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One of the realest posts here was written by a diagnosed autist. Props to @copingvolcel

"The Dangerous Power that Online Echochambers Have on the Younger Generations (millenials and younger):

Tbh, I regret signing up on this site and wasting so much time when I could have been learning useful things instead. I didn't know when I signed up that the vast majority of the users here are just teenagers who are far younger than me, I assumed that they were at least my age or older but I was such a fool to think that.

As you can probably see I have started to post less and less, now I just visit the site once in a while to check my notifications out of habit, but I have stopped posting on new threads because I know that it's a waste of time. The truth is that I only came here out of boredom because I didn't know what to do with my life and instead of seeking solutions, I just buried my head in the sand and came here to kill time instead of doing things that would actually help me. Without the pandemic, I never would have even made an account here.

And I don't reject the idea of the black pill that looks matter when trying to attract someone, what I do reject however is this groupthink mentality that is highly prevalent in online cults like mgtow, incel, black pill, TRP and PUA. Nobody who is really a part of those groups is capable of thinking for themselves, they constantly ask others to validate them and to tell them what to believe in because otherwise, they would be completely lost. The black pill community is wrong about most of the things that it talks about, most of it comes from stereotypes and misinterpretations that could easily be beaten by real experience.

I used to believe that maybe incels had a point, that maybe some of their actions were justifiable because maybe they were being mocked or ridiculed for their looks, but then when I started to see so much proof to the contrary everywhere around me, I started to discover how toxic those internet communities can be to someone's self esteem, beliefs and opinions. Like nazi propaganda, it can completely reshape how people view the world, and the ones who are the most vulnerable are most often kids and teenagers because they are much more naive than adults and can easily be lied to and manipulated.

Most of the new looksmax users are mocked for their physical appearance and told that because they don't have the looks of a supermodel, they must kill themselves ot that their life is going to be hell and that they will never get what they want but the truth is that they/you are wrong about this subject. Women don't all thirst for supermodels and the small percentage of women on tinder doesn't speak for the entire female population, and if anything, those women on tinder are actually the lowest quality women you will find, maybe not in terms of physical appearance but definitely in their personality and the way that they treat their boyfriend or other people.

However, the main problem with this forum isn't even one of those things, it is the fact that this forum's users have only one goal in life, which is to get laid as much as possible, their only goal is based around thirst and letting themselves be controlled by their sex drive, and although we shouldn't become monks like the mgtow, becoming obsessed with it so much isn't a path to success or happiness either. There has to be a balance, nobody in this world who ever became successful in life ever reached that point by being obsessed with getting laid. So, the problem with the looksmaxxing community is that they focus on an unattainable ideal that they think will bring paradise on Earth for them only, but if they can't reach it they will feel miserable. The truth is that happiness is a state of mind, and self control is the best way to reach it, not hedonism.

This forum preaches hedonism and calls self control cope and claims that it is toxic, which is complete nonsense meant to drive the brainwashed sheep into a miserable existence of unattainable goals and short term pleasure that leaves them forever dissatisfied with their life. I joined while knowing a big part of this information already and thinking that I would be strong enough to resist the indoctrination, but clearly I underestimated your ability to brainwash people, and although, you haven't won this fight, I haven't been 100% resilient.

Because of this toxic site, I have doubted myself much more than before and I started to trust this site's users more than I should have, and I started to believe that there was something wrong with me, and that the girls who checked me out weren't actually telling me to approach them, but then when I looked back at my past experiences, I realized something. No matter how much bullshit this site claims, if there were no pandemic and I were to go out, I would be able to get laid quite easily, I wouldn't even have to talk to 100 women to be able to have sex since I was already getting checked out the few times that I went out.

There are some things that this site's users are right about though like when they recommend men who have a recessed jaw to get a jaw surgery, that will definitely help them. But the vast majority of people don't need plastic surgery. And one of the biggest problems with this site, one that has made me decide to stop being as active is that guys who look normal are told that they are ugly because they don't match the site's beauty standards. Because, while I completely agree than an ugly guy should looksmax to maximize his chances, a guy who is average looking shouldn't have to go above and beyond to get what he wants since if it were the case, then most blue pilled men would be incels.

