Mass immigration is good

[Skara]

He is genuinely too retarded to understand this. He’ll respond with some cope

a lot of noise but 0 arguments once again

 

[TiktokUser]

a lot of noise but 0 arguments once again

Even when I explained to you that GDP plummeted and housing, infrastructure, quality of life plummeted. You still argue and say mass immigration is good

Mind blowing retardation

 

[FiendFiend]

I would say only for low-skilled workers and young people who are now competing with migrants for jobs and housing, for everyone else it is more profitable than not

He is genuinely too retarded to understand this. He’ll respond with some cope

Its fucking hilarious to me how OP is trying to justify lowering wages for blue collar jobs and entry level jobs, (that most of the population work), increasing in house prices, and less social cohesion.

 

[FiendFiend]

Even when I explained to you that GDP plummeted and housing, infrastructure, quality of life plummeted. You still argue and say mass immigration is good

Mind blowing retardation

in his brain the 1% , and retirees who own homes are the only people who should stand to benefit in society

 

[Skara]

Even when I explained to you that GDP plummeted and housing, infrastructure, quality of life plummeted. You still argue and say mass immigration is good

Mind blowing retardation

You didn't explain that gdp plummeted, idiot

 

[Skara]

in his brain the 1% , and retirees who own homes are the only people who should stand to benefit in society

No. Cuz not everyone owns their property. Also most people work till 60. So you could say in theory the people who "benefit" are boomers who own their houses. Even then they have kids and grandkids who they want to be successful and fucking work and live normal lives.

those who are against immigration rather they just don't like that there is more competition. competition stimulates development and therefore it is beneficial to all layers of society indirectly. Your argument is as untenable as @TiktokUser

 

[Skara]

dudes still believing that jews are fully behind the whole mass migration to europe in the big 25 im dying bro

@TiktokUser believes that shit too because think that the jews want to destroy his god chosen race

 

[FiendFiend]

those who are against immigration rather they just don't like that there is more competition. competition stimulates development and therefore it is beneficial to all layers of society indirectly. Your argument is as untenable as @TiktokUser

Competition is good at the high levels, to make new entrepenuers. Importing indians to work in fucking 7/11 or mexicans to steal blue collar jobs doesnt create good competition, it just drives down wages and increases house prices. I would agree with you if more Billionaire and millionaire migrants coming in would be a good thing, cuz competition in the higher class creates more jobs, more companies.

U cant just use buzz words like "muh more competition". U clearly dont know what ur talking about bro

 

[FiendFiend]

You didn't explain that gdp plummeted, idiot

canada and UK are perfect examples, the GDP per capita, and GDP are actually dropping like crazy, but covered under the mask of mass migration. The economci growth isnt as fast as the population increase

 

[TiktokUser]

You didn't explain that gdp plummeted, idiot

OECD data, 2023 – GDP per capita stagnation across high-immigration nations

Yes I did? You just never even bothered to actually read the studies cause you’re retarded. Like bruh go back to elementary school

 

[Skara]

Competition is good at the high levels, to make new entrepenuers. Importing indians to work in fucking 7/11 or mexicans to steal blue collar jobs doesnt create good competition, it just drives down wages and increases house prices. I would agree with you if more Billionaire and millionaire migrants coming in would be a good thing, cuz competition in the higher class creates more jobs, more companies.

okay i agree

canada and UK are perfect examples, the GDP per capita, and GDP are actually dropping like crazy, but covered under the mask of mass migration. The economci growth isnt as fast as the population increase

would probably decline even faster without immigration, and we must not overlook the aging population and low birth rates

 

[TiktokUser]

@TiktokUser believes that shit too because think that the jews want to destroy his god chosen race

I’m not even white

And the countries are literally getting destroyed, yet you refuse to even look at the economic data presented because of your cognitive dissonance

 

[Skara]

Yes I did? You just never even bothered to actually read the studies cause you’re retarded. Like bruh go back to elementary school

I don't want to read them because they are not about what I'm talking about, idiot

 

[TiktokUser]

I don't want to read them because they are not about what I'm talking about, idiot

@FiendFiend do you see what I mean. He doesn’t want to read studies about immigration, when he is talking about immigration

Yet he still wants to say mass immigration is good

full blown retard

 

[AustrianMogger]

there are not enough workers - that means they need people. That's it. No magic. And the Nazis who shout about 'great replacement' don't even understand that it is immigrants who save their economies from degradation. Without them - less taxes, less consumption, fewer workers, higher prices. Their 'pure nation' is bankrupt.
Immigration is simply a logical response to economic and demographic demands, and not a "Jewish attacking against the white race"
>B-but muh they destroy out culture
the culture doesn't belong to you, it's not your personal thing, and therefore why are you protecting it?

kys

 

[FiendFiend]

would probably decline even faster without immigration, and we must not overlook the aging population and low birth rates

No this isnt true bro. Its a self fuffilling prophecy - import more migrants - cost of living is literally unbearable for people cuz of the migrants - then say the native people arent having enough kids, so u should import more.

