My 8-months ascension (before & after pic)

[MaartenVaanThomm]

In a combat with myself for the last 8 months.
8 months spent in a solitude forging the mental strength.
Slowly coming out from the darkness.
Left pic is June 2022 and right pic is February 2023. I am 28 yo.

The path:

- Lost 20kgs in weight (from 110kg to 90kg), still aiming for 80-82kg and low body fat % at 6'2 height
- Took isotretinoin treatment - axotret (about to finish it in two weeks, went great!)
- I dyed eyebrows (already had it quite thick, but very bright and almost not visible)
- Took care of my lips (initially it was forced by tretinoin, but I followed it religiously and now they has nicer colour and look)
- Took care of my hair, finally found a god-tier hair artist in my city and a haircut that suits me (this is not even a perm)
- Slight makeup (just concealer) to blend the skintone until I will be allowed to go for the acid/laser sessions (downtime period after tretinoin)
- It should be the first point - mental transformation (no therapy involved however, just me and my thoughts), appearance just followed the mind

Further plans going for hybrid pretty boyish & masculine build:

- Further body fat reduction, luckly the face was the first place from which I started losing fat, I am on 20% bf now and already looking quite sharp, so at 10-12% I could potentially have hollow cheeks, better looking zygos etc.
- Further growing out my hair.
- Acne scars subcision, pro acid peels, pro laser resurfacing.
- Learn how to contour and master "stealth makeup" techniques, there is no point not using this nowadays, really.
- Open for a very slight lips augumentation with fillers.
- Orthodontic treatment, teeth whitening etc.
- Bimax after orthodontics, I've signed off the treatment plan a week ago
- Build a new clothing style, something into koreancorp or minimalist style - outfits that would optically enhance my height, but at the same time follow gen z fashion trends, to this date I was wearing mainly suits, jackets, chinos, business shirts etc. as I work in corporate finance, but it makes me look too serious
- Lash lift and lash dye to deepen the eye area
- Reactivate my piercing in left ear and wear something + jewellery
- Launching tiktok/instagram profile (or both) to make some fame

Any further tips/advice? Would you add anything to the pack?

Feel free to rate my before and after!

 

[mug]

good shit

 

[Michael Myers]

Mirin ascension. You look like you got the voice of an angel.

 

[Michael Myers]

Btw how old are you?

 

[Jerryterry129]

Is that just the make up and barely the tret doing that?

Either way crazy good progress and shows what make up can do

Also how did u get rid of those nasolfolds? Does the make up cover them?

 

[WanderingBurro]

You look like a face apped Tom Scott and I mean that in a good way. Great work

 

[sub5inchcel]

nice job

 

[Deleted member 15854]

In a combat with myself for the last 8 months.
8 months spent in a solitude forging the mental strength.
Slowly coming out from the darkness.
Left pic is June 2022 and right pic is February 2023. I am 28 yo.

The path:

- Lost 20kgs in weight (from 110kg to 90kg), still aiming for 80-82kg and low body fat % at 6'2 height
- Took isotretinoin treatment - axotret (about to finish it in two weeks, went great!)
- I dyed eyebrows (already had it quite thick, but very bright and almost not visible)
- Took care of my lips (initially it was forced by tretinoin, but I followed it religiously and now they has nicer colour and look)
- Took care of my hair, finally found a god-tier hair artist in my city and a haircut that suits me (this is not even a perm)
- Slight makeup (just concealer) to blend the skintone until I will be allowed to go for the acid/laser sessions (downtime period after tretinoin)
- It should be the first point - mental transformation (no therapy involved however, just me and my thoughts), appearance just followed the mind

Further plans going for hybrid pretty boyish & masculine build:

- Further body fat reduction, luckly the face was the first place from which I started losing fat, I am on 20% bf now and already looking quite sharp, so at 10-12% I could potentially have hollow cheeks, better looking zygos etc.
- Further growing out my hair.
- Acne scars subcision, pro acid peels, pro laser resurfacing.
- Learn how to contour and master "stealth makeup" techniques, there is no point not using this nowadays, really.
- Open for a very slight lips augumentation with fillers.
- Orthodontic treatment, teeth whitening etc.
- Bimax after orthodontics, I've signed off the treatment plan a week ago
- Build a new clothing style, something into koreancorp or minimalist style - outfits that would optically enhance my height, but at the same time follow gen z fashion trends, to this date I was wearing mainly suits, jackets, chinos, business shirts etc. as I work in corporate finance, but it makes me look too serious
- Lash lift and lash dye to deepen the eye area
- Reactivate my piercing in left ear and wear something + jewellery
- Launching tiktok/instagram profile (or both) to make some fame

Any further tips/advice? Would you add anything to the pack?

Feel free to rate my before and after!

good on you bro mirin

 

[beachdude123]

In a combat with myself for the last 8 months.
8 months spent in a solitude forging the mental strength.
Slowly coming out from the darkness.
Left pic is June 2022 and right pic is February 2023. I am 28 yo.

The path:

- Lost 20kgs in weight (from 110kg to 90kg), still aiming for 80-82kg and low body fat % at 6'2 height
- Took isotretinoin treatment - axotret (about to finish it in two weeks, went great!)
- I dyed eyebrows (already had it quite thick, but very bright and almost not visible)
- Took care of my lips (initially it was forced by tretinoin, but I followed it religiously and now they has nicer colour and look)
- Took care of my hair, finally found a god-tier hair artist in my city and a haircut that suits me (this is not even a perm)
- Slight makeup (just concealer) to blend the skintone until I will be allowed to go for the acid/laser sessions (downtime period after tretinoin)
- It should be the first point - mental transformation (no therapy involved however, just me and my thoughts), appearance just followed the mind

Further plans going for hybrid pretty boyish & masculine build:

- Further body fat reduction, luckly the face was the first place from which I started losing fat, I am on 20% bf now and already looking quite sharp, so at 10-12% I could potentially have hollow cheeks, better looking zygos etc.
- Further growing out my hair.
- Acne scars subcision, pro acid peels, pro laser resurfacing.
- Learn how to contour and master "stealth makeup" techniques, there is no point not using this nowadays, really.
- Open for a very slight lips augumentation with fillers.
- Orthodontic treatment, teeth whitening etc.
- Bimax after orthodontics, I've signed off the treatment plan a week ago
- Build a new clothing style, something into koreancorp or minimalist style - outfits that would optically enhance my height, but at the same time follow gen z fashion trends, to this date I was wearing mainly suits, jackets, chinos, business shirts etc. as I work in corporate finance, but it makes me look too serious
- Lash lift and lash dye to deepen the eye area
- Reactivate my piercing in left ear and wear something + jewellery
- Launching tiktok/instagram profile (or both) to make some fame

Any further tips/advice? Would you add anything to the pack?

Feel free to rate my before and after!

"I work in corporate finance" - guy wearing construction worker uniform

 

[Deleted member 22924]

nice work g

 

[cancercell]

wow
what hair products do you use

 

[MaartenVaanThomm]

Is that just the make up and barely the tret doing that?

Either way crazy good progress and shows what make up can do

Also how did u get rid of those nasolfolds? Does the make up cover them?

Tret done a miracles for me. You can't just throw a ton of clay on your face while acne and think it looks good and natural. I had a ton of breakouts, once healed they reappear in no time. Super oily skin is a nightmare for any makeup base, your pores are clogging in no time and sebum is still going through the surface. Even if you use something matte it looks fake and gay. I bet you met at least once a girl with acne under makeup, it looks horrendous and disgusting in some way.

After tret I have no breakouts. Not a single one in the last 3 months. Oilyness gone, I have also better pigmentation (no red spots), no rosacea (my big problem before) and even the texture have improved. Must go for subcision, laser, TCA and microneedling with PRP anyway, but it is already a difference.

Tret is life. As long as your health allows the treatment - go for it.