The black pill assumes that most men are incels because they think that simps are incels but that is not actually the case, it is in our nature as men to want to help and support women so it is normal, it does not cause those men to be unable to find someone, it just means that they will rather help a woman than one of their closest friends if they see the possibility of getting laid, that is because they are unable to see that they are thinking with their dick. But those men do manage to find someone, they may not be Chads, and they may not be hooking up, but they are definitely having sex with someone that they love, so they aren't incels.

So, when you tell normies that they should rope, you may ruin a decent guy's self esteem and make it even more difficult for him to get a girlfriend because he will think that every time a girl checks him out, it's all in his head or that if she really liked him, she would approach. Maybe you guys don't realize it but everything that you say on this site is powerful enough to change someone's beliefs by making them doubt themselves and act in a way that drives them away from their goals, not towards them. And that is one of the reasons why guys like @larsanova69 @ArvidGustavsson and @Amnesia are still on here even though they look far above average and are able to get laid with ease. Because when you are part of such a cult, even when you are at the top rank and you have gained the respect of the group, it's still not enough, just like a steroid user who has reached the most impressive physique of his dreams, he will still inject steroids to get bigger.

Meanwhile, out there, there are guys who look just as average as me who were never brainwashed by such toxic things as the black pill and they are so confident that they can not only succeed with the women who check them out but they are also able to approach random women and get some success there too, they're not afraid of failure because nobody was able to create powerful doubts in their mind so although they are uglier, they get laid more, and they are happier in general because they don't have limiting beliefs.
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keep writin essays
 
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cool book saga
 
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Read it all because you endorsed it. Most of it is true, but the vast majority of people need plastic surgery to reach their full potential. Also this was painful to read, autistic rambling.

You would need to have literally no real life experience to believe in the blackpill the amount he believes users here believe in it. Overall not worth your time to read this shit.
 
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don't disagree tbh
 
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Same here.
I seldom browse .me now. I don't browse .co anymore since months.
Women are attracted bilogically speaking to looks. I've accepted that I'm invisible to women. I was angry, then frustrated but now it's okey. Life is harsh.
Now, I prefer to earn money, learn new things from litreature, philosophy, history, languages to economy. I don't give a fuck anymore what women think or prefer anymore. The only thing I care about is ME. I'll earn money and fuck every foid I want and don't care if she likes me or not. It's her problem not mine. Men have always considered women as fucking domestic animals ; just read the Iliade, for example. Women cannot be satisfied. It's a folly to try to please them. It's a folly to be a people pleaser to begin with whether they're men or women.
Moral of the story : focus on yourself. Stop caring what women think. Money will make her do whatever you want.
 
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Read all of it. Looks matter, but not to the extent that this forum makes it out to. The key takeaway from this forum is to get surgeries within reason to fix your flaws and leave to focus on grander things in life that you enjoy doing
 
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Most retarded shit I ever read

The black pill assumes that most men are incels because they think that simps are incels
Never seen anyone think this are you retarded? Where did you get that normie logic from?

what I do reject however is this groupthink mentality that is highly prevalent in online cults like mgtow, incel, black pill, TRP and PUA. Nobody who is really a part of those groups is capable of thinking for themselves, they constantly ask others to validate them and to tell them what to believe in because otherwise, they would be completely lost.
I've never seen this. Examples please.

the things that it talks about, most of it comes from stereotypes and misinterpretations that could easily be beaten by real experience.
Again. Gonna need examples. Everything dis guy is saying is so vague.

I used to believe that maybe incels had a point, that maybe some of their actions were justifiable
Actions? What actions? Only 2 "incels" have gone ER and it's obvious the second one is a psyop

nazi propaganda
Proof?

