MOUTHBREATHING DIDN'T RECESS YOU (HIGH-IQ/EFFORT THREAD)

[neverchadlite]

Another graycel banger.
As I woke up this morning, I took a good look in the mirror as I usually do.

Nothing changed.
I'm still a 6ft tall pretty boy, a chadlite by this forum's standard. @pneumocystosis will vouch for me (check your PM's you british bastard).

Despite this, I've been haunted by the idea that seasonal/nocturnal mouthbreathing may have stunted my potential. I mean, I could still land a modelling job right now, but fuck me I would be on the cover of Vogue magazine if I never mouth breathed...




Right?

My journey kicked off where every great discovery starts... Reddit
I was browsing r/Orthotropics and I was unceasingly cringing and caging at every thread I opened. These guys were simply retarded. Were these the folk I believed a few years ago? How could a high-IQ specimen like myself follow these neanderthals?

"Muh just mew bro", "muh muh I'm ugly and recessed because of environment not genetics!!!". JFL

It was pissing me off i just had to do some actual research.



( Chalamet is playing a recessed kid and Steve Carell a high-iq looksmaxxer )


Anyway, here's what I discovered: it's just nonsense. The data is exclusively retrospective, and the conclusions that are drawn from it are inappropriate. It's a classic situation of correlation not being causation. the data does not demonstrate if facial structure leads to mouth breathing, or mouth breathing leads to different facial structures.

Here are some studies that show that mouthbreathing recessing you is cope. Genes with a half decent environment will be fully carried out. It will only screw you up if you're a mouth-breathing-only 24/7, 365d/y caveman JFL.

Spoiler: Non-Jewish studies

Transverse craniofacial dimensions in Angle Class II, Division 1 malocclusion according to breathing mode - PubMed

The aim of this longitudinal study was to assess the relation between the transverse craniofacial dimensions of subjects with Class II, Division 1 malocclusion and the breathing mode presented by them. Forty Angle Class II, Division 1 malocclusion subjects of both genders participated in the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

A study on the relationship between mouth breathing and facial morphological pattern - PubMed

it was not possible to prove the existence of an association between oral breathing and facial type.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

For you short-attention-spancels:

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Another kike psyop exposed and washed.

Spoiler: Tags: High-IQ only

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@pneumocystosis
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@garoupilled_
@Iasacrko
@Birdcell
@5Percenter

 

[Magnum Opus]

Send your face in dm

 

[neverchadlite]

Send your face in dm

Like the post at least you retard

 

[Magnum Opus]

Like the post at least you retard

Did, now send

 

[ballakaseema]

be prepared for the train of replies here in about a hour nigga

 

[neverchadlite]

be prepared for the train of replies here in about a hour nigga

 

[Narcissus🥀]

Pm your face and let's discuss the topic in private

 

[neverchadlite]

Pm your face and let's discuss the topic in private

You sound like a faggot

 

[Narcissus🥀]

You sound like a faggot

Wtf is wrong with you?
Why would you say that?

 

[Magnum Opus]

Claims to be CL for this forums standards and then ignores PM requests / insults them you narcy clown, always these retarded greycels that think they're HTN or Chadlite while in reality they're plain ugly

 

[Deleted member 4397]

cage at the beautiful boy clip

 

[neverchadlite]

Claims to be CL for this forums standards and then ignores PM requests / insults them you narcy clown, always these retarded greycels that think they're HTN or Chadlite while in reality they're plain ugly

I was afraid you would dox but I'll send it right now baby.

 

[Youㅤ]

Didn’t assess chewing and facial form.

 

[neverchadlite]

Didn’t assess chewing and facial form.

I will in my next thread. It will qualify for BOTB akhi.

