My grandma getting a stroke made me realized how shit life really is

[Deleted member 10913]

Yes but it's an innate thing within all humans to desire what's pleasurable, even if you're religious the reason you might restrict certain pleasurable acts is because you beleive in the afterlife you'll be rewarded with something greater or more pleasurable.

Is it not authenticity instead of pleasure?

 

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[goat2x]

So you agree with me on this?

If it as you say nothing i honestly doubt we would even be in this condition. Everything forces us to accept that life has meaning so why wouldn't it then? Idk if you hold darwinists views, I personally don't but would you say that from an evolutionary view it's beneficial for mankind to hold a meaning in life? If this is the case then why would it be false for darwinists regard everything that's beneficial as a truth..

This begs the question can something that isn't pragmatically beneficial ever be the truth?


It works because it's the truth. That's the confirmation. It's not like i ignore something that is known for something more pleasant, if you say i do.. then what do I ignore? . For me to ever function as a human being forces me to accept that life has meaning.

agree on what?

this doesnt even make any sense, like i said non philosophy and religion good for the masses
its beneficial for the masses to hold meaning for life yeah i agree, not everything benefical is the truth and it will get disproven as the years go by
i dont think anything is the goal of life, when most ppl didnt have religion or din have iq to comprehend family they made up families because of no condoms and human urges lol

yes it could be, because it probably trascends than humanity

thats not a confirmation, if i said something that cant be disproven or either proven would u accept it? and it even goes back to the humanity arguement

you are ignoring something thats more realistic but not more pleasent even doe it has more evidence as of right now

yes i agree you are either coping or roping i said it already

 

[Deleted member 6273]

Is it not authenticity instead of pleasure?

Well I would say pleasure definitely plays a role, I know the bible describes heaven as a land of milk and honey (i.e pleasurable things)

I googled what the Quran says and I got this.
"
Each person lives near to the Lord in a garden (3:15) of perpetual bliss (13:23), with flowing springs (88:10–16), and flowing rivers (5:119) of incorruptible water and unchangeable milk (47:15). Each garden is the width of the whole heavens and earth (3:133).

In each garden is a mansion (9:72), a high throne (88:10–16) of dignity (52:20) in a grove of cool shade (36:56–57), an adorned couch (18:31), rows of cushions, rich carpets spread out, a cup (Q88:10–16) full of wine (52:23), and every meat (52:22) and fruit (Q36:56–57) that is like the food on Earth (Q2:25). Each person is adorned in golden and pearl bracelets (Q35:33) and green garments of fine silk and brocade (Q18:31).

Both men and women will have beautiful and pure spouses (Q2:25, Q4:57), accompanied by any children that did not go to Jahannam (Q52:21), and attended to by servant-boys with the spotless appearance similar to a protected pearls (Q52:24). The Believers Men will get untouched (Q55:56) virgin companions of equal age (56:35-38) and have large, beautiful eyes (37:48).

Jannah is described as an eternal dwelling (Q3:136), with its supreme felicity and greatest bliss being God's good pleasure"

 

[goat2x]

Well I would say pleasure definitely plays a role, I know the bible describes heaven as a land of milk and honey (i.e pleasurable things)

I googled what the Quran says and I got this.
"
Each person lives near to the Lord in a garden (3:15) of perpetual bliss (13:23), with flowing springs (88:10–16), and flowing rivers (5:119) of incorruptible water and unchangeable milk (47:15). Each garden is the width of the whole heavens and earth (3:133).

In each garden is a mansion (9:72), a high throne (88:10–16) of dignity (52:20) in a grove of cool shade (36:56–57), an adorned couch (18:31), rows of cushions, rich carpets spread out, a cup (Q88:10–16) full of wine (52:23), and every meat (52:22) and fruit (Q36:56–57) that is like the food on Earth (Q2:25). Each person is adorned in golden and pearl bracelets (Q35:33) and green garments of fine silk and brocade (Q18:31).

