Just how bad is my eye area?

[Jestermaxxed10]

I inherited my dad’s psycho T50 eyes and my British mother’s general British ugliness, I can’t put my finger on exactly why my eye area is so bad. Can any of this be improved by Botox or fillers, or is surgery necessary?

 

[vermicel]

I can’t put my finger on exactly why my eye area is so bad. Can any of this be improved by Botox or fillers, or is surgery necessary?

Droopy lower eyelid. It messes with your eye aspect ratio.
Canthopexy can fix it.
Perhaps will you also benefit from a lower blepharoplasty, but the quality of your picture doesn't allow to ascertain it.
Latisse/bimatoprost should grow denser and longer eyelashes, which would soften your eyes.
Botox may be useful if your 11s/frown lines are quite pronounced and if you tend to frown a lot (as in this picture). It will relax the glabella and affect positively your eye area.
It'll probably take a combination of procedures & meds to achieve significant improvement.

Morph simulating roughly a canthopexy :

 

[Jestermaxxed10]

Droopy lower eyelid. It messes with your eye aspect ratio.
Canthopexy can fix it.
Perhaps will you also benefit from a lower blepharoplasty, but the quality of your picture doesn't allow to ascertain it.
Latisse/bimatoprost should grow denser and longer eyelashes, which would soften your eyes.
Botox may be useful if your 11s/frown lines are quite pronounced and if you tend to frown a lot (as in this picture). It will relax the glabella and affect positively your eye area.
It'll probably take a combination of procedures & meds to achieve significant improvement.

Morph simulating roughly a canthopexy :
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This is a slightly better picture, my eyelashes are already long but don’t photograph well. Lower bleph is something I’m considering because most of my male family members end up with a lot of under eye sagging with age

 

[connive]

pretty brutal icl

 

[Iblame2023]

IPD, Tilt, and too much a sclera show is what I see off rip

 

[tyler1234]

Look like Frank tufano

 

[Jestermaxxed10]

Look like Frank tufano

Fucking brutal

 

[vermicel]

pretty brutal icl

The ICD actually appears to be within ideal range (~1.0 ratio with the PFL).

IPD

Not sure about the IPD itself, but the ESR in the first pic is unideal indeed (0.43+ VS 0.45-0.47 ideal range). It can't be assessed in the second pic.

Tilt

His canthal tilt is within the ideal range (for both eyes). The droopy lower lid can trick our brain into thinking that the tilt is problematic, just like a negative hooding can create a similar visual impression.

too much a sclera show

Definitely too much scleral show in the second pic. Not so much in the first pic. I assumed a canthopexy could suffice, but it may be combined with a lower lid retraction repair (I could be wrong though).


@Jestermaxxed10 how far from the camera (or the mirror) were you in these pictures ? It's hard to give a secure assessment of your eye area due to potential lens distortion.
It would also help to see your cheekbones in the picture(s), as we could then measure your eye separation ratio (ESR).
At this point, I think a steady flaw is the eye aspect ratio or excessive roundness of the eye due to the droopy lower lid. There may be other issues as picked up by other comments, but a reliable picture would be required to establish a secure assessment.

Another morph simulating a canthopexy (+ lower lid retraction ?) :

In the before picture, your eye aspect ratio (palpebral fissure length : height) is 2.4-2.6 across both eyes.
In the after picture, it's approximately 2.8-3.0. Close to ideal, if not ideal for your left eye.