Speaking of nasal folds - weight loss and tret (improved elasticity by collagen stimulation). I guess makeup helped a bit too.
However remember that makeup is not working on a mesh level (you can't really change any shape on your face by this).
It's working on countur/highlight/pigmentation level - so you can just blend/unify the tone of your skin and if you know how then you can improve the optical angularity of your face by contouring and highlighting specific areas - but it's just an illusion to trick peoples eyes. However undetectable if done superior.

So yeah, you can't remove nasal folds with just a makeup.

Btw how old are you?

28 bro

"I work in corporate finance" - guy wearing construction worker uniform

I work as a management consultant/business controller and to accurately do my math for the business in excel I sometimes need to go to the warehouse/plant/factory to talk to people and see the real operations on my own eyes for a better understanding what is behind my numbers.
Left pic was done on one of my business trips. I had to wear visitor's flash jacket and helmet for the safety purposes. Also wore a hoodie to get a long with warehouse people, beacuse they will be uncomfortable when an all suit up white collar guy will start asking questions.

wow
what hair products do you use

For this hairstyle as follows:

1. Pure Abundance Hair Potion | Aveda
2. Moroccanoil® Texture Clay
3. Philip B Maui Wowie Volumizing & Thickening Beach Mist
4. Syoss Volume Lift Hairspray, but gonna try also the Keratine version

It lasts 3 days for me.

 

[callisto]

lip lift and chin implant instantly

 

[MaartenVaanThomm]

lip lift and chin implant instantly

I am considering a slight filler augmentation (HA preferably), but firstly, I need to do outrageously good research of the clinics in my city to get the specialist that will not give me uncanny gay look and which is specialised with men. And the second - I need to do this after orthodontics installed, beacuse the braces will also push my lips out.

Speaking of the chin - not gonna do any implants, just bimax or trimax.

 

[malicieusss]

Mirin, good job.

 

[callisto]

I am considering a slight filler augmentation (HA preferably), but firstly, I need to do outrageously good research of the clinics in my city to get the specialist that will not give me uncanny gay look and which is specialised with men. And the second - I need to do this after orthodontics installed, beacuse the braces will also push my lips out.

Speaking of the chin - not gonna do any implants, just bimax or trimax.

your philtrum is shit. if you dont fix that then idk

 

[MaartenVaanThomm]

your philtrum is shit. if you dont fix that then idk

That's true, but I don't wanna go into route "alter everything", beacuse I defo will look uncanny and gay. Too much risk

 

[king_bandon]

In a combat with myself for the last 8 months.
8 months spent in a solitude forging the mental strength.
Slowly coming out from the darkness.
Left pic is June 2022 and right pic is February 2023. I am 28 yo.

The path:

- Lost 20kgs in weight (from 110kg to 90kg), still aiming for 80-82kg and low body fat % at 6'2 height
- Took isotretinoin treatment - axotret (about to finish it in two weeks, went great!)
- I dyed eyebrows (already had it quite thick, but very bright and almost not visible)
- Took care of my lips (initially it was forced by tretinoin, but I followed it religiously and now they has nicer colour and look)
- Took care of my hair, finally found a god-tier hair artist in my city and a haircut that suits me (this is not even a perm)
- Slight makeup (just concealer) to blend the skintone until I will be allowed to go for the acid/laser sessions (downtime period after tretinoin)
- It should be the first point - mental transformation (no therapy involved however, just me and my thoughts), appearance just followed the mind

Further plans going for hybrid pretty boyish & masculine build:

- Further body fat reduction, luckly the face was the first place from which I started losing fat, I am on 20% bf now and already looking quite sharp, so at 10-12% I could potentially have hollow cheeks, better looking zygos etc.
- Further growing out my hair.
- Acne scars subcision, pro acid peels, pro laser resurfacing.
- Learn how to contour and master "stealth makeup" techniques, there is no point not using this nowadays, really.
- Open for a very slight lips augumentation with fillers.
- Orthodontic treatment, teeth whitening etc.
- Bimax after orthodontics, I've signed off the treatment plan a week ago
- Build a new clothing style, something into koreancorp or minimalist style - outfits that would optically enhance my height, but at the same time follow gen z fashion trends, to this date I was wearing mainly suits, jackets, chinos, business shirts etc. as I work in corporate finance, but it makes me look too serious
- Lash lift and lash dye to deepen the eye area
- Reactivate my piercing in left ear and wear something + jewellery
- Launching tiktok/instagram profile (or both) to make some fame

Any further tips/advice? Would you add anything to the pack?

