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This thread is about nerve damage after any type of jaw surgery. Many people here and on jawsurgeryforums are very afraid of jaw surgery due to possible nerve damage and therefore rather chose to rot with their stupidly recessed potato jaws instead of slaying their oneities.

Little do they know that severe nerve damage, meaning an extend that actually impacts you in everyday life, is extremely rare and can to almost 100% be avoided.

Some factors that influence the risk of nerve damage are:
- age
- surgeons skill
- the type of surgery. Generally the risk is as follows: Chin Wing > Genioplasty > low BSSO > high BSSO > Lefort1
- Vitamin B12 levels
- Immediacy of post surgical nerve trauma treatment

Since nerve complications after a lefort1 are much rarer than after a mandibular osteotomy, we will focus on the mandible.


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The nerve that's critical is the Nervus alveolaris inferior as shown above, running in the Canalis mandibulae and forming the Nervus mentalis by passing the Foramen mentale. It's the Nervus mentalis providing sensation to your chin and lower lip.

Loss or alteration of sensation is always a result of trauma caused mostly by stretching the nerve too much. Even a stretching of a mere 12% of it's initial length is said to cause altered sensation. Altered sensation can be classified as follows:

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The following image illustrates what nerve trauma looks like:

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Hypoesthesia and Paresthesia make up the vast majority of sensory disturbances and are usually caused by Neurapraxia or Axonotmesis. I myself suffer from Hypoesthesia in my chin and lower lip but by the end of the month I'll get treatment.

This is the key part of this thread: When you suffer from nerve damage, maxfacs will tell you to just wait and wait even more until you don't go to them anymore. The truth is, after 6 months it's a more than 80% likelyhood that the type of sensory disturbance you experience is what will be permanent.

BUT you shouldn't listen to them. Unless you suffer from Neurotmesis (the whole nerve is completely cut through, major fuck up from the surgeon) it's possible to have good recovery. As always, the better your starting point the better the possible end result after treatment. If you still have sensation disturbance 2 months post surgery go see a neurologist. With different measurements he can determine where the nerve has been damaged and once that part is localized there are different types of treatment.

A common method, that even works in some cases for Neurotmesis is by bringing the ends of the nerve together where it has been divided:
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If the gap is too long you can get a nerve transplant from you leg:

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These procedures can be done up to 3 years post surgery for the Nervus alveolaris inferior (some other nerves not involved in jaw surgery require much quicker treatment). However, the sooner treatment starts the better the prognosis. Consult your Neurologist 1 year post surgery at the very latest. Don't listen to your maxfac as he will always tell you to just wait.

These procedures can't give you a 100% recovery if you had initial hypoesthesia or worse. But combined with good health, laser therapy, acupuncture and your (hopefully) very young age it's EXTREMELY unlikely to get permanent, noticeable nerve damage.
Btw. insurance has to cover the neurologist treatment in most countries.

There's simply no more excuses not to get jaw surgery.
 
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too low inhib to afraid with this
 
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which procedures have higher rates of nerve damage?
 
This thread is about nerve damage after any type of jaw surgery. Many people here and on jawsurgeryforums are very afraid of jaw surgery due to possible nerve damage and therefore rather chose to rot with their stupidly recessed potato jaws instead of slaying their oneities.

Little do they know that severe nerve damage, meaning an extend that actually impacts you in everyday life, is extremely rare and can to almost 100% be avoided.

Some factors that influence the risk of nerve damage are:
- age
- surgeons skill
- the type of surgery. Generally the risk is as follows: Chin Wing > Genioplasty > low BSSO > high BSSO > Lefort1
- Vitamin B12 levels
- Immediacy of post surgical nerve trauma treatment

Since nerve complications after a lefort1 are much rarer than after a mandibular osteotomy, we will focus on the mandible.


View attachment 1133121

The nerve that's critical is the Nervus alveolaris inferior as shown above, running in the Canalis mandibulae and forming the Nervus mentalis by passing the Foramen mentale. It's the Nervus mentalis providing sensation to your chin and lower lip.

Loss or alteration of sensation is always a result of trauma caused mostly by stretching the nerve too much. Even a stretching of a mere 12% of it's initial length is said to cause altered sensation. Altered sensation can be classified as follows:

View attachment 1133130
The following image illustrates what nerve trauma looks like:

View attachment 1133145

Hypoesthesia and Paresthesia make up the vast majority of sensory disturbances and are usually caused by Neurapraxia or Axonotmesis. I myself suffer from Hypoesthesia in my chin and lower lip but by the end of the month I'll get treatment.