Both men and women will have beautiful and pure spouses (Q2:25, Q4:57), accompanied by any children that did not go to Jahannam (Q52:21), and attended to by servant-boys with the spotless appearance similar to a protected pearls (Q52:24). The Believers Men will get untouched (Q55:56) virgin companions of equal age (56:35-38) and have large, beautiful eyes (37:48).

Jannah is described as an eternal dwelling (Q3:136), with its supreme felicity and greatest bliss being God's good pleasure"

both islam and christianity describes after life (heaven) as a life that transcends your earth life
fax

 

[Bewusst]

Has she been vaccinated?

 

[volcelfatcel]

agree on what?

this doesnt even make any sense, like i said non philosophy and religion good for the masses
its beneficial for the masses to hold meaning for life yeah i agree, not everything benefical is the truth and it will get disproven as the years go by
i dont think anything is the goal of life, when most ppl didnt have religion or din have iq to comprehend family they made up families because of no condoms and human urges lol

yes it could be, because it probably trascends than humanity

thats not a confirmation, if i said something that cant be disproven or either proven would u accept it? and it even goes back to the humanity arguement

you are ignoring something thats more realistic but not more pleasent even doe it has more evidence as of right now

yes i agree you are either coping or roping i said it already

orospu

 

[goat2x]

Has she been vaccinated?

yea lol

unironically what caused it pfizer 2x

 

[Bewusst]

yea lol

unironically what caused it pfizer 2x

Did anyone in your family try to talk her out of it?

 

[goat2x]

Did anyone in your family try to talk her out of it?

yea me, but she had problems before (she was mentally handicapped)

basically she sucked up everything what the govornment said, even doe after the 1st vaccine she felt bad and i told her not to do it 100 times, but honestly she is just idk how should i say it
but she is a mental level of 1st grader honestly, its sad but it is what it is

 

[Bewusst]

yea me, but she had problems before (she was mentally handicapped)

basically she sucked up everything what the govornment said, even doe after the 1st vaccine she felt bad and i told her not to do it 100 times, but honestly she is just idk how should i say it
but she is a mental level of 1st grader honestly, its sad but it is what it is

Cruel world

At least you tried tho

 

[BigJimsWornOutTires]

my grandma got a stroke today , she likely wont talk normal ever again, half of her face was drooping down it was brutal

when i drove home i had a long ass elliot rodger thinking

why are we even living life, life is so shit its pure suffering , you wage slave everyday, you see your loved ones dying, you maybe get bullied if your ugly,or you rot at home like abused lonely anumal, age like shit just to what? lol maybe you can eat a slize of pizza end of the day



fucking hell

Brutal. And its way more brutal for others. The question is, Why? We can bullshit one another all day and night with medical explanations, scientific facts, and waste of time researches, but that question will remain unresolved to the ones that care.

 

[Deleted member 10913]

agree on what?

I didn´t entirely understand what you meant there but it sounded like you agreed that we can´t do or find more out outside of our limit. For all of time. So not just today and maybe yesterday we can.

not everything benefical is the truth and it will get disproven as the years go by
i dont think anything is the goal of life, when most ppl didnt have religion or din have iq to comprehend family they made up families because of no condoms and human urges lol

I disagree on this. There is a meaning for life for we are hardwired to do so. According to someone like Heidegger the move towards authenticity is the goal of life. we´re ought to live a certain way, rejecting this or parts of it means we get unrooted from or own existence. Anything that would cause this could never be the truth or close to it. I too hold this view.

I believe it´s a requirement that truth is beneficial.

thats not a confirmation, if i said something that cant be disproven or either proven would u accept it? and it even goes back to the humanity arguement

Yes if it´s beneficial. I would´ve imo that´s the confirmation.

you are ignoring something thats more realistic but not more pleasent even doe it has more evidence as of right now

What´s more realistic then the authentic way humans are ought to think? i personally don't think there is such a thing

yes i agree you are either coping or roping i said it already

meh i wouldn't agree on this view. It's either the move I make towards the authenticity or be derooted from it. I regard coping more with sophism.