 

[Skara]

I’m not even white

I am of European descent but also not white

And the countries are literally getting destroyed, yet you refuse to even look at the economic data presented because of your cognitive dissonance

"countries are literally getting destroyed" your subjective perception

 

[Skara]

No this isnt true bro. Its a self fuffilling prophecy - import more migrants - cost of living is literally unbearable for people cuz of the migrants - then say the native people arent having enough kids, so u should import more.

wrong.
Birth rates began to decline in the mid-20th century, and mass immigration is a recent phenomenon

 

[TiktokUser]

I am of European descent but also not white


"countries are literally getting destroyed" your subjective perception

it’s not “subjective”, when it is literally in the studies you refuse to read because your illiterate

The GDP is not good, the wages are not good, the quality of life is not good. Yet yeah bro the countries fine with mass immigration!

 

[FiendFiend]

would probably decline even faster without immigration, and we must not overlook the aging population and low birth rates

btw we have been in lower points of birth rates in history in the 70s and 80s. Birthrates always fluctuate. I explained why Millennials arent having much kids. They are the most liberal generation in history - and are having low birth rates like their parents (the boomers) did. Its only a natural phenomenon.

If we wanted more population so desperately, we would ban contraception , like how it was done post ww2 in europe. Make the right economic conditions for it.

After the 2008 financial crisis, birthrates flopped - and also it was millennials turns to have kids + covid happend. Birthrates will go up naturally. Birth rates are recovering and going back up again. Migration is just stopping this natural process.

 

[Skara]

it’s not “subjective”, when it is literally in the studies you refuse to read because your illiterate

The GDP is not good, the wages are not good, the quality of life is not good. Yet yeah bro the countries fine with mass immigration!

This is nonsense. Immigration is not the cause of the problem, but its consequence.
also learn what subjective means

 

[FiendFiend]

wrong.
Birth rates began to decline in the mid-20th century, and mass immigration is a recent phenomenon

Nope. Fertility rates were dog shit in the 70s and 80s. Also fertility rates reached insanely high levels after ww2 in the 50s. They were low in the 20s before too. That was a one off time.

The boomers didnt have much kids in 70s and 80s, at similiar rates we have now. Its a natural phenomenon. No "population collapse" would happen.

 

[Skara]

btw we have been in lower points of birth rates in history in the 70s and 80s. Birthrates always fluctuate. I explained why Millennials arent having much kids. They are the most liberal generation in history - and are having low birth rates like their parents (the boomers) did. Its only a natural phenomenon.

If we wanted more population so desperately, we would ban contraception , like how it was done post ww2 in europe. Make the right economic conditions for it.

After the 2008 financial crisis, birthrates flopped - and also it was millennials turns to have kids + covid happend. Birthrates will go up naturally. Birth rates are recovering and going back up again. Migration is just stopping this natural process.

Until the 1970s, the decline in birth rates was compensated by earlier marriages and social pressures (for example, the stigma around childlessness).

Now the birth rate is falling due to fundamental changes.
So your comparison is incorrect.
Liberal views are a consequence, not a cause: people do not believe that the state or the economy will support a large family.
If we wanted more population, we would ban contraception" – utopian
Birth rates will go up naturally" – no evidence

 

[TiktokUser]

This is nonsense. Immigration is not the cause of the problem, but its consequence.
also learn what subjective means

Mass immigration literally only increases the disparity and makes it worse. Full blown retard just continues to shift the goal post

A peer reviewed study is not “subjective.” You stupid kike

 

[Skara]

Nope. Fertility rates were dog shit in the 70s and 80s. Also fertility rates reached insanely high levels after ww2 in the 50s. They were low in the 20s before too. That was a one off time.

The boomers didnt have much kids in 70s and 80s, at similiar rates we have now. Its a natural phenomenon. No "population collapse" would happen.

It is incorrect to compare that era with the present day - demographic and economic conditions have changed greatly

 

[FiendFiend]

Until the 1970s, the decline in birth rates was compensated by earlier marriages and social pressures (for example, the stigma around childlessness).

