LOOKSMAXXER’S STUDY REVEALS shocking differences between what women, normie men, and PSL users find attractive in men

thecel said:
Good point bro. Just because PSL ratings are different from women’s ratings doesn’t mean ours are inaccurate. Women sometimes don’t know what they’re really attracted to.
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needs bigger sample sizes and more robust surveying technique imo. good study though, the results are interesting but probably not reliable
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Data is beautiful 🖤 Great thread but also, all of the aforementioned.

Looking forward to more 🥃🥃
 
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criminaly underrated thread can’t believe i haven’t seen this. best ive seen this year
 
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AsGoodAsItGets said:
I agree and love the nuance you brought between game and character. To me at a certain point my character or personality became my game, because socialising became second nature and just part of me and sex at the end of the night was just the cherry on top. That was nice and fulfilling tbh. But I also realized that what I earlier used to do ie core game ie jmulv (@CeeJay im glad you know about him, but I’m confused why you still think game doesnt matter, anyway). Jn the end, formulaic pickup leads to more sex but then it just becomes your life (probably could do that in your early 20s) and towards my later 20s I’ve gravitated more towards the redpill as well as covering some lost blackpill ground.
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jmulv game for anyone wanting to be like him

Dropbox

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thecel said:
on a scale of 0 to 10 how good is his game?
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Did you watch it? what do you think lol. I honestly feel like his 'game' is worse than the average 'normal' guy on the street, personally. He legit seems a bit socially uncalibrated, and nervous and doesn't seem to really have any 'charisma' or humour etc. It's a travesty he's been able to make a nice living from scamming incels into thinking he's a stud and buying his courses etc lol

I actually DO believe in 'game' as someone who has made a shit tonne of approaches and has gotten nearly all of his lays from cold approaching girls (although i'm not foolish enough to think that 'game' is more important than looks of course). But I really don't think he has any.

I'd say his game is 3/10. He gets points for approaching lots and at least showing intent etc but anyone paying him money thinking he has some sort of unique skillset that he can teach them is brain dead. Especially if they've seen his infields.
 
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Tldr?
 
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this basically means 90% of the advice on this side is "over the top"
 
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TheCEL
 
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No bro, All the normies were virtue signaling
You should listen to basment-dwelling PSL users instead
 
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Imagine not putting this in the BOB

@Kingkellz

Mods really seriously slacking
 
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thecel said:
Background: PSL Research Study

Earlier this week, I posted the following thread to get people to participate in my male aesthetics survey:


Here's the survey, which is now closed:

forms.gle

Perceptions of Male Attractiveness Study

How are perceptions of male attractiveness correlated with time spent in online looksmaxxing communities? Section 1: Personal Info
forms.gle forms.gle


RESULTS

The survey accumulated 92 responses.

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Analysis of Attractiveness Ratings

This section compares womens', normie males' and PSL males' answers. A normie male is defined as a man who is (1) not registered on a looksmaxxing site and (2) has not spent time on one. If a male respondent isn't classified as a normie, he's considered a PSL user.

Question 1: Which face is the most attractive? (6 options)

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Results:

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The normie guys' answers as a whole are almost identical to the females'. The PSL users are coping hard with their wide FWHR and wide skull ideals.

Question 2: Which man is the most attractive to women? (3 options)

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Results:

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The distribution of what the normie guys thought women found attractive is similar to what woman actually find attractive. On the other hand, PSL users are coping yet again, thinking women find a masculinized version of Nyle DiMarco to be the most attractive.

Question 3: Which side profile is the most attractive? (8 options)

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Results:

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This time, normies and PSL users find different kinds of side profiles attractive, and women prefer profiles in between the males' preferences. Normie men seem to think flat, recessed, and feminine morphs of Simon Nessman's profile are fairly attractive. PSL users tend to prefer more forward-grown side profiles.

Question 4: Which man has the most attractive EYES? (4 options)

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Results:

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When it comes to eye area, normie guys have it completely messed up. I was surprised to see that they thought the prey eyes were the most attractive. Although PSL users are similar to females in that they prefer hunter eyes, PSLers prefer the extremely hunter eyes to the moderately hunter eyes that women like the most.