Most of the new looksmax users are mocked for their physical appearance and told that because they don't have the looks of a supermodel, they must kill themselves ot that their life is going to be hell and that they will never get what they want but the truth is that they/you are wrong about this subject. Women don't all thirst for supermodels and the small percentage of women on tinder doesn't speak for the entire female population, and if anything, those women on tinder are actually the lowest quality women you will find, maybe not in terms of physical appearance but definitely in their personality and the way that they treat their boyfriend or other people.
No one fucking thinks that only supermodels can get laid. However it is harder for lower value men to get laid nowadays. The only people who really think that are retards but I'm pretty sure most ppl who say stuff like this are exaggerating.

However, the main problem with this forum isn't even one of those things, it is the fact that this forum's users have only one goal in life, which is to get laid as much as possible
The only thing people talk about on a forum dedicated to LOOKSMAXXING is sex and looksmaxxing? You don't fucking say?

This forum preaches hedonism and calls self control cope and claims that it is toxic, which is complete nonsense meant to drive the brainwashed sheep into a miserable existence of unattainable goals and short term pleasure that leaves them forever dissatisfied with their life.
Examples? I haven't seen this.

Because of this toxic site, I have doubted myself much more than before and I started to trust this site's users more than I should have, and I started to believe that there was something wrong with me, and that the girls who checked me out weren't actually telling me to approach them, but then when I looked back at my past experiences, I realized something. No matter how much bullshit this site claims, if there were no pandemic and I were to go out, I would be able to get laid quite easily, I wouldn't even have to talk to 100 women to be able to have sex since I was already getting checked out the few times that I went out.
Jesus that's you're own fucking fault that you were too retarded to not be able to understand jokes and hyperboles.

There are some things that this site's users are right about though like when they recommend men who have a recessed jaw to get a jaw surgery, that will definitely help them. But the vast majority of people don't need plastic surgery. And one of the biggest problems with this site, one that has made me decide to stop being as active is that guys who look normal are told that they are ugly because they don't match the site's beauty standards. Because, while I completely agree than an ugly guy should looksmax to maximize his chances, a guy who is average looking shouldn't have to go above and beyond to get what he wants since if it were the case, then most blue pilled men would be incels.
Examples? I havent seen this.

So, when you tell normies that they should rope, you may ruin a decent guy's self esteem and make it even more difficult for him to get a girlfriend because he will think that every time a girl checks him out, it's all in his head or that if she really liked him, she would approach. Maybe you guys don't realize it but everything that you say on this site is powerful enough to change someone's beliefs by making them doubt themselves and act in a way that drives them away from their goals, not towards them. And that is one of the reasons why guys like @larsanova69 @ArvidGustavsson and @Amnesia are still on here even though they look far above average and are able to get laid with ease. Because when you are part of such a cult, even when you are at the top rank and you have gained the respect of the group, it's still not enough, just like a steroid user who has reached the most impressive physique of his dreams, he will still inject steroids to get bigger.
I'm sorry but you are a fucking pussy if someone saying the word 'rope' to you on an incel forum gets to you

And that is one of the reasons why guys like @larsanova69 @ArvidGustavsson and @Amnesia are still on here even though they look far above average and are able to get laid with ease. Because when you are part of such a cult, even when you are at the top rank and you have gained the respect of the group, it's still not enough, just like a steroid user who has reached the most impressive physique of his dreams, he will still inject steroids to get bigger.
Those users barely post here and they usually just shitpost or share irl stories. Arvidgustavson posts quite a lot but he's young and all he does here is shitpost.

Meanwhile, out there, there are guys who look just as average as me who were never brainwashed by such toxic things as the black pill and they are so confident that they can not only succeed with the women who check them out but they are also able to approach random women and get some success there too, they're not afraid of failure because nobody was able to create powerful doubts in their mind so although they are uglier, they get laid more, and they are happier in general because they don't have limiting beliefs. "
I think the reason you view the forum as caring about looks and sex so much is because as you said, you are average looking and could already get sex before you joined. We have people here and on incels.is who are genuine utter subhumans and have been treated like shit all their life and have never had sex before which is why these types of people care so much about sex and looksmaxxing which you as an average looking man wouldn't be able to relate to
 
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Most retarded shit I ever read


Never seen anyone think this are you retarded? Where did you get that normie logic from?