 

[Deleted member 10913]

Well I would say pleasure definitely plays a role, I know the bible describes heaven as a land of milk and honey (i.e pleasurable things)

I googled what the Quran says and I got this.
"
Each person lives near to the Lord in a garden (3:15) of perpetual bliss (13:23), with flowing springs (88:10–16), and flowing rivers (5:119) of incorruptible water and unchangeable milk (47:15). Each garden is the width of the whole heavens and earth (3:133).

In each garden is a mansion (9:72), a high throne (88:10–16) of dignity (52:20) in a grove of cool shade (36:56–57), an adorned couch (18:31), rows of cushions, rich carpets spread out, a cup (Q88:10–16) full of wine (52:23), and every meat (52:22) and fruit (Q36:56–57) that is like the food on Earth (Q2:25). Each person is adorned in golden and pearl bracelets (Q35:33) and green garments of fine silk and brocade (Q18:31).

Both men and women will have beautiful and pure spouses (Q2:25, Q4:57), accompanied by any children that did not go to Jahannam (Q52:21), and attended to by servant-boys with the spotless appearance similar to a protected pearls (Q52:24). The Believers Men will get untouched (Q55:56) virgin companions of equal age (56:35-38) and have large, beautiful eyes (37:48).

Jannah is described as an eternal dwelling (Q3:136), with its supreme felicity and greatest bliss being God's good pleasure"

The main reason heaven is a place is within our creed a higher place is because it should be a more authentic place in regards to the earth for closeness to God is what makes heaven more noble place to be.

 

[goat2x]

I didn´t entirely understand what you meant there but it sounded like you agreed that we can´t do or find more out outside of our limit. For all of time. So not just today and maybe yesterday we can.

I disagree on this. There is a meaning for life for we are hardwired to do so. According to someone like Heidegger the move towards authenticity is the goal of life. we´re ought to live a certain way, rejecting this or parts of it means we get unrooted from or own existence. Anything that would cause this could never be the truth or close to it. I too hold this view.

I believe it´s a requirement that truth is beneficial.

Yes if it´s beneficial. I would´ve imo that´s the confirmation.

What´s more realistic then the authentic way humans are ought to think? i personally don't think there is such a think.

meh i wouldn't agree on this view. It's either the move I make towards the authenticity or be derooted from it. I regard coping more with sophism.

whats the hardwire? to reproduce? i addressed it already in my previous reply, if most humans accepted the fact that nothing matters we would rope yeah, but i look at humans as an unsifnigicant figure,
whats humans ough to think anyways? i dont really understand what u mean

there could be lot of more beneficial things human could do to more succesfully reproduce and inhabit earth but we still dont do it, what does that tell you?

and u debunked yourself, you really said that humans are just evolved to think a certain way there fore the is no original meaning any ways
so there fore your point is just the opposite of what ur saying

the others i answered already on the other reply

ur coping with meaning for the sake of it, its just what it is better than acceotung reality for existence i agree

 

[Deleted member 10987]

almost all 'iconic' philosophers were pretty nihilistic & gave very little meaning to life tbh

Historylet cope

 

[goat2x]

I didn´t entirely understand what you meant there but it sounded like you agreed that we can´t do or find more out outside of our limit. For all of time. So not just today and maybe yesterday we can.

I disagree on this. There is a meaning for life for we are hardwired to do so. According to someone like Heidegger the move towards authenticity is the goal of life. we´re ought to live a certain way, rejecting this or parts of it means we get unrooted from or own existence. Anything that would cause this could never be the truth or close to it. I too hold this view.

I believe it´s a requirement that truth is beneficial.