 

[Youㅤ]

Euriprosopic (Total=14; oral breathers 2.52%, nasal breathers 9.24%

Hmm… euriproscopic is a short and broad face

A study on the relationship between mouth breathing and facial morphological pattern - PubMed​

it was not possible to prove the existence of an association between oral breathing and facial type.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[eduardkoopman]

"Muh just mew bro", "muh muh I'm ugly and recessed because of environment not genetics!!!". JFL

Mewing cope, is still advertised here and in "blackpill places".
No one is gonna ascend, into a forward grown mogger, due to mewing. it's a cope waiste of time, for 95+% of people. It only helps for teeth/dental health, to not be 24/7 mouth breather. So it's good to have a closed mouth, which I assume about 95+% off people do naturally anyways.

 

[Youㅤ]

I will in my next thread. It will qualify for BOTB akhi.

About breathing, have you seen the study where they plugged monkey’s noses leading to altered facial form?

 

[Youㅤ]

No one is gonna ascend, into a forward grown mogger, due to mewing

Not true if they start as a child

 

[neverchadlite]

About breathing, have you seen the study where they plugged monkey’s noses leading to altered facial form?

It will only screw you up if you're a mouth-breathing-only 24/7, 365d/y caveman JFL.

 

[neverchadlite]

Mewing cope, is still advertised here and in "blackpill places".
No one is gonna ascend, into a forward grown mogger, due to mewing. it's a cope waiste of time, for 95+% of people. It only helps for teeth/dental health, to not be 24/7 mouth breather. So it's good to have a closed mouth, which I assume about 95+% off people do naturally anyways.

You hit the nail on the head, mirin high-iq brother.

 

[tren_31]

Another graycel banger.
As I woke up this morning, I took a good look in the mirror as I usually do.

Nothing changed, I was immediately depressed by my flat zygos, steep gonial angle and weak chin.
I'm still a 6ft tall pretty boy, a chadlite by this forum's standard. @pneumocystosis will vouch for me (check your PM's you british bastard).

Despite this, I've been haunted by the idea that seasonal/nocturnal mouthbreathing may have stunted my potential. I mean, I could still land a modelling job right now, but fuck me I would be on the cover of Vogue magazine if I never mouth breathed...




Right?

My journey kicked off where every great discovery starts... Reddit
I was browsing r/Orthotropics and I was unceasingly cringing and caging at every thread I opened. These guys were simply retarded. Were these the folk I believed a few years ago? How could a high-IQ specimen like myself follow these neanderthals?

View attachment 2608702


"Muh just mew bro", "muh muh I'm ugly and recessed because of environment not genetics!!!". JFL

It was pissing me off i just had to do some actual research.



( Chalamet is playing a recessed kid and Steve Carell a high-iq looksmaxxer )


Anyway, here's what I discovered: it's just nonsense. The data is exclusively retrospective, and the conclusions that are drawn from it are inappropriate. It's a classic situation of correlation not being causation. the data does not demonstrate if facial structure leads to mouth breathing, or mouth breathing leads to different facial structures.

Here are some studies that show that mouthbreathing recessing you is cope. Genes with a half decent environment will be fully carried out. It will only screw you up if you're a mouth-breathing-only 24/7, 365d/y caveman JFL.

Spoiler: Non-Jewish studies

Transverse craniofacial dimensions in Angle Class II, Division 1 malocclusion according to breathing mode - PubMed

The aim of this longitudinal study was to assess the relation between the transverse craniofacial dimensions of subjects with Class II, Division 1 malocclusion and the breathing mode presented by them. Forty Angle Class II, Division 1 malocclusion subjects of both genders participated in the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

A study on the relationship between mouth breathing and facial morphological pattern - PubMed

it was not possible to prove the existence of an association between oral breathing and facial type.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

For you short-attention-spancels:

1.
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2.
View attachment 2608765

Another kike psyop exposed and washed.

Spoiler: Tags: High-IQ only

@ReadBooksEveryday
@pneumocystosis
@enchanted_elixir
@garoupilled_
@Iasacrko
@Birdcell
@5Percenter

Send pics I rate honestly and dont post, Many Users can tell

 

[Youㅤ]

I will in my next thread. It will qualify for BOTB akhi.

