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Show me one instance of any woman saying something positive about cilian Murphy's appearance
And chewing.So we have 3 options: jawline implant, fillers, death.
cruise's jaw is not showing on that picYou mean crooked teeth, weak jaw Tom Cruise looks worse than square jawed, perfect teeth cruise? Good jaws look better than bad jaws?
Eye area is still more important. Compare the difference in these faces to yours:
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He may look dominant, but his morphed version is miles ahead in terms of attractiveness.cruise's jaw is not showing on that pic
this guys ipd is RIDICULOUS, still look like a dominant man due to JAW
And you actually can see Cruise’s jaw.He may look dominant, but his morphed version is miles ahead in terms of attractiveness.
You don’t need to see Cruise’s jaw to know that the morphed version is shit tier compared to the original. Compare that to the pictures of Cruise with a weak jaw but same eye area. He still looks attractive. Can’t say the same for the eye area morph.
jaw is law anywayHe may look dominant, but his morphed version is miles ahead in terms of attractiveness.
You don’t need to see Cruise’s jaw to know that the morphed version is shit tier compared to the original. Compare that to the pictures of Cruise with a weak jaw but same eye area. He still looks attractive. Can’t say the same for the eye area morph.
Good rebuttal.jaw is law anyway
Yes. But eyes matter mostly on photos. IRL as well but slighlty less. On the first morph it made the eyes go from 7/10 to 4/10 but in motion isn't a big deal as everything also comes into play.You mean crooked teeth, weak jaw Tom Cruise looks worse than square jawed, perfect teeth cruise? Good jaws look better than bad jaws?
Eye area is still more important. Compare the difference in these faces to yours:
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Yes. But eyes matter mostly on photos. IRL as well but slighlty less. On the first morph it made the eyes go from 7/10 to 4/10 but in motion isn't a big deal as everything also comes into play.
Good points, but the bit about replacing the eye area; they usually get replaced by incel eyes not normie eyes.
Something we have to remember, is that a good jaw is a requirement for every chad. But I’ve seen multiple chads with average eye areas.
It is more complicated than that I guess. I've personally been attracted to girls who by psl standards had supbar eye area but because the rest wasn't that bad, it kind of turned their "bad" eye area attractive in my eyes.Eyes are more important in motion in my opinion. But I also thinks everything is more important in motion. It’s the same ranking just amplified.
It is more complicated than that I guess. I've personally been attracted to girls who by psl standards had supbar eye area but because the rest wasn't that bad, it kind of turned their "bad" eye area attractive in my eyes.
Eye area is truly the king, no point in arguing over than. But even with a perfect one, someone can also get destroyed by one or a combination of bad features such as a long midface, a comically bad lower third, balding (who most of the time is a nuclear bomb on someone's aesthetic and attractiveness and so on).
My eye area is not good (4/10 on pics, maybe a weak 5/10 IRL) but I've managed to get some sucess thanks to my acceptable facial ratios, my jaw, etc.
On the other hand, eye area is a make or break feature. It can heavily failo someone with the best face. But the eye area should be very bad (like 2-3/10) in order to ruin a face.
Wrong way roundEyes are more important in motion in my opinion. But I also thinks everything is more important in motion. It’s the same ranking just amplified.
Eye area is more important in pictures and motion.Wrong way round
Eye area is more important in pics, jaw is more important in motion
Wow. Jaw matters?Everytime I meet a bald guy who has a decent sexual life, he has a jaw wider than his head. Every fuckin time. And a good cranial shape, obv.
I'm talking about people like him
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instead the people who women rated gross at first sight have usually this facial shape
Be more specific. You think that you have to have a 1.0 midface to slay?Midface length is more important than both eye area and lower third, fight me
Nah bro, I'm not talking about midface ratio since that's also influenced by your eye area/IPD so it doesn't count.Be more specific. You think that you have to have a 1.0 midface to slay?
Nah bro, I'm not talking about midface ratio since that's also influenced by your eye area/IPD so it doesn't count.
I mean the vertical length of your midface, aka your nose length+philtrum length: a short nose is an underrated halo.
That's the real blackpill, you can change your eye area or lower third but a long nose is unfixable
Nope, in motion jaw and overall face shape is much more noticeable than eye area.Eye area is more important in pictures and motion.
Nope, in motion jaw and overall face shape is much more noticeable than eye area.
In pics, the eyes are most noticeable.
Ask any knowledgeable person here and they’ll agree that eyes are king in pics and jaw is king in motion.
What makes your word authoritative then? If it’s just pure opinion then fair enough, I’ll just agree to disagree.Appealing to people on this forum as sources of authority on the subject isn’t convincing. Eyes are more noticeable in pictures and in real life. First place people look is the eyes. It is king.
My post gives examples of people with attractive eye areas getting replaced with normie ones. Look at Tom Cruise. With his pre-implant jaw, he’s still a chad because of his eye area. His normie morph with a post-implant jaw would still be a high tier normie at best.What makes your word authoritative then? If it’s just pure opinion then fair enough, I’ll just agree to disagree.
Orbit is the bone structure of your eye socket. It’s formed by seven different bones. It is the biggest factor in your eye shape. Vertically compact and horizontally long orbits lead to slayer eyes.I’ve been on this forum for a week and a half i think and i still don’t know what the hell is a orbital
cillian murphy is fucking ugly wth?Putting a quick a swift idealogical death to people extolling that eye area is king
While eye area is definitely important. Jaw is king for sexual attraction let's look at some examples. Then I may go over what makes a sexy jaw
Adrian Conrad
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In looksmax basement/world this would be a bad eye area in almost every way
- NCT
- Large Orbitals
- Upper Eyelid Exposure
- Darkness Under Eyes
- Average PFL/PFW Ratio
He might get rated only a PSL 5 here due to his feminine eyes
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However girls would strongly disagree with you. His Post Like:Follower Ratio is also very high
His jaw and more broadly his lower third (Jaw + Mouth Area) make up for any points his loses with eye area and then some
You can even say his feminine eyes balance/harmonize with his masculine lower third
One example isn't enough let's do another one
Cillian Murphy
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Again here we see much of the same
- Large Orbitals
- Upper Eyelid Exposure
- Average PFL/PFW Ratio
However he's still widely considered attractive by woman
Which one of these pic's you think would do better on tinder ?
Above Average Jaw
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Slayer Jaw
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Why might this be from an evolutionary standpoint ?
Here is my theory
A wide jaw has a large amount of not only bone, but also masseter muscle
- A large masseter muscle signified in the hunter gather days that this man/or his tribe was successful in hunting (eating more meat)
- A large masseter increases the bone density of the jaw, and making it harder to break
The last one is very important whereas you can lose an eye and still be a successful hunter (this happens often to animals who hunt). A broken jaw usually spells death in the wild.
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So what makes a good jaw and lower besides bigonial (jaw width) ?
I'll cover this in a future thread
Two Final Nails in the Coffin who still think Eye Area > Jaw.
This guy on Instagram literally lost his eye due to a rare form of cancer, and girl are still fawning over him
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Lol some girls in the comments even say
"He just has a permanent wink that's all :hearteyes:"
Will Smith has a pretty descent eye area although a somewhat small jaw
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Guess who she cheated on him with ?
A total jaw mogger with a worse eye area and higher hairline
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