Feel free to rate my before and after!

Massive glowup, good job man

 

[Michael Myers]

28 bro

Mirin bhai, just one year older. Congrats! Are you basking in the attention you get (I assume it's skyrocketed since your humble beginnings) from women?

 

[alriodai]

holy shit nigga u were so ugly on the left jfl, proud of u

 

[MaartenVaanThomm]

Mirin bhai, just one year older. Congrats! Are you basking in the attention you get (I assume it's skyrocketed since your humble beginnings) from women?

I am not dating, but I have never received so many compliments like in the last month.
It's nothing big, usually something like "hey, I like your new hair" or "have you done something to your eyes, beacuse you give me 'that' look now" or something related to weight.
Girls that know me longer and knew my usual skin condition also compliment my skin and now it's them with the worst skin

 

[MaartenVaanThomm]

holy shit nigga u were so ugly on the left jfl, proud of u

haha, thanks!

 

[Constantin Denis]

from incel creature to maybe mid tier normie. good improvement aniway.
the death tier features that you have are: long philtrum, non existent lips, lip color looks like they blend into your skin tone, lips to nose width ratio is really bad. If you were to improve these it would make the biggest change.

 

[MaartenVaanThomm]

from incel creature to maybe mid tier normie. good improvement aniway.
the death tier features that you have are: long philtrum, non existent lips, lip color looks like they blend into your skin tone, lips to nose width ratio is really bad. If you were to improve these it would make the biggest change.

Thanks, can you rate me in this thread since people are not doing it here? https://looksmax.org/threads/transformed-need-your-rating.673049/#post-10671007

 

[Michael Myers]

I am not dating, but I have never received so many compliments like in the last month.
It's nothing big, usually something like "hey, I like your new hair" or "have you done something to your eyes, beacuse you give me 'that' look now" or something related to weight.
Girls that know me longer and knew my usual skin condition also compliment my skin and now it's them with the worst skin

Interesting! Maybe you just don't look at women outside in the streets. Either way you worked hard for it and it shows! Also, zijt gij een Nederlander?

 

[Unsh]

In a combat with myself for the last 8 months.
8 months spent in a solitude forging the mental strength.
Slowly coming out from the darkness.
Left pic is June 2022 and right pic is February 2023. I am 28 yo.

The path:

- Lost 20kgs in weight (from 110kg to 90kg), still aiming for 80-82kg and low body fat % at 6'2 height
- Took isotretinoin treatment - axotret (about to finish it in two weeks, went great!)
- I dyed eyebrows (already had it quite thick, but very bright and almost not visible)
- Took care of my lips (initially it was forced by tretinoin, but I followed it religiously and now they has nicer colour and look)
- Took care of my hair, finally found a god-tier hair artist in my city and a haircut that suits me (this is not even a perm)
- Slight makeup (just concealer) to blend the skintone until I will be allowed to go for the acid/laser sessions (downtime period after tretinoin)
- It should be the first point - mental transformation (no therapy involved however, just me and my thoughts), appearance just followed the mind

Further plans going for hybrid pretty boyish & masculine build:

- Further body fat reduction, luckly the face was the first place from which I started losing fat, I am on 20% bf now and already looking quite sharp, so at 10-12% I could potentially have hollow cheeks, better looking zygos etc.
- Further growing out my hair.
- Acne scars subcision, pro acid peels, pro laser resurfacing.
- Learn how to contour and master "stealth makeup" techniques, there is no point not using this nowadays, really.
- Open for a very slight lips augumentation with fillers.
- Orthodontic treatment, teeth whitening etc.
- Bimax after orthodontics, I've signed off the treatment plan a week ago
- Build a new clothing style, something into koreancorp or minimalist style - outfits that would optically enhance my height, but at the same time follow gen z fashion trends, to this date I was wearing mainly suits, jackets, chinos, business shirts etc. as I work in corporate finance, but it makes me look too serious
- Lash lift and lash dye to deepen the eye area
- Reactivate my piercing in left ear and wear something + jewellery
- Launching tiktok/instagram profile (or both) to make some fame

Any further tips/advice? Would you add anything to the pack?