I have an inkling that chewing (hardness and/or quantity of diet) is more causative to facial form than breathing

 

[Youㅤ]

Another thing I’ll point out is that the study I read that you referenced compared mouth breathing to nasal breathing, but never did it compare mewing to not mewing (nasal breathing doesn’t guarantee proper tongue posture)

 

[neverchadlite]

but never did it compare mewing to not mewing

Caged at this. JFL at you still believing that copium.

 

[Deleted member 41749]

Pm face

 

[Youㅤ]

Caged at this. JFL at you still believing that copium.

Okay , my point still stands. Make a thread “debunking” mewing. (You can’t , and “debunking” anything is retarded)

 

[anticel]

goes hand in hand with the post I made a few weeks ago.

 

[shr]

another narcy newfag

 

[Debetro]

Post me a single good looking person that mouthbreaths in motion. Also you are MTN max

 

[neverchadlite]

goes hand in hand with the post I made a few weeks ago.

Post it here. I haven't seen it.

 

[roping3264]

I'm still a 5'3 ft tall curry, a subhuman by this forum's standart.

dnrd

 

[neverchadlite]

another narcy newfag

I did more with this thread than you did in 12 months. Lions don't concern themselves with the opinions of sheep.

Also you are MTN max

Ask pneumo, sucker.

 

[overtier1011]

In one of the studies, the subjects were already suffering by overbite which can be either caused by genetics or incorrect tongue posture and only the widths were measured. The other study was comparision of different face shapes but study mentions skull shapes instead. In below image you can see three different skull shapes and there was no difference in skull shapes of nose and mouth breathers

Now here is a study that depicts that there is correlation between breathing habits and at what angles are bones placed on the face.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7185155/#:~:text=Within%20the%20limitations%20of%20the,height%20and%20decrease%20in%20posterior

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9498581/

Influence of Mouth Breathing on the Dentofacial Growth of Children: A Cephalometric Study

The involvement of mouth breathing, facial, and structural growth alterations, especially during childhood has been discussed in medical and dental literature. The relevance of airway obstruction and its assumed effect on facial growth continues to be ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

My opinion on this topic:- Mouth breathing does affect how bones sit over one another resulting in bad facial depth and forward growth but it is not effective enough to disrupt the skull shape that an individual is pre deposited to. Mouth breathing might cause problems but nasal breathing won't. Play it safe by employing nasal breathing.

 

[shr]

I did more with this thread than you did in 12 months. Lions don't concern themselves with the opinions of sheep.

I have 10 times your knowledge I just don't share it for my competition

 

[neverchadlite]

I have 10 times your knowledge I just don't share it for my competition

Mirin mischievousness

 

[DR. NICKGA]

You are wrong, no discussion needed

 

[DR. NICKGA]

I did more with this thread than you did in 12 months. Lions don't concern themselves with the opinions of sheep.

Ask pneumo, sucker.

Im smarter then you whole family , you are not on me level if i say you are wrong then you are simple wrong

 

[futureashtray]

Another graycel banger.
As I woke up this morning, I took a good look in the mirror as I usually do.

Nothing changed, I was immediately depressed by my flat zygos, steep gonial angle and weak chin.
I'm still a 6ft tall pretty boy, a chadlite by this forum's standard. @pneumocystosis will vouch for me (check your PM's you british bastard).

Despite this, I've been haunted by the idea that seasonal/nocturnal mouthbreathing may have stunted my potential. I mean, I could still land a modelling job right now, but fuck me I would be on the cover of Vogue magazine if I never mouth breathed...




Right?

My journey kicked off where every great discovery starts... Reddit
I was browsing r/Orthotropics and I was unceasingly cringing and caging at every thread I opened. These guys were simply retarded. Were these the folk I believed a few years ago? How could a high-IQ specimen like myself follow these neanderthals?

View attachment 2608702


"Muh just mew bro", "muh muh I'm ugly and recessed because of environment not genetics!!!". JFL

It was pissing me off i just had to do some actual research.



