I’ve been wrong

[Moggie]

My shoulders at about average but I have wide hips or it could just be that my upper body isn’t developed at all while my lower is, I look like a block

do you train? I have been lazy and havent trained for the last few months the closest thing I do is regular stretching as my back is often stiff.

 

[Deleted member 20189]

do you train? I have been lazy and havent trained for the last few months the closest thing I do is regular stretching as my back is often stiff.

Haven’t been consistent, still trying to lose weight too since I’m at like 20-25 percent body fat

 

[Moggie]

Haven’t been consistent, still trying to lose weight too since I’m at like 20-25 percent body fat

yeah cut down to at least 14% bhai

 

[odegoat]

Ever since finding the blackpill I’ve been coping with the fact that the average person is 4 psl and not looksmaxxed. Then I started looking on instagram of people I use to know in high school since I just made an account about 2 weeks ago.

I legitimately forgot how attractive the average white guy is compared to how I am now and how I use to look when I was fatter. Every guy is leanmaxxed, hairmaxxed, fashionmaxxed, tanmaxxed, ntmaxxed, upper middle class to rich, and 5 psl.

I feel like most here think that we found some type of holy grail on how to ascend, to make up for being below average for most our life. But really we are just trying to live an average life. It sounds so funny how Im probably gonna get surgery and waste years of my life to maybe look half as good as the average guy at my high school while they get to live their life. And even if I someone looksmax to 5 psl which Is highly unlikely I think, I’ll be so far behind socially it will already be over. I should have just kept coping with food, at least it made me happy

This is not true. The average person is not attractive. Remember that people only upload their good photos to social networks, and many times they are photoshopped. You also mention that your former classmates are upper class, and upper class people are usually more attractive than lower class people, because of a better mix of genes and better nutrition in general.

 

[Deleted member 20189]

This is not true. The average person is not attractive. Remember that people only upload their good photos to social networks, and many times they are photoshopped. You also mention that your former classmates are upper class, and upper class people are usually more attractive than lower class people, because of a better mix of genes and better nutrition in general.

The people I’m talking about though is the people you need to worry about, cause those are the people who are considered average by women and the average in the general dating market for young people. Like sure If ur in Alabama in the middle of nowhere and everyone around you is poor, a 5 psl guy would probably be good there. But the thing is that every girl is on social media now so when they exit high school they know they can explore their options at college.

 

[alphaChadpeasant911]

Yeah no shit bro, blackpill is becoming mainstream due to tik tock, everyone is trying to ascend so they don't get left behind and the competition is now more cut throat than ever. Average people are now above average due to softmaxing, that is why in order to truly ascend to above average as a subhuman you need to do hardmaxxing/surgery

 

[odegoat]

The people I’m talking about though is the people you need to worry about, cause those are the people who are considered average by women and the average in the general dating market for young people. Like sure If ur in Alabama in the middle of nowhere and everyone around you is poor, a 5 psl guy would probably be good there. But the thing is that every girl is on social media now so when they exit high school they know they can explore their options at college.

Yes I guess that's true. The dating market is too complicated for most men today, that is in the statistics and studies. These girls that we are talking about will fuck every weekend of college with attractive guys and when they finish college and need financial help they will go with the beta bucks man. I say this because I know of one that has surely done it.

 

[Deleted member 20189]

Yes I guess that's true. The dating market is too complicated for most men today, that is in the statistics and studies. These girls that we are talking about will fuck every weekend of college with attractive guys and when they finish college and need financial help they will go with the beta bucks man. I say this because I know of one that has surely done it.

I know a bunch of women that have done that exact same thing, it is the way of the modern western world

 

[odegoat]

I still think Barrett is ugly

Why do you think that?

 

[Deleted member 20189]

Yeah no shit bro, blackpill is becoming mainstream due to tik tock, everyone is trying to ascend so they don't get left behind and the competition is now more cut throat than ever. Average people are now above average due to softmaxing, that is why in order to truly ascend to above average as a subhuman you need to do hardmaxxing/surgery

Nah it’s not really becoming mainstream, it’s always been the same tbh, it’s just that a lot of subhumans are becoming aware of something that was already true. My uncle was literally the definition of a 5 psl 6 feet white guy (hairmaxxed, tanmaxxed, gymmaxxed). He was super popular in school and even though he’s fat now he is still super nt. While my dad on the other hand was 6 feet but 4 psl maximum and seemed to be an incel during highshool. It may have gotten slightly worse with the internet but life has been about the same

 

[odegoat]

Even the 6+ PSL statusmaxxed Chad at my school had to talk to girls for weeks before fucking and got rejected countless times.

