Is IQ basically genetic? (new research contradicts many old beliefs)

[Deleted member 9467]

I know this is very un-PC but that's why I love this forum. The current scientific literature shockingly shows the different races (race in the colloquial sense, although genetic distance is measurable) evolved VERY differently, as well as that human evolution is very much going on right now. It's been theorized that the increase in the IQ of Ashkenazi Jews came in the time period from 1600-1800.

• Sub-Saharan Africans didn't need IQ they needed low inib and what scientists call the "warrior gene" (Monoamine oxidase) which makes men more prideful and aggressive.
• East-Asians are scientifically the most well adapted to cold climates, where a bigger brain and higher IQ to use and make tools is a lot more important than low inib. (high inib helps u survive actually). Just look at their physical features - the mongoloid has shorter limbs, a flatter face, and more adipose tissue in their eye area to decrease the surface area to survive the cold. Wider faces were an adaptation to increase bite force to bite through frozen foods.

Isn't it naive to think that things like top speed, strength, height, and explosiveness vary between races but then intelligence is just this pariah that can't be talked about? I call bs

 

[IdiAmin]

I know this is very un-PC but that's why I love this forum. The current scientific literature shockingly shows the different races (race in the colloquial sense, although genetic distance is measurable) evolved VERY differently, as well as that human evolution is very much going on right now. It's been theorized that the increase in the IQ of Ashkenazi Jews came in the time period from 1600-1800.

• Sub-Saharan Africans didn't need IQ they needed low inib and what scientists call the "warrior gene" (Monoamine oxidase) which makes men more prideful and aggressive.
• East-Asians are scientifically the most well adapted to cold climates, where a bigger brain and higher IQ to use and make tools is a lot more important than low inib. (high inib helps u survive actually). Just look at their physical features - the mongoloid has shorter limbs, a flatter face, and more adipose tissue in their eye area to decrease the surface area to survive the cold. Wider faces were an adaptation to increase bite force to bite through frozen foods.

Isn't it naive to think that things like top speed, strength, height, and explosiveness vary between races but then intelligence is just this pariah that can't be talked about? I call bs

Who tf cares about IQ anyway, IQ is a cope for nerds

 

[Hightwolf]

what does it say about other races? Can you link some studies.

 

[Trevor Philips]

IQ is half genetic by late adolescence if I'm correct.

 

[john2]

Who tf cares about IQ anyway, IQ is a cope for nerds

Honestly if you're at least above 70-75 (which makes you functional in society), then you shouldn't worry about IQ.

Being 130+, I can confirm it's all looks... even in the work zone. People with a sub 115 IQ are doctors and engineers.

 

[Deleted member 3323]

I know this is very un-PC but that's why I love this forum. The current scientific literature shockingly shows the different races (race in the colloquial sense, although genetic distance is measurable) evolved VERY differently, as well as that human evolution is very much going on right now. It's been theorized that the increase in the IQ of Ashkenazi Jews came in the time period from 1600-1800.

• Sub-Saharan Africans didn't need IQ they needed low inib and what scientists call the "warrior gene" (Monoamine oxidase) which makes men more prideful and aggressive.
• East-Asians are scientifically the most well adapted to cold climates, where a bigger brain and higher IQ to use and make tools is a lot more important than low inib. (high inib helps u survive actually). Just look at their physical features - the mongoloid has shorter limbs, a flatter face, and more adipose tissue in their eye area to decrease the surface area to survive the cold. Wider faces were an adaptation to increase bite force to bite through frozen foods.

Isn't it naive to think that things like top speed, strength, height, and explosiveness vary between races but then intelligence is just this pariah that can't be talked about? I call bs

There are a couple of things wrong with your theory

- Asians weren't always high IQ or intellegent. The country of china was mostly illiterate until the government made a reform.

- Asian countries vary by climate, not all Asian countries are cold, there are quite a few where the climate is tropical or temperate. If climate really had anything to do with it then the tribes in Siberia should have an IQ higher than any other race, right?

-Working together is a trait that exists in all humans, no matter the race. Africans arent exempt.

