My Maxillary Expansion via Softmaxxing Guide (depthcels GTFIH)

[xnj]

i'm trying to figure out the most optimal and effective way, so doing it more often seems like a better version than to just go all out before sleep

well once a day did enough for me anyways, idk about others. obviously there are different factors such as malleability of bones depending on even more factors that come into play. but at the end of the day its what works best for you so check it out and see for yourself. also keep in mind that this is different from lateral/plier pulling so its hard to compare this to mse.
holy shit i was able to write all of this while drunk its so over

 

[Idonwannalivthatway]

well once a day did enough for me anyways, idk about others. obviously there are different factors such as malleability of bones depending on even more factors that come into play. but at the end of the day its what works best for you so check it out and see for yourself. also keep in mind that this is different from lateral/plier pulling so its hard to compare this to mse.
holy shit i was able to write all of this while drunk its so over

did you get an upswing? I don't wanna get high palate during upward thumbpulling (soft clenching on mouthguard with molars is better for that I believe). Will try lateral thumbpulling though for several months 10 min a day and report back

 

[xnj]

did you get an upswing? I don't wanna get high palate during upward thumbpulling (soft clenching on mouthguard with molars is better for that I believe). Will try lateral thumbpulling though for several months 10 min a day and report back

plier pulling works best for that i believe
also wym by upswing

 

[Idonwannalivthatway]

plier pulling works best for that i believe
also wym by upswing

Maxilia upswing. I need better undereye support. Also plier pulling sounds dangerous af

 

[xnj]

Maxilia upswing. I need better undereye support. Also plier pulling sounds dangerous af

you have to “secure” the pliers before using them ofc, with tape and/or tissue paper. undereye does improve from an improved maxilla but only so much. it improved mine so should improve yours.

 

[ubermenschlord]

well once a day did enough for me anyways, idk about others. obviously there are different factors such as malleability of bones depending on even more factors that come into play. but at the end of the day its what works best for you so check it out and see for yourself. also keep in mind that this is different from lateral/plier pulling so its hard to compare this to mse.
holy shit i was able to write all of this while drunk its so over

i'm still young and i have late puberty (i just turned 17 btw), so the bones are pretty much flexible, just trying not to fuck up the timings and fix my imperfections, though i honestly think 30 seconds a day isn't enough, and the funny thing is, there ain't much info on thumbpulling and it's varieties, their effects etc.
it all comes down to personal experience. i don't know what to try, so i'm going to do your method for a month, we'll see how it goes

 

[xentzlm.]

lifefuel
will update after 2-3 months

How did it go

 

[jefty]

A lot of you fuckers have been asking me about how I expanded my maxilla by miles in around 2 months, here's the full in-depth explanation on all methods I have used.

Benefits of well-developed maxillae:

Maxilla affects more parts of your skull than you think; your undereye support is greatly affected by your maxillary development, as your infraorbital position depends greatly on the position of your maxilla, that's why you can see a lot of people with flat maxillae having shit undereye support (you can call it lower eyelid exposure or whatever); forward growth is also affected by it a bit due to your lower teeth's alignment with your upper teeth, therefore the more forward it is, the more space your mandible would have to grow forward. I got quite a lot of forward growth myself, but I also firmly believe that other things I did for my lower third contributed to that (see my softmaxxing post for what else I did).

The only method I have used for maxillary expansion is thumb pulling. Lots of you will say it's cope, but it worked for me, as well as loads of other people, so I am a big thumb pulling advocate, and will show you how to do it properly.

Just so you keep the intrigue, here are the before/after pictures:

Spoiler: Comparison

Before:
View attachment 3044608

After:
View attachment 3044609

(both pics taken under exact same angle, unstretched, unfrauded, even if you say that the pic is slightly rotated, or even if someone's head is slightly tilted, but still facing the camera at a perfect 90 degrees angle, the size of the maxillary triangle is what matters in the end, that's what's being compared)

The basics of Thumb Pulling:

Thumb pulling is used to.... yapyapyapyap- just stick your thumbs in your mouth and ascend.