( Chalamet is playing a recessed kid and Steve Carell a high-iq looksmaxxer )


Anyway, here's what I discovered: it's just nonsense. The data is exclusively retrospective, and the conclusions that are drawn from it are inappropriate. It's a classic situation of correlation not being causation. the data does not demonstrate if facial structure leads to mouth breathing, or mouth breathing leads to different facial structures.

Here are some studies that show that mouthbreathing recessing you is cope. Genes with a half decent environment will be fully carried out. It will only screw you up if you're a mouth-breathing-only 24/7, 365d/y caveman JFL.

Spoiler: Non-Jewish studies

Transverse craniofacial dimensions in Angle Class II, Division 1 malocclusion according to breathing mode - PubMed

The aim of this longitudinal study was to assess the relation between the transverse craniofacial dimensions of subjects with Class II, Division 1 malocclusion and the breathing mode presented by them. Forty Angle Class II, Division 1 malocclusion subjects of both genders participated in the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

A study on the relationship between mouth breathing and facial morphological pattern - PubMed

it was not possible to prove the existence of an association between oral breathing and facial type.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

For you short-attention-spancels:

1.
View attachment 2608754
View attachment 2608757

2.
View attachment 2608765

Another kike psyop exposed and washed.

Spoiler: Tags: High-IQ only

@ReadBooksEveryday
@pneumocystosis
@enchanted_elixir
@garoupilled_
@Iasacrko
@Birdcell
@5Percenter

fucking retard when you mouth breathing you use the wrong muscles and basically tell your hyoid, jaw, etc

that they don’t need to do its job so you’re fucking your airways

The reason someone looks attractive is because

Beauty=health

Also block your nose with your fingers and eat something

you’ll see that it’s harder to taste the food and enjoy it

recession is caused by cucked airways

mewing=proper tongue posture is ideal so you can breath through your nose while your tongue is in the right place which trains your hyoid muscles to also stay on the right place

which will fix recession and etc

But it’s a long process it’ll take 3-5 years of consistent work for you to ascend

mouth breathing is horrible

you literally can’t have a good hyoid if you mouth breath

you don’t know anything about craniofacial anatomy/ aesthetics/ etc

plz do your research

mouth breathing is a horrible habit and should be fixed asap

 

[neverchadlite]

fucking retard when you mouth breathing you use the wrong muscles and basically tell your hyoid, jaw, etc

that they don’t need to do its job so you’re fucking your airways

The reason someone looks attractive is because

Beauty=health

Also block your nose with your fingers and eat something

you’ll see that it’s harder to taste the food and enjoy it

recession is caused by cucked airways

mewing=proper tongue posture is ideal so you can breath through your nose while your tongue is in the right place which trains your hyoid muscles to also stay on the right place

which will fix recession and etc

But it’s a long process it’ll take 3-5 years of consistent work for you to ascend

mouth breathing is horrible

you literally can’t have a good hyoid if you mouth breath

you don’t know anything about craniofacial anatomy/ aesthetics/ etc

plz do your research

mouth breathing is a horrible habit and should be fixed asap

Your research is indians on youtube. It's all about prenatal T and genetics.
I agree with @overtier1011 that it should be avoided to be safe and ofcourse it'll mess up your teeth but stop pinning your recession or ugliness on it.

 

[futureashtray]

Your research is indians on youtube. It's all about prenatal T and genetics.

holy fuck you’re more retarded than I thought

it’s literally human biomechanics bro

holyshit this is biggest greycel moment ive ever come across

 

[T_T]

I have given up for the last 5 years because I thought I was deformed from mouthbreathing. I have not been able to place how Im recessed. Have I been imagining my recession these past 5 years?

It will only screw you up if you're a mouth-breathing-only 24/7, 365d/y caveman JFL.

No shit youre if youre mouthbreathing youre mouthbreathing 24/7, I didnt know nosebreathing was a thing till I was 16.

