
Babushkacatlady
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6 months to a yearhow long generally/on average does it take for the masseters to atrophy?
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6 months to a yearhow long generally/on average does it take for the masseters to atrophy?
WTF6 months to a year
By the way what makes you think there is nothing environmental about mandibular length and that it is all genetic?6 months to a year
There can be environmentally influenced factors like GH and Testosterone levels which act upon receptors and genes in cells (which are still primarily genetically determined barring some environmental exceptions) and in the opposite case extremely low estradiol levels (can be genetic, can cause condyle resorption if combined with joint trauma) and TMJ rheumatoid arthritis (condyle resorption, autoimmune) as well as things like TMJ ankylosis from recurrent childhood ear infections and trauma or other causes.By the way what makes you think there is nothing environmental about mandibular length and that it is all genetic?
I thought primitive people had larger jaws due to more mastication during growing years. I think even Mike Mew said something like that but maybe that's bs. Coceancig claimed people had smaller jews due to sexual selection adn the fact we evolved that way but that seems like bullshit. What is interesting also is the GH thing you said. Apparently recessed people get less growth hormone due to less REM sleep.There can be environmentally influenced factors like GH and Testosterone levels which act upon receptors and genes in cells (which are still primarily genetically determined barring some environmental exceptions) and in the opposite case extremely low estradiol levels (can be genetic, can cause condyle resorption if combined with joint trauma) and TMJ rheumatoid arthritis (condyle resorption, autoimmune) as well as things like TMJ ankylosis from recurrent childhood ear infections and trauma or other causes.
As a general rule though the mandible length could also likely be controlled by genes that also control these factors listed above, so it could be perhaps not under direct genetic control I am not entirely sure of the SNP variations.
There is some anecdotal evidence that certain extreme class 3 malocclusions can have larger than normal condylar length, but then you have to ask yourself, would it have been longer regardless of if the maxilla was in line with the mandible or is it a characteristic of the class 3 itself?
There is some good anecdotal evidence that adults who have taken large doses GH as part of bodybuilding that have noted mandible growth (which I assume is length) as well as acromegaly due the condyle having undifferentiated cells. But you can often notice that this is seldom aesthetic.
how do your lips align, like does lower lip protrude further than upper lip? i got cucked by extractions, when i jut to normal occlusion of aligned molars( got class 2 rn) i ascend hard. im thinking of a way to incline canines at a more forward angle, or pull entire upper arch forward so i can enable permajut position( like towel pulling, cleching on mouthguard, mewing on teeth, pushing them outwards). you did something like this? did your teeth change in any way?He claims he looks better than 20 years ago lol, you can find his comment with before after pics in that Facebook group. He actually does look a bit better lmfao
and I got good results mewing for 5 years from age 16, would post pics if I documented properly and if my career didn’t depend on me not having random pics of me on the internet. Fixed my class 2 division 1 with mewing and jutting.