Your upper palate is divided into two: the soft and the hard palates. You can differentiate between them pretty easily: the hard palate is at the front and has a riffled texture to it, whereas the soft palate is further back, starts around your GPF (greater palatine foramen, the part further back where your teeth come closer to each other from both sides)

View attachment 3044599

This is more important than you think, as SO many of you got VERY confused while I was trying to explain it without a diagram.

The positioning of thumbs:

I placed both of my thumbs just beyond the BORDER between the hard & the soft palates. My thumbs are not fully fitting in between the GPFs, so I rotate them slightly, so they barely fit and are "compressed" against each other in between the GPFs, so that they are also more secure in there.

(Rough) Demonstration:


View attachment 3044619

The positioning of arms, fingers & rest of the body:

Body:
I laid down on the bed, with my head on a pillow;

Rest of fingers:
I put my index fingers around my browridge, the rest are just wherever

(VERY rough) Demonstration LMAO:

View attachment 3044630

Arms:
While thumbs were already in my mouth and I'm already laying down, I press both of my elbows to my chest.

The process:

I pulled straight forward (perpendicular to my face) with my thumbs, while simultaneously pressing into my brows with my index fingers. I engaged my triceps to increase the pull force. The fact that my thumbs were facing slightly outwards, as demonstrated in the diagram, made the resultant force a little bit more sideways on each side respectively, so the palate expanded both forward and outward.

Demonstration of resultant force/desired direction of pull on my good friend Alien:
View attachment 3044648

Intensity/duration/schedule:

I pulled as hard as I could for as long as I could for one continuous rep, around 20-30 seconds, once a day (nightly).


Enjoy your ascension fellas, and go slay stacies. Much love to yall (no homo)

u know a pull to get wider zygos?

 

[jefty]

How did it go

wsp dude u new in the forum?

 

[xnj]

u know a pull to get wider zygos?

ik pluer pulling but thats about it. curryfucker orthos keep denying me mse so i think imma crash out and do that instead. the only issue is how to retain the results, as after expanders, as with any ortho appliances, you get retainers. so i would need to figure that out if i wanna proportionally widen my face.

 

[jefty]

ik pluer pulling but thats about it. curryfucker orthos keep denying me mse so i think imma crash out and do that instead. the only issue is how to retain the results, as after expanders, as with any ortho appliances, you get retainers. so i would need to figure that out if i wanna proportionally widen my face.

lateral pulling i have read that expand zygos

 

[xnj]

lateral pulling i have read that expand zygos

yeah but i wanna do pliers, as everyone who did it and spoken to me notices great visual and functional improvements. some guy on here is making his own fme, im very curious about that (unless its schizolarp ofc)

 

[Idonwannalivthatway]

yeah but i wanna do pliers, as everyone who did it and spoken to me notices great visual and functional improvements. some guy on here is making his own fme, im very curious about that (unless its schizolarp ofc)

do you think I would benefit of palate expansion at 43 mm IMW (aiming for 50 mm)

 

[xnj]

do you think I would benefit of palate expansion at 43 mm IMW (aiming for 50 mm)

yes

 

[xnj]

do you think I would benefit of palate expansion at 43 mm IMW (aiming for 50 mm)

im aiming for 50-52, and am at like 38 rn (from invisalign measurement), so idk how that would go.

 

[Idonwannalivthatway]

im aiming for 50-52, and am at like 38 rn (from invisalign measurement, so idk how that would go.

I want to try invisalign to. MSE seems risky for asymetries

 

[xnj]

I want to try invisalign to. MSE seems risky for asymetries

my arches are collapsed, and right side is more so than the left one. after i finish invis im expanding my palate, even if that means another invis afterwards, idgaf. a wider palate (more fwhr, tfwhr, esr and pfl) may get me to cl so i am not going to miss out on this shit.