I've never seen this. Examples please.




Again. Gonna need examples. Everything dis guy is saying is so vague.




Actions? What actions? Only 2 "incels" have gone ER and it's obvious the second one is a psyop




Proof?




No one fucking thinks that only supermodels can get laid. However it is harder for lower value men to get laid nowadays. The only people who really think that are retards but I'm pretty sure most ppl who say stuff like this are exaggerating.




The only thing people talk about on a forum dedicated to LOOKSMAXXING is sex and looksmaxxing? You don't fucking say?




Examples? I haven't seen this.




Jesus that's you're own fucking fault that you were too retarded to not be able to understand jokes and hyperboles.




Examples? I havent seen this.




I'm sorry but you are a fucking pussy if someone saying the word 'rope' to you on an incel forum gets to you




Those users barely post here and they usually just shitpost or share irl stories. Arvidgustavson posts quite a lot but he's young and all he does here is shitpost.




I think the reason you view the forum as caring about looks and sex so much is because as you said, you are average looking and could already get sex before you joined. We have people here and on incels.is who are genuine utter subhumans and have been treated like shit all their life and have never had sex before which is why these types of people care so much about sex and looksmaxxing which you as an average looking man wouldn't be able to relate to
Did i read?
 
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Most retarded shit I ever read


Never seen anyone think this are you retarded? Where did you get that normie logic from?


I've never seen this. Examples please.


Again. Gonna need examples. Everything dis guy is saying is so vague.


Actions? What actions? Only 2 "incels" have gone ER and it's obvious the second one is a psyop


Proof?


No one fucking thinks that only supermodels can get laid. However it is harder for lower value men to get laid nowadays. The only people who really think that are retards but I'm pretty sure most ppl who say stuff like this are exaggerating.


The only thing people talk about on a forum dedicated to LOOKSMAXXING is sex and looksmaxxing? You don't fucking say?


Examples? I haven't seen this.


Jesus that's you're own fucking fault that you were too retarded to not be able to understand jokes and hyperboles.


Examples? I havent seen this.


I'm sorry but you are a fucking pussy if someone saying the word 'rope' to you on an incel forum gets to you


Those users barely post here and they usually just shitpost or share irl stories. Arvidgustavson posts quite a lot but he's young and all he does here is shitpost.


I think the reason you view the forum as caring about looks and sex so much is because as you said, you are average looking and could already get sex before you joined. We have people here and on incels.is who are genuine utter subhumans and have been treated like shit all their life and have never had sex before which is why these types of people care so much about sex and looksmaxxing which you as an average looking man wouldn't be able to relate to

Replys me
 
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One of the realest posts here was written by a diagnosed autist. Props to @copingvolcel
The black pill community is wrong about most of the things that it talks about, most of it comes from stereotypes and misinterpretations that could easily be beaten by real experience.


didnt read the whole thing, but this ^^^^^
 
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put that fucker on ignore a while ago and everythings much better tbh
 
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butal just be bluepilled theory
 
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Most of the new looksmax users are mocked for their physical appearance and told that because they don't have the looks of a supermodel, they must kill themselves
I completely utterly caged at this part :lul: JFL
 
take all the pills: black, red, blue, etc.

at the end of the day everything matters but not to the extremes each of these ideologies portray.
 
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Most retarded shit I ever read


Never seen anyone think this are you retarded? Where did you get that normie logic from?


I've never seen this. Examples please.


Again. Gonna need examples. Everything dis guy is saying is so vague.


Actions? What actions? Only 2 "incels" have gone ER and it's obvious the second one is a psyop


Proof?


No one fucking thinks that only supermodels can get laid. However it is harder for lower value men to get laid nowadays. The only people who really think that are retards but I'm pretty sure most ppl who say stuff like this are exaggerating.


The only thing people talk about on a forum dedicated to LOOKSMAXXING is sex and looksmaxxing? You don't fucking say?