 

[Arcturus]

Isn't it naive to think that things like top speed, strength, height, and explosiveness vary between races but then intelligence is just this pariah that can't be talked about? I call bs

It's because many physical advantages are in favor of Black people, and society has deemed it alright for that demographic to be prideful about their inherent advantages. Asians on the other hand are often the laughingstock of the rest of the world, and perhaps talking about their intelligence can be rather offputting at best or come off as arrogant boasting at worst. Don't get triggered if you're Black or Asian, that's just my two cents lmao.

 

[coping ethnic]

Honestly if you're at least above 70-75 (which makes you function in society), then you shouldn't worry about IQ.

Being 130+, I can confirm it's all looks... even in the work zone. People with a sub 115 IQ are doctors and engineers.

ppl with high IQ like u generally don't appreciate how lucky they got
someone with 70-75 can even work at McDonald's, how he supposed to make a living?
u need min 100 to have fulfilling work and life quality

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Who tf cares about IQ anyway, IQ is a cope for nerds

ppl with high IQ like u generally don't appreciate how lucky they got
someone with 70-75 can even work at McDonald's, how he supposed to make a living?
u need min 100 to have fulfilling work and life quality

IQ above 115 is essential for Moneymaxxing and therefore Surgery maxxing and Escortmaxxing

 

[Deleted member 9288]

IQ is genetics but can be increased to its full genetic potential just like height. Mainly genetic tho. but it really doesn't matter for you to have a high IQ unless you want to work for NASA or some shit which you usually wouldn't girls clearly don't give two shits about it so why bother

 

[MewingJBP]

fluid intelligence is all genetic

 

[Dutcher]

 

[Neurose]

Honestly if you're at least above 70-75 (which makes you functional in society), then you shouldn't worry about IQ.

Being 130+, I can confirm it's all looks... even in the work zone. People with a sub 115 IQ are doctors and engineers.

No. In a non female dominated work place there's no way you'll go up the hierarchy or be respected because you can't add significant value unless you have good intelligence. I can't take a good looking retard seriously and you clearly don't have a 130+ IQ.

 

[Uglybrazilian]

IQ is teracope girls dont give a flying fuck about your IQ why even bother about it tbh

 

[john2]

I can't take a good looking retard seriously and you clearly don't have a 130+ IQ.

I'm not gl. But I stg I scored 137 on Mensa (online).
Then some people told me that the online tests don't show your actual IQ (and your actual IQ is lower). Some people said the complete opposite. They said that I'll score more than 130 in an IRL MENSA test and that the online is harder. I can safely assume mine is 130+.

 

[Neurose]

I'm not gl. But I stg I scored 137 on Mensa (online).
Then some people told me that the online tests don't show your actual IQ (and your actual IQ is lower). Some people said the complete opposite. They said that I'll score more than 130 in an IRL MENSA test and that the online is harder. I can safely assume mine is 130+.

test.mensa.no?

 

[john2]

test.mensa.no?

I think it was this one. I did the test ages ago so can't remember which one it was. Why, what's your score?

 

[Neurose]

I think it was this one. I did the test ages ago so can't remember which one it was. Why, what's your score?

brb taking it

 

[Stare]

China is known for faking IQ tests, on average they are very dumb, hence why their country sucks despite the billions of people there.

 

[Deleted member 9090]

Old ass water is wet news tbh.

Don't tell or try to argue with @hairyballscel @reptiles and @africancel though. They will cope to unimaginable heights using cherry picked immigration studies or some other we wuz outdated studies somehow proving IQ doesn't matter (and instead is largerly environmental ). Or talk about how egypt was built by sub saharan africans.

JFL its over for IQ copers on this forum.

 

[hairyballscel]

I know this is very un-PC but that's why I love this forum. The current scientific literature shockingly shows the different races (race in the colloquial sense, although genetic distance is measurable) evolved VERY differently, as well as that human evolution is very much going on right now. It's been theorized that the increase in the IQ of Ashkenazi Jews came in the time period from 1600-1800.

• Sub-Saharan Africans didn't need IQ they needed low inib and what scientists call the "warrior gene" (Monoamine oxidase) which makes men more prideful and aggressive.
• East-Asians are scientifically the most well adapted to cold climates, where a bigger brain and higher IQ to use and make tools is a lot more important than low inib. (high inib helps u survive actually). Just look at their physical features - the mongoloid has shorter limbs, a flatter face, and more adipose tissue in their eye area to decrease the surface area to survive the cold. Wider faces were an adaptation to increase bite force to bite through frozen foods.