If it is not easy to get women for a Chad then I am not going to have any sexual contact with women in my life. I will die alone and a virgin, praying to be reincarnated in the body of a gigachad.

 

[Deleted member 20189]

Why do you think that?

Look at him, wide as fuck face, he looks like an alien, women don’t like wide faces unlike what these psl autists say

 

[Papi]

@LooksOverAll gosh, and here I thought that people will keep jacking off to the blackpill like mad.

Really nice to see someone who does not swallow pills mindlessly and treat it as some cure-all method.

TheRedPill in it's first versions, before it got overrun by snots who would put their weenie in any hole with lube, was a really great thing to put people on life track and enjoy it.
You were lost, didn't know how to socialize, didn't know how to succeed - here it is, work your ass off, focus on important things for you that will profit in your life and things will ultimately start circulating around you.

BlackPill was and is nothing more than "see,I told you, this won't work this way" - but it also became a tool to just fill on hatred and make people miserable while keeping them desperate and think everything is hopeless.

And it's really pissing me off, as many people who have some talents and could easily acquire something in their lives while cashing that talent off, they keep sitting in their basement calling each day as miserable and unworthy of moving a finger, because "BlackPill was right".

I've noticed that Blackpill mostly creates NEETs...

Of course, I don't mean those guys need to be awfully rich, but hey, pay the bills and on a whim you can buy this or that or just travel the world alone to fuck off from the society completely - whatever works and makes them happy for real.

@Bezel

Because of all those pills and other sheningans, people started grading men in two categories - garbage or Chads.

While in reality, majority of men are just fine looking people - some keep unhealthy life, so their looks degrade, but hey, get on healthy track and after some time they are just fine, unless they screwed up their health and it impacts seriously.

Not gonna lie, some part of society is...well, below average? I know it's more or less a personal preference, but that's how it is.

And it hits both men and women.

I'm not really into surgeries to fix your looks if your structure isn't abnormal.

As example: I know a girl that had like 7 surgeries, because her facial bone structure completely fucked up when growing up (I don't remember if it was caused by some incident with a car or something like that).
Her jaw was growing and developing weirdly, so did her cheek bones and so on.
So she had the surgeries to break done the bone structure and recompile it to make it as symmetric as possible.

Her looks didn't really change much, but healthy wise it was a damn improvement.

 

[Deleted member 20189]

If it is not easy to get women for a Chad then I am not going to have any sexual contact with women in my life. I will die alone and a virgin, praying to be reincarnated in the body of a gigachad.

What’s ur stats?

 

[Deleted member 20189]

@LooksOverAll gosh, and here I thought that people will keep jacking off to the blackpill like mad.

Really nice to see someone who does not swallow pills mindlessly and treat it as some cure-all method.

TheRedPill in it's first versions, before it got overrun by snots who would put their weenie in any hole with lube, was a really great thing to put people on life track and enjoy it.
You were lost, didn't know how to socialize, didn't know how to succeed - here it is, work your ass off, focus on important things for you that will profit in your life and things will ultimately start circulating around you.

BlackPill was and is nothing more than "see,I told you, this won't work this way" - but it also became a tool to just fill on hatred and make people miserable while keeping them desperate and think everything is hopeless.

And it's really pissing me off, as many people who have some talents and could easily acquire something in their lives while cashing that talent off, they keep sitting in their basement calling each day as miserable and unworthy of moving a finger, because "BlackPill was right".

I've noticed that Blackpill mostly creates NEETs...

Of course, I don't mean those guys need to be awfully rich, but hey, pay the bills and on a whim you can buy this or that or just travel the world alone to fuck off from the society completely - whatever works and makes them happy for real.

@Bezel

Because of all those pills and other sheningans, people started grading men in two categories - garbage or Chads.