 

[futureashtray]

Im smarter then you whole family , you are not on me level if i say you are wrong then you are simple wrong

exactly that fucking retard is using @pneumocystosis like a trustable source

pneumo only knows shitty water advice for achieve a decorated face that gives you “hallow cheeks”

which is extreme cope since hallow cheeks are from an unreccessed face and fat deposits

the biggest thing he did for us is tell us that furosimide can help debloat

Everything else is water

 

[DR. NICKGA]

exactly that fucking retard is using @pneumocystosis like a trustable source

pneumo only knows shitty water advice for achieve a decorated face that gives you “hallow cheeks”

which is extreme cope since hallow cheeks are from an unreccessed face and fat deposits

the biggest thing he did for us is tell us that furosimide can help debloat

Everything else is water

greycels are very smaart or very dumb, he is the 2nd

Your research is indians on youtube. It's all about prenatal T and genetics.

"Muhh prenetal T!!" Simple wrong

 

[anticel]

Post it here. I haven't seen it.

Malformed Craniofacial Complex - the ONLY thing that determines your looks

INTRODUCTION: To understand facial attractiveness all you need to understand is optimal facial growth (no it is not forward growth) & the one way it can fuck up. Knowing any ratios or measurements is cool but actually completely useless because it tells us nothing about harmony - all we need is...

looksmax.org

 

[Son of gigachad]

as kinda mentioned above by @You , the whole point of mewing/proper tongue posture is that while facial sutures havent fused yet, the tongue can exert consistent meaningful force over time on the upper palate with regular swallowing, in the same way that a palate expander would only more powerfully, even the tongue being held in a suction does nothing. chewing thoroughly or growing up eating soft foods is enough to completely alter dental and therefore facial structure over a single generation, as evident by the pictures of indigenous people moving to the west and eating soft foods in the relevant studies which i cant be bothered to attach right now, should be easy to find. the total sample group of the first study is laughable ( yet it still found a 7.5% difference as also mentioned by @You but not by the author though i guess it isnt that significant, and the second one still says jack shit for the reason explained - that you can nose breathe, and still have your tongue resting on the lower palate and improperly swallowing. i wont even mention how mewing changed my face completely at 22 and then i lost it again, since anecdotes dont matter and i aint gonna post my face here. and yes, genetics and hormones have the first and final role in all this and posture alone wont automatically make you a chad, and another reply above by @overtier1011 explains perfectly what an actually good study found about the angle of bones, despite the obvious prementioned limitations there as well, cause mouth breathing is just that cucked. all this is of course just about aesthetics, and not the endless literature showing how nose breathing is essential to good health due to pathogen filtering/nitric oxide production etc, or how proper tongue posture instantly activates the vagus nerve which controls the parasympathetic system, and the countless anecdotes of people lowering their anxiety or curing sleep apnea when discovering mewing even if their sutures are fused, all this also beyond the importance of posture for the function of the fascia which interlinks all our systens and organs. stephen hawking's once chaddish face melting away points to the obvious importance of muscles in holding bones in place, as most aging often does, hence why you should chew your ass off or at least swallow correctly with only the back of the tongue pushing up ( which many fail to do or dont have the space to do so , there is only one to correctly mew and a hundred to do it wrong even if u tried for years )

TLDR : if this is considered a high iq thread, then im adolf hitler's bastard son. but seeing how most people here dickride pathological mewing denial, might even end up in BOTB

 

[Son of gigachad]

also it wouldnt show me all the tags and it still doesnt so i tagged a different "you" user accidentally it would seem

 

[Son of gigachad]

all this of course not mentioned the massive financial interest of orthodontics ( a known cause of recession with massive relapse rates, of course ) into this topic not getting any real traction in the literature

 

[Mainstream]

I mouthbreathed a lot as kid and have a 1:1 midface, around 115 degree gonial angle and high cheekbones - just like my brother who never mouthbreathed.

Think it's mostly genetics. BUT he has a broader face than I do.

 

[mirrormogger]

pm face

 

[Mainstream]

Also, my nosebreather brother has negative canthal tilt, while mine is neutral

Remember to mouthbreathe, kids!