Isn't it naive to think that things like top speed, strength, height, and explosiveness vary between races but then intelligence is just this pariah that can't be talked about? I call bs

dog shit post when sub saharan africans made first human developments, try again

 

[manletofpeace81]

dog shit post when sub saharan africans made first human developments, try again

here we go again with dem copes

 

[Deleted member 6273]

Old ass water is wet news tbh.

Don't tell or try to argue with @hairyballscel @reptiles and @africancel though. They will cope to unimaginable heights using cherry picked immigration studies or some other we wuz outdated studies somehow proving IQ doesn't matter (and instead is largerly environmental ). Or talk about how egypt was built by sub saharan africans.

JFL its over for IQ copers on this forum.

I never said any we Wuz shit, especially unironically.

I challenged the methodology, testing and credibility of many of the studies done especially works of Murray.

China is known for faking IQ tests, on average they are very dumb, hence why their country sucks despite the billions of people there.

What a cope.

 

[Deleted member 9090]

I never said any we Wuz shit, especially unironically.

I challenged the methodology, testing and credibility of many of the studies done especially works of Murray.




What a cope.

@hairyballscel is the we wuz coper.

 

[Stare]

I never said any we Wuz shit, especially unironically.

I challenged the methodology, testing and credibility of many of the studies done especially works of Murray.




What a cope.

No cope at all my nigga

China is Cheating the World Student Rankings System | TIME.com

Enough is enough: Beijing must supply national data to assessors and not simply the results of a small minority of elite students

world.time.com

 

[Dutcher]

Chinese are stupid due to forced eugenics. The Chinese Communists killed everyone was educated. Literally purged society out of all high IQ DNA. The result is 1 billion retarded peasents

 

[Mingiuta]

evironment, trust me.. People on this site are smarter than your average guy.

 

[johncruz12345]

Old ass water is wet news tbh.

Don't tell or try to argue with @hairyballscel @reptiles and @africancel though. They will cope to unimaginable heights using cherry picked immigration studies or some other we wuz outdated studies somehow proving IQ doesn't matter (and instead is largerly environmental ). Or talk about how egypt was built by sub saharan africans.

JFL its over for IQ copers on this forum.

Nothing pisses me off more, than blacks claiming others peoples culture. They just cant cope with the fact that for 100000s of years, they legit have no worthwhile achievements.

They were even saying the asian kings were black. What the actual fuck.

 

[johncruz12345]

No cope at all my nigga

China is Cheating the World Student Rankings System | TIME.com

Enough is enough: Beijing must supply national data to assessors and not simply the results of a small minority of elite students

world.time.com

Most niggas here have no clue how smart chinese kids are. I would he considered "smart" within my school, but the local chinese kids are next level shit.

 

[hairyballscel]

What a cope.

tbh i've heard that they are very selective with there testing, they only test ppl from developed, well off regions so not very representative

just something i've heard, i havent looked into it so it could be bs

 

[Pillarman]

Askhenazi Jews mog everyone

truly superior people

 

[coping ethnic]

I mean 70-75 is literally retarded. You wouldn't have survived in the past either unless you worked some manual labor job. Automation and technological expansion is making it harder though and at the same time our societies encourage low IQ birth rates (child based welfare). Literal single moms with 10 kids can make 6 figures off welfare. As for IQ's importance I think people over state it a lot. Of course if your below 100 IQ your going to struggle but the same is true anywhere above 130+. Average income stops increasing linearly after 120s IQ range. At a certain point it will impede your social development which is as important (if not more in some cases). If your 130+ the average person is the equivalent of a retard. It would be like a 100 IQ person trying to relate with someone who is 70 IQ (literally retard/borderline). If your 110-125 your pretty much ideal. Your smart enough to do good in white collar jobs but not smart enough to overthink things.

it was a response to john2 for saying "after 75 iq it doesn't matter" JFL
I don't understand why ppl bring up ppl with 130+ who may have difficulty socializing, or overthinks
sub 100 ppl overthink or have trouble with socializing too, while not making half of the money 130 havers make lmao
like no one here is actually above 130 believe me, its 2.2% of the population, same rareness as being sub 70