Feel free to rate my before and after!

What do you plan to do in the future?
I feel like roid and a good neck workout will add a lot to smv

 

[Jerryterry129]

Tret done a miracles for me. You can't just throw a ton of clay on your face while acne and think it looks good and natural. I had a ton of breakouts, once healed they reappear in no time. Super oily skin is a nightmare for any makeup base, your pores are clogging in no time and sebum is still going through the surface. Even if you use something matte it looks fake and gay. I bet you met at least once a girl with acne under makeup, it looks horrendous and disgusting in some way.

After tret I have no breakouts. Not a single one in the last 3 months. Oilyness gone, I have also better pigmentation (no red spots), no rosacea (my big problem before) and even the texture have improved. Must go for subcision, laser, TCA and microneedling with PRP anyway, but it is already a difference.

Tret is life. As long as your health allows the treatment - go for it.

Speaking of nasal folds - weight loss and tret (improved elasticity by collagen stimulation). I guess makeup helped a bit too.
However remember that makeup is not working on a mesh level (you can't really change any shape on your face by this).
It's working on countur/highlight/pigmentation level - so you can just blend/unify the tone of your skin and if you know how then you can improve the optical angularity of your face by contouring and highlighting specific areas - but it's just an illusion to trick peoples eyes. However undetectable if done superior.

So yeah, you can't remove nasal folds with just a makeup.



28 bro



I work as a management consultant/business controller and to accurately do my math for the business in excel I sometimes need to go to the warehouse/plant/factory to talk to people and see the real operations on my own eyes for a better understanding what is behind my numbers.
Left pic was done on one of my business trips. I had to wear visitor's flash jacket and helmet for the safety purposes. Also wore a hoodie to get a long with warehouse people, beacuse they will be uncomfortable when an all suit up white collar guy will start asking questions.



For this hairstyle as follows:

1. Pure Abundance Hair Potion | Aveda
2. Moroccanoil® Texture Clay
3. Philip B Maui Wowie Volumizing & Thickening Beach Mist
4. Syoss Volume Lift Hairspray, but gonna try also the Keratine version

It lasts 3 days for me.

Did tret really remove your nasolfolds? I find that hard to believe. Everyone says tret makes nasolfolds worse

Edit: nvm if you actually look at ur before I think it doesn’t even look like you had nasolfolds. You had very very tiny ones. Ur major issue was the acne

 

[MaartenVaanThomm]

Interesting! Maybe you just don't look at women outside in the streets. Either way you worked hard for it and it shows! Also, zijt gij een Nederlander?

Haha, no, but close and have some friends in there

What do you plan to do in the future?
I feel like roid and a good neck workout will add a lot to smv

Definitely not gonna go for celeb gymshark route, I've trained calisthenics for 2 years in the past, already have 140% reference muscle mass. My goal in terms of physique is just being lean - 10-12% bf all the time. Now despite my progress I still sit on 20% bf

 

[Deleted member 17345]

wow what dose of isotretinonin?

 

[Deleted member 17345]

i iwsh i started accutane when i was 19

 

[VenatorLuparius]

Absolutely fantastic job opie.

Congratulations for taking action and turning your life around.

This cannot be stressed enough : leanmaxxing is the first looksmaxxing. Problem is that most people lack the willpower to sustain hunger and get in the gym. Opie was borderline obese pizzaface but still lost a lot of weight and took care of his skin.

 

[RopeMaxxed]

In a combat with myself for the last 8 months.
8 months spent in a solitude forging the mental strength.
Slowly coming out from the darkness.
Left pic is June 2022 and right pic is February 2023. I am 28 yo.

