My Maxillary Expansion via Softmaxxing Guide (depthcels GTFIH)

[chinprojectiongod]

yeah, it hurts at first from the pressure you exert on the soft palate, but you should get used to it pretty quick

alright, thanks for the guide and quick reply

 

[winternoc]

A lot of you fuckers have been asking me about how I expanded my maxilla by miles in around 2 months, here's the full in-depth explanation on all methods I have used.

Benefits of well-developed maxillae:

Maxilla affects more parts of your skull than you think; your undereye support is greatly affected by your maxillary development, as your infraorbital position depends greatly on the position of your maxilla, that's why you can see a lot of people with flat maxillae having shit undereye support (you can call it lower eyelid exposure or whatever); forward growth is also affected by it a bit due to your lower teeth's alignment with your upper teeth, therefore the more forward it is, the more space your mandible would have to grow forward. I got quite a lot of forward growth myself, but I also firmly believe that other things I did for my lower third contributed to that (see my softmaxxing post for what else I did).

The only method I have used for maxillary expansion is thumb pulling. Lots of you will say it's cope, but it worked for me, as well as loads of other people, so I am a big thumb pulling advocate, and will show you how to do it properly.

Just so you keep the intrigue, here are the before/after pictures:

Spoiler: Comparison

Before:
View attachment 3044608

After:
View attachment 3044609

(both pics taken under exact same angle, unstretched, unfrauded, even if you say that the pic is slightly rotated, or even if someone's head is slightly tilted, but still facing the camera at a perfect 90 degrees angle, the size of the maxillary triangle is what matters in the end, that's what's being compared)

The basics of Thumb Pulling:

Thumb pulling is used to.... yapyapyapyap- just stick your thumbs in your mouth and ascend.

Your upper palate is divided into two: the soft and the hard palates. You can differentiate between them pretty easily: the hard palate is at the front and has a riffled texture to it, whereas the soft palate is further back, starts around your GPF (greater palatine foramen, the part further back where your teeth come closer to each other from both sides)

View attachment 3044599

This is more important than you think, as SO many of you got VERY confused while I was trying to explain it without a diagram.

The positioning of thumbs:

I placed both of my thumbs just beyond the BORDER between the hard & the soft palates. My thumbs are not fully fitting in between the GPFs, so I rotate them slightly, so they barely fit and are "compressed" against each other in between the GPFs, so that they are also more secure in there.

(Rough) Demonstration:


View attachment 3044619

The positioning of arms, fingers & rest of the body:

Body:
I laid down on the bed, with my head on a pillow;

Rest of fingers:
I put my index fingers around my browridge, the rest are just wherever

(VERY rough) Demonstration LMAO:

View attachment 3044630

Arms:
While thumbs were already in my mouth and I'm already laying down, I press both of my elbows to my chest.

The process:

I pulled straight forward (perpendicular to my face) with my thumbs, while simultaneously pressing into my brows with my index fingers. I engaged my triceps to increase the pull force. The fact that my thumbs were facing slightly outwards, as demonstrated in the diagram, made the resultant force a little bit more sideways on each side respectively, so the palate expanded both forward and outward.

Demonstration of resultant force/desired direction of pull on my good friend Alien:
View attachment 3044648

Intensity/duration/schedule:

I pulled as hard as I could for as long as I could for one continuous rep, around 20-30 seconds, once a day (nightly).


Enjoy your ascension fellas, and go slay stacies. Much love to yall (no homo)

Looks as if your nose became slightly more upturned

 

[handsomeman]

A lot of you fuckers have been asking me about how I expanded my maxilla by miles in around 2 months, here's the full in-depth explanation on all methods I have used.

Benefits of well-developed maxillae:

Maxilla affects more parts of your skull than you think; your undereye support is greatly affected by your maxillary development, as your infraorbital position depends greatly on the position of your maxilla, that's why you can see a lot of people with flat maxillae having shit undereye support (you can call it lower eyelid exposure or whatever); forward growth is also affected by it a bit due to your lower teeth's alignment with your upper teeth, therefore the more forward it is, the more space your mandible would have to grow forward. I got quite a lot of forward growth myself, but I also firmly believe that other things I did for my lower third contributed to that (see my softmaxxing post for what else I did).