Yes if it´s beneficial. I would´ve imo that´s the confirmation.

What´s more realistic then the authentic way humans are ought to think? i personally don't think there is such a thing

meh i wouldn't agree on this view. It's either the move I make towards the authenticity or be derooted from it. I regard coping more with sophism.

No its just you just made wrong arguements
saying things like you cant prove it wrong so why not believe it

 

[Deleted member 4224]

one of the most obvs copes

but its just cope end of the day if oyu are in the verge you will fall back all the time

it is what it is

Not a cope tbh faith creates very meaningful life

 

[goat2x]

The main reason heaven is a place is within our creed a higher place is because it should be a more authentic place in regards to the earth for closeness to God is what makes heaven more noble place to be.

my man your completely twisting and derailing the converstation

i dont really understand whats the point of replies like this

 

[Deleted member 10913]

my man your completely twisting and derailing the converstation

i dont really understand whats the point of replies like this

man this was for that africanguy lol whatever.

 

[goat2x]

man this was for that africanguy lol whatever.

i know but he was generally right,

he told u heaven is more pleasurable than earth which is generally right, both in christianity and islam

the feels you get, the things you get etc

but you talked about sum irrelevant things really like what heaven is and why its more pleasurable "so you agreed"
i mean u can feel free to reply whatever but thats my opinion

 

[Deleted member 10913]

i know but he was generally right,

he told u heaven is more pleasurable than earth which is generally right, both in christianity and islam

the feels you get, the things you get etc

but you talked about sum irrelevant things really like what heaven is and why its more pleasurable "so you agreed"
i mean u can feel free to reply whatever but thats my opinion

Yea because he mentioned that the goal of life was to get pleasure. I don't hold this view so asked him if it's authenticity or pleasure that we seeked. I answered him with that in mind.

 

[Uglybrazilian]

bro thats sad but there is also good things in life, keep going, treat people well and dont let your mind be consumed by hate, anger and negativity. Life is already hard, you dont need to make things even harder.

 

[Deleted member 10913]

there could be lot of more beneficial things human could do to more succesfully reproduce and inhabit earth but we still dont do it, what does that tell you?

idk tbh..

and u debunked yourself, you really said that humans are just evolved to think a certain way there fore the is no original meaning any ways
so there fore your point is just the opposite of what ur saying

yea.. i don't hold that mankind evolved out of an animals. having meaning of life should've always been the case for us. If i used it i retract the word that we evolved to think like this.

whats the hardwire? to reproduce? i addressed it already in my previous reply, if most humans accepted the fact that nothing matters we would rope yeah, but i look at humans as an unsifnigicant figure,
whats humans ough to think anyways? i dont really understand what u mean

We´re suposed to hold that life has meaning, the reverse could never be more truthful this for we'd be derooted from everything.

ur coping with meaning for the sake of it, its just what it is better than acceotung reality for existence i agree

but what is this reality then i am neglecting?? idk if you answered it or not, if you did can you quote the sentence again?

 

[goat2x]

idk tbh..

yea.. i don't hold that mankind evolved out of an animals. having meaning of life should've always been the case for us. If i used it i retract the word that we evolved to think like this.


We´re suposed to hold that life has meaning, the reverse could never be more truthful this for we'd be derooted from everything.

but what is this reality then i am neglecting?? idk if you answered it or not, if you did can you quote the sentence again?

well it does tell you that we certainly arent that beneficial as u tryna make it out really lol
therefore is it really the truth?

so you think we were created this way, but most abrahamic religions go against darwinism so i dont really understand what u tryna make tbh
your arguement would turn out into a religion debate which i dont wanna do rn maybe next time

ye i know but that doesnt really mean anything i explained it already

ur neglegting evidence for the meaning of nothingness really you just look at a tunnel like u said you dont like philosophers who arent anti philosophy lol

listen i think we had a fun discussion but i appriciate u tryna change my mind if u wanted to not just tryna argue for the sake of it

i will get back to this issue in the future i just need time

 

[lutte]

Well I would say pleasure definitely plays a role, I know the bible describes heaven as a land of milk and honey (i.e pleasurable things)

I googled what the Quran says and I got this.
"
Each person lives near to the Lord in a garden (3:15) of perpetual bliss (13:23), with flowing springs (88:10–16), and flowing rivers (5:119) of incorruptible water and unchangeable milk (47:15). Each garden is the width of the whole heavens and earth (3:133).