The path:

- Lost 20kgs in weight (from 110kg to 90kg), still aiming for 80-82kg and low body fat % at 6'2 height
- Took isotretinoin treatment - axotret (about to finish it in two weeks, went great!)
- I dyed eyebrows (already had it quite thick, but very bright and almost not visible)
- Took care of my lips (initially it was forced by tretinoin, but I followed it religiously and now they has nicer colour and look)
- Took care of my hair, finally found a god-tier hair artist in my city and a haircut that suits me (this is not even a perm)
- Slight makeup (just concealer) to blend the skintone until I will be allowed to go for the acid/laser sessions (downtime period after tretinoin)
- It should be the first point - mental transformation (no therapy involved however, just me and my thoughts), appearance just followed the mind

Further plans going for hybrid pretty boyish & masculine build:

- Further body fat reduction, luckly the face was the first place from which I started losing fat, I am on 20% bf now and already looking quite sharp, so at 10-12% I could potentially have hollow cheeks, better looking zygos etc.
- Further growing out my hair.
- Acne scars subcision, pro acid peels, pro laser resurfacing.
- Learn how to contour and master "stealth makeup" techniques, there is no point not using this nowadays, really.
- Open for a very slight lips augumentation with fillers.
- Orthodontic treatment, teeth whitening etc.
- Bimax after orthodontics, I've signed off the treatment plan a week ago
- Build a new clothing style, something into koreancorp or minimalist style - outfits that would optically enhance my height, but at the same time follow gen z fashion trends, to this date I was wearing mainly suits, jackets, chinos, business shirts etc. as I work in corporate finance, but it makes me look too serious
- Lash lift and lash dye to deepen the eye area
- Reactivate my piercing in left ear and wear something + jewellery
- Launching tiktok/instagram profile (or both) to make some fame

Any further tips/advice? Would you add anything to the pack?

Feel free to rate my before and after!

Nice work, buddy boyo.
Also before pic mogs me.

 

[TsarTsar444]

Can you give me a makeup/concealer advice? Thankfully my scars are mostly hyperpigmentation with some ice picking on the cheeks, it would be nice if there was some non comadermic concealer to use

 

[JawGuyFatFaceGuy]

In a combat with myself for the last 8 months.
8 months spent in a solitude forging the mental strength.
Slowly coming out from the darkness.
Left pic is June 2022 and right pic is February 2023. I am 28 yo.

The path:

- Lost 20kgs in weight (from 110kg to 90kg), still aiming for 80-82kg and low body fat % at 6'2 height
- Took isotretinoin treatment - axotret (about to finish it in two weeks, went great!)
- I dyed eyebrows (already had it quite thick, but very bright and almost not visible)
- Took care of my lips (initially it was forced by tretinoin, but I followed it religiously and now they has nicer colour and look)
- Took care of my hair, finally found a god-tier hair artist in my city and a haircut that suits me (this is not even a perm)
- Slight makeup (just concealer) to blend the skintone until I will be allowed to go for the acid/laser sessions (downtime period after tretinoin)
- It should be the first point - mental transformation (no therapy involved however, just me and my thoughts), appearance just followed the mind

Further plans going for hybrid pretty boyish & masculine build:

- Further body fat reduction, luckly the face was the first place from which I started losing fat, I am on 20% bf now and already looking quite sharp, so at 10-12% I could potentially have hollow cheeks, better looking zygos etc.
- Further growing out my hair.
- Acne scars subcision, pro acid peels, pro laser resurfacing.
- Learn how to contour and master "stealth makeup" techniques, there is no point not using this nowadays, really.
- Open for a very slight lips augumentation with fillers.
- Orthodontic treatment, teeth whitening etc.
- Bimax after orthodontics, I've signed off the treatment plan a week ago
- Build a new clothing style, something into koreancorp or minimalist style - outfits that would optically enhance my height, but at the same time follow gen z fashion trends, to this date I was wearing mainly suits, jackets, chinos, business shirts etc. as I work in corporate finance, but it makes me look too serious
- Lash lift and lash dye to deepen the eye area
- Reactivate my piercing in left ear and wear something + jewellery
- Launching tiktok/instagram profile (or both) to make some fame

Any further tips/advice? Would you add anything to the pack?