The only method I have used for maxillary expansion is thumb pulling. Lots of you will say it's cope, but it worked for me, as well as loads of other people, so I am a big thumb pulling advocate, and will show you how to do it properly.

Just so you keep the intrigue, here are the before/after pictures:

Spoiler: Comparison

Before:
View attachment 3044608

After:
View attachment 3044609

(both pics taken under exact same angle, unstretched, unfrauded, even if you say that the pic is slightly rotated, or even if someone's head is slightly tilted, but still facing the camera at a perfect 90 degrees angle, the size of the maxillary triangle is what matters in the end, that's what's being compared)

The basics of Thumb Pulling:

Thumb pulling is used to.... yapyapyapyap- just stick your thumbs in your mouth and ascend.

Your upper palate is divided into two: the soft and the hard palates. You can differentiate between them pretty easily: the hard palate is at the front and has a riffled texture to it, whereas the soft palate is further back, starts around your GPF (greater palatine foramen, the part further back where your teeth come closer to each other from both sides)

View attachment 3044599

This is more important than you think, as SO many of you got VERY confused while I was trying to explain it without a diagram.

The positioning of thumbs:

I placed both of my thumbs just beyond the BORDER between the hard & the soft palates. My thumbs are not fully fitting in between the GPFs, so I rotate them slightly, so they barely fit and are "compressed" against each other in between the GPFs, so that they are also more secure in there.

(Rough) Demonstration:


View attachment 3044619

The positioning of arms, fingers & rest of the body:

Body:
I laid down on the bed, with my head on a pillow;

Rest of fingers:
I put my index fingers around my browridge, the rest are just wherever

(VERY rough) Demonstration LMAO:

View attachment 3044630

Arms:
While thumbs were already in my mouth and I'm already laying down, I press both of my elbows to my chest.

The process:

I pulled straight forward (perpendicular to my face) with my thumbs, while simultaneously pressing into my brows with my index fingers. I engaged my triceps to increase the pull force. The fact that my thumbs were facing slightly outwards, as demonstrated in the diagram, made the resultant force a little bit more sideways on each side respectively, so the palate expanded both forward and outward.

Demonstration of resultant force/desired direction of pull on my good friend Alien:
View attachment 3044648

Intensity/duration/schedule:

I pulled as hard as I could for as long as I could for one continuous rep, around 20-30 seconds, once a day (nightly).


Enjoy your ascension fellas, and go slay stacies. Much love to yall (no homo)

Wouldn’t palate expander be better or no?

 

[xnj]

Wouldn’t palate expander be better or no?

it only expands hard palate

 

[Deleted member 13264]

Water. Gave you a react for effort though.
​

 

[xnj]

Looks as if your nose became slightly more upturned

yeah, i noticed that too. that is due to the maxilla expanding as well.

 

[Cr™]

Is it normal to feel as if the palate is ripping from one side more and the other side a bit too? I'm guessing this is like you said it reaction to pressure for the first time

 

[xnj]

Is it normal to feel as if the palate is ripping from one side more and the other side a bit too? I'm guessing this is like you said it reaction to pressure for the first time

yeah, of course for the first time it will probably feel like something youve never felt before. shouldnt feel bad tho, just a “different” feeling. also if your maxilla was imbalanced before you started, maybe that compensation is what is causing the feeling.

 

[Cr™]

yeah, of course for the first time it will probably feel like something youve never felt before. shouldnt feel bad tho, just a “different” feeling. also if your maxilla was imbalanced before you started, maybe that compensation is what is causing the feeling.

In the mirror it looks balances but really narrow and when I try to mew my tongue can't fully fight on the right side and drops down a bit

 

[xnj]

In the mirror it looks balances but really narrow and when I try to mew my tongue can't fully fight on the right side and drops down a bit

ah yeah, so this should help then.

 

[Cr™]

ah yeah, so this should help then.

