MSE is cope

[Deleted member 10172]

If u expand ur maxilla u have to expand ur lower jaw too or it’s over

this jaw hacks guy expect u to get SFOT all the way in Arkansas lol



MSE is cope and debunked by a professional
Jaw surgery will improve ur breathing and open ur airways

if I see u promoting MSE u are done now u heard

 

[Deleted member 11406]

Good thing having good maxilla

 

[Deleted member 12218]

That’s not how it works and you didn’t even listen to the whole thing. It’s not just “my lower jaw is too small mse is cope hur dur”

Dental tipping is a thing and it’s the reason some people can get it if they don’t have a posterior cross bite because theirs back molars are lingually inclined.

 

[Deleted member 12218]

Also, she’s a fucking mse provider, in fact she’s my current mse provider. Mse is not cope.

 

[Deleted member 10172]

That’s not how it works and you didn’t even listen to the whole thing. It’s not just “my lower jaw is too small mse is cope hur dur”

Dental tipping is a thing and it’s the reason some people can get it if they don’t have a posterior cross bite because theirs back molars are lingually inclined.

MSE does not advance shit there is no proof of aesthetic improvement and jaw surgery is better

 

[Deleted member 10172]

Also, she’s a fucking mse provider, in fact she’s my current mse provider. Mse is not cope.

U clearly did not listen to what she said.
She is a MSE provider, meaning she isn’t biased. She literally said that on people who cannot keep their mouth closed and have trouble breathing when they got the jaw surgery they literally felt the effects dna could breathe again. Jaw surgery is the only thing that works but keep coping with MSE

 

[Deleted member 12218]

MSE does not advance shit there is no proof of aesthetic improvement and jaw surgery is better

I asked her in person and she said it gives 1mm of forward expansion alone while the face mask gives 3mm. You are seriously retarded if you think the mse has 0 effect facially. It is splitting the skull in half how could that not affect you visually?

 

[Deleted member 10172]

MSE does not advance shit there is no proof of aesthetic improvement and jaw surgery is better

Then go get MSE and go to Arkansas and get SFOT and see how much time u waste

 

[Deleted member 10172]

I asked her in person and she said it gives 1mm of forward expansion alone while the face mask gives 3mm. You are seriously retarded if you think the mse has 0 effect facially. It is splitting the skull in half how could that not affect you visually?

3mm is nothing. Jaw surgery can do way much more than that. And distraction osteogenesis can provide up to 2cm of advancement. Next.

have u even seen jaw hacks before and after MSE? He literally looks the exact same.

 

[Deleted member 12218]

U clearly did not listen to what she said.
She is a MSE provider, meaning she isn’t biased. She literally said that on people who cannot keep their mouth closed and have trouble breathing when they got the jaw surgery they literally felt the effects dna could breathe again. Jaw surgery is the only thing that works but keep coping with MSE

Yes she provides jaw surgery but she also provides mse how is that hard for you to understand? Mse is not cope for tongue space and breathing and that’s a fact.

 

[Deleted member 12218]

Then go get MSE and go to Arkansas and get SFOT and see how much time u waste

I don’t need sfot because my teeth are tipped inwards. It’s not just about the maxilla and mandible.

 

[Deleted member 10172]

Yes she provides jaw surgery but she also provides mse how is that hard for you to understand? Mse is not cope for tongue space and breathing and that’s a fact.

Jaw surgery does it better. It’s that simple. MSE is not gonna provide the results that regular jaw surgery does.

 

[Deleted member 12218]

3mm is nothing. Jaw surgery can do way much more than that. And distraction osteogenesis can provide up to 2cm of advancement. Next.

have u even seen jaw hacks before and after MSE? He literally looks the exact same.

She only gives jaw surgery for people with lip incompetence and major sleep problems I asked her in person and even me she wouldn’t do it because my lip seal wasn’t bad enough

 

[Deleted member 10172]

She only gives jaw surgery for people with lip incompetence and major sleep problems I asked her in person and even me she wouldn’t do it because my lip seal wasn’t bad enough

Then we find other surgeons

 

[Deleted member 12218]

Jaw surgery does it better. It’s that simple. MSE is not gonna provide the results that regular jaw surgery does.

Yes but for your average person you can’t get surgery, I asked her and she said no. It’s only for really recessed folks. You guys and your basement jaw surgery fantasies are getting out of hand

 

[Deleted member 10913]

3mm is nothing. Jaw surgery can do way much more than that. And distraction osteogenesis can provide up to 2cm of advancement. Next.

have u even seen jaw hacks before and after MSE? He literally looks the exact same.

He is right Tho..