 

[Idonwannalivthatway]

my arches are collapsed, and right side is more so than the left one. after i finish invis im expanding my palate, even if that means another invis afterwards, idgaf. a wider palate (more fwhr, tfwhr, esr and pfl) may get me to cl so i am not going to miss out on this shit.

My esr is too high .48 I just want a bit more face width. I will still do it cause wide palate is everything

 

[xnj]

My esr is too high .48 I just want a bit more face width. I will still do it cause wide palate is everything

wider palate usually means higher ipd. just bonesmash zygos or get filler. or, if you wanna play a longer, but smarter game, do expand palate, as your esr will probably stay the same, and THEN widen zygos on the outside.

 

[xnj]

btw, my palate now:

and my expected palate at the end of invis:

 

[100gubbe]

Yo bro for clarification, you said do this only once at night for 30 sec and thats it?

 

[xnj]

Yo bro for clarification, you said do this only once at night for 30 sec and thats it?

that’s what i did yeah

 

[100gubbe]

that’s what i did yeah

tysm for the quick reply and i'll definitely try this, cheers man

 

[xentzlm.]

wsp dude u new in the forum?

Yeah I'm new

 

[MoggingProspect]

How did it go

nvm i quit after just a week , my thumbs got sore asf

 

[_Oogway_]

A lot of you fuckers have been asking me about how I expanded my maxilla by miles in around 2 months, here's the full in-depth explanation on all methods I have used.

Benefits of well-developed maxillae:

Maxilla affects more parts of your skull than you think; your undereye support is greatly affected by your maxillary development, as your infraorbital position depends greatly on the position of your maxilla, that's why you can see a lot of people with flat maxillae having shit undereye support (you can call it lower eyelid exposure or whatever); forward growth is also affected by it a bit due to your lower teeth's alignment with your upper teeth, therefore the more forward it is, the more space your mandible would have to grow forward. I got quite a lot of forward growth myself, but I also firmly believe that other things I did for my lower third contributed to that (see my softmaxxing post for what else I did).

The only method I have used for maxillary expansion is thumb pulling. Lots of you will say it's cope, but it worked for me, as well as loads of other people, so I am a big thumb pulling advocate, and will show you how to do it properly.

Just so you keep the intrigue, here are the before/after pictures:

Spoiler: Comparison

Before:
View attachment 3044608

After:
View attachment 3044609

(both pics taken under exact same angle, unstretched, unfrauded, even if you say that the pic is slightly rotated, or even if someone's head is slightly tilted, but still facing the camera at a perfect 90 degrees angle, the size of the maxillary triangle is what matters in the end, that's what's being compared)

The basics of Thumb Pulling:

Thumb pulling is used to.... yapyapyapyap- just stick your thumbs in your mouth and ascend.

Your upper palate is divided into two: the soft and the hard palates. You can differentiate between them pretty easily: the hard palate is at the front and has a riffled texture to it, whereas the soft palate is further back, starts around your GPF (greater palatine foramen, the part further back where your teeth come closer to each other from both sides)

View attachment 3044599

This is more important than you think, as SO many of you got VERY confused while I was trying to explain it without a diagram.

The positioning of thumbs:

I placed both of my thumbs just beyond the BORDER between the hard & the soft palates. My thumbs are not fully fitting in between the GPFs, so I rotate them slightly, so they barely fit and are "compressed" against each other in between the GPFs, so that they are also more secure in there.

(Rough) Demonstration:


View attachment 3044619

The positioning of arms, fingers & rest of the body:

Body:
I laid down on the bed, with my head on a pillow;

Rest of fingers:
I put my index fingers around my browridge, the rest are just wherever

(VERY rough) Demonstration LMAO:

View attachment 3044630

Arms:
While thumbs were already in my mouth and I'm already laying down, I press both of my elbows to my chest.