Feel free to rate my before and after!

Good job man! Would you say leanmaxxing was the biggest game changer facially?

 

[Unsh]

Can you give me a makeup/concealer advice? Thankfully my scars are mostly hyperpigmentation with some ice picking on the cheeks, it would be nice if there was some non comadermic concealer to use

Colorful sunscreen

 

[MaartenVaanThomm]

wow what dose of isotretinonin?

First month - 40mg/day (20mg x 2)
Second month - 50mg/day (40mg one day and 60mg the other day alternately)
Since third month - 60mg/day (20mg x 3)

i iwsh i started accutane when i was 19

Same, lost my youth beacuse of acne

Absolutely fantastic job opie.

Congratulations for taking action and turning your life around.

This cannot be stressed enough : leanmaxxing is the first looksmaxxing. Problem is that most people lack the willpower to sustain hunger and get in the gym. Opie was borderline obese pizzaface but still lost a lot of weight and took care of his skin.

Many thanks bro!

Nice work, buddy boyo.
Also before pic mogs me.

This is your motivation to start your transformation today! Heads up!

Can you give me a makeup/concealer advice? Thankfully my scars are mostly hyperpigmentation with some ice picking on the cheeks, it would be nice if there was some non comadermic concealer to use

You need to be absolutely clean shaven to start thinking about the makeup. Any beard/facial hair is instant exposer that you are using makeup in public.
However, as of now I wouldn't recommend to you using the makeup as you have active bumps/breakouts. What I would reccomend is simply starting some dermatologic therapy. It will do the most for you same as for me. There is really no way out of this besides the meds.

Good job man! Would you say leanmaxxing was the biggest game changer facially?

Thanks! I would say it goes like this:

30% - leanmaxxing
30% - skinmaxxing
20% - eyebrows
20% - hair


Really hard to point out the winner beacuse to achieve the effect, everything must go to another level. I would still look like shit being lean with acne and no brows. Or having good skin and brows but having shit hair and being fat. You need holistic commitment in every area, this is the only way.

 

[Vain786]

is topical tretinion as good as isotretinonin?

 

[MaartenVaanThomm]

is topical tretinion as good as isotretinonin?

No, for heavy acne you need oral intake. Topical is good for maintaining good skin condition through the years

 

[Shmuel]

In a combat with myself for the last 8 months.
8 months spent in a solitude forging the mental strength.
Slowly coming out from the darkness.
Left pic is June 2022 and right pic is February 2023. I am 28 yo.

The path:

- Lost 20kgs in weight (from 110kg to 90kg), still aiming for 80-82kg and low body fat % at 6'2 height
- Took isotretinoin treatment - axotret (about to finish it in two weeks, went great!)
- I dyed eyebrows (already had it quite thick, but very bright and almost not visible)
- Took care of my lips (initially it was forced by tretinoin, but I followed it religiously and now they has nicer colour and look)
- Took care of my hair, finally found a god-tier hair artist in my city and a haircut that suits me (this is not even a perm)
- Slight makeup (just concealer) to blend the skintone until I will be allowed to go for the acid/laser sessions (downtime period after tretinoin)
- It should be the first point - mental transformation (no therapy involved however, just me and my thoughts), appearance just followed the mind

Further plans going for hybrid pretty boyish & masculine build:

- Further body fat reduction, luckly the face was the first place from which I started losing fat, I am on 20% bf now and already looking quite sharp, so at 10-12% I could potentially have hollow cheeks, better looking zygos etc.
- Further growing out my hair.
- Acne scars subcision, pro acid peels, pro laser resurfacing.
- Learn how to contour and master "stealth makeup" techniques, there is no point not using this nowadays, really.
- Open for a very slight lips augumentation with fillers.
- Orthodontic treatment, teeth whitening etc.
- Bimax after orthodontics, I've signed off the treatment plan a week ago
- Build a new clothing style, something into koreancorp or minimalist style - outfits that would optically enhance my height, but at the same time follow gen z fashion trends, to this date I was wearing mainly suits, jackets, chinos, business shirts etc. as I work in corporate finance, but it makes me look too serious
- Lash lift and lash dye to deepen the eye area
- Reactivate my piercing in left ear and wear something + jewellery
- Launching tiktok/instagram profile (or both) to make some fame

Any further tips/advice? Would you add anything to the pack?