Question 5: Which Ryan Gosling is the most attractive? (2 options)

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Results:

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Normie guys found the original Ryan Gosling the most attractive, and so did most women. About 40% of women preferred the compact midface morph, but only a few normie guys did. A little blackpill knowledge can get your taste in male aesthetics to be closer to womens'—but PSL users have gone too far and thought the compact morph was more attractive than women really found it to be.

Question 6: Which man is the most attractive? (2 options)

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Results:

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All 3 groups were very close on this question. It may be because Ryan Gosling has a long midface and this guy doesn't, and also might be because Ryan Gosling is a celebrity who women already find sexy.
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Yall really not get it? It was never about being forward grown or having short maxilla. Yes, that is a side effect of good development, but not how it is shown in those pictures

Recessed is all about the angle of the bite. Your face literally collapsing downward, thus dragging your soft tissues, your eye rims, your cheekbones, your nose.

The shape of maxilla is whats important. "Forward grown" and "long face" are just used for easier speech.

Whats trully important is upswing, and all of them have it, even guy number one.
 
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Everything ik about looks is wrong wtf
 
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The shown examples are all hyperbolic, faces on the opposite spectrum with bulging fucking bones are almost unheard of and dare I say not ideal for appeal. You’re kind of beating a dead horse with your argument since all the first examples were forward grown and good looking. So what point were you trying to make? I don’t think most psl users find the edited examples better looking than the original.

Facial averageness is still a big part of PSL that flies over peoples’ heads.
 
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1689359389882
 
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It’s proves the female gaze even more. That is why psl users get so mind fucked when they see women picking female gazed max men wipe normie males can kind of understand
 
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can’t relate said:
It’s proves the female gaze even more. That is why psl users get so mind fucked when they see women picking female gazed max men wipe normie males can kind of understand
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JFL at believing what women say. PSLers are right.
 
thecel said:
JFL at believing what women say. PSLers are right.
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It’s not what women say, it’s what women choose and what women choose and prefer is different to what psl men say. PSL users are. It right. Their idea of ideal male is autistic. Not only does this prove the female gaze but there are other study that prove what men (including PSL men) think women like is different to what women actually like and vice versa. PSL user jerk off to Sean oprey but when I show girls his pics they get grossed out and prefer someone like vinnie hacker or some TikTok looking boy or man
 
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this is a retarded post lmao you distorted the photos into unrecognizable inhuman edits. People are obviously going to pick the one that looks least edited and most normal. If you look at actual attractiveness studies the edits they make way less obvious: https://pocketdentistry.com/orthogn...ence-of-the-surgeons-background-on-treatment/
look at the photos, you can barely tell the differences but its enough to distinctly change their attractiveness. The important thing is they all look very human and realistic.
 
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thecel said:
Background: PSL Research Study

Earlier this week, I posted the following thread to get people to participate in my male aesthetics survey:


Here's the survey, which is now closed:

forms.gle

Perceptions of Male Attractiveness Study

How are perceptions of male attractiveness correlated with time spent in online looksmaxxing communities? Section 1: Personal Info
forms.gle forms.gle


RESULTS

The survey accumulated 92 responses.

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Analysis of Attractiveness Ratings

This section compares womens', normie males' and PSL males' answers. A normie male is defined as a man who is (1) not registered on a looksmaxxing site and (2) has not spent time on one. If a male respondent isn't classified as a normie, he's considered a PSL user.

Question 1: Which face is the most attractive? (6 options)

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Results:

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The normie guys' answers as a whole are almost identical to the females'. The PSL users are coping hard with their wide FWHR and wide skull ideals.

Question 2: Which man is the most attractive to women? (3 options)

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Results:

View attachment 1040750

The distribution of what the normie guys thought women found attractive is similar to what woman actually find attractive. On the other hand, PSL users are coping yet again, thinking women find a masculinized version of Nyle DiMarco to be the most attractive.

Question 3: Which side profile is the most attractive? (8 options)

View attachment 1040752


Results:

View attachment 1040753

This time, normies and PSL users find different kinds of side profiles attractive, and women prefer profiles in between the males' preferences. Normie men seem to think flat, recessed, and feminine morphs of Simon Nessman's profile are fairly attractive. PSL users tend to prefer more forward-grown side profiles.