Examples? I haven't seen this.


Jesus that's you're own fucking fault that you were too retarded to not be able to understand jokes and hyperboles.


Examples? I havent seen this.


I'm sorry but you are a fucking pussy if someone saying the word 'rope' to you on an incel forum gets to you


Those users barely post here and they usually just shitpost or share irl stories. Arvidgustavson posts quite a lot but he's young and all he does here is shitpost.


I think the reason you view the forum as caring about looks and sex so much is because as you said, you are average looking and could already get sex before you joined. We have people here and on incels.is who are genuine utter subhumans and have been treated like shit all their life and have never had sex before which is why these types of people care so much about sex and looksmaxxing which you as an average looking man wouldn't be able to relate to
Exactly what I wanted to respond but couldn't be bothered because I'm on mobile.
 
Read it all because you endorsed it. Most of it is true, but the vast majority of people need plastic surgery to reach their full potential. Also this was painful to read, autistic rambling.

You would need to have literally no real life experience to believe in the blackpill the amount he believes users here believe in it. Overall not worth your time to read this shit.
I wouldn’t say that. I went into the deep end with the bp shit mostly due to isolation and me disregarding past experiences because “I wasn’t paying attention”. The only reason I came out of it, was cause I went back to school. Some people here haven’t talked to another person irl in weeks, so I just wanted to remind them not to take shit seriously.
 
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Imagine reading this shit jfl
Brb drinking a beer
 
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Good post and good avi
lesson learned
 
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Used to browse this site every now and then, been on it more since october this year. And i can tell its affected me. Imagine users that stay on this site for hours every month.
 
Imagine reading this shit jfl
Brb drinking a beer
you should tbh
despite having a 6 psl face you still rot here instead of getting jbs
 
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you should tbh
despite having a 6 psl face you still rot here instead of getting jbs
I will when I get sober ngl
Drank a bit
 
He's just stating the obvious.

Users who are in their 20s like me and CopingVolcel should not be posting here, because we are on a different wavelength. Teenagers or rotters on here don't care about meaningful discussion which can help improve them and/or others around them.

Teenagers are in a mindset that they can waste time and infect their minds with bullcrap, yet it not have a price on their long term aspirations. The information you consume becomes building block for thought. If you want average thoughts consume forums like these and/or social media with an upvote mechanism or an algorithmic feed.
 
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That’s crazy
 
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I'm not @copingvolcel, but i'll answer the way i saw it

Never seen anyone think this are you retarded? Where did you get that normie logic from?
Not sure about the simps part, but he isn't wrong. BP assumes the average guy with no resources as an incel
I've never seen this. Examples please.
JFL, not sure if you're joking or retarded? Just about any critique or alternate views on the bp on .co or .me, you're gonna be met with "cope" or "bluepill". People here literally post everything about their life, looking to be validated @Mirin2234 @Nibba @ChadKahn @RealLooksmaxxer
Again. Gonna need examples. Everything dis guy is saying is so vague.
tinder experiments, misinterpreted due to lack of context
Actions? What actions? Only 2 "incels" have gone ER and it's obvious the second one is a psyop
He's talking about .co, not ER or AM
Just a comparison
No one fucking thinks that only supermodels can get laid. However it is harder for lower value men to get laid nowadays. The only people who really think that are retards but I'm pretty sure most ppl who say stuff like this are exaggerating.
JFL is that the only thing you took from that? Like i said, he's a diagnoised aspie, he just took "chico or rope" to seriously
The only thing people talk about on a forum dedicated to LOOKSMAXXING is sex and looksmaxxing? You don't fucking say?
You're twisting what he's saying. It's not some causal convo on sex. It's their life's dedication to it, every move they make is only to get laid.
Jesus that's you're own fucking fault that you were too retarded to not be able to understand jokes and hyperboles.
That's true, it's his fault, but too much exposure to "jokes" and you start seeing it as truth
Examples? I haven't seen this.
Go into the search bar, type in "religion" and search by threads, then press "ctrl" + f and type cope
Examples? I havent seen this.
nigga elab
Those users barely post here and they usually just shitpost or share irl stories. Arvidgustavson posts quite a lot but he's young and all he does here is shitpost.
Arvid is literally khhv
 
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Arvid is literally khhv
He's young and retarded/scandanavian give him some time and he'll ascend

I'll respond to the rest tomorrow cuz I'm going to schleep
 
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He's just stating the obvious.