Feel free to rate my before and after!

Sham does your skin still have those craters and dissolved looking parts caused by the acne or did they go smooth

 

[Shmuel]

Can you give me a makeup/concealer advice? Thankfully my scars are mostly hyperpigmentation with some ice picking on the cheeks, it would be nice if there was some non comadermic concealer to use

elf conceeler

 

[Vain786]

No, for heavy acne you need oral intake. Topical is good for maintaining good skin condition through the years

should i try isotret with tret do u think thats fine?

ive tried so many regular cleanses they all make my skin worse so i just use water + tret nightly

 

[TsarTsar444]

First month - 40mg/day (20mg x 2)
Second month - 50mg/day (40mg one day and 60mg the other day alternately)
Since third month - 60mg/day (20mg x 3)



Same, lost my youth beacuse of acne


Many thanks bro!



This is your motivation to start your transformation today! Heads up!



You need to be absolutely clean shaven to start thinking about the makeup. Any beard/facial hair is instant exposer that you are using makeup in public.
However, as of now I wouldn't recommend to you using the makeup as you have active bumps/breakouts. What I would reccomend is simply starting some dermatologic therapy. It will do the most for you same as for me. There is really no way out of this besides the meds.



Thanks! I would say it goes like this:

30% - leanmaxxing
30% - skinmaxxing
20% - eyebrows
20% - hair


Really hard to point out the winner beacuse to achieve the effect, everything must go to another level. I would still look like shit being lean with acne and no brows. Or having good skin and brows but having shit hair and being fat. You need holistic commitment in every area, this is the only way.

damn im using tret 0.05 and it doesn't completely clear my skin. Planning on buying the 0.1 microsphere version next and see if that will work on the last bumps i keep on getting

 

[MaartenVaanThomm]

should i try isotret with tret do u think thats fine?

ive tried so many regular cleanses they all make my skin worse so i just use water + tret nightly

Just go to the dermatologist and start the treatment. You will not likely be able to fight acne just by yourself. And you can not use topical tret while taking isotretinoin oraly. It's totally forbidden.

damn im using tret 0.05 and it doesn't completely clear my skin. Planning on buying the 0.1 microsphere version next and see if that will work on the last bumps i keep on getting

My dosage was by oral intake

 

[Deleted member 19477]

"I work in corporate finance" - guy wearing construction worker uniform

Bro really turned his life around mirin

 

[GazeWithin]

You literally don’t need bimax just Genio your jaw is fine. Bimax will fuck your life up for 6 months and could potentially destroy harmony taking out tons of nerve sensitivity in the process.

 

[Deleted member 16515]

I'm amazed.
well done.
your next looksmax needs to be lip related

 

[MaartenVaanThomm]

I'm amazed.
well done.
your next looksmax needs to be lip related

A bit afraid of a lip lift. Don't wanna look uncanny, and it is very easy to mess the harmony with the lip lift

 

[ngsk8]

should i try isotret with tret do u think thats fine?

ive tried so many regular cleanses they all make my skin worse so i just use water + tret nightly

No. Please don't do both iso and tret. Your skin will go to shit.

 

[Deleted member 24940]

Ascended from MTN to HTN congrats boyo. What's your height btw, if your over 6'0 with your face your already Chadlite.

If not you can get a genioplasty ($5000 USD) you can ascend to Chadlite imo.

 

[MaartenVaanThomm]

Ascended from MTN to HTN congrats boyo. What's your height btw, if your over 6'0 with your face your already Chadlite.

If not you can get a genioplasty ($5000 USD) you can ascend to Chadlite imo.

Thank you. I am 6'2, so not enough for the halo, but could be perceived by some as "high". Not great not terrible I would say.
Not sure if I will do anything with the genio (I will be having bimax in approx. 2 years), but definitely must improve lip area in near future