Is @rabbicurry mf copinf when he says that 20%bf to 12%bf is a bigger jump then 30%bf to 20%bf

[Erik-Jón]

@RabidRosaries

I think it’s cope

 

[intovoid]

12% is when most ppl's abs show even when unflexed so no

 

[Erik-Jón]

12% is when most ppl's abs show even when unflexed so no

Still sounds like cope

 

[racoon4]

I agree, you would look completely different at 12% as opposed to 20.

 

[Gandy]

He isn't coping. You will look completely different facially 12% vs 20% even if you think you look good and 'normal' at 20% with a bit of pudginess.
Cheekbones, jawline, soft features truly pop at 10-12%.

30% vs 20% isn't as big of a difference. A man is more or less ugly at both.

 

[Erik-Jón]

He isn't coping. You will look completely different facially 12% vs 20% even if you think you look good and 'normal' at 20% with a bit of pudginess.
Cheekbones, jawline, soft features truly pop at sub 13%.

I like that sound of that

 

[Pakicel]

He isn't coping. You will look completely different facially 12% vs 20% even if you think you look good and 'normal' at 20% with a bit of pudginess.
Cheekbones, jawline, soft features truly pop at 10-12%.

30% vs 20% isn't as big of a difference. A man is more or less ugly at both.

Nah. Good bones are visible even at 25% bf. Ask @volcelfatcel and @StreegeReturn

 

[volcelfatcel]

Nah. Good bones are visible even at 25% bf. Ask @volcelfatcel and @StreegeReturn

Yes
I always had bones popping when I was much much fatter

 

[Erik-Jón]

Yes
I always had bones popping when I was much much fatter

Yeah I’m pretty fat rn and I still have okay bones like protruding cheekbones visable gonians/ramus but still not great

 

[Pakicel]

Yes
I always had bones popping when I was much much fatter

Are your parents really gl? Or have impressive bone structure? Or was it because you chewed hard food and didn't mouthbreath growing up? And how was your facial development not fucked by being fat while growing up? Doesn't being fat lower T?

 

[Pakicel]

Yeah I’m pretty fat rn and I still have okay bones like protruding cheekbones visable gonians/ramus but still not great

Yeah. Lose weight. And you will ascend.

 

[Erik-Jón]

Nah. Good bones are visible even at 25% bf. Ask @volcelfatcel and @StreegeReturn

What’s my bf rn?

 

[volcelfatcel]

Are your parents really gl?

my mother ya, my dad not so much

Or was it because you chewed hard food and didn't mouthbreath growing up?

I have chewed gum since i was 5-6 and have never done mouthbreathing idk if it matters tho

And how was your facial development not fucked by being fat while growing up? Doesn't being fat lower T?

did nothing for my development, zero

 

[Pakicel]

What’s my bf rn?
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Probably over 25% bf. You are fat af dude. Lose weight ASAP.

 

[Erik-Jón]

Are your parents really gl? Or have impressive bone structure? Or was it because you chewed hard food and didn't mouthbreath growing up? And how was your facial development not fucked by being fat while growing up? Doesn't being fat lower T?

I can speak from my own experience I don’t have top tier bones but like I never have mouth breathed and my my dads side of my family all has giga chad bones, also I’m endomorphic so maybe my bones are thicker or something, chewed a lot of gum my whole life because of baseball, obviously ate a lot and a lot of hard food.

 

[Pakicel]

I can speak from my own experience I don’t have top tier bones but like I never have mouth breathed and my my dads side of my family all has giga chad bones, also I’m endomorphic so maybe my bones are thicker or something

It's just genetic recombination tbh. Sometimes you might get all the good or bad traits from one or both parents. Also, minor things like not being breastfed can affect your development as well.

 

[Erik-Jón]

It's just genetic recombination tbh. Sometimes you might get all the good or bad traits from one or both parents. Also, minor things like not being breastfed can affect your development as well.

Also to note I look nothing like my parents and have a completely different pheno and colouring then both

 

[epictroll]

After 18% body fat, the gains to the face are extremely negligible. I have no idea why PSL autists think they're going to become aesthetic gods by becoming anorexics, this is an old belief that has existed for years and has to die. A lot of incels are already anorexic to begin with.

If you don't have bones, you don't have bones.

Good bones are visible from as high as 25% body fat.