This is the key part of this thread: When you suffer from nerve damage, maxfacs will tell you to just wait and wait even more until you don't go to them anymore. The truth is, after 6 months it's a more than 80% likelyhood that the type of sensory disturbance you experience is what will be permanent.

BUT you shouldn't listen to them. Unless you suffer from Neurotmesis (the whole nerve is completely cut through, major fuck up from the surgeon) it's possible to have good recovery. As always, the better your starting point the better the possible end result after treatment. If you still have sensation disturbance 2 months post surgery go see a neurologist. With different measurements he can determine where the nerve has been damaged and once that part is localized there are different types of treatment.

A common method, that even works in some cases for Neurotmesis is by bringing the ends of the nerve together where it has been divided:
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If the gap is too long you can get a nerve transplant from you leg:

View attachment 1133149



These procedures can be done up to 3 years post surgery for the Nervus alveolaris inferior (some other nerves not involved in jaw surgery require much quicker treatment). However, the sooner treatment starts the better the prognosis. Consult your Neurologist 1 year post surgery at the very latest. Don't listen to your maxfac as he will always tell you to just wait.

These procedures can't give you a 100% recovery if you had initial hypoesthesia or worse. But combined with good health, laser therapy, acupuncture and your (hopefully) very young age it's EXTREMELY unlikely to get permanent, noticeable nerve damage.
Btw. insurance has to cover the neurologist treatment in most countries.

There's simply no more excuses not to get jaw surgery.
Don't get jaw surgery. Because you know what? It's bad for you.
 
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cosmetic?this is literally functional,has a multitude of benefits
Really? Like making you chew your food easier?
 
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Really? Like making you chew your food easier?
for those who have malocclusion probably, but the biggest benefits are in relation to breathing,this can avoid mouthbreath problems
 
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if you against plastic surgery, why you are in this forum ? softmaxing is so limited
I don't softmaxx either.

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I'm a redpill practitioner of the highest caliber trying to spread the word.
 
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What the heck are you doing here then?
Teaching you youngins how to get what you want without having to ascribe to neurotypicality.
 
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Teaching you youngins how to get what you want without having to ascribe to neurotypicality.
I, for my part, know I will only find peace when I'm no longer ashamed of my face. I don't care about sex, social status, validation, relationships, dating, satisfying my ego, deluding myself, what others think of me and all that superficial crap the majority of looksmaxers are obsessed with anymore; I just want to be somewhat content/comfortable with myself and who I am. It's impossible to ignore if you have obvious facial deformities once you're aware of them. So what's wrong with fixing those if it makes me feel better about myself?
 
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how you redpillers omit the fact that physical attraction?
We don't. It's obviously a factor. But after you've reached a certain basic level of attractiveness the sky's the limit. It depends on you. Most people become frustrated with the red pill though because all they ever applied was false confidence.
 
I, for my part, know I will only find peace when I'm no longer ashamed of my face. I don't care about sex, social status, validation, relationships, dating, satisfying my ego, deluding myself, what others think of me and all that superficial crap the majority of looksmaxers are obsessed with anymore; I just want to be somewhat content/comfortable with myself and who I am. It's impossible to ignore if you have obvious facial deformities once you're aware of them. So what's wrong with fixing those if it makes me feel better about myself?
Nothing's wrong with it, I guess. If it's an itch you're always gonna feel if you leave it unscratched.
 
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We don't. It's obviously a factor. But after you've reached a certain basic level of attractiveness the sky's the limit. It depends on you. Most people become
Nothing's wrong with it, I guess. If it's an itch you're always gonna feel if you leave it unscratched.
damn , always mirin your mentality and attitude
 
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so high bsso has a higher lower chance if nerv damage compared to low bsso?
 
so high bsso has a higher lower chance if nerv damage compared to low bsso?
I would say yes but there are no statistics on that I think
 
i wonder if certain form of rotation add/lower chances of nerv damage
Could very well be the case. The more it's stretched the higher the risk usually
 
severe nerve damage, meaning an extend that actually impacts you in everyday life, is extremely rare and can to almost 100% be avoided.

Looksmax, where basement fortnite players know more than surgeons.
 