The process:

I pulled straight forward (perpendicular to my face) with my thumbs, while simultaneously pressing into my brows with my index fingers. I engaged my triceps to increase the pull force. The fact that my thumbs were facing slightly outwards, as demonstrated in the diagram, made the resultant force a little bit more sideways on each side respectively, so the palate expanded both forward and outward.

Demonstration of resultant force/desired direction of pull on my good friend Alien:
View attachment 3044648

Intensity/duration/schedule:

I pulled as hard as I could for as long as I could for one continuous rep, around 20-30 seconds, once a day (nightly).


Enjoy your ascension fellas, and go slay stacies. Much love to yall (no homo)

Suggest me , what do for short or not fully developed maxilla (vertically). It makes nose small, can't make it more compact so pls help one out

 

[xnj]

Suggest me , what do for short or not fully developed maxilla (vertically). It makes nose small, can't make it more compact so pls help one out

cant do much other than a lefort downgraft

 

[100gubbe]

Yo i just have a quick question regarding positioning , is it mandatory to lie down or can you do it against a wall too with good posture?

 

[xnj]

Yo i just have a quick question regarding positioning , is it mandatory to lie down or can you do it against a wall too with good posture?

idk tbh, its more convenient laying down, but u can try

 

[aliiii280]

A lot of you fuckers have been asking me about how I expanded my maxilla by miles in around 2 months, here's the full in-depth explanation on all methods I have used.

Benefits of well-developed maxillae:

Maxilla affects more parts of your skull than you think; your undereye support is greatly affected by your maxillary development, as your infraorbital position depends greatly on the position of your maxilla, that's why you can see a lot of people with flat maxillae having shit undereye support (you can call it lower eyelid exposure or whatever); forward growth is also affected by it a bit due to your lower teeth's alignment with your upper teeth, therefore the more forward it is, the more space your mandible would have to grow forward. I got quite a lot of forward growth myself, but I also firmly believe that other things I did for my lower third contributed to that (see my softmaxxing post for what else I did).

The only method I have used for maxillary expansion is thumb pulling. Lots of you will say it's cope, but it worked for me, as well as loads of other people, so I am a big thumb pulling advocate, and will show you how to do it properly.

Just so you keep the intrigue, here are the before/after pictures:

Spoiler: Comparison

Before:
View attachment 3044608

After:
View attachment 3044609

(both pics taken under exact same angle, unstretched, unfrauded, even if you say that the pic is slightly rotated, or even if someone's head is slightly tilted, but still facing the camera at a perfect 90 degrees angle, the size of the maxillary triangle is what matters in the end, that's what's being compared)

The basics of Thumb Pulling:

Thumb pulling is used to.... yapyapyapyap- just stick your thumbs in your mouth and ascend.

Your upper palate is divided into two: the soft and the hard palates. You can differentiate between them pretty easily: the hard palate is at the front and has a riffled texture to it, whereas the soft palate is further back, starts around your GPF (greater palatine foramen, the part further back where your teeth come closer to each other from both sides)

View attachment 3044599

This is more important than you think, as SO many of you got VERY confused while I was trying to explain it without a diagram.

The positioning of thumbs:

I placed both of my thumbs just beyond the BORDER between the hard & the soft palates. My thumbs are not fully fitting in between the GPFs, so I rotate them slightly, so they barely fit and are "compressed" against each other in between the GPFs, so that they are also more secure in there.

(Rough) Demonstration:


View attachment 3044619

The positioning of arms, fingers & rest of the body:

Body:
I laid down on the bed, with my head on a pillow;

Rest of fingers:
I put my index fingers around my browridge, the rest are just wherever

(VERY rough) Demonstration LMAO:

View attachment 3044630

Arms:
While thumbs were already in my mouth and I'm already laying down, I press both of my elbows to my chest.

The process:

I pulled straight forward (perpendicular to my face) with my thumbs, while simultaneously pressing into my brows with my index fingers. I engaged my triceps to increase the pull force. The fact that my thumbs were facing slightly outwards, as demonstrated in the diagram, made the resultant force a little bit more sideways on each side respectively, so the palate expanded both forward and outward.