While in reality, majority of men are just fine looking people - some keep unhealthy life, so their looks degrade, but hey, get on healthy track and after some time they are just fine, unless they screwed up their health and it impacts seriously.

Not gonna lie, some part of society is...well, below average? I know it's more or less a personal preference, but that's how it is.

And it hits both men and women.

I'm not really into surgeries to fix your looks if your structure isn't abnormal.

As example: I know a girl that had like 7 surgeries, because her facial bone structure completely fucked up when growing up (I don't remember if it was caused by some incident with a car or something like that).
Her jaw was growing and developing weirdly, so did her cheek bones and so on.
So she had the surgeries to break done the bone structure and recompile it to make it as symmetric as possible.

Her looks didn't really change much, but healthy wise it was a damn improvement.

Yah blackpill is such cope honestly, didn’t really benefit me that much. I was happier and more nt before Covid. I really blame Covid more than the blackpill cause it isolated me even more than I was so I discovered the blackpill

 

[odegoat]

My uncle was literally the definition of a 5 psl 6 feet white guy (hairmaxxed, tanmaxxed, gymmaxxed). He was super popular in school and even though he’s fat now he is still super nt. While my dad on the other hand was 6 feet but 4 psl maximum and seemed to be an incel during highshool

Good looking+ average height of that country > tall+ face below average/ average.

 

[Deleted member 20189]

Good looking+ average height of that country > tall+ face below average/ average.

I 100 percent agree, my friends who are htn and average height do better than me with women while I don’t do so well, and I’m around ltn-mtn at 6 3

 

[odegoat]

I 100 percent agree, my friends who are htn and average height do better than me with women while I don’t do so well, and I’m around ltn-mtn at 6 3

Brutal. I recently made a post on this topic, I want to see what people think.

 

[Deleted member 20189]

Brutal. I recently made a post on this topic, I want to see what people think.

Post the link

 

[odegoat]

Post the link

https://looksmax.org/threads/good-l...untry-tall-face-below-average-average.572396/

 

[Papi]

Yah blackpill is such cope honestly, didn’t really benefit me that much. I was happier and more nt before Covid. I really blame Covid more than the blackpill cause it isolated me even more than I was so I discovered the blackpill

Personally, I'm a very strong minded and resistant to bs from society, etc.

But COVID and goverment BS and actions really did cause me feel tired and semi-aggressive during that time.

Basically from fall of 2020 to mid 2021 I was a god damn walking barrel of powder ready to ignite and explode.

Regarding the attractiveness and those pills - well, those pills have some truth in them, like a drop in a ocean.
But needs to be taken with grain of salt too.

If some girls are hoes, then they are hoes - you won't change them, not worthy to try or associate with them.

Society is also a damn ZOO.
I call Society a bunch of lemmings - there was a game back in '90s called Lemmings, which were mindlessly going forward and you had to structure the platforms for their safe passage, otherwise they died - rofl.

And the worst part of the society is - if you do not abide by their retarded rules, you don't follow them mindlessly, then they ditch you - so it's really worthy as a man to learn how to live as a Lone Wolf.

Adulthood and friends? man, if you get at least 1 really good friend that will help you basically with anything and not ask for a penny, because "we're buddies, we help one-another", then that's gold.
Mostly people don't have even one such friend on their side - if you get one or two that's damn good luck.

So, attractiveness - this topic is so damn broad.

Looks help on many fields to be honest - in career, in social relations, in relationships with opposite sex, etc.
However, as you gain more experience and wisdom through your own life, you'll notice that this shit is important in corporate environment and that's where it counts, as people wear suits and pretend to be someone who they are not.

If you do your career in smaller environments (still can earn quite a nice money), then you notice that people don't really care about your looks as attractiveness, but what is attractive for them are other values you present to them.

So, to be frank - this world is a huge place and people need to find their own chair to sit on and live happily.

Some love to be sugarcoated and live in a dreamworld like corp environments.

Some have other values and priorities and are happy with it.

Sadly, in many cases those that live in a dreamworld and keep coping to themselves hard, tend to hate those average Joe who lives his life in pure happiness while doing his own things, not disturbing anyone - even if they are completely alone.