In each garden is a mansion (9:72), a high throne (88:10–16) of dignity (52:20) in a grove of cool shade (36:56–57), an adorned couch (18:31), rows of cushions, rich carpets spread out, a cup (Q88:10–16) full of wine (52:23), and every meat (52:22) and fruit (Q36:56–57) that is like the food on Earth (Q2:25). Each person is adorned in golden and pearl bracelets (Q35:33) and green garments of fine silk and brocade (Q18:31).

Both men and women will have beautiful and pure spouses (Q2:25, Q4:57), accompanied by any children that did not go to Jahannam (Q52:21), and attended to by servant-boys with the spotless appearance similar to a protected pearls (Q52:24). The Believers Men will get untouched (Q55:56) virgin companions of equal age (56:35-38) and have large, beautiful eyes (37:48).

Jannah is described as an eternal dwelling (Q3:136), with its supreme felicity and greatest bliss being God's good pleasure"

where are the white stacy virgin concubines with regenerating hymens that you get to fuck with your ever-growing palm tree dick? @Baldingman1998

 

[lutte]

ye i get that i mean we can discover more and more about life in the future years but thats fallacious thinking

you will probably never discover the meaning of life because lets be real, its probably nothing.

confirming this is difficult doe, but thinking it otherwise until its proven when the thing your believing in isnt proven at all is coping

meaning of life is life

 

[Deleted member 10913]

listen i think we had a fun discussion but i appriciate u tryna change my mind if u wanted to not just tryna argue for the sake of it

i will get back to this issue in the future i just need time

hmm okay, legit had no intention to make a arguments it began after the quote i made asking for a explenation i'd guess.

But why ? i don't think it's in any way beneficial to think more then what's helpfull. wether individually our in groups

Would've been better to just point out that masses are made of persons. That would've been a shorter answer. In the end we wouldn't change each others mind so yea. The argument with in regards of darwinism like i said i retract if i made it. Certainly i don't believe in it. As for the reason i used it was that even from that perspective a meaning for life should be holded as truth. It's my understanding that darwinists regard anything that's beneficial for survival as truth, that's why i used it.

ur neglegting evidence for the meaning of nothingness

Yea i don't hold that there is strong evidence for this.

like u said you dont like philosophers who arent anti philosophy lol

haha yea i honestly don't. Most of them I see as a waste of time. The only one i like from Europe is Heidegger. That's it i believe..\

 

[Baldingman1998]

400 weeks looksmaxxing 1 Meeks subliminal

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[TITUS]

Once you are born it's only downhill from there.

 

[johncruz12345]

life is gud...

 

[Baldingman1998]

Once you are born it's only downhill from there.

After high school/university it's over

 

[johncruz12345]

After high school/university it's over

Cope. woman love bald men

 

[Baldingman1998]

Cope. woman love bald men

 

[Deleted member 13226]

think positive at least you are not a straving african child that gets raped everyday

 

[Deleted member 14455]

Once you are born it's only downhill from there.

my 6-12 i should've getting hit by a light at age 13. would've been a happy birthday gift.

