My Ascension Plan

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Current stats: 16.5 y/o Ascension Plans – Ortho + Surgery + Softmax


Stats:

  • Age: 16.5
  • Height: 5'9/175 cm (5'11/180–181 cm w/ AF1 + lifts)
  • Weight: 70 kg
  • Bodyfat: 13%
  • Front profile: hmtn
  • Side profile: ltn
  • Issues: recessed mandible/chin, narrow palate, slighty recessed maxilla, big nose, asymettric eyes, nose(mainly due to dental issues and deviated septum) and jaw.(minor)
You'll just have to trust me with the ratings.


Hardmaxxing:
  • Orthodontics(I'll count it as hardmaxx as it easier to group them):
    • Traditional braces
    • SARPE
  • Surgeries:
    • Septoplasty (will be covered by insurance for deviated septum, after the orthognathic surgery)
    • Rhinoplasty (possibly with the septoplasty)
    • Bimax (will be covered by insurance and done at a public hospital but it's the best one in turkey so hopefully the plan will be good)
    • Might do genio and filler for my undereye tear through if volufiline doesn't do shit
    • The surgeries will start with bimax at around 18/18.5 hopefully finish including recovery before 20


Softmaxxing:
  • Brows/Lashes:
    • I lined up my brows to be pretty symmetrical so they have a good base to grow
    • Eyebrow dye (will dye them after a few months of minox+castor oil)
    • Minoxidil on brows
    • Castor oil on brows
    • The Ordinary Lash Serum for lashes hopefully its enough if not ill have my friend bring oral minox from abroad
  • Skin:
    • Pretty clear aside from rosacea and oily skin with big pores on my nose
    • Got accutane from a dermatologist today gonna start using it next week 20mg daily but i don't know for how long.
  • Teeth:
    • Gonna do pneumo's teeth whitening guide but with carbamide peroxide probably after braces.
  • Diet:
    • This shit is all over the place i wanted to do @Prettyboy 's diet but its very expensive where i live so im kind of in the middle. I eat whatever my mom makes one day and eat only eggs meat drink 1L milk etc. the next day. GUYS HELP ME WITH THIS SHIT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EAT
  • Physique:
    • Good. Bench pr 100kg, db curl 20kg for sets etc like im strong for my age and height but dont look strong. Bro like i have an athletic build whereas my friend that lifts only a bit heavier than me looks like a mini pekka he's a bit shorter like 5'8/173cm but still he fills out every shirt he's got. I got good genetics but not great 1.67 swr, good chest insertions other than the minor pectus i have, overall above average muscle bellies, arms are my lacking point but still not bad. Also have fucking unilateral gyno got it 4 months ago even though ive never been fat my whole life and also dont eat junk food, hopefully its goes away on its own. I have an ultrasound appointment on november for it though.


I know i skipped pharmaceuticals but dont plan to really use them as i dont really need them, thought about getting hgh from ssa but since that shit got busted and i dont have the money for domestic sources right now thats over. Although i plan to do a cycle in the future maybe rad-140 or smt i saw pneumo's thread on it he made good gains but its impossible to put on that much muscle in that time period with tren let alone rad. I'm not sure about pharmaceuticals for the time being but i'd like to put on more mass, i feel skinny.

That's the current plan, im waiting for a call from my orthodontist about SARPE right now. Any advice on how to make this process (mainly the surgeries) easier or better in any way would be appreciated.
 