ıq matters shit ton of, 68% of the population is btw 85-115 with is considered normal range,
even within that range, with every additional Iq points, life quality drastically increases.
half of the population is sub 100, if u think about it, their life is fucked bc of it
I'm not saying 130 IQ or death but rather if all of the ppl were at least 100 or even 110, we would be living in a different reality
poverty would be gone, for the most part, crime rates and happiness would increase, life quality would improve

115 is ideal imo

 

[coping ethnic]

> "after 75 iq it doesn't matter"
Alright yeah I agree that's stupid. Even the military's lowest standards are like 82 IQ. My main point would probably be any extreme is bad granted being 145 IQ is probably better then 75 IQ but they are both bad in different ways. Not saying this server is smart or anything but 2.2% of the population isn't as rare as you might think. Also you might be surprised when it comes to income of someone at 120 vs 130. It decreases or stagnates often after 120 in terms of income. Your also forgetting the one trait that IQ is useless without... which would be conscientiousness this trait with a decent IQ 110-125 will ensure most people who don't have anything else wrong with them will have a good life. Put simply I'd say these are the most important traits in life. Looks > Social ability( controllable to an extent)/status > IQ/conscientiousness > Wealth/luck(being born with connections or money). Sadly most important traits cannot be controlled. Put simply you probably need to at least be somewhat mediocre in 3 of these traits and good at one. If you are significantly bad in more then one of these traits more then likely your fucked.

I agree everything matters but most ppl are average in looks but half of the population is sub 100 which equals low-paying jobs and low-quality life.
Iq helps with money, then helps with surgerymaxxing so u can ascend ur looks with ur IQ but not the other way around
also, high Iq will make u less interested in looking good bc u will get validation with whatever u do, u will have status.
Zuckerberg or Bezos doesn't gaf about their looks, why would they

 

[Deleted member 9090]

> "after 75 iq it doesn't matter"
Alright yeah I agree that's stupid. Even the military's lowest standards are like 82 IQ. My main point would probably be any extreme is bad granted being 145 IQ is probably better then 75 IQ but they are both bad in different ways. Not saying this server is smart or anything but 2.2% of the population isn't as rare as you might think. Also you might be surprised when it comes to income of someone at 120 vs 130. It decreases or stagnates often after 120 in terms of income. Your also forgetting the one trait that IQ is useless without... which would be conscientiousness this trait with a decent IQ 110-125 will ensure most people who don't have anything else wrong with them will have a good life. Put simply I'd say these are the most important traits in life. Looks > Social ability( controllable to an extent)/status > IQ/conscientiousness > Wealth/luck(being born with connections or money). Sadly most important traits cannot be controlled. Put simply you probably need to at least be somewhat mediocre in 3 of these traits and good at one. If you are significantly bad in more then one of these traits more then likely your fucked.

''Normie'' 80 IQ wont impact your personal life as much as it does a whole civilization, but its still important in your personal life and ultimately defines a big part of who you become. But IQ is extremely important in a societal aspect. This is because IQ is a bellcurve, it means that low IQ countries have a super small amount of high IQ people that are needed for a complex society such as the west to function. The succes of a society is for a large part determined by the average IQ of that society, as the people created that society. And when you lack critical thinkers of that time, knowledgeable leaders etc, you will never evolve into something great as seen in the west. This is why africa struggles to ''catch up'' even with hundreds and millions in aid.

 

[Soalian]

Lol while you're engaging in useless debates about who's the smartest, Chad is fucking your oneitis as we speak.

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

iq is depended on education and especially math that's why sub saharan countries which are underdeveloped do so poorly.
that's what my sis said atleast.

 

[Pillarman]

iq is depended on education and especially math that's why sub saharan countries which are underdeveloped do so poorly.
that's what my sis said atleast.

nope
they are underdeveloped because they are low iq

 

[BigBoy]

Studies show 60-70% of iq is genetic, and in some studies as high as 80%, while the remaining portion is environmental, such as: nutrition, stable household, etc. That's why the west has had an increase in iq while other developing parts of the world have lower iqs.

But that begs the question: if we can acknowledge that blacks are more athletic, whites have more mental illnesses, and things of that nature, why is iq the only one that is supposedly the same among various races?