Question 4: Which man has the most attractive EYES? (4 options)

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Results:

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When it comes to eye area, normie guys have it completely messed up. I was surprised to see that they thought the prey eyes were the most attractive. Although PSL users are similar to females in that they prefer hunter eyes, PSLers prefer the extremely hunter eyes to the moderately hunter eyes that women like the most.

Question 5: Which Ryan Gosling is the most attractive? (2 options)

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Results:

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Normie guys found the original Ryan Gosling the most attractive, and so did most women. About 40% of women preferred the compact midface morph, but only a few normie guys did. A little blackpill knowledge can get your taste in male aesthetics to be closer to womens'—but PSL users have gone too far and thought the compact morph was more attractive than women really found it to be.

Question 6: Which man is the most attractive? (2 options)

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Results:

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All 3 groups were very close on this question. It may be because Ryan Gosling has a long midface and this guy doesn't, and also might be because Ryan Gosling is a celebrity who women already find sexy.
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lots of problems with this study. basi aly you asked do you prefer this unrealistic looking photoshop or this actual human being? The photoshop almost always tries to depict a concept relating to proper craniofacial development (if the comparison was of 2 photoshops every time. i think the results would be more trustable). so i would take the results of this study with a grain of salt.
 
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Collagen or rope said:
close the forum

the only correct pill is the collegepill

ivy league or death
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ivy league is cope dog - only benefit is that ppl are more interesting and more incels to cope w/
 
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holy fuck

 
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Its because the users here seem to go overboard.

Girls are not as visual as us men is what people here seem to not understand.
 
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thecel said:
Background: PSL Research Study

Earlier this week, I posted the following thread to get people to participate in my male aesthetics survey:


Here's the survey, which is now closed:

forms.gle

Perceptions of Male Attractiveness Study

How are perceptions of male attractiveness correlated with time spent in online looksmaxxing communities? Section 1: Personal Info
forms.gle forms.gle


RESULTS

The survey accumulated 92 responses.

View attachment 1040734






Analysis of Attractiveness Ratings

This section compares womens', normie males' and PSL males' answers. A normie male is defined as a man who is (1) not registered on a looksmaxxing site and (2) has not spent time on one. If a male respondent isn't classified as a normie, he's considered a PSL user.

Question 1: Which face is the most attractive? (6 options)

View attachment 1040743


Results:

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The normie guys' answers as a whole are almost identical to the females'. The PSL users are coping hard with their wide FWHR and wide skull ideals.

Question 2: Which man is the most attractive to women? (3 options)

View attachment 1040749


Results:

View attachment 1040750

The distribution of what the normie guys thought women found attractive is similar to what woman actually find attractive. On the other hand, PSL users are coping yet again, thinking women find a masculinized version of Nyle DiMarco to be the most attractive.

Question 3: Which side profile is the most attractive? (8 options)

View attachment 1040752


Results:

View attachment 1040753

This time, normies and PSL users find different kinds of side profiles attractive, and women prefer profiles in between the males' preferences. Normie men seem to think flat, recessed, and feminine morphs of Simon Nessman's profile are fairly attractive. PSL users tend to prefer more forward-grown side profiles.

Question 4: Which man has the most attractive EYES? (4 options)

View attachment 1040755


Results:

View attachment 1040758

When it comes to eye area, normie guys have it completely messed up. I was surprised to see that they thought the prey eyes were the most attractive. Although PSL users are similar to females in that they prefer hunter eyes, PSLers prefer the extremely hunter eyes to the moderately hunter eyes that women like the most.

Question 5: Which Ryan Gosling is the most attractive? (2 options)

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Results:

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Normie guys found the original Ryan Gosling the most attractive, and so did most women. About 40% of women preferred the compact midface morph, but only a few normie guys did. A little blackpill knowledge can get your taste in male aesthetics to be closer to womens'—but PSL users have gone too far and thought the compact morph was more attractive than women really found it to be.

Question 6: Which man is the most attractive? (2 options)

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Results:

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All 3 groups were very close on this question. It may be because Ryan Gosling has a long midface and this guy doesn't, and also might be because Ryan Gosling is a celebrity who women already find sexy.
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i mean its not shocking bro obviously groups of people find different stuff more attractive
 
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