This thread is about nerve damage after any type of jaw surgery. Many people here and on jawsurgeryforums are very afraid of jaw surgery due to possible nerve damage and therefore rather chose to rot with their stupidly recessed potato jaws instead of slaying their oneities.

Little do they know that severe nerve damage, meaning an extend that actually impacts you in everyday life, is extremely rare and can to almost 100% be avoided.

Some factors that influence the risk of nerve damage are:
- age
- surgeons skill
- the type of surgery. Generally the risk is as follows: Chin Wing > Genioplasty > low BSSO > high BSSO > Lefort1
- Vitamin B12 levels
- Immediacy of post surgical nerve trauma treatment

Since nerve complications after a lefort1 are much rarer than after a mandibular osteotomy, we will focus on the mandible.


View attachment 1133121

The nerve that's critical is the Nervus alveolaris inferior as shown above, running in the Canalis mandibulae and forming the Nervus mentalis by passing the Foramen mentale. It's the Nervus mentalis providing sensation to your chin and lower lip.

Loss or alteration of sensation is always a result of trauma caused mostly by stretching the nerve too much. Even a stretching of a mere 12% of it's initial length is said to cause altered sensation. Altered sensation can be classified as follows:

View attachment 1133130
The following image illustrates what nerve trauma looks like:

View attachment 1133145

Hypoesthesia and Paresthesia make up the vast majority of sensory disturbances and are usually caused by Neurapraxia or Axonotmesis. I myself suffer from Hypoesthesia in my chin and lower lip but by the end of the month I'll get treatment.

This is the key part of this thread: When you suffer from nerve damage, maxfacs will tell you to just wait and wait even more until you don't go to them anymore. The truth is, after 6 months it's a more than 80% likelyhood that the type of sensory disturbance you experience is what will be permanent.

BUT you shouldn't listen to them. Unless you suffer from Neurotmesis (the whole nerve is completely cut through, major fuck up from the surgeon) it's possible to have good recovery. As always, the better your starting point the better the possible end result after treatment. If you still have sensation disturbance 2 months post surgery go see a neurologist. With different measurements he can determine where the nerve has been damaged and once that part is localized there are different types of treatment.

A common method, that even works in some cases for Neurotmesis is by bringing the ends of the nerve together where it has been divided:
View attachment 1133148


If the gap is too long you can get a nerve transplant from you leg:

View attachment 1133149



These procedures can be done up to 3 years post surgery for the Nervus alveolaris inferior (some other nerves not involved in jaw surgery require much quicker treatment). However, the sooner treatment starts the better the prognosis. Consult your Neurologist 1 year post surgery at the very latest. Don't listen to your maxfac as he will always tell you to just wait.

These procedures can't give you a 100% recovery if you had initial hypoesthesia or worse. But combined with good health, laser therapy, acupuncture and your (hopefully) very young age it's EXTREMELY unlikely to get permanent, noticeable nerve damage.
Btw. insurance has to cover the neurologist treatment in most countries.

There's simply no more excuses not to get jaw surgery.
after genio revision my chin feels so fucked up, like paresthesia symptoms, 6months now so I guess it won't get better
 
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This thread is about nerve damage after any type of jaw surgery. Many people here and on jawsurgeryforums are very afraid of jaw surgery due to possible nerve damage and therefore rather chose to rot with their stupidly recessed potato jaws instead of slaying their oneities.

Little do they know that severe nerve damage, meaning an extend that actually impacts you in everyday life, is extremely rare and can to almost 100% be avoided.

Some factors that influence the risk of nerve damage are:
- age
- surgeons skill
- the type of surgery. Generally the risk is as follows: Chin Wing > Genioplasty > low BSSO > high BSSO > Lefort1
- Vitamin B12 levels
- Immediacy of post surgical nerve trauma treatment

Since nerve complications after a lefort1 are much rarer than after a mandibular osteotomy, we will focus on the mandible.


View attachment 1133121

The nerve that's critical is the Nervus alveolaris inferior as shown above, running in the Canalis mandibulae and forming the Nervus mentalis by passing the Foramen mentale. It's the Nervus mentalis providing sensation to your chin and lower lip.

Loss or alteration of sensation is always a result of trauma caused mostly by stretching the nerve too much. Even a stretching of a mere 12% of it's initial length is said to cause altered sensation. Altered sensation can be classified as follows:

View attachment 1133130
The following image illustrates what nerve trauma looks like:

View attachment 1133145

Hypoesthesia and Paresthesia make up the vast majority of sensory disturbances and are usually caused by Neurapraxia or Axonotmesis. I myself suffer from Hypoesthesia in my chin and lower lip but by the end of the month I'll get treatment.