 

[Deleted member 12218]

Then we find other surgeons

She told me it will ruin the muscular balance within the face when I suggested face mask with distraction osteogenesis on the bottom jaw. I’d rather trust her duel trained years of education than some basement dwellers

 

[Deleted member 12218]

He is right Tho..

He is right but jaw surgery is not for the average person. Dr Bockow literally debunked this to me in person.

 

[Deleted member 10172]

She told me it will ruin the muscular balance within the face when I suggested face mask with distraction osteogenesis on the bottom jaw. I’d rather trust her duel trained years of education than some basement dwellers

Use different option of distraction osteogenesis

I’m gonna show u this video of this Indian. Girl who was able to get a new jaw due to mandibular distraction Osteogenesis

 

[Deleted member 10913]

He is right but jaw surgery is not for the average person. Dr Bockow literally debunked this to me in person.

I was talking about that your point was right.

 

[Deleted member 12218]

Use different option of distraction osteogenesis

Like what? She says she struggles to grow the mandible even with her young patients.

 

[Deleted member 10172]

He is right but jaw surgery is not for the average person. Dr Bockow literally debunked this to me in person.

Like what? She says she struggles to grow the mandible even with her young patients.

Maybe cause she is retarded remember females are retarded right? U do realize U should never get surgery from a female surgeon.

Look at her jaw and tell me that isn’t possible

 

[Deleted member 12218]

Maybe cause she is retarded remember females are retarded right? U do realize U should never get surgery from a female surgeon.

Look at her jaw and tell me that isn’t possible

But did you see her jaw in the before? Jaw surgery is for people who need it for health and breathing reasons. You sound so misogynistic, remember you want this to look better for females. Dr Bockow is one of only a few periodontist AND orthodontist who gives lectures around the world on these kinda subjects. What do you do? Blab on about muh jaw surgery’s muh forward growth in your basement

 

[Deleted member 10172]

But did you see her jaw in the before? Jaw surgery is for people who need it for health and breathing reasons. You sound so misogynistic, remember you want this to look better for females. Dr Bockow is one of only a few periodontist AND orthodontist who gives lectures around the world on these kinda subjects. What do you do? Blab on about muh jaw surgery’s muh forward growth in your basement

I do need it for health and breathing reasons too I’m a subhuman

 

[Deleted member 10913]

3mm is nothing. Jaw surgery can do way much more than that. And distraction osteogenesis can provide up to 2cm of advancement. Next.

have u even seen jaw hacks before and after MSE? He literally looks the exact same.

 

[Deleted member 10913]

There is cleary diffrence

 

[Deleted member 10172]

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Cherry picking and he still looks the same

 

[Deleted member 12218]

Cherry picking and he still looks the same

“Mse is cope”

 

[Deleted member 10172]

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“Mse is cope”

Ur showing the skull but the appearance is what matters
Look at this video





Looks exactly the same

Give up now

and he was was already good looking before faggot

 

[Deleted member 10172]

Answer me now @22Bones

 

[spark]

If u expand ur maxilla u have to expand ur lower jaw too or it’s over

this jaw hacks guy expect u to get SFOT all the way in Arkansas lol



MSE is cope and debunked by a professional
Jaw surgery will improve ur breathing and open ur airways

if I see u promoting MSE u are done now u heard

MSE, then protract it with bollards + fm.

then IMDO

ezpz

 

[Deleted member 10172]

MSE, then protract it with bollards + fm.

then IMDO

ezpz

lol if u do IMDO, then there is no point of MSE.

if IMDO was readily available then that would ascend a lot of people but I talked to a looking user he said it’s a pipe dream

plus isn’t IMDO paired with a Lefort I, a Lefort one would advance the maxilla way better than MSE.

 

[pizza]

mewing is better than all this bullshit

 

[Deleted member 10172]

mewing is better than all this bullshit

Mewing is actually cope. No one has ever improved from mewing ever.

 

[Uglyandfat]

in fact she’s my current mse provider

the tables turned rq

 

[Deleted member 12218]

Mewing is actually cope. No one has ever improved from mewing ever.

10 years of mewing = couple months of mse

 

[Uglyandfat]

Mse wont provide forward growth so if thats what your lacking you need jaw surgery and MSE wont provide much lateral growth UNLESS your upper palate is alot narrower to your lower jaw

 

[Deleted member 10172]

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“Mse is cope”

10 years of mewing = couple months of mse
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Mewing is cope. Five Four has already debated shit sky already and the faggot always had a good jaw.

