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These cuts are made so high that its literally shorten nasal base. This surgery has potencial to shorten midface because you literally remove so much bone. Results would be drastic. But I dont know how you will breathin after surgery. Btw unless you have gummy smile this surgery would be useless. But dont worry maybe corona will kill you soon eventually if New World Worder will rise and they murder 90% of population. You wont suffer longer.
 
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These cuts are made so high that its literally shorten nasal base. This surgery has potencial to shorten midface because you literally remove so much bone. Results would be drastic. But I dont know how you will breathin after surgery. Btw unless you have gummy smile this surgery would be useless. But dont worry maybe corona will kill you soon eventually if New World Worder will rise and they murder 90% of population. You wont suffer longer.

This procedure called maxillary impaction is useful only if u have gummy smile, but it don’t short your midface. Long midface is death sentence and can’t be fixed
 
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This procedure called maxillary impaction is useful only if u have gummy smile, but it don’t short your midface. Long midface is death sentence and can’t be fixed
Cope, its not long midface.
It's lack of facial width. Facial width can be improved.
 
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Cope, its not long midface.
It's lack of facial width. Facial width can be improved.
Facial widht can be improved in many ways, but midface can’t be shortened, especially if u have long nose. That’s unfixable
 
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Facial widht can be improved in many ways, but midface can’t be shortened, especially if u have long nose. That’s unfixable
rhino can shorten a nose a little, not much but its something.
 
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Facial widht can be improved in many ways, but midface can’t be shortened, especially if u have long nose. That’s unfixable
Most people have midface lenght in normal range.
They just lack facial width which makes their face look elongated.
See 2009 Chico
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He had way narrower face which made it look longer.
Now 2012 Chico
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Wider face and now it looks way more compact.
 
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Facial widht can be improved in many ways, but midface can’t be shortened, especially if u have long nose. That’s unfixable
I still do not know why long midface is unfixable and what cause it Btw I literally wrote in a thread that its useless unless you have gummy smile.
 
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Most people have midface lenght in normal range.
They just lack facial width which makes their face look elongated.
See 2009 Chico
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He had way narrower face which made it look longer.
Now 2012 Chico
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Wider face and now it looks way more compact.
MSE is perfect for long midfacecels in every way. everyone should be getting it.
 
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Most people have midface lenght in normal range.
They just lack facial width which makes their face look elongated.
See 2009 Chico
View attachment 325693
He had way narrower face which made it look longer.
Now 2012 Chico
View attachment 325694
Wider face and now it looks way more compact.
Maybe testosterone or surgery but I dont think that models can get plastic surgeries. They even cant dye their hair
 
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MSE is perfect for long midfacecels in every way. everyone should be getting it.
yeah pretty much
if u notice that u have longish midface as teen then do its as soon as its possible
 
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MSE is perfect for long midfacecels in every way. everyone should be getting it.
MSE is really good but combinated with face mask to move upward is perfect.
 
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ITS ALL ABOUT EXTREMELY ADVANCED MAXILLA
Advanced maxilla
 
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MSE is really good but combinated with face mask to move upward is perfect.
your face will shorten with the face mask, also bimax could help too with ccw rotation. Itll help shorten it some as well.
 
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Maybe testosterone or surgery but I dont think that models can get plastic surgeries. They even cant dye their hair
Its normal that face gains in width in your late teens, early 20s.
Same with Ian Somerhalder in his youth
he was narrow faced fuck
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But his face masculinized and became wider in his 20s
he peaked in 2006 during "Pulse" movie
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Was looking fucking amazing.
 