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dnr
 
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dnr and dnc
 
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"I skipped pharmaceuticals"
 
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Kill yourself
 
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I read one molecule and stopped
 
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"I skipped pharmaceuticals"
Dont need glp-1 agonist since i had an ed when i was a kid and still have a hard time eating,hgh as i said dont have the money,maybe mt2 or minor stuff like that but my mom would kill me if she saw me injecting needles and nasal sprays as i heard have shit bioavailability. If u have anything in mind please tell me


why tf is the looksmaxxing section so fucking toxic bro geez guys, i would say get a life but i know most of you retards have nothing to do except hate on others trying to do something with themselves so go on and keep typing DNR until your fingers break:lul:
 
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Dont need glp-1 agonist since i had an ed when i was a kid and still have a hard time eating,hgh as i said dont have the money,maybe mt2 or minor stuff like that but my mom would kill me if she saw me injecting needles and nasal sprays as i heard have shit bioavailability. If u have anything in mind please tell me
Lol theres so many pharmaceuticals that mog hard.
 
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Lol theres so many pharmaceuticals that mog hard.
So could you tell me some im not too informed about them

btw the the surgeries aren't hypothetical i talked w my ortodontist today about the orthognathic surgery though there's still 1.5 years before i get them since im too young but it still is planned
 
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Current stats: 16.5 y/o Ascension Plans – Ortho + Surgery + Softmax


Stats:

  • Age: 16.5
  • Height: 5'9/175 cm (5'11/180–181 cm w/ AF1 + lifts)
  • Weight: 70 kg
  • Bodyfat: 13%
  • Front profile: hmtn
  • Side profile: ltn
  • Issues: recessed mandible/chin, narrow palate, slighty recessed maxilla, big nose, asymettric eyes, nose(mainly due to dental issues and deviated septum) and jaw.(minor)
You'll just have to trust me with the ratings.


Hardmaxxing:
  • Orthodontics(I'll count it as hardmaxx as it easier to group them):
    • Traditional braces
    • SARPE
  • Surgeries:
    • Septoplasty (will be covered by insurance for deviated septum, after the orthognathic surgery)
    • Rhinoplasty (possibly with the septoplasty)
    • Bimax (will be covered by insurance and done at a public hospital but it's the best one in turkey so hopefully the plan will be good)
    • Might do genio and filler for my undereye tear through if volufiline doesn't do shit
    • The surgeries will start with bimax at around 18/18.5 hopefully finish including recovery before 20


Softmaxxing:
  • Brows/Lashes:
    • I lined up my brows to be pretty symmetrical so they have a good base to grow
    • Eyebrow dye (will dye them after a few months of minox+castor oil)
    • Minoxidil on brows
    • Castor oil on brows
    • The Ordinary Lash Serum for lashes hopefully its enough if not ill have my friend bring oral minox from abroad
  • Skin:
    • Pretty clear aside from rosacea and oily skin with big pores on my nose
    • Got accutane from a dermatologist today gonna start using it next week 20mg daily but i don't know for how long.
  • Teeth:
    • Gonna do pneumo's teeth whitening guide but with carbamide peroxide probably after braces.
  • Diet:
    • This shit is all over the place i wanted to do @Prettyboy 's diet but its very expensive where i live so im kind of in the middle. I eat whatever my mom makes one day and eat only eggs meat drink 1L milk etc. the next day. GUYS HELP ME WITH THIS SHIT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EAT
  • Physique:
    • Good. Bench pr 100kg, db curl 20kg for sets etc like im strong for my age and height but dont look strong. Bro like i have an athletic build whereas my friend that lifts only a bit heavier than me looks like a mini pekka he's a bit shorter like 5'8/173cm but still he fills out every shirt he's got. I got good genetics but not great 1.67 swr, good chest insertions other than the minor pectus i have, overall above average muscle bellies, arms are my lacking point but still not bad. Also have fucking unilateral gyno got it 4 months ago even though ive never been fat my whole life and also dont eat junk food, hopefully its goes away on its own. I have an ultrasound appointment on november for it though.


I know i skipped pharmaceuticals but dont plan to really use them as i dont really need them, thought about getting hgh from ssa but since that shit got busted and i dont have the money for domestic sources right now thats over. Although i plan to do a cycle in the future maybe rad-140 or smt i saw pneumo's thread on it he made good gains but its impossible to put on that much muscle in that time period with tren let alone rad. I'm not sure about pharmaceuticals for the time being but i'd like to put on more mass, i feel skinny.