Demonstration of resultant force/desired direction of pull on my good friend Alien:
View attachment 3044648

Intensity/duration/schedule:

I pulled as hard as I could for as long as I could for one continuous rep, around 20-30 seconds, once a day (nightly).


Enjoy your ascension fellas, and go slay stacies. Much love to yall (no homo)

I just tried and found out my pallate is soooo narrow only the finger tips of my thumbs fit if i get them in and the rest just lays on my dental arch is this normal or do i get pallate expander asap

 

[xnj]

I just tried and found out my pallate is soooo narrow only the finger tips of my thumbs fit if i get them in and the rest just lays on my dental arch is this normal or do i get pallate expander asap

get expander, narrow palates are never good

 

[mightbecooked123]

get expander, narrow palates are never good

He should go to an ortho before doing anything expanders are only good if your palate actually impedes breathing function and eating

 

[xnj]

He should go to an ortho before doing anything expanders are only good if your palate actually impedes breathing function and eating

ofc he should go to an ortho, idk about the last part tho

 

[aliiii280]

He should go to an ortho before doing anything expanders are only good if your palate actually impedes breathing function and eating

i went once and she told me i dont need expanders "tf" like to fix my crowding, she said she will just strip my teeth to make them fit

she told me i shouldnt get expander eventho i ltierally have narrow dental arches and pallates which she agreed with
could invisilign be enough? thats what she wanted to do

 

[mightbecooked123]

ofc he should go to an ortho, idk about the last part tho

No expanders are complete dogshit from an aesthetics perspective they always expand assymetrically and results are near impossible to predict

 

[xnj]

i went once and she told me i dont need expanders "tf" like to fix my crowding, she said she will just strip my teeth to make them fit

she told me i shouldnt get expander eventho i ltierally have narrow dental arches and pallates which she agreed with
could invisilign be enough? thats what she wanted to do

bro ngl i went to multiple orthos and they said the exact same thing. they’re fucking braindead, “muh ideal palate width depends on bone structure and braces/invis will be enough to widen the arch” as if expanders were LITERALLY not the things that were specifically made to change said bone structure, whereas braces just widen arches about the gingiva part (whatever its called) and one was so braindead he wanted to bring my molars in just to make the palate look wider when the arches came out

 

[aliiii280]

No expanders are complete dogshit from an aesthetics perspective they always expand assymetrically and results are near impossible to predict

View attachment 3420275View attachment 3420282

she told me i cant really expand my upper pallate too mcuh cuz it would make it not fit or something? like fit on my lower pallate or some shit

 

[xnj]

No expanders are complete dogshit from an aesthetics perspective they always expand assymetrically and results are near impossible to predict

View attachment 3420275View attachment 3420282

first guy has overdone it
second guy ive seen the vid with, he most likely had other underlying issues that lead to his asymmetry. i know TONS of people that got this shit and ascended

 

[mightbecooked123]

first guy has overdone it
second guy ive seen the vid with, he most likely had other underlying issues that lead to his asymmetry. i know TONS of people that got this shit and ascended

@RealSurgerymax used it on dozens of his cases and decided to not use MSE after orthogantic surgery because the results were too unpredictable and i think that says it all really

 

[xnj]

@RealSurgerymax used it on dozens of his cases and decided to not use MSE after orthogantic surgery because the results were too unpredictable and i think that says it all really

ofc too unpredictable relative to surgery, hence why we have stuff like segmental osteotomy and the dome shit

 

[Doragon]

Will this fuck up my jaw if I have braces to cure my overbite?

 

[xnj]

Will this fuck up my jaw if I have braces to cure my overbite?

yes, do not do this with braces

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

A lot of you fuckers have been asking me about how I expanded my maxilla by miles in around 2 months, here's the full in-depth explanation on all methods I have used.