Users who are in their 20s like me and CopingVolcel should not be posting here, because we are on a different wavelength. Teenagers or rotters on here don't care about meaningful discussion which can help improve them and/or others around them.

Teenagers are in a mindset that they can waste time and infect their minds with bullcrap, yet it not have a price on their long term aspirations. The information you consume becomes building block for thought. If you want average thoughts consume forums like these and/or social media with an upvote mechanism or an algorithmic feed.
Tbh it’s fine, just don’t take anything posted in offtopic or ratings seriously, the rest is pretty good.
 
Tbh it’s fine, just don’t take anything posted in offtopic or ratings seriously, the rest is pretty good.
niggas spend hours here everyday and you telling me they won't take anything seriously? kys faggot
 
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niggas spend hours here everyday and you telling me they won't take anything seriously? kys faggot
I mean yeah, it’s not that hard.
 
not being incel isn't the goal. I just want to slay.
 
@copingvolcel ur the embodiment of cringe bro
 
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keep writin essays
I actually switched to COD Cold War, I have been getting really good at it btw.

Even though I just started to play it 3 days a go, I am already at level 55 and my main gun also is level 55.
 
I do not agree with everything he said, but he made a few good points here and there.
 
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The last part tbh.

@ArvidGustavsson nigga seriously wtf is wrong with your brain tbh
 
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@copingvolcel new-found respect for your autistic ass tbh
 
Men can't judge men perfectly on attractiveness. We do our best based on the patterns we've seen in our own lives of which guys girls go after, and which guys they reject. But again it won't be perfect, so guys can only know if they are attractive by seeing how many women will sleep with them and date them, but the biggest benefit we offer is pointing out specific areas in each other that if looksmaxed will likely enhance each other's dating success which is not information you can get by pursuing women.

This website didn't black pill me, life black pilled me so I found this site. I knew everything about pickup, did hundreds of approaches and was in a group with some of the best pickup artists in the city. No, one else could see it because they were in a cult that truly believed that looks didn't matter, but after a while I could see it. The guys who did the best were the best looking guys, the guy who did the second best was the second best looking guy, and so on, and so on. All of the techniques, charisma, personality, status, confidence, amounted to absolutely nothing; All of their success was based on looks.

I dated and was friends with many girls, and am agreeable and non-judgmental enough for them to be honest around me. All they care about, and all they talk about concerning guys is their looks, it's how they decide which guys to date. Occasionally some socially intelligent girls will start talking about how the guy they met is so nice and they have a genuine connection etc. etc., and I ask for a picture and he's one of the best looking guys I've ever seen, then hear later that he just pumped and dumped her. This has happened many times.

What appears like echo chambers may be to a large extent, many people who have drawn similar conclusions from their life experiences and have found each other online. There will be high correlations with other beliefs so you get a larger belief structures that people tend towards within a website, but you can take what you agree with and ignore what you don't.

You'll never agree with all of the general beliefs of any website, and if you find yourself disagreeing with too many of the beliefs for conversations to productive any more, you can always avoid those threads or avoid the website and find a new one that better matches where you're at. You can't control what other people believe, but you can find the people and places online that are the most productive for you on your personal journey.

Edit: I just saw what I'm responding to was a repost, but this is still what I think about it.
 
WHOEVER THE FUCK WROTE THAT IS COMING TO THE EXACT SAME FUCKING CONCLUSIONS I HAVE COME TO. WHY IS IT RETARDS ARENT ABLE TO SEE IT BUT ITS SO FUCKING OBVIOUS TO ME... It's the TRUTH
 
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