I noticed on the second day my fingers could fit much more so I have high hopes for this you better not disappoint boyo

 

[xnj]

I noticed on the second day my fingers could fit much more so I have high hopes for this you better not disappoint boyo

good. you better ascend boyo

 

[slavski]

A lot of you fuckers have been asking me about how I expanded my maxilla by miles in around 2 months, here's the full in-depth explanation on all methods I have used.

Benefits of well-developed maxillae:

Maxilla affects more parts of your skull than you think; your undereye support is greatly affected by your maxillary development, as your infraorbital position depends greatly on the position of your maxilla, that's why you can see a lot of people with flat maxillae having shit undereye support (you can call it lower eyelid exposure or whatever); forward growth is also affected by it a bit due to your lower teeth's alignment with your upper teeth, therefore the more forward it is, the more space your mandible would have to grow forward. I got quite a lot of forward growth myself, but I also firmly believe that other things I did for my lower third contributed to that (see my softmaxxing post for what else I did).

The only method I have used for maxillary expansion is thumb pulling. Lots of you will say it's cope, but it worked for me, as well as loads of other people, so I am a big thumb pulling advocate, and will show you how to do it properly.

Just so you keep the intrigue, here are the before/after pictures:

Spoiler: Comparison

Before:
View attachment 3044608

After:
View attachment 3044609

(both pics taken under exact same angle, unstretched, unfrauded, even if you say that the pic is slightly rotated, or even if someone's head is slightly tilted, but still facing the camera at a perfect 90 degrees angle, the size of the maxillary triangle is what matters in the end, that's what's being compared)

The basics of Thumb Pulling:

Thumb pulling is used to.... yapyapyapyap- just stick your thumbs in your mouth and ascend.

Your upper palate is divided into two: the soft and the hard palates. You can differentiate between them pretty easily: the hard palate is at the front and has a riffled texture to it, whereas the soft palate is further back, starts around your GPF (greater palatine foramen, the part further back where your teeth come closer to each other from both sides)

View attachment 3044599

This is more important than you think, as SO many of you got VERY confused while I was trying to explain it without a diagram.

The positioning of thumbs:

I placed both of my thumbs just beyond the BORDER between the hard & the soft palates. My thumbs are not fully fitting in between the GPFs, so I rotate them slightly, so they barely fit and are "compressed" against each other in between the GPFs, so that they are also more secure in there.

(Rough) Demonstration:


View attachment 3044619

The positioning of arms, fingers & rest of the body:

Body:
I laid down on the bed, with my head on a pillow;

Rest of fingers:
I put my index fingers around my browridge, the rest are just wherever

(VERY rough) Demonstration LMAO:

View attachment 3044630

Arms:
While thumbs were already in my mouth and I'm already laying down, I press both of my elbows to my chest.

The process:

I pulled straight forward (perpendicular to my face) with my thumbs, while simultaneously pressing into my brows with my index fingers. I engaged my triceps to increase the pull force. The fact that my thumbs were facing slightly outwards, as demonstrated in the diagram, made the resultant force a little bit more sideways on each side respectively, so the palate expanded both forward and outward.

Demonstration of resultant force/desired direction of pull on my good friend Alien:
View attachment 3044648

Intensity/duration/schedule:

I pulled as hard as I could for as long as I could for one continuous rep, around 20-30 seconds, once a day (nightly).


Enjoy your ascension fellas, and go slay stacies. Much love to yall (no homo)

bump

 

[the_nextDavidLaid]

did your midface ratio change ?

love how you believe this but dont believe in mewing

 

[mtcut3plush]

love how you believe this but dont believe in mewing

are you fucking retarded, what has my question to do with believing in anything

 

[diamondbill]

love how you believe this but dont believe in mewing

both don't work

 

[Marsiere214]

jI work as a Surgical Tech and soon to be a Surgical First Assist Certified and im doing my rotations and im doing oms cases and the amount of retarded shit i see on this forum is giga cagefuel.