Benefits of well-developed maxillae:

Maxilla affects more parts of your skull than you think; your undereye support is greatly affected by your maxillary development, as your infraorbital position depends greatly on the position of your maxilla, that's why you can see a lot of people with flat maxillae having shit undereye support (you can call it lower eyelid exposure or whatever); forward growth is also affected by it a bit due to your lower teeth's alignment with your upper teeth, therefore the more forward it is, the more space your mandible would have to grow forward. I got quite a lot of forward growth myself, but I also firmly believe that other things I did for my lower third contributed to that (see my softmaxxing post for what else I did).

The only method I have used for maxillary expansion is thumb pulling. Lots of you will say it's cope, but it worked for me, as well as loads of other people, so I am a big thumb pulling advocate, and will show you how to do it properly.

Just so you keep the intrigue, here are the before/after pictures:

Spoiler: Comparison

Before:
View attachment 3044608

After:
View attachment 3044609

(both pics taken under exact same angle, unstretched, unfrauded, even if you say that the pic is slightly rotated, or even if someone's head is slightly tilted, but still facing the camera at a perfect 90 degrees angle, the size of the maxillary triangle is what matters in the end, that's what's being compared)

The basics of Thumb Pulling:

Thumb pulling is used to.... yapyapyapyap- just stick your thumbs in your mouth and ascend.

Your upper palate is divided into two: the soft and the hard palates. You can differentiate between them pretty easily: the hard palate is at the front and has a riffled texture to it, whereas the soft palate is further back, starts around your GPF (greater palatine foramen, the part further back where your teeth come closer to each other from both sides)

View attachment 3044599

This is more important than you think, as SO many of you got VERY confused while I was trying to explain it without a diagram.

The positioning of thumbs:

I placed both of my thumbs just beyond the BORDER between the hard & the soft palates. My thumbs are not fully fitting in between the GPFs, so I rotate them slightly, so they barely fit and are "compressed" against each other in between the GPFs, so that they are also more secure in there.

(Rough) Demonstration:


View attachment 3044619

The positioning of arms, fingers & rest of the body:

Body:
I laid down on the bed, with my head on a pillow;

Rest of fingers:
I put my index fingers around my browridge, the rest are just wherever

(VERY rough) Demonstration LMAO:

View attachment 3044630

Arms:
While thumbs were already in my mouth and I'm already laying down, I press both of my elbows to my chest.

The process:

I pulled straight forward (perpendicular to my face) with my thumbs, while simultaneously pressing into my brows with my index fingers. I engaged my triceps to increase the pull force. The fact that my thumbs were facing slightly outwards, as demonstrated in the diagram, made the resultant force a little bit more sideways on each side respectively, so the palate expanded both forward and outward.

Demonstration of resultant force/desired direction of pull on my good friend Alien:
View attachment 3044648

Intensity/duration/schedule:

I pulled as hard as I could for as long as I could for one continuous rep, around 20-30 seconds, once a day (nightly).


Enjoy your ascension fellas, and go slay stacies. Much love to yall (no homo)

Jfl how tbe fucj did you do that

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Ouch that hurts wtf

A lot of you fuckers have been asking me about how I expanded my maxilla by miles in around 2 months, here's the full in-depth explanation on all methods I have used.

Benefits of well-developed maxillae:

Maxilla affects more parts of your skull than you think; your undereye support is greatly affected by your maxillary development, as your infraorbital position depends greatly on the position of your maxilla, that's why you can see a lot of people with flat maxillae having shit undereye support (you can call it lower eyelid exposure or whatever); forward growth is also affected by it a bit due to your lower teeth's alignment with your upper teeth, therefore the more forward it is, the more space your mandible would have to grow forward. I got quite a lot of forward growth myself, but I also firmly believe that other things I did for my lower third contributed to that (see my softmaxxing post for what else I did).

The only method I have used for maxillary expansion is thumb pulling. Lots of you will say it's cope, but it worked for me, as well as loads of other people, so I am a big thumb pulling advocate, and will show you how to do it properly.

