MSE

[hairyballscel]

if you think so, go find the ama on tgw from a member of won moons labs where he was asked about that study...

link?

 

[Deleted member 5385]

i dont think u understand



it will be painful bc the stress diagram shows a ton of force on to the sinus (and no u cant just od on morphine and go thru)

Why you just can't get morphine or any painkiller, also I don't think the pain would be so big.
Also do you think Lefort (which give less results and is way more dangerous) will be less painful

 

[curryslayerordeath]

link?

i cant find anymore, guys username was like 'uclanew' and it was from 2ish years ago


@Hunterslayer
succumbing the temporary pain isnt the issue, the pressure on areas of the skull would have permanent functional effects causing chronic pain. therefore the micro implants were deemed not feasible by the lab.

idk what lefort has to do with this lmfao, they are completely different. you cant compare danger or pain with something that doesnt exist. (also lefort or any other surgery is much more predictable)

 

[Deleted member 5385]

i cant find anymore, guys username was like 'uclanew' and it was from 2ish years ago



@Hunterslayer
succumbing the temporary pain isnt the issue, the pressure on areas of the skull would have permanent functional effects causing chronic pain. therefore the micro implants were deemed not feasible by the lab.

idk what lefort has to do with this lmfao, they are completely different. you cant compare danger or pain with something that doesnt exist. (also lefort or any other surgery is much more predictable)

Ok, so do you know any other way to ccw rotated WHOLE maxilla like here?

 

[Deleted member 3020]

Someone join the zoom webinar and record it for me pls

https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_LCmzRkbsRly8i8zaXixCIg

 

[The Bleach Pill]

Someone join the zoom webinar and record it for me pls

https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_LCmzRkbsRly8i8zaXixCIg

200 for a webinar invite lol

 

[Chadelite]

Someone join the zoom webinar and record it for me pls

https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_LCmzRkbsRly8i8zaXixCIg

$200 registration fee

 

[Deleted member 3020]

link?

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the-great-work.org

He introduces himself in that page, keep scrolling until you see a long ass essay by UCLAnewbie
Also I just wanna mention he is a stubborn faggot and too stuck up on textbook information

 

[spark]

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could be close to 4mm tbh, and this isn't a lefort

yeah but sergio himself said this is just a simulation and that he doesn't think an adult can achieve it (I hope he is wrong)

 

[Wolfie]

You can have hgh for 300 dollar a month (real hgh) in the website of the youtube channel live like a viking.

His channel: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC2-oNYox6Tl9z492RsTZrKA

Hi Website:

Live Like A Viking – You're Never Too Old to Live Like A Viking!

livelikeaviking.com

Mk677 is cope for huge changes.

Also never take hgh from china, their hgh has a different formula than the original one, so you can develop immune resistance to it, and to hgh by the same occasion.

But this guy product (live like a viking) is legit good.

I would take if i were getting a facemask+Mse.

How is your occlusion ?

I can't seem to find the hgh on his website man. Has he took it off?

 

[hairyballscel]

yeah but sergio himself said this is just a simulation and that he doesn't think an adult can achieve it (I hope he is wrong)

yh im aware its a simulation but its worth a try imo, the benefits could be life changing

 

[orthochadic]

Yeah it seems it has been removed my bad.
I have another website that live like a viking used to get hgh:https://purerawz.co/?s=hgh&post_type=product.

here is the link of his video:


Reminder, Hgh is a 191 Amino Acid
sequence. All the HGH followed by another number than 191 can potentially trigger an immune responce.

You can get 200 IU for 700 dollar without the reduction code.
200 IU is like 3 iu a day for 2 months

 

[orthochadic]

yh im aware its a simulation but its worth a try imo, the benefits could be life changing

Also as downsings are common, it should fairly be possible for upswings to occur.
+ we have some claims of upswings.

 

[hairyballscel]

Also as downsings are common, it should fairly be possible for upswings to occur.
+ we have some claims of upswings.

yes but we know entirely why downswing occurs, not too much about upswing doe

 

[hairyballscel]

Page 5 | Possibly new "holy grail" for moving the maxilla up...

Page 5 | I came across a comment by the user "varbrah" on this forum and he talks about the Maxillary Skeletal Expander (MSE) and how this combined wi...

the-great-work.org

He introduces himself in that page, keep scrolling until you see a long ass essay by UCLAnewbie
Also I just wanna mention he is a stubborn faggot and too stuck up on textbook information

loooool so im guessing you don't agree with him then

do you think a facepuller w/o MSE can cause CCW rotation? Im thinking of making one that comes in contact with the same areas as simulation F?