 

[the_nextDavidLaid]

are you fucking retarded, what has my question to do with believing in anything

just say you believe in thumbpulling but not in tongue posture just say it

 

[Cr™]

Yo bro it's me again is it normal that when thumbpulling to feel a lil bit of pressure in teeth towards the end like not pushing them but pressure in the gums? I also felt like my palate stretched while pulling it today

 

[xnj]

jI work as a Surgical Tech and soon to be a Surgical First Assist Certified and im doing my rotations and im doing oms cases and the amount of retarded shit i see on this forum is giga cagefuel.

thats crazy bro, i mustve had surgery i guess

 

[xnj]

Yo bro it's me again is it normal that when thumbpulling to feel a lil bit of pressure in teeth towards the end like not pushing them but pressure in the gums? I also felt like my palate stretched while pulling it today

yes, it us normal

 

[benchodltn]

A lot of you fuckers have been asking me about how I expanded my maxilla by miles in around 2 months, here's the full in-depth explanation on all methods I have used.

Benefits of well-developed maxillae:

Maxilla affects more parts of your skull than you think; your undereye support is greatly affected by your maxillary development, as your infraorbital position depends greatly on the position of your maxilla, that's why you can see a lot of people with flat maxillae having shit undereye support (you can call it lower eyelid exposure or whatever); forward growth is also affected by it a bit due to your lower teeth's alignment with your upper teeth, therefore the more forward it is, the more space your mandible would have to grow forward. I got quite a lot of forward growth myself, but I also firmly believe that other things I did for my lower third contributed to that (see my softmaxxing post for what else I did).

The only method I have used for maxillary expansion is thumb pulling. Lots of you will say it's cope, but it worked for me, as well as loads of other people, so I am a big thumb pulling advocate, and will show you how to do it properly.

Just so you keep the intrigue, here are the before/after pictures:

Spoiler: Comparison

Before:
View attachment 3044608

After:
View attachment 3044609

(both pics taken under exact same angle, unstretched, unfrauded, even if you say that the pic is slightly rotated, or even if someone's head is slightly tilted, but still facing the camera at a perfect 90 degrees angle, the size of the maxillary triangle is what matters in the end, that's what's being compared)

The basics of Thumb Pulling:

Thumb pulling is used to.... yapyapyapyap- just stick your thumbs in your mouth and ascend.

Your upper palate is divided into two: the soft and the hard palates. You can differentiate between them pretty easily: the hard palate is at the front and has a riffled texture to it, whereas the soft palate is further back, starts around your GPF (greater palatine foramen, the part further back where your teeth come closer to each other from both sides)

View attachment 3044599

This is more important than you think, as SO many of you got VERY confused while I was trying to explain it without a diagram.

The positioning of thumbs:

I placed both of my thumbs just beyond the BORDER between the hard & the soft palates. My thumbs are not fully fitting in between the GPFs, so I rotate them slightly, so they barely fit and are "compressed" against each other in between the GPFs, so that they are also more secure in there.

(Rough) Demonstration:


View attachment 3044619

The positioning of arms, fingers & rest of the body:

Body:
I laid down on the bed, with my head on a pillow;

Rest of fingers:
I put my index fingers around my browridge, the rest are just wherever

(VERY rough) Demonstration LMAO:

View attachment 3044630

Arms:
While thumbs were already in my mouth and I'm already laying down, I press both of my elbows to my chest.

The process:

I pulled straight forward (perpendicular to my face) with my thumbs, while simultaneously pressing into my brows with my index fingers. I engaged my triceps to increase the pull force. The fact that my thumbs were facing slightly outwards, as demonstrated in the diagram, made the resultant force a little bit more sideways on each side respectively, so the palate expanded both forward and outward.

Demonstration of resultant force/desired direction of pull on my good friend Alien:
View attachment 3044648

Intensity/duration/schedule:

I pulled as hard as I could for as long as I could for one continuous rep, around 20-30 seconds, once a day (nightly).


Enjoy your ascension fellas, and go slay stacies. Much love to yall (no homo)

W thread + 1

 

[mtcut3plush]

just say you believe in thumbpulling but not in tongue posture just say it

never talk to me again you fucking retarded piece of shit

 

[alovelettertoyou]

wouldn't this be useless if you had braces and rubber bands? Bands and braces would revert all maxilla growth. Should I wait once i get my braces done to do this?