 

[Pakicel]

Also to note I look nothing like my parents and have a completely different pheno and colouring then both

That is weird tbh. I don't look much like my dad. But you can tell I am related to my mother. I got her skin tone, hair, skull shape, nasal base etc.

 

[Erik-Jón]

That is weird tbh. I don't look much like my dad. But you can tell I am related to my mother. I got her skin tone, hair, skull shape, nasal base etc.

I have some traits from both but like my eyes and cheekbones are completely different my bones structure isn’t even close to similer to either of them

 

[Pakicel]

After 18% body fat, the gains to the face are extremely negligible. I have no idea why PSL autists think they're going to become aesthetic gods by becoming anorexics, this is an old belief that has existed for years and has to die.

A lot of incels are already anorexic to begin with. If you don't have bones, you don't have bones.

Good bones are visible from as high as 25% body fat.

This. You don't go from having from flat zygos to mogger ones just by starving yourself. The structure of your face is clearly visible if you are not morbidly obese.

 

[Erik-Jón]

That is weird tbh. I don't look much like my dad. But you can tell I am related to my mother. I got her skin tone, hair, skull shape, nasal base etc.

I mean I have some similer things like I have my dads eye shape with more pfl and a downward canthis and pct and lighter colour, and unlike him have low low set brows and hooding while his are hooding but doesn’t have that low set brows

 

[Pakicel]

I mean I have some similer things like I have my dads eye shape with more pfl and a downward canthis and pct and lighter colour, and unlike him have low low set brows and hooding while his are hooding but doesn’t have that low set brows

Where are you from btw?

 

[Erik-Jón]

Where are you from btw?

Canada

 

[Erik-Jón]

@Pakicel this was me turbo Terra giga subhuman levels of fat lmao

Miren

 

[volcelfatcel]

This. You don't go from having from flat zygos to mogger ones just by starving yourself. The structure of your face is clearly visible if you are not morbidly obese.

I think there are gains to be had if you go past 18% i disagree entirely with that sentiment but its only for the ones that already show bones at higher BF. you are never showing bone if you didnt have it in the 1st place.

I have hollow cheeks before having my abs show and i still have a decent amount of fat in my abdominal area

 

[Pakicel]

I think there are gains to be had if you go past 18% i disagree entirely with that sentiment but its only for the ones that already show bones at higher BF. you are never showing bone if you didnt have it in the 1st place.

I have hollow cheeks before having my abs show and i still have a decent amount of fat in my abdominal area

Leanmaxxing is still important as any implants/fillers you get are ineffective if there is fat covering your bones. Getting surgery at 25% bf is a terrible idea imo.

 

[Deleted member 16133]

What’s my bf rn?
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damn nigga your face looks lean as fuck with a bit of fat on your stomach
that means you have good face fat genetics for when u lean out
you dont look bad tho tbh but youll really shine once uleanmaxx for sure

 

[volcelfatcel]

Leanmaxxing is still important as any implants/fillers you get are ineffective if there is fat covering your bones. Getting surgery at 25% bf is a terrible idea imo.

if your bones dont stretch the skin at 18-20% they wont stretch it at 12% either

 

[Erik-Jón]

if your bones dont stretch the skin at 18-20% they wont stretch them at 12% either

That’s some brutal shit for leanmax copers

 

[Pakicel]

if your bones dont stretch the skin at 18-20% they wont stretch them at 12% either

I know. That's where osteotomies/implants/fillers come in. Surgeries won't give you chad bones but they can fix deficiencies in your facial development.

 

[Erik-Jón]

@volcelfatcel is there anyway to really know if you’ll have hollow cheeks lean, rn I sorta have them but it’s more of a ogee curve then a actual hollow cheek look

 

[Pakicel]

That’s some brutal shit for leanmax copers

Nah. Leanmaxxing is still important even if your bones aren't the best. Having a lean muscular body is a big halo.

 

[volcelfatcel]

@volcelfatcel is there anyway to really know if you’ll have hollow cheeks lean, rn I sorta have them but it’s more of a ogee curve then a actual hollow cheek look

you cant tell, i just got hollowing early since i dont store much fat in my face and my bones just stretch the skin enough
once im sub 70kg it will be even more prominent

 

[Pakicel]

@volcelfatcel is there anyway to really know if you’ll have hollow cheeks lean, rn I sorta have them but it’s more of a ogee curve then a actual hollow cheek look

Just lose weight dude. Why are you overthinking this? From tomorrow, get on 1000 calorie diet and walk/jog at least 5 km every single day. You will drop the fat pretty quickly.