 

[orthochadic]

yes but we know entirely why downswing occurs, not too much about upswing doe

Yeah but todays specialist are either bluepilled or orthotropics using tooth born appliances.

 

[orthochadic]

loooool so im guessing you don't agree with him then

do you think a facepuller w/o MSE can cause CCW rotation? Im thinking of making one that comes in contact with the same areas as simulation F?

If it's not tooth borne it can only be beneficial. and should work theorically. But you need hgh.

 

[hairyballscel]

If it's not tooth borne it can only be beneficial. and should work theorically. But you need hgh.

hgh is good but its not a need doe, it just speeds up results

 

[The Bleach Pill]

hgh is good but its not a need doe, it just speeds up results

and speeds up the need for a rhino

 

[hairyballscel]

and speeds up the need for a rhino

how? are you referring to acromegaly?

 

[The Bleach Pill]

how? are you referring to acromegaly?

hgh grows nasal hump

 

[orthochadic]

it speed the results up by far

 

[orthochadic]

hgh grows nasal hump

As he will expand his maxilla forward with facemask, he will lower te ratio between his forehead nose/ maxilla size.
Forward expansion is legit.

 

[The Bleach Pill]

As he will expand his maxilla forward with facemask, he will lower te ratio between his forehead nose/ maxilla size.
Forward expansion is legit.

hgh wont help much so not worth the price lol. Probably cost half as much as the mse unless u resort to mk677

 

[hairyballscel]

hgh grows nasal hump

are you referring to acromegaly?

 

[The Bleach Pill]

are you referring to acromegaly?

yes

 

[hairyballscel]

yes

to get acromegaly you have to use high amounts of HGH for years and years,

im gonna use it for no more than 1 year, nearly no chance of getting acro in that space of time

 

[The Bleach Pill]

to get acromegaly you have to use high amounts of HGH for years and years,

im gonna use it for no more than 1 year, nearly no chance of getting acro in that space of time

hgh or mk677. mk677 would be ideal but my nose is border line straight so i dont want to risk it for an extra 2mm

 

[hairyballscel]

hgh or mk677. mk677 would be ideal but my nose is border line straight so i dont want to risk it for an extra 2mm

just don't abuse it, you'll be fine i promise

 

[orthochadic]

hgh wont help much so not worth the price lol. Probably cost half as much as the mse unless u resort to mk677

hgh cost 700 dollar for 2 months for a 3 IU per day supply (without the reduction code i think of -15 per cent. not sure about the exact reduction)

 

[FACEandDnB]

Just got news from Won Moon that with the use of a facemask, growing patients saw over 8mm protraction in many cases, while adults got around 3mm protaction.

Also, it is more effective to facepull while expansion is happening.

Over 14 hrs is ideal but even more is better.

You should be using at least 500 grams of force on each side and more for adults.

Also, sutures don't fuse after MSE is complete, only interlock so they can be disarticulated again.

 

[The Bleach Pill]

Just got news from Won Moon that with the use of a facemask, growing patients saw over 8mm protraction in many cases, while adults got around 3mm protaction.

Also, it is more effective to facepull while expansion is happening.

Over 14 hrs is ideal but even more is better.

You should be using at least 500 grams of force on each side and more for adults.

Also, sutures don't fuse after MSE is complete, only interlock so they can be disarticulated again.

over 8mm??? no way. I will be 18 by the time I get it tho. Hopefully with the supplementation of k2, mk677 ect and increased force and time period can help me replicate that.

 

[AscendingHero]

lol no

its from a "theorized" n2 implant with a upward directed spring, which was determined to be wayyyyy too painful (since pressure is directed onto the sinus area) to ever be used. so def does not apply.

@ropemax ??????

 

[ropemax]

@ropemax ??????

Bruh, stop tagging me in every thread where some bitter banned 5'2 curry talks out of his ass. UCLANewbie (user on GreatWork forum who was working in Moon's department at UCLA) said in 2019 that no one had conducted a clinical trial but that the model could possibly be replicated. I really don't care about what anyone has to say and what they've heard from whoever. I only care about what Moon himself has to say.

 

[AscendingHero]

Bruh, stop tagging me in every thread where some bitter banned 5'2 curry talks out of his ass. UCLANewbie (user on GreatWork forum who was working in Moon's department at UCLA) said in 2019 that no one had conducted a clinical trial but that the model could possibly be replicated. I really don't care about what anyone has to say and what they've heard from whoever. I only care about what Moon himself has to say.

This. I am going to spam Won Moon in any way possible and apologize for spam tagging you mr. maxfac lol