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I pray to God to shorten my midface cause I found my pictures when I was 14 and my midface ratio was 1.15 and my FWHR was 1.85. I fell in love with myself. Those days are gone. ARE GOOOOOOONEEEEEEEEE
 
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your face will shorten with the face mask, also bimax could help too with ccw rotation. Itll help shorten it some as well.
Bimax with ccw don’t shorten midface, stop coping. I had it
 
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Did it degreed your gonial angle ?
The gonial angle is still the same, is the rest of the face that more upward and foreard than before and make the angle look better
I still do not know why long midface is unfixable and what cause it Btw I literally wrote in a thread that its useless unless you have gummy smile.
Long midface is caused by genetics and mouthbreathing during childhood/puberty. It’s unfixable cause you should export an entire part of your skull to shorten it, and that’s impossible. The only thing u can do to fraud a long mid is widen the face with MSE, cheekbone implants, gonial angle implants, and lip lifts if you have a long philtrum.
 
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The gonial angle is still the same, is the rest of the face that more upward and foreard than before and make the angle look better

Long midface is caused by genetics and mouthbreathing during childhood/puberty. It’s unfixable cause you should export an entire part of your skull to shorten it, and that’s impossible. The only thing u can do to fraud a long mid is widen the face with MSE, cheekbone implants, gonial angle implants, and lip lifts if you have a long philtrum.
It can be elongated so it also can be shortened
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But success with shortening depends on many factors few being puberty, supplements and bone density
 
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It can be elongated so it also can be shortened
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But success with shortening depends on many factors few being puberty, supplements and bone density
Keep coping with mewing, supplements and that shit. As an adult is impossible to shorten the midface, i know that’s hard pill to swallow, i have long mid my self and if there was a way to fix it i would it, but there isn’t
 
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MSE is perfect for long midfacecels in every way. everyone should be getting it.
Do you have any before and after pictures? The only mse result is ronald eads. I cant believe in mse, before i see proof.
 
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Most people have midface lenght in normal range.
They just lack facial width which makes their face look elongated.
See 2009 Chico
View attachment 325693
He had way narrower face which made it look longer.
Now 2012 Chico
View attachment 325694
Wider face and now it looks way more compact.
I dont get it how people think that FWHR doesnt play a role in midface length perception. Literally everyone would look like a horse if he had narrow skull and no lower third
 
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Do you have any before and after pictures? The only mse result is ronald eads. I cant believe in mse, before i see proof.
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aparrently this was an MSE case. notice her increase in IPD and PFL+cheekbones
 
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not sure, but looking at the results, its enough to be noticeable.
I measured on screen, 14.5 mm before 16 mm after, but we need some autist that translates that into actually useful information
 
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I measured on screen, 14.5 mm before 16 mm after, but we need some autist that translates that into actually useful information
1-2 mm increase is insane if legit. THis is pure lifefuel for me.
 
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Its normal that face gains in width in your late teens, early 20s.
Same with Ian Somerhalder in his youth
he was narrow faced fuck
View attachment 325697
But his face masculinized and became wider in his 20s
he peaked in 2006 during "Pulse" movie
View attachment 325698

Was looking fucking amazing.
It is definitely not normal for your face to gain width as you get older you dumbfuck. If anything it gets longer because of gravity and laws of physics unless you correct your tongue posture. Never try to prove a point with models/actors because almost ALL of them get work done on their face (it is part of their livelihood), they just don't "magically" gain facial width LMFAO :lul: :lul:
 
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It is definitely not normal for your face to gain width as you get older you dumbfuck. If anything it gets longer because of gravity and laws of physics unless you correct your tongue posture. Never try to prove a point with models/actors because almost ALL of them get work done on their face (it is part of their livelihood), they just don't "magically" gain facial width LMFAO :lul: :lul:
People do... Bone mass is at it's peak in the mid 20s, so obviously width will increase until then
 
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It is definitely not normal for your face to gain width as you get older you dumbfuck. If anything it gets longer because of gravity and laws of physics unless you correct your tongue posture. Never try to prove a point with models/actors because almost ALL of them get work done on their face (it is part of their livelihood), they just don't "magically" gain facial width LMFAO :lul: :lul:
Ofc as always some stupid gaycel... sorry greycel who browsed PSL for a while and thinks that he knows everything.
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Just one graph from some study. You can clearly see that facial width increases till 30s. You can do your own research (but honestly doubt you will since u didnt bother to attack someone without knowing a shit) and there is a lot studies which proved that people gain in facial width with age because bone mass is still increasing.
 
