Reoreyh
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Other thread: https://looksmax.org/threads/is-this-shit-salvageable-pics-and-cephs.407409/
Finally got my consultation with my surgeon a few weeks before my BSSO. While I am going through with it, I'm fucked. Totally fucked. 3 years of braces and $15,000 later and my problems are not going to be solved. I don't know what I'm going to do after my recovery is over and I see what I look like - because that'll be my looks cap. Suicide fuel for sure.
Turns out, my fate was set in stone the moment we started doing orthodontics. I don't understand how I failed to grasp or understand this, but I fucked up. After seeing my occlusal plane and ceph before and after braces, I realised that my surgery plan cannot be changed or altered in any way. No amount of data, desire, or money can change the fact that my pre-surgery orthodontics set me up for a result that is 100% functional and in no way will impact my appearance. I cannot receive any sort of jaw rotation, lefort, downgraft, or ANYTHING except a 7mm linear advancement of the mandible - I'm fucking devastated.
For those that don't know, pre surgery braces are done to bring the teeth to a predictable location for a surgical jaw advancement. The position of the teeth, especially horizontally, determines the amount of forward movement. So in my case, all they did was straighten the teeth and rotate a few canines to slide my bottom jaw up to them. No compensation for any sort of vertical movement or rotation. And there's no going back and "undoing" this orthodontic work to make another procedure viable.
I have a short face and chin with overbite AND overjet. My gonial angle is like 110'. I will gain ZERO lower third height and chin projection from this movement. I will gain ZERO profile forward growth as even the smallest passive jut I do every day far exceeds the advancement I'll be receiving. Absolutely nothing is going to change about the way I look. And the best part? This isn't even going to fix my fucking functional problems. Because we aren't rotating the mandible in any way, my molars STILL won't touch when he does the advancement. He insists ortho fixation will solve this problem post surgery - but all that means is that the pressure from my elastics will be enough to move/interfere with bone and the surgery? Are you kidding? Without an upper jaw movement that means my fucking ortho will cause a complete and total relapse.
TL;DR - ORTHODONTICS DETERMINE SURGICAL PROCEDURE - DO YOUR FUCKING RESEARCH AND EARN YOUR FUCKING MONEY BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING TO PREPARE FOR SURGERY. GO TO THE EXPENSIVE, FAMOUS ONES WHO HAVE PROVEN AESTHETIC TRACK RECORDS - PERIOD.
Finally got my consultation with my surgeon a few weeks before my BSSO. While I am going through with it, I'm fucked. Totally fucked. 3 years of braces and $15,000 later and my problems are not going to be solved. I don't know what I'm going to do after my recovery is over and I see what I look like - because that'll be my looks cap. Suicide fuel for sure.
Turns out, my fate was set in stone the moment we started doing orthodontics. I don't understand how I failed to grasp or understand this, but I fucked up. After seeing my occlusal plane and ceph before and after braces, I realised that my surgery plan cannot be changed or altered in any way. No amount of data, desire, or money can change the fact that my pre-surgery orthodontics set me up for a result that is 100% functional and in no way will impact my appearance. I cannot receive any sort of jaw rotation, lefort, downgraft, or ANYTHING except a 7mm linear advancement of the mandible - I'm fucking devastated.
For those that don't know, pre surgery braces are done to bring the teeth to a predictable location for a surgical jaw advancement. The position of the teeth, especially horizontally, determines the amount of forward movement. So in my case, all they did was straighten the teeth and rotate a few canines to slide my bottom jaw up to them. No compensation for any sort of vertical movement or rotation. And there's no going back and "undoing" this orthodontic work to make another procedure viable.
I have a short face and chin with overbite AND overjet. My gonial angle is like 110'. I will gain ZERO lower third height and chin projection from this movement. I will gain ZERO profile forward growth as even the smallest passive jut I do every day far exceeds the advancement I'll be receiving. Absolutely nothing is going to change about the way I look. And the best part? This isn't even going to fix my fucking functional problems. Because we aren't rotating the mandible in any way, my molars STILL won't touch when he does the advancement. He insists ortho fixation will solve this problem post surgery - but all that means is that the pressure from my elastics will be enough to move/interfere with bone and the surgery? Are you kidding? Without an upper jaw movement that means my fucking ortho will cause a complete and total relapse.
TL;DR - ORTHODONTICS DETERMINE SURGICAL PROCEDURE - DO YOUR FUCKING RESEARCH AND EARN YOUR FUCKING MONEY BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING TO PREPARE FOR SURGERY. GO TO THE EXPENSIVE, FAMOUS ONES WHO HAVE PROVEN AESTHETIC TRACK RECORDS - PERIOD.
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