Now the birth rate is falling due to fundamental changes.
So your comparison is incorrect.
Liberal views are a consequence, not a cause: people do not believe that the state or the economy will support a large family.
If we wanted more population, we would ban contraception" – utopian
Birth rates will go up naturally" – no evidence

Dude the 70s was full of hippies who did drugs, and were more degenerate than us... Being childlessness didnt matter cuz they were all "rebels" against their parents.

Idk why people think the 70s or some shit were this conservative time period... The boomers literally went in the desert had orgies, went to more college parties than we ever would, ran frat houses, fucked like animals, imported so much shrooms and drugs it caused a massive fucking crisis, they were behind leglaizing abortion, the sexual revolution.

Dawg what r u on about. I explained to u every reason why birth rates will go up naturally if ur just too slow to accept that im sorry bro it sounds like a u problem.

 

[Skara]

Mass immigration literally only increases the disparity and makes it worse. Full blown retard just continues to shift the goal post

A peer reviewed study is not “subjective.” You stupid kike

and who told you that immigration should reduce inequality? all you have is hatred for the bourgeoisie, whom you call Jews lol commie. the fact that immigration increases inequality does not cancel its economic and demographic necessity, degenerate.
"Without immigration, everything will be fixed" → No, without it there will be collapse.

 

[FiendFiend]

It is incorrect to compare that era with the present day - demographic and economic conditions have changed greatly

I wonder why economic conditions for the middle and lower class have got shittier maybe migration? ever thought of that nigga?

States with the lowest migration and most white states are doing absolutely fine right now with fertility rates btw.

 

[FiendFiend]

and who told you that immigration should reduce inequality? all you have is hatred for the bourgeoisie, whom you call Jews lol commie. the fact that immigration increases inequality does not cancel its economic and demographic necessity, degenerate.
"Without immigration, everything will be fixed" → No, without it there will be collapse.

Bro why are u coping u literally were left speechless and I debunked every point about your "collapse".

 

[bululu_87]

there are not enough workers - that means they need people. That's it. No magic. And the Nazis who shout about 'great replacement' don't even understand that it is immigrants who save their economies from degradation. Without them - less taxes, less consumption, fewer workers, higher prices. Their 'pure nation' is bankrupt.
Immigration is simply a logical response to economic and demographic demands, and not a "Jewish attacking against the white race"
>B-but muh they destroy out culture
the culture doesn't belong to you, it's not your personal thing, and therefore why are you protecting it?

I agree. No man that was raised in a first world country is gonna work as a farmer, cleaner, construction etc
However immigrants are ready to work these jobs

A country like Germany for example will go completely bankrupt If the immigrants are reduced to 0. Do you think a German man is gonna go and work as a farmer? Would YOU go to work as a farmer?

They just don't realize that their country takes care of immigrants because it's of their benefits and not because their politicians have an ethnic fetish

 

[Skara]

Dude the 70s was full of hippies who did drugs, and were more degenerate than us... Being childlessness didnt matter cuz they were all "rebels" against their parents.

Idk why people think the 70s or some shit were this conservative time period... The boomers literally went in the desert had orgies, went to more college parties than we ever would, ran frat houses, fucked like animals, imported so much shrooms and drugs it caused a massive fucking crisis, they were behind leglaizing abortion, the sexual revolution.

Dawg what r u on about. I explained to u every reason why birth rates will go up naturally if ur just too slow to accept that im sorry bro it sounds like a u problem.

In the 70s, the birth rate was falling, but there were a LOT of boomers, so their children (millennials) were enough for stability.
Now the generation is smaller, and the economy is worse, so even if the birth rate "grows", there will not be enough children to replace them. Sex does not equal children: in the 70s there was no childfree culture and cheap abortions, but now there is.
Zoomers want children even less than millennials, it is naive to expect "natural growth".

 

[Skara]

Bro why are u coping u literally were left speechless and I debunked every point about your "collapse".

you did not debunk shit

 

[90%er Gigachink]

For non whites definitely. Also brings down the competition.

 

[TiktokUser]

and who told you that immigration should reduce inequality? all you have is hatred for the bourgeoisie, whom you call Jews lol commie. the fact that immigration increases inequality does not cancel its economic and demographic necessity, degenerate.
"Without immigration, everything will be fixed" → No, without it there will be collapse.

Jfl at your brain for producing so much cancer

You realize mass immigration has led to the countries declining growth. So how has it led to economic growth exactly.