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Ofc as always some stupid gaycel... sorry greycel who browsed PSL for a while and thinks that he knows everything.
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Just one graph from some study. You can clearly see that facial width increases till 30s. You can do your own research (but honestly doubt you will since u didnt bother to attack someone without knowing a shit) and there is a lot studies which proved that people gain in facial width with age because bone mass is still increasing.
Notice how after 20 the rate of increase is (20-35).33mm/y compared to (5-20)1.33mm/y during puberty. The original point I was trying to make is that after puberty you don't see significant changes in bizygomatic distance without surgery. Thinking that the actor you linked increased his bizygomatic distance with time is a greycel moment. And your face does get longer as you age https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25278108
 
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Notice how after 20 the rate of increase is (20-35).33mm/y compared to (5-20)1.33mm/y during puberty. The original point I was trying to make is that after puberty you don't see significant changes in bizygomatic distance without surgery. Thinking that the actor you linked increased his bizygomatic distance with time is a greycel moment. And your face does get longer as you age https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25278108
Yeah sure face lenght increases with age but i doubt it will increase at age of 20. It happens later when we lose bone mass and density.
 
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Ofc as always some stupid gaycel... sorry greycel who browsed PSL for a while and thinks that he knows everything.
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Just one graph from some study. You can clearly see that facial width increases till 30s. You can do your own research (but honestly doubt you will since u didnt bother to attack someone without knowing a shit) and there is a lot studies which proved that people gain in facial width with age because bone mass is still increasing.
Yeah this is true i wondered why my byzygomatic width is subhumanly low while still having decent fwhr ~1.75-8
View attachment 325782 aparrently this was an MSE case. notice her increase in IPD and PFL+cheekbones
This is not a mse result
 
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life fuel
 
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Most people have midface lenght in normal range.
They just lack facial width which makes their face look elongated.
See 2009 Chico
View attachment 325693
He had way narrower face which made it look longer.
Now 2012 Chico
View attachment 325694
Wider face and now it looks way more compact.
I don’t have long midface but a narrow face, how do I get wider face?
 
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This procedure called maxillary impaction is useful only if u have gummy smile, but it don’t short your midface. Long midface is death sentence and can’t be fixed
bizogonial width increase can fix it up as well as zygo osteomny pal
 
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is that it?

Wdym is that it? It’s one method of widening the midface. I plan on doing it myself after MSE and given that you visually seem to have a narrower face than I do, it will probably benefit you also.
 
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is that it?
increase bizoggonial width with implants, If I remeber correctly you had a decent side profile. Can you send another picture, if you get a ccw rotation it will look good if u have a shit hyoid angle, also wrap around implant.
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@cyberjap, this is mse results. If you cant get that get wrap around jaw implant.
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increase bizoggonial width with implants, If I remeber correctly you had a decent side profile. Can you send another picture, if you get a ccw rotation it will look good if u have a shit hyoid angle, also wrap around implant.
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@cyberjap, this is mse results. If you cant get that get wrap around jaw implant.
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I need Botox for my jaw muscles, is this going to looksmin me?
 
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I need Botox for my jaw muscles, is this going to looksmin me?
wtf bro wtf is a botox just get an implant
experiment with some fillers first tho
 
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These cuts are made so high that its literally shorten nasal base. This surgery has potencial to shorten midface because you literally remove so much bone. Results would be drastic. But I dont know how you will breathin after surgery. Btw unless you have gummy smile this surgery would be useless. But dont worry maybe corona will kill you soon eventually if New World Worder will rise and they murder 90% of population. You wont suffer longer.

Shit thread OP
 

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