 

[Deleted member 10172]

Mse wont provide forward growth so if thats what your lacking you need jaw surgery and MSE wont provide much lateral growth UNLESS your upper palate is alot narrower to your lower jaw

So basically, MSE is cope. The whole point is forward growth that is what I’m looking for and many users are looking for.

 

[Deleted member 12218]

Ur showing the skull but the appearance is what matters
Look at this video





Looks exactly the same

Give up now

and he was was already good looking before faggot

I’m making an entire imgur of all the mse cases just for you, you’re welcome



Here’s face mask which is apparently also a “cope”

 

[Deleted member 12218]

So basically, MSE is cope. The whole point is forward growth that is what I’m looking for and many users are looking for.

I already said it gives 1mm of forward growth and look at the Facemask case above , which gives several mm of forward growth

 

[pizza]

10 years of mewing = couple months of mse
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astro ascencion is much better

 

[Deleted member 12218]

Mewing is cope. Five Four has already debated shit sky already and the faggot always had a good jaw.

Not entirely true

 

[Deleted member 10172]

I’m making an entire imgur of all the mse cases just for you, you’re welcome



Here’s face mask which is apparently also a “cope”
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Only the grandma and jaw hacks improved from one picture

on 20/24 he looks exact same in both pictures and they are in good lighting

and did u not mention jaw hacks already has a good jaw? Do u not know what I’m looking for? I’m looking to get a good jaw and a good maxilla and this MSE shit would not suffice. Stop the coping and let me know when u get MSE so I can laugh at u

 

[patricknotstar]

If u expand ur maxilla u have to expand ur lower jaw too or it’s over

this jaw hacks guy expect u to get SFOT all the way in Arkansas lol



MSE is cope and debunked by a professional

if I see u promoting MSE u are done now u heard

this whole site is cope lol

If u expand ur maxilla u have to expand ur lower jaw too or it’s over

this jaw hacks guy expect u to get SFOT all the way in Arkansas lol



MSE is cope and debunked by a professional
Jaw surgery will improve ur breathing and open ur airways

if I see u promoting MSE u are done now u heard

If u expand ur maxilla u have to expand ur lower jaw too or it’s over

this jaw hacks guy expect u to get SFOT all the way in Arkansas lol



MSE is cope and debunked by a professional
Jaw surgery will improve ur breathing and open ur airways

if I see u promoting MSE u are done now u heard

great thread OP

 

[Deleted member 12218]

Only the grandma and jaw hacks improved from one picture

on 20/24 he looks exact same in both pictures and they are in good lighting

and did u not mention jaw hacks already has a good jaw? Do u not know what I’m looking for? I’m looking to get a good jaw and a good maxilla and this MSE shit would not suffice. Stop the coping and let me know when u get MSE so I can laugh at u

Mse is for the maxilla, I’m sorry but there’s not a lot you can do for a subhuman jaw. This guy has a narrow jaw but still got Mse and is perfectly fine.

 

[Uglyandfat]

So basically, MSE is cope. The whole point is forward growth that is what I’m looking for and many users are looking for.

lateral growth is a huge part of looking good aswell. forward growth is not the only story

 

[Deleted member 10172]

Mse is for the maxilla, I’m sorry but there’s not a lot you can do for a subhuman jaw. This guy has a narrow jaw but still got Mse and is perfectly fine.

I have a video of a dude on YouTube who got a good jaw from jaw surgery. Stop coping with fucking MSE cause it has no results. The person who is ur MSE consultant even said jaw surgery isn’t bad and can provide amazing results and people who got jaw surgery from her team has NEVER regretted it. U keep going on and on about this MSE shit then go do it and let’s see ur before and after. Nothing is gonna change and if u already had a good jaw before chances are ur nasal breathing is already fine. Stop misleading people

 

[Deleted member 12218]

I have a video of a dude on YouTube who got a good jaw from jaw surgery. Stop coping with fucking MSE cause it has no results. The person who is ur MSE consultant even said jaw surgery isn’t bad and can provide amazing results and people who got jaw surgery from her team has NEVER regretted it. U keep going on and on about this MSE shit then go do it and let’s see ur before and after. Nothing is gonna change and if u already had a good jaw before chances are ur nasal breathing is already fine. Stop misleading people

Mse is for people with narrow palates and poor breathing. Jaw surgery is for subhumans such as yourself. If you truly need jaw surgery, it is over Johnny

 

[Deleted member 10172]

Mse is for people with narrow palates and poor breathing. Jaw surgery is for subhumans such as yourself. If you truly need jaw surgery, it is over Johnny

MSE is cope and u just now agreed with me. Thank u and have a good day.

actual results compared to ur subhuman shit MSE results