ise MSE even worth it before bimax

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honestly that would be useless in my case if it doesnt make bizygo wider

i guess i should just keep this money for bimax
but i need to wait 1.5 year before i end high school so idk what to do at this point

 

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[Deleted member 2100]

mashallah bhai based and JBCpilled

 

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[aspieSavage]

Mse is not worth it. Unless narrow palatecel

 

[87878787878787]

Mse is not worth it. Unless narrow palatecel

is there any hope for narrow facecel?

 

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honestly that would be useless in my case if it doesnt make bizygo wider

i guess i should just keep this money for bimax
but i need to wait 1.5 year before i end high school so idk what to do at this point

it does make Bizygomatic width increase its been proven by people on thegreatwork, Won Moon's papers at UCLA and Ronald Eads results

 

[forwardgrowth]

if you want to improve your 3/4th by a small degree
and vastly improve your airway yes, if not NO

 

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it does make Bizygomatic width increase its been proven by people on thegreatwork, Won Moon's papers at UCLA and Ronald Eads results

idk so many diifferent opinions bro

 

[Deleted member 8583]

idk so many diifferent opinions bro

who said it doesn't increase width? if ur suture splits successfully (which it will since ur under 20 years old), MSE will 100% increase ur width

 

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Surgery is kinda cope tbh, there's 2 guys in the best of the best section that got surgeries and basically looked the same jfl

 

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who said it doesn't increase width? if ur suture splits successfully (which it will since ur under 20 years old), MSE will 100% increase ur width

i guess ill try it cause i gotta wait over 1 year for bimax anyway
i mean i got nothing to lose so

 

[prurient]

Can you breath thru yr nose?

 

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Can you breath thru yr nose?

barely, doctor said my nose is really "tight"
i gotta keep it clean 24/7 if i wanna breath through it

 

[prurient]

When you say tight, do you mean yr turbinates pretty much stuck together and/or swollen? and when you say clean, do you have to constantly use nasal spray? or humidifier? or (breathing) vaporizer?

things to consider:
also have you been checked for polyps?
do you have deviated septum? (large amount of ppl r deviated tbh so its a matter of degree of how much, and how that affects breathing, for example i am still deviated w slight bone spur postmse but it no longer effects breathing and can breath perfectly thru nose)

Are you already wide bizygomatically?
how is your ES Ratio?

 

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When you say tight, do you mean yr turbinates pretty much stuck together and/or swollen? and when you say clean, do you have to constantly use nasal spray? or humidifier? or (breathing) vaporizer?

idk ive been just told that theres not really any place in my nose and yes

things to consider:
also have you been checked for polyps?
do you have deviated septum? (large amount of ppl r deviated tbh so its a matter of degree of how much, and how that affects breathing, for example i am still deviated w slight bone spur postmse but it no longer effects breathing and can breath perfectly thru nose)

Are you already wide bizygomatically?
how is your ES Ratio?

yeah i got deviated septum genetically, my mom and sister got it too so that may be a case however my nose is also thin so idk

about es ratio and bizygoma

thats the case thats what i need the most my biggest failo from front is lack of wideness in my zygoma and es ratio of ąround 1.7 but i calculated in paint so

thats what i need to fix or my whole looksmaxing journey will become one big cope i was literally considering zygo implants after bimax

 

[prurient]

implants for anterior projection, no? or for width as well?

 

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implants for anterior projection, no? or for width as well?

both or over

 

[prurient]

if youre narrow bizygomatically and you cant breath nasally, and you dont have polyps, then maybe consider MSE w reverse pull head gear wearing 24/7 if possible while also hard mewing...

but talk to yr mse provider at length about your goals and what are your options, how much you want to expand how mse will affect balance of your face...(if you feel that its necessary to get yr provider to take you more seriously, get yr parents involved, ask hella questions, take notes, repeat your doctors words back to them, as doctors sometimes say things that arent completely true since mse is still "experimental" )

if your gonna do bimax later anyway, dont over expand unless necessary, and also dont expect to breath perfectly right away since expansion causes alot of inflammation (when I had expanded almost 7-8mms i still had trouble breathing due to inflammation)

 

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if youre narrow bizygomatically and you cant breath nasally, and you dont have polyps, then maybe consider MSE w reverse pull head gear wearing 24/7 if possible while also hard mewing...

but talk to yr mse provider at length about your goals and what are your options, how much you want to expand how mse will affect balance of your face...(if you feel that its necessary to get yr provider to take you more seriously, get yr parents involved, ask hella questions, take notes, repeat your doctors words back to them, as doctors sometimes say things that arent completely true since mse is still "experimental" )

if your gonna do bimax later anyway, dont over expand unless necessary, and also dont expect to breath perfectly right away since expansion causes alot of inflammation (when I had expanded almost 7-8mms i still had trouble breathing due to inflammation)

you had MSE?
can I pm you?

 

[prurient]

you had MSE?
can I pm you?

yes

 

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yes

k gimme a minute

 

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[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

Mse is not worth it. Unless narrow palatecel

well 99% of people are narrow palatecels

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

barely, doctor said my nose is really "tight"
i gotta keep it clean 24/7 if i wanna breath through it

do it.

 

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do it.

its already decided i will
thanks tho