 

[the_nextDavidLaid]

never talk to me again you fucking retarded piece of shit

great hoid thread btw but youre the retard here imagine believing in thumbpulling but not tongue posture

 

[NZb6Air]

Can i use my toes after growth hormon ?

 

[mtcut3plush]

great hoid thread btw but youre the retard here imagine believing in thumbpulling but not tongue posture

i never mentionned anything about believing, but to answer your question i dont believe in both

 

[unfortunatehobbies]

Good thread. Does this cause TMJ pain?

 

[Marsiere214]

thats crazy bro, i mustve had surgery i guess

no nigga ur "results" are bullshit

 

[cc_7373]

Tounge has no wayyy near enough strength to do anything so yea i believe this more

just say you believe in thumbpulling but not in tongue posture just say i

 

[the_nextDavidLaid]

Tounge has no wayyy near enough strength to do anything so yea i believe this more

jflllll tongue posture is just that, posture, its not supposed to move bone tbqh. what moves bone is the oriantation of the head in space and the pulling movements that the facial muscles can generate when they are put under large amounts of stress.

 

[cc_7373]

jflllll tongue posture is just that posture its not supposed to move bone tbqh what moves bone is the oriantation of the head in space and the pulling movements that the facial muscles can generate when they are put under large amounts of stress

Only chewing works the rest are cope, maybe thumbpulling and towel pulling if done right, i have had my maxilla be sore after towel pulling just once

 

[the_nextDavidLaid]

Only chewing works the rest are cope, maybe thumbpulling and towel pulling if done right, i have had my maxilla be sore after towel pulling just once

lmaooooo then please keep your hyoid low and lets see how many cheeks you will smash

 

[cc_7373]

lmaooooo then please keep your hyoid low and lets see how many cheeks you will smash

Theres exercises for that also im just saying wont change shit except raise the hyoid bone no changes on maxilla

 

[the_nextDavidLaid]

Theres exercises for that also im just saying wont change shit except raise the hyoid bone no changes on maxilla

lets clear some things first since my opinion on tongue posture is very unique as in when you breathe through your nose your tongue goes up and then down.
tHATS what you should do, you should never mew 24/7 tbh the only time that should be done is when youre swallowing. Most people think itll move their maxilla but it more or less stabilizes it and widens the palate.

For ''forward growth'' (its really ''downward growth'') you should move your head in space based on gravity and force the facial muscles to pull the face as i specified in my previous reply

 

[cc_7373]

lets clear some things first since my opinion on tongue posture is very unique as in when you breathe through your nose your tongue goes up and then down.
tHATS what you should do, you should never mew 24/7 tbh the only time that should be done is when youre swallowing. Most people think itll move their maxilla but it more or less stabilizes it and widens the palate.

For ''forward growth'' (its really ''downward growth'') you should move your head in space based on gravity and force the facial muscles to pull the face as i specified in my previous reply

Yea that's why i got a friend with a fucking rugged boney ogre, prominent asf cheek bones, wayy too big brow ridges, nice forward growth, and he has shit head posture and doesn't mew. Guess what tho he eats lots of meat which develops the mandible and applies resistance on the maxilla, plus fucking high testosterone(hes huge asf and doesnt even work out that much and does lots of cardio

 

[cc_7373]

lets clear some things first since my opinion on tongue posture is very unique as in when you breathe through your nose your tongue goes up and then down.
tHATS what you should do, you should never mew 24/7 tbh the only time that should be done is when youre swallowing. Most people think itll move their maxilla but it more or less stabilizes it and widens the palate.

For ''forward growth'' (its really ''downward growth'') you should move your head in space based on gravity and force the facial muscles to pull the face as i specified in my previous reply

I also mew because it raises my hyoid bone, and takes no effort just a swallow but doesnt really do much

 

[the_nextDavidLaid]

Yea that's why i got a friend with a fucking rugged boney ogre, prominent asf cheek bones, wayy too big brow ridges, nice forward growth, and he has shit head posture and doesn't mew. Guess what tho he eats lots of meat which develops the mandible and applies resistance on the maxilla, plus fucking high testosterone(hes huge asf and doesnt even work out that much and does lots of cardio

let me guess hes a rugby player or football player?