This is the key part of this thread: When you suffer from nerve damage, maxfacs will tell you to just wait and wait even more until you don't go to them anymore. The truth is, after 6 months it's a more than 80% likelyhood that the type of sensory disturbance you experience is what will be permanent.

BUT you shouldn't listen to them. Unless you suffer from Neurotmesis (the whole nerve is completely cut through, major fuck up from the surgeon) it's possible to have good recovery. As always, the better your starting point the better the possible end result after treatment. If you still have sensation disturbance 2 months post surgery go see a neurologist. With different measurements he can determine where the nerve has been damaged and once that part is localized there are different types of treatment.

A common method, that even works in some cases for Neurotmesis is by bringing the ends of the nerve together where it has been divided:
View attachment 1133148


If the gap is too long you can get a nerve transplant from you leg:

View attachment 1133149



These procedures can be done up to 3 years post surgery for the Nervus alveolaris inferior (some other nerves not involved in jaw surgery require much quicker treatment). However, the sooner treatment starts the better the prognosis. Consult your Neurologist 1 year post surgery at the very latest. Don't listen to your maxfac as he will always tell you to just wait.

These procedures can't give you a 100% recovery if you had initial hypoesthesia or worse. But combined with good health, laser therapy, acupuncture and your (hopefully) very young age it's EXTREMELY unlikely to get permanent, noticeable nerve damage.
Btw. insurance has to cover the neurologist treatment in most countries.

There's simply no more excuses not to get jaw surgery.
do you have paresthesia
 
This thread is about nerve damage after any type of jaw surgery. Many people here and on jawsurgeryforums are very afraid of jaw surgery due to possible nerve damage and therefore rather chose to rot with their stupidly recessed potato jaws instead of slaying their oneities.

Little do they know that severe nerve damage, meaning an extend that actually impacts you in everyday life, is extremely rare and can to almost 100% be avoided.

Some factors that influence the risk of nerve damage are:
- age
- surgeons skill
- the type of surgery. Generally the risk is as follows: Chin Wing > Genioplasty > low BSSO > high BSSO > Lefort1
- Vitamin B12 levels
- Immediacy of post surgical nerve trauma treatment

Since nerve complications after a lefort1 are much rarer than after a mandibular osteotomy, we will focus on the mandible.


View attachment 1133121

The nerve that's critical is the Nervus alveolaris inferior as shown above, running in the Canalis mandibulae and forming the Nervus mentalis by passing the Foramen mentale. It's the Nervus mentalis providing sensation to your chin and lower lip.

Loss or alteration of sensation is always a result of trauma caused mostly by stretching the nerve too much. Even a stretching of a mere 12% of it's initial length is said to cause altered sensation. Altered sensation can be classified as follows:

View attachment 1133130
The following image illustrates what nerve trauma looks like:

View attachment 1133145

Hypoesthesia and Paresthesia make up the vast majority of sensory disturbances and are usually caused by Neurapraxia or Axonotmesis. I myself suffer from Hypoesthesia in my chin and lower lip but by the end of the month I'll get treatment.

This is the key part of this thread: When you suffer from nerve damage, maxfacs will tell you to just wait and wait even more until you don't go to them anymore. The truth is, after 6 months it's a more than 80% likelyhood that the type of sensory disturbance you experience is what will be permanent.

BUT you shouldn't listen to them. Unless you suffer from Neurotmesis (the whole nerve is completely cut through, major fuck up from the surgeon) it's possible to have good recovery. As always, the better your starting point the better the possible end result after treatment. If you still have sensation disturbance 2 months post surgery go see a neurologist. With different measurements he can determine where the nerve has been damaged and once that part is localized there are different types of treatment.

A common method, that even works in some cases for Neurotmesis is by bringing the ends of the nerve together where it has been divided:
View attachment 1133148


If the gap is too long you can get a nerve transplant from you leg:

View attachment 1133149



These procedures can be done up to 3 years post surgery for the Nervus alveolaris inferior (some other nerves not involved in jaw surgery require much quicker treatment). However, the sooner treatment starts the better the prognosis. Consult your Neurologist 1 year post surgery at the very latest. Don't listen to your maxfac as he will always tell you to just wait.

