decent pheno, height and face is much better looking than you think. You have been over exposed to the dravidians on this site and the internet in general.

Zayn is def not 1% for a curry. I'd say top 20%. Maybe lower because he is a manlet with a small skull. The guys above mog him IRL.

Appeal-wise, zayn is equal to a 6 ft white HTN. No more. He is haloed a lot by status. Also, he is obviously indian looking. C'mon.
99.99% of North Indian zoomers look nothing like this IRL, people can barely tell them apart from the dravidians.
I always found it funny how the most attractive guys in all of India are basically slightly above average persians/arabs.
 
How did Hamza pack on all that mass if he is low T??
He is not low T his levels about 450. Also there is ton of other factors outside T that responsable for muscle building. You can have 1000 natty levels and still struggling to gain muscle
 
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99.99% of North Indian zoomers look nothing like this IRL, people can barely tell them apart from the dravidians.
I always found it funny how the most attractive guys in all of India are basically slightly above average persians/arabs.
Cope. Maybe in the west. But in curryland , these dudes would not stand out in public at all.
 
Absolute copers rating this guy HTN, he is a beard frauding curry Framecel, this guy doesn't look like he lifts if he wears a shirt, the girls he’s dated are absolutely revolting, I would vomit if I had to touch one of them. He’s a tall LTN that’s spams landwhale sub5 women until they give him crumbs of pussy.
 
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Hamza is living proof that a good body can raise you up 1 point.
I don’t know why his foids always look like shit (in before NO ONE FUCKS IN THE UK BRO LOL LMAO ROFLMAO) but I think he looks good.
 
Facially just below average I'd say or literally average mid tier normie

He's just made the best of his situation I don't rate his looks at all tbh
 
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he is high tier normie but people cope with curry failo not realising he doesnt fit into it sice he isnt fat, bald and short
smartest racepilled person ive seen on this forum besides me. you deserve a medal. people acting like its completely over because ur ethnic. When in reality it only lowers your smv /10 by like 1 point. Brown chad > white chadlite
 
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Facially just below average I'd say or literally average mid tier normie

He's just made the best of his situation I don't rate his looks at all tbh
hes a htn but typical idiots underrate him cuz hes brown even tho hes jacked and tall. go rot in your basement u incel
 
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Absolute copers rating this guy HTN, he is a beard frauding curry Framecel, this guy doesn't look like he lifts if he wears a shirt, the girls he’s dated are absolutely revolting, I would vomit if I had to touch one of them. He’s a tall LTN that’s spams landwhale sub5 women until they give him crumbs of pussy.
He is deformed.
 
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hes a htn but typical idiots underrate him cuz hes brown even tho hes jacked and tall. go rot in your basement u incel
Im brown as well phaggot
I'm strictly talking facially he is not good looking at all
Overall he would be a lower tier HTN including his body and his height

I mog him btw if you're wondering
 
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