 

[Skara]

I agree. No man that was raised in a first world country is gonna work as a farmer, cleaner, construction etc
However immigrants are ready to work these jobs

A country like Germany for example will go completely bankrupt If the immigrants are reduced to 0. Do you think a German man is gonna go and work as a farmer? Would YOU go to work as a farmer?

They just don't realize that their country takes care of immigrants because it's of their benefits and not because their politicians have an ethnic fetish

I don't understand what the idiots in this thread are arguing about, it's more important for them to preserve "their national identity" (which is not really theirs) than to live well. That's why they cover up their nationalism with pseudo-logical arguments about economics lol
@TiktokUser @FiendFiend

 

[Skara]

Jfl at your brain for producing so much cancer

You realize mass immigration has led to the countries declining growth. So how has it led to economic growth exactly.

I never mentioned economic growth in my argument, learn to read better. Although for you GDP per capita is economic growth because you are a degenerate

 

[TiktokUser]

I never mentioned economic growth in my argument, learn to read better. Although for you GDP per capita is economic growth because you are a degenerate

Then explain what you mean by “economic and demographic necessity”

I don't understand what the idiots in this thread are arguing about, it's more important for them to preserve "their national identity" (which is not really theirs) than to live well. That's why they cover up their nationalism with pseudo-logical arguments about economics lol
@TiktokUser @FiendFiend

Canada, one of the biggest agricultural producers, in 2021, immigrants accounted for 8.2% of farm operators, while the rest (about 91.8%) were Canadian born.

So no you’re just blatantly fucking retarded lmao. Farmers quit and kill themselves because their government screws them the fuck over

Hiring immigrants will only just allow for them to be paid like shit, and for the country to rely on giving out shittier wages only third worlders will do.

You say everything with no fucking actual statistics, just pseudoscience. It all comes from your unwiped ass

 

[Skara]

Then explain what you mean by “economic and demographic necessity”

by that i mean compensation for the aging population, labor shortages, problems with the pension system, the need to maintain consumption levels, etc.

Canada, one of the biggest agricultural producers, in 2021, immigrants accounted for 8.2% of farm operators, while the rest (about 91.8%) were Canadian born.

So no you’re just blatantly fucking retarded lmao. Farmers quit and kill themselves because their government screws them the fuck over

Hiring immigrants will only just allow for them to be paid like shit. You say everything with no fucking actual statistics. It all comes from your unwiped ass

The fact that only 8.2% of farmers in Canada are immigrants does not disprove my argument about the priority of well-being. This may be due to many factors: the complexity of farming, lack of financing, problems with land, etc.

 

[FiendFiend]

I don't understand what the idiots in this thread are arguing about, it's more important for them to preserve "their national identity" (which is not really theirs) than to live well. That's why they cover up their nationalism with pseudo-logical arguments about economics lol
@TiktokUser @FiendFiend

omfg u fucking retard i dont give a flying fuck if im with a negro , a white, a spic. I dont give a fuck. Its not about race for me. If anything I can do more JBW game if there is more diversity.

You fucking retard i explained to u why mass migration is destroying living standards. I think I care about whether I can work a stable job, have kids and shit, having my own house , before I give a fuck about the race of my neighbours.

 

[Skara]

omfg u fucking retard i dont give a flying fuck if im with a negro , a white, a spic. I dont give a fuck. Its not about race for me. If anything I can do more JBW game if there is more diversity.

You fucking retard i explained to u why mass migration is destroying living standards. I think I care about whether I can work a stable job, have kids and shit, having my own house , before I give a fuck about the race of my neighbours.

"muh muh you retard muh JBW negro i debunked your shit muh muh"
JFL at this argumentation lvl. Kys.

 

[FiendFiend]

In the 70s, the birth rate was falling, but there were a LOT of boomers, so their children (millennials) were enough for stability.
Now the generation is smaller, and the economy is worse, so even if the birth rate "grows", there will not be enough children to replace them. Sex does not equal children: in the 70s there was no childfree culture and cheap abortions, but now there is.
Zoomers want children even less than millennials, it is naive to expect "natural growth".