 

[Deleted member 14455]

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another day another proof that 3/4 is all that matters

 

[Beetlejuice]

life is too brutal

 

[Baldingman1998]

another day another proof that 3/4 is all that matters

I'm incel while he is billionaire lol

 

[Deleted member 14455]

I'm incel while he is billionaire lol

that's because he mogs you to death by the 3/4

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

whats making it even mean? jfl

you get to be a bipolar schizo tarnished oldcel like amnesia thinking about pussy 24/7

he would be depressed without this forum tbh
at least this place gives him sort of a progress counter

 

[Baldingman1998]

that's because he mogs you to death by the 3/4

 

[Deleted member 14455]

are we ok bro?

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

Well I would say pleasure definitely plays a role, I know the bible describes heaven as a land of milk and honey (i.e pleasurable things)

I googled what the Quran says and I got this.
"
Each person lives near to the Lord in a garden (3:15) of perpetual bliss (13:23), with flowing springs (88:10–16), and flowing rivers (5:119) of incorruptible water and unchangeable milk (47:15). Each garden is the width of the whole heavens and earth (3:133).

In each garden is a mansion (9:72), a high throne (88:10–16) of dignity (52:20) in a grove of cool shade (36:56–57), an adorned couch (18:31), rows of cushions, rich carpets spread out, a cup (Q88:10–16) full of wine (52:23), and every meat (52:22) and fruit (Q36:56–57) that is like the food on Earth (Q2:25). Each person is adorned in golden and pearl bracelets (Q35:33) and green garments of fine silk and brocade (Q18:31).

Both men and women will have beautiful and pure spouses (Q2:25, Q4:57), accompanied by any children that did not go to Jahannam (Q52:21), and attended to by servant-boys with the spotless appearance similar to a protected pearls (Q52:24). The Believers Men will get untouched (Q55:56) virgin companions of equal age (56:35-38) and have large, beautiful eyes (37:48).

Jannah is described as an eternal dwelling (Q3:136), with its supreme felicity and greatest bliss being God's good pleasure"

dnrd much but pleasure is only good when you have to work for it. if you dont use your brain and body they rot and you get brain disease and grow weaker earlier.
life is just making up goals so you dont rope

 

[Baldingman1998]

are we ok bro?

are we ok bro?

 

[Deleted member 14166]

my grandma got a stroke today , she likely wont talk normal ever again, half of her face was drooping down it was brutal

when i drove home i had a long ass elliot rodger thinking

why are we even living life, life is so shit its pure suffering , you wage slave everyday, you see your loved ones dying, you maybe get bullied if your ugly,or you rot at home like abused lonely anumal, age like shit just to what? lol maybe you can eat a slize of pizza end of the day



fucking hell

“To live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering.”​

― Friedrich Nietzsche

 

[Deleted member 9274]

thats the definition of cope (your ignoring reality just because of the seek of your well being)

its human nature to discover whats more than given always, we are kinda like that

Definitely one of the better threads i read this week, but i only disagree on this. Coping is accepting reality and trying find a new way to deal with that reality. But imo this definition only applies if the cope is good and if you are true to yourself and not one like religion.

 

[Deleted member 14138]

my grandma got a stroke today , she likely wont talk normal ever again, half of her face was drooping down it was brutal

when i drove home i had a long ass elliot rodger thinking

why are we even living life, life is so shit its pure suffering , you wage slave everyday, you see your loved ones dying, you maybe get bullied if your ugly,or you rot at home like abused lonely anumal, age like shit just to what? lol maybe you can eat a slize of pizza end of the day



fucking hell

my grandma died 6 months ago because she was pushed off to the side for "covid" patients.

 

[studiocel]

No such thing as a happy ending in this life.

 

[weallburninhell]

my grandma got a stroke today , she likely wont talk normal ever again, half of her face was drooping down it was brutal

when i drove home i had a long ass elliot rodger thinking

why are we even living life, life is so shit its pure suffering , you wage slave everyday, you see your loved ones dying, you maybe get bullied if your ugly,or you rot at home like abused lonely anumal, age like shit just to what? lol maybe you can eat a slize of pizza end of the day



fucking hell

lol my granma die, didnt give a shit