These procedures can't give you a 100% recovery if you had initial hypoesthesia or worse. But combined with good health, laser therapy, acupuncture and your (hopefully) very young age it's EXTREMELY unlikely to get permanent, noticeable nerve damage.
Btw. insurance has to cover the neurologist treatment in most countries.

There's simply no more excuses not to get jaw surgery.
I think I have paresthesia after genio, it's been 9 months now . How can I determine if it's just paresthesia and not another complication such as an infection
 
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How brutal is loss of sensation though?
 
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Very brutal. Half my lower lip is totally fucked. I can barely touch it without feeling extreme pain.
Special thanks goes out to Dr. B who managed to fuck it up so badly. It's not normal to have damage this bad after a chin wing.
 
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Getting my Trimax done mid 2023, this eases why concerns, good thread OP
 
This thread is about nerve damage after any type of jaw surgery. Many people here and on jawsurgeryforums are very afraid of jaw surgery due to possible nerve damage and therefore rather chose to rot with their stupidly recessed potato jaws instead of slaying their oneities.

Little do they know that severe nerve damage, meaning an extend that actually impacts you in everyday life, is extremely rare and can to almost 100% be avoided.

Some factors that influence the risk of nerve damage are:
- age
- surgeons skill
- the type of surgery. Generally the risk is as follows: Chin Wing > Genioplasty > low BSSO > high BSSO > Lefort1
- Vitamin B12 levels
- Immediacy of post surgical nerve trauma treatment

Since nerve complications after a lefort1 are much rarer than after a mandibular osteotomy, we will focus on the mandible.


View attachment 1133121

The nerve that's critical is the Nervus alveolaris inferior as shown above, running in the Canalis mandibulae and forming the Nervus mentalis by passing the Foramen mentale. It's the Nervus mentalis providing sensation to your chin and lower lip.

Loss or alteration of sensation is always a result of trauma caused mostly by stretching the nerve too much. Even a stretching of a mere 12% of it's initial length is said to cause altered sensation. Altered sensation can be classified as follows:

View attachment 1133130
The following image illustrates what nerve trauma looks like:

View attachment 1133145

Hypoesthesia and Paresthesia make up the vast majority of sensory disturbances and are usually caused by Neurapraxia or Axonotmesis. I myself suffer from Hypoesthesia in my chin and lower lip but by the end of the month I'll get treatment.

This is the key part of this thread: When you suffer from nerve damage, maxfacs will tell you to just wait and wait even more until you don't go to them anymore. The truth is, after 6 months it's a more than 80% likelyhood that the type of sensory disturbance you experience is what will be permanent.

BUT you shouldn't listen to them. Unless you suffer from Neurotmesis (the whole nerve is completely cut through, major fuck up from the surgeon) it's possible to have good recovery. As always, the better your starting point the better the possible end result after treatment. If you still have sensation disturbance 2 months post surgery go see a neurologist. With different measurements he can determine where the nerve has been damaged and once that part is localized there are different types of treatment.

A common method, that even works in some cases for Neurotmesis is by bringing the ends of the nerve together where it has been divided:
View attachment 1133148


If the gap is too long you can get a nerve transplant from you leg:

View attachment 1133149



These procedures can be done up to 3 years post surgery for the Nervus alveolaris inferior (some other nerves not involved in jaw surgery require much quicker treatment). However, the sooner treatment starts the better the prognosis. Consult your Neurologist 1 year post surgery at the very latest. Don't listen to your maxfac as he will always tell you to just wait.

These procedures can't give you a 100% recovery if you had initial hypoesthesia or worse. But combined with good health, laser therapy, acupuncture and your (hopefully) very young age it's EXTREMELY unlikely to get permanent, noticeable nerve damage.
Btw. insurance has to cover the neurologist treatment in most countries.

There's simply no more excuses not to get jaw surgery.
I want this what surgeons you suggest to not bitch my bimax and genio?
 
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Very brutal. Half my lower lip is totally fucked. I can barely touch it without feeling extreme pain.
Special thanks goes out to Dr. B who managed to fuck it up so badly. It's not normal to have damage this bad after a chin wing.
how do you know it's just nerves and not another complication such as a plate infection or tissue resorption
 
Very brutal. Half my lower lip is totally fucked. I can barely touch it without feeling extreme pain.
Special thanks goes out to Dr. B who managed to fuck it up so badly. It's not normal to have damage this bad after a chin wing.
JFL another epplesteins monster has been created.
 

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