I also mew because it raises my hyoid bone, and takes no effort just a swallow but doesnt really do much

just breathing through nose is enough the ''mewing'' is just swallowing

 

[xnj]

no nigga ur "results" are bullshit

point out the “bullshit” on the pics incel

 

[Mrinfinityx]

A lot of you fuckers have been asking me about how I expanded my maxilla by miles in around 2 months, here's the full in-depth explanation on all methods I have used.

Benefits of well-developed maxillae:

Maxilla affects more parts of your skull than you think; your undereye support is greatly affected by your maxillary development, as your infraorbital position depends greatly on the position of your maxilla, that's why you can see a lot of people with flat maxillae having shit undereye support (you can call it lower eyelid exposure or whatever); forward growth is also affected by it a bit due to your lower teeth's alignment with your upper teeth, therefore the more forward it is, the more space your mandible would have to grow forward. I got quite a lot of forward growth myself, but I also firmly believe that other things I did for my lower third contributed to that (see my softmaxxing post for what else I did).

The only method I have used for maxillary expansion is thumb pulling. Lots of you will say it's cope, but it worked for me, as well as loads of other people, so I am a big thumb pulling advocate, and will show you how to do it properly.

Just so you keep the intrigue, here are the before/after pictures:

Spoiler: Comparison

Before:
View attachment 3044608

After:
View attachment 3044609

(both pics taken under exact same angle, unstretched, unfrauded, even if you say that the pic is slightly rotated, or even if someone's head is slightly tilted, but still facing the camera at a perfect 90 degrees angle, the size of the maxillary triangle is what matters in the end, that's what's being compared)

The basics of Thumb Pulling:

Thumb pulling is used to.... yapyapyapyap- just stick your thumbs in your mouth and ascend.

Your upper palate is divided into two: the soft and the hard palates. You can differentiate between them pretty easily: the hard palate is at the front and has a riffled texture to it, whereas the soft palate is further back, starts around your GPF (greater palatine foramen, the part further back where your teeth come closer to each other from both sides)

View attachment 3044599

This is more important than you think, as SO many of you got VERY confused while I was trying to explain it without a diagram.

The positioning of thumbs:

I placed both of my thumbs just beyond the BORDER between the hard & the soft palates. My thumbs are not fully fitting in between the GPFs, so I rotate them slightly, so they barely fit and are "compressed" against each other in between the GPFs, so that they are also more secure in there.

(Rough) Demonstration:


View attachment 3044619

The positioning of arms, fingers & rest of the body:

Body:
I laid down on the bed, with my head on a pillow;

Rest of fingers:
I put my index fingers around my browridge, the rest are just wherever

(VERY rough) Demonstration LMAO:

View attachment 3044630

Arms:
While thumbs were already in my mouth and I'm already laying down, I press both of my elbows to my chest.

The process:

I pulled straight forward (perpendicular to my face) with my thumbs, while simultaneously pressing into my brows with my index fingers. I engaged my triceps to increase the pull force. The fact that my thumbs were facing slightly outwards, as demonstrated in the diagram, made the resultant force a little bit more sideways on each side respectively, so the palate expanded both forward and outward.

Demonstration of resultant force/desired direction of pull on my good friend Alien:
View attachment 3044648

Intensity/duration/schedule:

I pulled as hard as I could for as long as I could for one continuous rep, around 20-30 seconds, once a day (nightly).


Enjoy your ascension fellas, and go slay stacies. Much love to yall (no homo)

All I see is a coping cuck wanting to do big show in porn taking the whole nigger animal

 

[xnj]

All I see is a coping cuck wanting to do big show in porn taking the whole nigger animal

View attachment 3087790

nobody asked incel

 

[Mrinfinityx]

love how you believe this but dont believe in mewing

No comment on this clown freak show thread

 

[Mrinfinityx]

jI work as a Surgical Tech and soon to be a Surgical First Assist Certified and im doing my rotations and im doing oms cases and the amount of retarded shit i see on this forum is giga cagefuel.