That's the current plan, im waiting for a call from my orthodontist about SARPE right now. Any advice on how to make this process (mainly the surgeries) easier or better in any way would be appreciated.
dnr
 
So could you tell me some im not too informed about them

btw the the surgeries aren't hypothetical i talked w my ortodontist today about the orthognathic surgery though there's still 1.5 years before i get them since im too young but it still is planned
Start with looking into Diuretics
 
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Start with looking into Diuretics
oh shit yeah my dumbass didnt include those into pharmaceuticals in my brain do you think loop diuretics are better or smt like furosemide and also where can i source these
 
Current stats: 16.5 y/o Ascension Plans – Ortho + Surgery + Softmax


Stats:

  • Age: 16.5
  • Height: 5'9/175 cm (5'11/180–181 cm w/ AF1 + lifts)
  • Weight: 70 kg
  • Bodyfat: 13%
  • Front profile: hmtn
  • Side profile: ltn
  • Issues: recessed mandible/chin, narrow palate, slighty recessed maxilla, big nose, asymettric eyes, nose(mainly due to dental issues and deviated septum) and jaw.(minor)
You'll just have to trust me with the ratings.


Hardmaxxing:
  • Orthodontics(I'll count it as hardmaxx as it easier to group them):
    • Traditional braces
    • SARPE
  • Surgeries:
    • Septoplasty (will be covered by insurance for deviated septum, after the orthognathic surgery)
    • Rhinoplasty (possibly with the septoplasty)
    • Bimax (will be covered by insurance and done at a public hospital but it's the best one in turkey so hopefully the plan will be good)
    • Might do genio and filler for my undereye tear through if volufiline doesn't do shit
    • The surgeries will start with bimax at around 18/18.5 hopefully finish including recovery before 20


Softmaxxing:
  • Brows/Lashes:
    • I lined up my brows to be pretty symmetrical so they have a good base to grow
    • Eyebrow dye (will dye them after a few months of minox+castor oil)
    • Minoxidil on brows
    • Castor oil on brows
    • The Ordinary Lash Serum for lashes hopefully its enough if not ill have my friend bring oral minox from abroad
  • Skin:
    • Pretty clear aside from rosacea and oily skin with big pores on my nose
    • Got accutane from a dermatologist today gonna start using it next week 20mg daily but i don't know for how long.
  • Teeth:
    • Gonna do pneumo's teeth whitening guide but with carbamide peroxide probably after braces.
  • Diet:
    • This shit is all over the place i wanted to do @Prettyboy 's diet but its very expensive where i live so im kind of in the middle. I eat whatever my mom makes one day and eat only eggs meat drink 1L milk etc. the next day. GUYS HELP ME WITH THIS SHIT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EAT
  • Physique:
    • Good. Bench pr 100kg, db curl 20kg for sets etc like im strong for my age and height but dont look strong. Bro like i have an athletic build whereas my friend that lifts only a bit heavier than me looks like a mini pekka he's a bit shorter like 5'8/173cm but still he fills out every shirt he's got. I got good genetics but not great 1.67 swr, good chest insertions other than the minor pectus i have, overall above average muscle bellies, arms are my lacking point but still not bad. Also have fucking unilateral gyno got it 4 months ago even though ive never been fat my whole life and also dont eat junk food, hopefully its goes away on its own. I have an ultrasound appointment on november for it though.


I know i skipped pharmaceuticals but dont plan to really use them as i dont really need them, thought about getting hgh from ssa but since that shit got busted and i dont have the money for domestic sources right now thats over. Although i plan to do a cycle in the future maybe rad-140 or smt i saw pneumo's thread on it he made good gains but its impossible to put on that much muscle in that time period with tren let alone rad. I'm not sure about pharmaceuticals for the time being but i'd like to put on more mass, i feel skinny.

