lookism might be the best argument against an all loving god

[william.]

s tier argument

 

[coispet]

Yeah pretty interesting argument I agree

I personally believe in God but I’ve seen some debates regarding this topic and it’s tough to have a counter argument for it

What would the counter argument be? I can’t think of one myself

 

[HundredManSlayer]

“muh we’re all equal!”

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

lol

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

“muh we’re all equal!”

In the eyes of the Lord yes, but among our fellow man? Fuh naw

 

[topology]

What would the counter argument be? I can’t think of one myself

That it's just not an argument in any way shape or form.

That's like me saying "math is disproven due to it not being practical outside of school for most people"

 

[imontheloose]

Problem of evil overall is the most powerful atheist argument

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

i used to cope and make excuses thinking that maybe god had a plan. i didn’t realise how much i was deluding myself until i saw all the injustice and suffering around me

 

[imontheloose]

i used to cope and make excuses thinking that maybe god had a plan. i didn’t realise how much i was deluding myself until i saw all the injustice and suffering around me

Religion began when the first conman met the first fool

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

i used to cope and make excuses thinking that maybe god had a plan. i didn’t realise how much i was deluding myself until i saw all the injustice and suffering around me

Not sure why some people say that cope God wont help you on this earth, atleast not in the way you want him to

 

[william.]

Not sure why some people say that cope God wont help you on this earth, atleast not in the way you want him to

what religion are u

Problem of evil overall is the most powerful atheist argument

never seen any nutritious philosopher use lookism as a argument tho

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

what religion are u

Christian but I dont pray or attend mass going to hell so it doesnt matter

 

[imontheloose]

never seen any nutritious philosopher use lookism as a argument tho

Because it’s not that powerful on its own. You can justify human suffering as a theist by some form of poetic evil which is somewhat understandable.

What isn’t justifiable under all but sceptical theist slop is evil against animals. They do not experience this poetic evil and suffer far too much and unnecessarily, much worse than lookism. It’s the natural mechanism of life itself

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

Because it’s not that powerful on its own. You can justify human suffering as a theist by some form of poetic evil which is somewhat understandable.

What isn’t justifiable under all but sceptical theist slop is evil against animals. They do not experience this poetic evil and suffer far too much and unnecessarily, much worse than lookism. It’s the natural mechanism of life itself

Evil against animals? Like testing shampoo on animals and random drugs?

 

[imontheloose]

Evil against animals? Like testing shampoo on animals and random drugs?

No. Like larvae eating animals from the inside out and using their corpse as a shield from predators, zebras having their windpipes seize with a lion’s jaws wrapped around it for nearly half an hour as they slowly die, and so on. All of which could be resolved by the simplest of means which any human can think of… yet God couldn’t, or worse, didn’t care for

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

No. Like larvae eating animals from the inside out and using their corpse as a shield from predators, zebras having their windpipes seize over nearly half an hour as they slowly die, and so on. All of which could be resolved by the simplest of means which any humans can think of… yet God couldn’t, or worse, didn’t care for

Animals dont have souls like people do, they were given life but they werent made in the image of God. So if man can suffer why cant they?

 

[imontheloose]

Animals dont have souls like people do, they were given life but they werent made in the image of God. So if man can suffer why cant they?

Why need they is the question you must answer. Animals not having souls is the reason this is so strange. What is the reason for them suffering? Why must God make it the mechanism? Why must larvae eat the animals from the inside out?

Simply put, it’s what happens when a chemical accident creates biology and not an all-loving God making the world out of boredom.

 

[ikramy]

lol at the existence of evil argument already debunked

 

[william.]

Because it’s not that powerful on its own. You can justify human suffering as a theist by some form of poetic evil which is somewhat understandable.

What isn’t justifiable under all but sceptical theist slop is evil against animals. They do not experience this poetic evil and suffer far too much and unnecessarily, much worse than lookism. It’s the natural mechanism of life itself

alex O'conner ahh, but i agree. Its just that so and say no one uses lookism as an argument

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

Why need they is the question you must answer. Animals not having souls is the reason this is so strange. What is the reason for them suffering? Why must God make it the mechanism? Why must larvae eat the animals from the inside out?

Simply put, it’s what happens when a chemical accident creates biology and not an all-loving God making the world out of boredom.

Youre looking for a reason for something that just is, animals dont need to suffer they just do

 

[FlotPSL]

Problem of evil overall is the most powerful atheist argument

I prefer determinism

Theists despise determinism

 

[william.]

lol at the existence of evil argument already debunked

no its not lol

 

[imontheloose]

Youre looking for a reason for something that just is, animals dont need to suffer they just do

That “just is” is the reason God is so unlikely to exist. You’re backed into the corner of sceptical theism, “oh I don’t know, it’s just how it is and God just did it I don’t know, he knows not me”, it’s pathetic and shows a lack of sincerity.