 

[Deleted member 20189]

@Papi
I’ve really just come to the conclusion that the blackpill is a terrible thing to know, most people already know all of this without it being told to them (I was one of them) and it will keep them much happier. Even @Prettyboy said he’s not as outgoing as he use to be. So yes I agree your average plain joe will definitely live a happier life than possibly even blackpilled chad. One of the happiest guys I know is like 4 psl but he has his low tier Becky and is nt and happy, not blackpilled at all

 

[Papi]

@Papi
I’ve really just come to the conclusion that the blackpill is a terrible thing to know, most people already know all of this without it being told to them (I was one of them) and it will keep them much happier. Even @Prettyboy said he’s not as outgoing as he use to be. So yes I agree your average plain joe will definitely live a happier life than possibly even blackpilled chad. One of the happiest guys I know is like 4 psl but he has his low tier Becky and is nt and happy, not blackpilled at all

What I'm going to say may sound surprising, some believe it's a hoax or bluepilled shizz.

One thing - Blackpill is exactly what you said, no rocket science, we already know this shit, we just didn't pay much attention to it. But Blackpill makes you focus solely on all that toxic shit that is destructive to your own mind.

The low tier Becky is a funny thing actually - I know and saw some good looking guys that could have a pretty girl that wears a nice skirt and heels, but no, they are with some overweight girl or some Cinderella just that she will never attend a ball.

And they are happy.

And I see pretty girls in skirts and heels who cling to some fatass guy with man-tits bigger than she has.

And they are happy.

I imagine that some of those relationships may be fetishes.
But when I hear that pretty girls go only in pair with pretty boys - it just doesn't add up.

I honestly find it even funny that those pretty girl <-> pretty boy pair, just doesn't work in reality, as they arguing a ton and breakup easily.

But with all of that - I pretty much don't care.

if that Chad is happy with that Cinderella of his - who am I to judge?

If that Stacy is happy with that Joe who has a hole in his jeans - who am I to judge?

I root for them actually.

And some people can' really accept it - especially women, who spill that shizz where a beauty should only and only be with super handsome, successful and rich guy.

yeah..right..

Just like being 40+ and gettin yourself a LEGO set to spend hours on building it alone or with a kid if you have one, is a fucking no because you're an adult!!!1111 - or so do those salty femoids say.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

@Papi
I’ve really just come to the conclusion that the blackpill is a terrible thing to know, most people already know all of this without it being told to them (I was one of them) and it will keep them much happier. Even @Prettyboy said he’s not as outgoing as he use to be. So yes I agree your average plain joe will definitely live a happier life than possibly even blackpilled chad. One of the happiest guys I know is like 4 psl but he has his low tier Becky and is nt and happy, not blackpilled at all

Only if you're a normie+ with no room for major improvement. If you're truly ugly then the blackpill is gold.

 

[Deleted member 19174]

Fax. That’s why I gave up on this looksmaxxing shit. Every nigga I’m competing against is so far ahead of me socially and lookswise that I can’t ever hope to win. I’m just gonna cope with escortmaxxing and other shit.

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Yeah no shit bro, blackpill is becoming mainstream due to tik tock, everyone is trying to ascend so they don't get left behind and the competition is now more cut throat than ever. Average people are now above average due to softmaxing, that is why in order to truly ascend to above average as a subhuman you need to do hardmaxxing/surgery

The best option is to give up. Call it a day. There is no just world for the genetically inferior.

 

[Deleted member 20189]

Only if you're a normie+ with no room for major improvement. If you're truly ugly then the blackpill is gold.

I think unless ur actually ugly, like not low tier normie like legit ugly, most of the surgeries probably won’t ascend most people. Like I don’t see very many people that ascend with surgery tbh

 

[Deleted member 7725]

I think unless ur actually ugly, like not low tier normie like legit ugly, most of the surgeries probably won’t ascend most people. Like I don’t see very many people that ascend with surgery tbh

r/jawsurgery

Literally see someone go from ugly to a legitimate htn+ every few weeks.

 

[Deleted member 20189]

r/jawsurgery

Literally see someone go from ugly to a legitimate htn+ every few weeks.

Really? Maybe I just haven’t looked there in a while, last time I was looking on there I saw a bunch of people who literally looked the exact same post opt