 

[Pakicel]

if your bones dont stretch the skin at 18-20% they wont stretch it at 12% either

I don' think it is just fat. Some ethnics just have these thick soft tissues covering their bones so they always look bloated even at 12% bf. Like take Gaia262 for example.

 

[Erik-Jón]

you cant tell, i just got hollowing early since i dont store much fat in my face and my bones just stretch the skin enough
once im sub 70kg it will be even more prominent

This is mine rn looks like shit imo looks bloated asf

 

[Deleted member 14160]

I know. That's where osteotomies/implants/fillers come in. Surgeries won't give you chad bones but they can fix deficiencies in your facial development.

Fillers and implants never not look uncanny on a normie tho only works for subhumans

 

[Erik-Jón]

Just lose weight dude. Why are you overthinking this? From tomorrow, get on 1000 calorie diet and walk/jog at least 5 km every single day. You will drop the fat pretty quickly.

I’ll stunt my growth fr on that diet

 

[volcelfatcel]

I don' think it is just fat. Some ethnics just have these thick soft tissues covering their bones so they always look bloated even at 12% bf. Like take Gaia262 for example.

gaia got bimax
he never had bones in the 1stplace
thick skin is utter cope

 

[Pakicel]

Fillers and implants never not look uncanny on a normie tho only works for subhumans

Depends tbh. The key is to be conservative really. I honestly just want an improvement over what I currently have. I am not chasing chad looks.

 

[Erik-Jón]

Depends tbh. The key is to be conservative really. I honestly just want an improvement over what I currently have. I am not chasing chad looks.

No body should, I’m happy being a htn

 

[Pakicel]

gaia got bimax
he never had bones in the 1stplace
thick skin is utter cope

Nah. Thick skin is not cope. It does not matter how good your bones are, if there is too much soft tissue covering those bones, you won't have any angularity at all.

Obviously, you can't expect to get chad bones from surgery. That isn't the point. He got bimax to fix craniofacial issues.

 

[Erik-Jón]

Nah. Thick skin is not cope. It does not matter how good your bones are, if there is too much soft tissue covering those bones, you won't have any angularity at all.

Obviously, you can't expect to get chad bones from surgery. That isn't the point. He got bimax to fix craniofacial issues.

I’m pretty sure I have thin skin is that bad or good?

 

[Pakicel]

No body should, I’m happy being a htn

Yeah. It is not realistic for most anyway. I would be very happy to reach HTN as well.

 

[Pakicel]

I’m pretty sure I have thin skin is that bad or good?

Good thing for angularity and facial definition. Bad for aging.

 

[volcelfatcel]

Nah. Thick skin is not cope. It does not matter how good your bones are, if there is too much soft tissue covering those bones, you won't have any angularity at all.

Obviously, you can't expect to get chad bones from surgery. That isn't the point. He got bimax to fix craniofacial issues.

thick skin is complete cope, @SubhumanCurrycel is south asian and he doesnt suffer from bloating
its a lack of bones

gaia never had bones, have you even seen his side profile jfl

 

[Erik-Jón]

Good thing for angularity and facial definition. Bad for aging.

My dad has the same skin as me and looks 25 still but he also has gigachad bones

 

[Pakicel]

thick skin is complete cope, @SubhumanCurrycel is south asian and he doesnt suffer from bloating
its a lack of bones

gaia never had bones, have you even seen his side profile jfl

Yes. He did not have good bones. He was recessed ffs. But even after moving his jaws forward and getting zygo implants, he still has bloated look to his face due to his fat distribution or skin type IDK. If he had thin skin, the implants would show a lot more.

 

[volcelfatcel]

Yes. He did not have good bones. He was recessed ffs. But even after moving his jaws forward and getting zygo implants, he still has bloated look to his face due to his fat distribution or skin type IDK. If he had thin skin, the implants would show a lot more.

no its because a surgery giving great results is a cope for subhumans here
all the insane results are few and most get mediocre results at best and boches like his who give him an insane upturn to his nose

thick skin is extreme amounts of cope thats a myth people use to excuse their lack of bones