TBH, Tiktok fags are an abomination to human kind

 

[Marsiere214]

point out the “bullshit” on the pics incel

jfl at this grey thinking calling someone an incel on an incel forum is an insult
u have zero growth

 

[xnj]

jfl at this grey thinking calling someone an incel on an incel forum is an insult
u have zero growth

youre a delusional copist lol

 

[Marsiere214]

TBH, Tiktok fags are an abomination to human kind

View attachment 3087799

Im about to go to PA school and u gotta love how some tiktok teen knows way more than someone whos working in medicine and someone who talks and works with doctors on the daily.

 

[Marsiere214]

youre a delusional copist lol

u can keep drawing triangles and squint as much as u want u turbo subhuman but no amount of coping will change the fact that u will forever stay broke and subhuman.

 

[xnj]

u can keep drawing triangles and squint as much as u want u turbo subhuman but no amount of coping will change the fact that u will forever stay broke and subhuman.

turbo cope, keep LDARing faggot

 

[antony 726]

A lot of you fuckers have been asking me about how I expanded my maxilla by miles in around 2 months, here's the full in-depth explanation on all methods I have used.

Benefits of well-developed maxillae:

Maxilla affects more parts of your skull than you think; your undereye support is greatly affected by your maxillary development, as your infraorbital position depends greatly on the position of your maxilla, that's why you can see a lot of people with flat maxillae having shit undereye support (you can call it lower eyelid exposure or whatever); forward growth is also affected by it a bit due to your lower teeth's alignment with your upper teeth, therefore the more forward it is, the more space your mandible would have to grow forward. I got quite a lot of forward growth myself, but I also firmly believe that other things I did for my lower third contributed to that (see my softmaxxing post for what else I did).

The only method I have used for maxillary expansion is thumb pulling. Lots of you will say it's cope, but it worked for me, as well as loads of other people, so I am a big thumb pulling advocate, and will show you how to do it properly.

Just so you keep the intrigue, here are the before/after pictures:

Spoiler: Comparison

Before:
View attachment 3044608

After:
View attachment 3044609

(both pics taken under exact same angle, unstretched, unfrauded, even if you say that the pic is slightly rotated, or even if someone's head is slightly tilted, but still facing the camera at a perfect 90 degrees angle, the size of the maxillary triangle is what matters in the end, that's what's being compared)

The basics of Thumb Pulling:

Thumb pulling is used to.... yapyapyapyap- just stick your thumbs in your mouth and ascend.

Your upper palate is divided into two: the soft and the hard palates. You can differentiate between them pretty easily: the hard palate is at the front and has a riffled texture to it, whereas the soft palate is further back, starts around your GPF (greater palatine foramen, the part further back where your teeth come closer to each other from both sides)

View attachment 3044599

This is more important than you think, as SO many of you got VERY confused while I was trying to explain it without a diagram.

The positioning of thumbs:

I placed both of my thumbs just beyond the BORDER between the hard & the soft palates. My thumbs are not fully fitting in between the GPFs, so I rotate them slightly, so they barely fit and are "compressed" against each other in between the GPFs, so that they are also more secure in there.

(Rough) Demonstration:


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The positioning of arms, fingers & rest of the body:

Body:
I laid down on the bed, with my head on a pillow;

Rest of fingers:
I put my index fingers around my browridge, the rest are just wherever

(VERY rough) Demonstration LMAO:

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Arms:
While thumbs were already in my mouth and I'm already laying down, I press both of my elbows to my chest.

The process:

I pulled straight forward (perpendicular to my face) with my thumbs, while simultaneously pressing into my brows with my index fingers. I engaged my triceps to increase the pull force. The fact that my thumbs were facing slightly outwards, as demonstrated in the diagram, made the resultant force a little bit more sideways on each side respectively, so the palate expanded both forward and outward.

Demonstration of resultant force/desired direction of pull on my good friend Alien:
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Intensity/duration/schedule:

I pulled as hard as I could for as long as I could for one continuous rep, around 20-30 seconds, once a day (nightly).


Enjoy your ascension fellas, and go slay stacies. Much love to yall (no homo)

Nice thanks bro
Does this work for the Lower jaw?

 

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Nice thanks bro
Does this work for the Lower jaw?

nah, only for maxilla. if you pull your mandible like that, you can dislocate it