Exactly... despite gen z having pretty solid birth rates, there are still slightly more millenials than Gen z. My point is however that birthrates always fluctuate, and if birth rates are the issue we should roll back abortion "rights" , and a lot of the laws around the time of the sexual revolution , ban on contraceptives, making good economic conditions for middle and lower class instead of making wealth flow to the higher classes

 

[FiendFiend]

"muh muh you retard muh JBW negro i debunked your shit muh muh"
JFL at this argumentation lvl. Kys.

yeah ur the retarded 1 who thinks Im debating because I dont like brown people or some shit ah yes bro i get so fucking mad and riled up when i see a 7/11 indian worker fr. You have freedom of movement, if u want to live in a white area, u can live in a white area, if u wanna live in an ethnic area, u can live in one too. That isnt my issue. My issue is the economic issues that make my life way worse

 

[Skara]

birth rates are the issue we should roll back abortion "rights" , and a lot of the laws around the time of the sexual revolution , ban on contraceptives,

yeah, maybe also coercion to force everyone to fuck, and in case of refusal send people to the gulag? what a stupid argument of yours lol

making good economic conditions for middle and lower class instead of making wealth flow to the higher classes

cool

 

[Skara]

yeah ur the retarded 1 who thinks Im debating because I dont like brown people or some shit ah yes bro i get so fucking mad and riled up when i see a 7/11 indian worker fr. You have freedom of movement, if u want to live in a white area, u can live in a white area, if u wanna live in an ethnic area, u can live in one too. That isnt my issue. My issue is the economic issues that make my life way worse

okay I'm wrong in giving you such an assessment, in any case your arguments are unconvincing

 

[FiendFiend]

yeah, maybe also coercion to force everyone to fuck, and in case of refusal send people to the gulag? what a stupid argument of yours lol

cool

No... Im just saying if u care about birth rates so much (which i dont care about because i know naturally they will go up) before importing millions of indians to destroy your economy, your housing, and destroy living conditions for people u should be willing to sacrifice some social rights instead of doing all that. ur just dishonest asf bhai

 

[TiktokUser]

by that i mean compensation for the aging population, labor shortages, problems with the pension system, the need to maintain consumption levels, etc.

This is a literal short term fix. But because you don’t understand anything about the concepts of economics you’ll think this will actually work

Immigration will temporarily fill labor gaps, but it doesn’t fix the underlying demographic decline, especially when most immigrants eventually age too. Adding more people without proportional investment in infrastructure (housing, healthcare, schools) creates more pressure, not relief. immigration doesn’t significantly improve the old age dependency ratio long term unless birth rates rise too, which they don’t because the actual problem is not being fixed, which led to the citizens not having kids in the first place

The fact that only 8.2% of farmers in Canada are immigrants does not disprove my argument about the priority of well-being. This may be due to many factors: the complexity of farming, lack of financing, problems with land, etc.

It Literally does, you’re just to stubborn to admit your wrong. You claimed immigration is economically and demographically necessary, and then tried to pivot to labor shortages in sectors like agriculture as proof. But when the data shows immigrants make up less than 10% of Canadian farm operators, you suddenly say, “muh there are other reasons ” That’s again, called moving the goalposts.

Like high barriers to entry, lack of land access, capital requirements, and low margins, all of which immigrants don’t magically solve. So stop pretending “ muh immigration = solution ”

full blown retard

 

[Skara]

i know naturally they will go up

I think I've already explained to you why it's naive to believe this

 

[FiendFiend]

okay I'm wrong in giving you such an assessment, in any case your arguments are unconvincing

My arguments completely make sense and can be observed in comparison the USA and Canada. Canada has experienced double the migration compared to population than the USA did. Where do u think living conditions for the middle/lower class are better. The US or canada?

 

[FiendFiend]

I think I've already explained to you why it's naive to believe this

well i've showed u previous patterns since the 20s, and 70s and now in the 2020s. This phenomenon occurs every 50 years where birth rates drop

 

[Skara]

This is a literal short term fix. But because you don’t understand anything about the concepts of economics you’ll think this will actually work

Immigration will temporarily fill labor gaps, but it doesn’t fix the underlying demographic decline, especially when most immigrants eventually age too. Adding more people without proportional investment in infrastructure (housing, healthcare, schools) creates more pressure, not relief. immigration doesn’t significantly improve the old age dependency ratio long term unless birth rates rise too, which they don’t because the actual problem is not being fixed, which led to the citizens not having kids in the first place



It Literally does, you’re just to stubborn to admit your wrong. You claimed immigration is economically and demographically necessary, and then tried to pivot to labor shortages in sectors like agriculture as proof. But when the data shows immigrants make up less than 10% of Canadian farm operators, you suddenly say, “muh there are other reasons ” That’s again, called moving the goalposts.

Like high barriers to entry, lack of land access, capital requirements, and low margins, all of which immigrants don’t magically solve. So stop pretending “ muh immigration = solution ”

full blown retard

and I didn't say that in the long term it's just as effective, migration is needed to compensate for current problems, not future ones, idiot. What a moron you are, kill your mother for giving birth to you lol