It could be, it might not be. The studies use to show the iq of various parts of the world are suspect in that we do not know who they surveyed(e.g. they picked intelligent people from Finland, but impoverished people in South Africa). There should be more research done into the matter than trusting alt-rightists who have an agenda to downplay other races.

 

[manletofpeace81]

why is iq the only one that is supposedly the same among various races?

a nigger growing up in europe(france not included) will score higher than a nigga from subsaharian africa, thats the problem with muh iq

 

[manletofpeace81]

Zuck or Bezos

bad examples bro, one stole the idea and the other literally was making an online bookstore... both ideas did exist before

 

[BigBoy]

a nigger growing up in europe(france not included) will score higher than a nigga from subsaharian africa, thats the problem with muh iq

I was not saying that it isnt the same among races, neither was I saying that it wasnt,

Thats the issue, if we look at the studies showing the iqs of blacks growing up in the west vs Africa, its only like 80 vs 60/70.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

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So true lmao, dummies reach the truth because they follow instincts rather than thinking. Very High IQ people are logical enough to figure out the truth with their brain, and everybody in-between seems to just cope (95 to 120 iq seems to be biggest predictor of liberal SJW political opinions, except in ethnics who instinctively follow their own self interest)

 

[Deleted member 7076]

IQ is cope
just be social and good looking and you will be better off than a high IQ person who can't socialise and ugly even if he has more money

 

[manletofpeace81]

in the west vs Africa

what do you mean by in "the west" because american hoods are no better than subsharan africa, no fathers no quality education and criminal mentality, ofcourse they will perform poorly in iq test... i need to see nigroes in holland or denmark or any serious country were these have the same oportunities

 

[coping ethnic]

Do you think even 99.9% of smart people will ever have a shot to be like Zuck or Bezos? They will most likely work under someone who is more stupid but has status. As long as you aren't below 110 which is the average for most college students. IQ is not a huge problem (in terms of negatively affecting your life.)

of course not, I gave them just as an example of not very good looking intelligent ppl

nope
they are underdeveloped because they are low iq

its feeding each other
Already low iq and poverty -->malnurishment--> low iq continues in the next generation

 

[BigBoy]

what do you mean by in "the west" because american hoods are no better than subsharan africa, no fathers no quality education and criminal mentality, ofcourse they will perform poorly in iq test... i need to see nigroes in holland or denmark or any serious country were these have the same oportunities

That is a fair point. As I said there needs to be a better study conducted to evaluate the iq of various countries than the one currently used.

 

[coping ethnic]

IQ is 60-80% genetic.

remaining 40-20% is still making a huge difference
if poor countries could fix their diet, generations would improve

 

[Deleted member 2632]

IQ is literally the most important hing

WHAT THE FUCK IS THE COPE IN HERE

IQ is the difference between being stuck in the stone age and being in an advanced civilization

IQ is the difference between an advanced army with future weapons coming in your territory and wiping you all out and raping your women

Ask the Native Americans how important IQ is, the difference between extinction and survival

 

[coping ethnic]

Of course they do in starving countries. But we can see clear in Western countries blacks IQ ranges don't even come within a standard deviation of whites. This was true even with adoption/twin studies. I hate to say it but maybe if a trend repeats itself for thousands of years its not mere bad luck.

its not just starving countries, for example, India fucked their genetics for thousands of years due to protein deficiency and arranged marriages, bc of that they're ugly and short
IQ is like height
u have a genetic range of potential
u can maximize the value with a good environment, from the womb to teens everything matters
when u do this for generations it will come close to whites
even if it doesn't, the difference will be from an African country to a developing one

 

[SkinjobCatastrophe]

China is known for faking IQ tests, on average they are very dumb, hence why their country sucks despite the billions of people there.

China is definitely not all that reliable with data but when chinese immigrants go to other countries they still score higher on iq tests than the americans or australians or the british. They have a high IQ but it doesnt mean theyre going to have a country where everyone is happy and everything works perfectly. Thats why everyone in china has smartphones with super fast internet access even out in the middle of nowhere and they can fix their super advanced computer controlled cars but they still shit in the streets and drink herbs to try to cure their diseases. Its also different in different areas of the iq test. Chinese score remarkably high on spacial reasoning but everything else they score below the europeans.