That's the current plan, im waiting for a call from my orthodontist about SARPE right now. Any advice on how to make this process (mainly the surgeries) easier or better in any way would be appreciated.
Skipping the one thing that would actually make a difference lmao ( aside from the surgeries) :lul:
 
Skipping the one thing that would actually make a difference lmao ( aside from the surgeries) :lul:
Dont have the money tbh and also i dont wanna bust my ass trying to pin without my parents knowing or at least havent found a compund useful enough in my situation for me to go through such trouble.
 
Dont have the money tbh and also i dont wanna bust my ass trying to pin without my parents knowing or at least havent found a compund useful enough in my situation for me to go through such trouble.
True I guess but its what would make the biggest difference and isnt that expensive if you get a job, also its not too hard to hide once you know what your doing.
 
True I guess but its what would make the biggest difference and isnt that expensive if you get a job, also its not too hard to hide once you know what your doing.
Im 17 in 4 months what peptide or test could could make a big difference rn i think its a bit late for stuff like hgh. I already have a good physique so no need for muscle building cycles but im still planning on doing a sarms cycle after the accutane. I didnt research much about diuretics and there's also sourcing it which i dont think i have a supplier that sells diuretics like furosemide the only stuff i can think of that is easy to get and use rn is smt like mt-2 or bpc-157 for my knee injury. I cant get a job rn i have to study for the university exam and my time management is shit so i wouldnt be able to do other things like gym, hangin out w friends etc. if i had a job and it would also fuck up my sleep getting home late from work too tired to eat and do skincare.
 
Im 17 in 4 months what peptide or test could could make a big difference rn i think its a bit late for stuff like hgh. I already have a good physique so no need for muscle building cycles but im still planning on doing a sarms cycle after the accutane. I didnt research much about diuretics and there's also sourcing it which i dont think i have a supplier that sells diuretics like furosemide the only stuff i can think of that is easy to get and use rn is smt like mt-2 or bpc-157 for my knee injury. I cant get a job rn i have to study for the university exam and my time management is shit so i wouldnt be able to do other things like gym, hangin out w friends etc. if i had a job and it would also fuck up my sleep getting home late from work too tired to eat and do skincare.
why do you think its too late for hgh? Unless your obese as fuck theres no way your growth plates are closed at 16 so I think it would still be effective and just bonesmash while your on it, also combine it with test and anavar and your frame would grow like crazy, but getting a job should be a given, you either wanna ascend or you dont, and everything that actually works is gonna cost money.
 
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get blood test regularly drinking 1L milk + the eggs and all the other shit ull end up eating 2x the required calcium,tho for some people its okay some people develop hypercalcemia which will basically kill you.
 
why do you think its too late for hgh? Unless your obese as fuck theres no way your growth plates are closed at 16 so I think it would still be effective and just bonesmash while your on it, also combine it with test and anavar and your frame would grow like crazy, but getting a job should be a given, you either wanna ascend or you dont, and everything that actually works is gonna cost money.
I just checked theyre almost closed and i have 4 months before im 17:feelswhy:
 
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I just checked theyre almost closed and i have 4 months before im 17:feelswhy:
shit thats brutal, but honestly doctors will tell you their almost closed if their anything other than fully open, you should at least get on an ai and if you can afford hgh then get some, no point in not trying at least.
 
shit thats brutal, but honestly doctors will tell you their almost closed if their anything other than fully open, you should at least get on an ai and if you can afford hgh then get some, no point in not trying at least.
I was gonna pin hgh found someone that sold it near me but the price he gave me was too much like 500 dollars monthly just for 6 iu hgh everyday not including needles alcohol wipes ai so it was too expensive i am thinking about doing oral sarms cycle like rad 140 with mk and maybe a serm or ai but someone in the forum told me to not use sarms or anything without pinning test cus i will fuck up my lh fsh axis so i dunno what to do. Should i use rad 140 mk for 6-8 weeks low dose?
 

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