My ceph scans - How bad is it? (M18)

[Pierrebatos]

I was planned to get jaw surgery through the public healthcare system here in Italy, but got cucked out after the first two appointments after they decided to stop going forward and not continue anymore.

Which I'm alright with, as I'd prefer going private to have the sense of security of being able to choose what surgeon will operate on me (I don't want to be some surgeon's first patient and get brutally botched), and I also get a saying in the aesthetical outcome of the surgery.

Since I'm from Italy I have access to plenty of highly praised surgeons so it shouldn't be difficult to find the right one.

In the meantime while I'm searching for the right surgeon, all I'm left with is this ceph graphs I got done in the hospital without even getting the measurement values. Does anybody have a clue how to read them? I look utterly recessed in them which checks out, but I just wanna know how bad it is.

Is it just the lower or also the upper that's a problem? Is the mandibular recession severe?
I am partially compensated by Invisalign and class 2 elastics, I stopped treatment halfway as I realised what those bastards were doing was utterly useless and would only make things worse for later.

I'm just looking for opinions, I know my surgeon will handle everything but I want to at least know what he'll do to my face.

 

[Aleski157]

jew

 

[Ascendant2364]

I was planned to get jaw surgery through the public healthcare system here in Italy, but got cucked out after the first two appointments after they decided to stop going forward and not continue anymore.

Which I'm alright with, as I'd prefer going private to have the sense of security of being able to choose what surgeon will operate on me (I don't want to be some surgeon's first patient and get brutally botched), and I also get a saying in the aesthetical outcome of the surgery.

Since I'm from Italy I have access to plenty of highly praised surgeons so it shouldn't be difficult to find the right one.

In the meantime while I'm searching for the right surgeon, all I'm left with is this ceph graphs I got done in the hospital without even getting the measurement values. Does anybody have a clue how to read them? I look utterly recessed in them which checks out, but I just wanna know how bad it is.

Is it just the lower or also the upper that's a problem? Is the mandibular recession severe?
I am partially compensated by Invisalign and class 2 elastics, I stopped treatment halfway as I realised what those bastards were doing was utterly useless and would only make things worse for later.

I'm just looking for opinions, I know my surgeon will handle everything but I want to at least know what he'll do to my face.
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I'm no expert but yea lower third is nerfing hard. You need ccw rotation for you Mandibular plane angle and . So bimax is probably an option for you. Don't take my word on it tho.

 

[yussimania]

Holy posture

 

[Pierrebatos]

Holy posture

To be fair I wanted to make the whole ceph look as bad as possible to increase the chances of getting the surgery through the public system. Usually my posture is fairly straight and I just and mew to hide that lower third.

 

[Pierrebatos]

I'm no expert but yea lower third is nerfing hard. You need ccw rotation for you Mandibular plane angle and . So bimax is probably an option for you. Don't take my word on it tho.

You're right CCW would absolutely help. I'm not sure if I can get much of it though, as I already have a flat occlusal plane, so more ccw would strain it.

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

To be fair I wanted to make the whole ceph look as bad as possible to increase the chances of getting the surgery through the public system. Usually my posture is fairly straight and I just and mew to hide that lower third.

When they are planning, they normalise orientation, so your posture would have made no difference.

 

[Pierrebatos]

When they are planning, they normalise orientation, so your posture would have made no difference.

makes sense