 

[FlotPSL]

Animals dont have souls like people do, they were given life but they werent made in the image of God. So if man can suffer why cant they?

Humans are animals btw

 

[ikramy]

no its not lol

No evil = no choice = no test

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

That “just is” is the reason God is so unlikely to exist. You’re backed into the corner of sceptical theism, “oh I don’t know, it’s just how it is and God just did it I don’t know, he knows not me”, it’s pathetic and shows a lack of sincerity.

Youre trying to find human reason from a being above us, there is none, or there might be one and we just werent told why this is

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

Humans are animals btw

Sure, but animals dont have morals

 

[FlotPSL]

Btw guys

Before christianity 60-80% men didn't get to reproduce

 

[imontheloose]

alex O'conner ahh, but i agree. Its just that so and say no one uses lookism as an argument

Fellow Oxford Chad. This argument overall is very powerful, I’ve saw him list the problem of evil as one of his favourites, but I think it’s more damning than he does

 

[william.]

No evil = no choice = no test

there is tons of evil which is not chosen and lookism is by your belief only caused by god

 

[FlotPSL]

Sure, but animals dont have morals

Morality is a useless tool made by genetic betas

 

[imontheloose]

Youre trying to find human reason from a being above us, there is none, or there might be one and we just werent told why this is

That’s called delusion. You believe in something with no evidence and then have the brass neck to claim “there is a reason I just wasn’t told it”, well no shit because some caveman thousands of years ago made it up and didn’t think you’d all still believe it this far in the future

 

[william.]

Sure, but animals dont have morals

some animals literally do tho

 

[Daniel zacks]

I low-key like God because he gave us orgasms if he exists that the one good thing he's done

 

[Daniel zacks]

some animals literally do tho

Morals are overrated

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

some animals literally do tho

Loyalty to man or other animals wouldn't be morals

 

[FlotPSL]

No evil = no choice = no test

There is no free will so there is no choice

Your genetics influence everything

 

[imontheloose]

I prefer determinism

Theists despise determinism

Theism is very broad, most of the range comes from Christianity because of how vague and polar the teachings can be book to book

 

[Daniel zacks]

But monkeys have morals I'm referring to the Negroes

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

Morality is a useless tool made by genetic betas

So you do whatever you want when you want?

 

[polonaecel]

Yeah pretty interesting argument I agree

I personally believe in God but I’ve seen some debates regarding this topic and it’s tough to have a counter argument for it

What would the counter argument be? I can’t think of one myself

well we can assume that its our fault as humans for judging other because of looks

 

[FlotPSL]

So you do whatever you want when you want?

Yes exactly?

 

[Meteor21]

s tier argument

Depends if God mogs or not. If he doesn't mog then he's saying it doesn't matter.

 

[imontheloose]

well we can assume that its our fault as humans for judging other because of looks

That’s like blaming humans for seeing colours. It’s outside of the human will to choose how our brains evolved over millions of years

 

[polonaecel]

That’s like blaming humans for seeing colours. It’s outside of the human will to choose how our brains evolved over millions of years

yeah fair, im not into theology or these types of arguments

 

[Meteor21]

Yeah pretty interesting argument I agree

I personally believe in God but I’ve seen some debates regarding this topic and it’s tough to have a counter argument for it

What would the counter argument be? I can’t think of one myself

That we are all flawed and that brings us together, we need eachother.

 

[william.]

Not sure why some people say that cope God wont help you on this earth, atleast not in the way you want him to

there was no reason for him to create a test he knew we would fail then another test he knew we would fail
which the so called free will is ingenuine anyway because if god is all-knowing no other alternative could have ever been possible

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

That’s called delusion. You believe in something with no evidence and then have the brass neck to claim “there is a reason I just wasn’t told it”, well no shit because some caveman thousands of years ago made it up and didn’t think you’d all still believe it this far in the future

It might be delusion, Im not saying that God is 100% real im just choosing to believe he is

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

there was no reason for him to create a test he knew we would fail then another test he knew we would fail
which the so called free will is ingenuine anyway because if god is all-knowing no other alternative could have ever been possible

Eve wouldve never ate that apple if it wasnt for satan, we wouldve been fine if it werent for him

 

[william.]

So you do whatever you want when you want?

I would if there was no law

and having a moral compass does not prove anything