Just so you keep the intrigue, here are the before/after pictures:

Spoiler: Comparison

Before:
View attachment 3044608

After:
View attachment 3044609

(both pics taken under exact same angle, unstretched, unfrauded, even if you say that the pic is slightly rotated, or even if someone's head is slightly tilted, but still facing the camera at a perfect 90 degrees angle, the size of the maxillary triangle is what matters in the end, that's what's being compared)

The basics of Thumb Pulling:

Thumb pulling is used to.... yapyapyapyap- just stick your thumbs in your mouth and ascend.

Your upper palate is divided into two: the soft and the hard palates. You can differentiate between them pretty easily: the hard palate is at the front and has a riffled texture to it, whereas the soft palate is further back, starts around your GPF (greater palatine foramen, the part further back where your teeth come closer to each other from both sides)

View attachment 3044599

This is more important than you think, as SO many of you got VERY confused while I was trying to explain it without a diagram.

The positioning of thumbs:

I placed both of my thumbs just beyond the BORDER between the hard & the soft palates. My thumbs are not fully fitting in between the GPFs, so I rotate them slightly, so they barely fit and are "compressed" against each other in between the GPFs, so that they are also more secure in there.

(Rough) Demonstration:


View attachment 3044619

The positioning of arms, fingers & rest of the body:

Body:
I laid down on the bed, with my head on a pillow;

Rest of fingers:
I put my index fingers around my browridge, the rest are just wherever

(VERY rough) Demonstration LMAO:

View attachment 3044630

Arms:
While thumbs were already in my mouth and I'm already laying down, I press both of my elbows to my chest.

The process:

I pulled straight forward (perpendicular to my face) with my thumbs, while simultaneously pressing into my brows with my index fingers. I engaged my triceps to increase the pull force. The fact that my thumbs were facing slightly outwards, as demonstrated in the diagram, made the resultant force a little bit more sideways on each side respectively, so the palate expanded both forward and outward.

Demonstration of resultant force/desired direction of pull on my good friend Alien:
View attachment 3044648

Intensity/duration/schedule:

I pulled as hard as I could for as long as I could for one continuous rep, around 20-30 seconds, once a day (nightly).


Enjoy your ascension fellas, and go slay stacies. Much love to yall (no homo)

 

[Doragon]

yes, do not do this with braces

Alr so should I wait till I get them out or even not do it after that?

 

[xnj]

Ouch that hurts wtf

gotta make it not hurt, check ur finger positioning

 

[xnj]

Alr so should I wait till I get them out or even not do it after that?

u can do it after u take them off yeah

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

A lot of you fuckers have been asking me about how I expanded my maxilla by miles in around 2 months, here's the full in-depth explanation on all methods I have used.

Benefits of well-developed maxillae:

Maxilla affects more parts of your skull than you think; your undereye support is greatly affected by your maxillary development, as your infraorbital position depends greatly on the position of your maxilla, that's why you can see a lot of people with flat maxillae having shit undereye support (you can call it lower eyelid exposure or whatever); forward growth is also affected by it a bit due to your lower teeth's alignment with your upper teeth, therefore the more forward it is, the more space your mandible would have to grow forward. I got quite a lot of forward growth myself, but I also firmly believe that other things I did for my lower third contributed to that (see my softmaxxing post for what else I did).

The only method I have used for maxillary expansion is thumb pulling. Lots of you will say it's cope, but it worked for me, as well as loads of other people, so I am a big thumb pulling advocate, and will show you how to do it properly.

Just so you keep the intrigue, here are the before/after pictures:

Spoiler: Comparison

Before:
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After:
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(both pics taken under exact same angle, unstretched, unfrauded, even if you say that the pic is slightly rotated, or even if someone's head is slightly tilted, but still facing the camera at a perfect 90 degrees angle, the size of the maxillary triangle is what matters in the end, that's what's being compared)

The basics of Thumb Pulling:

Thumb pulling is used to.... yapyapyapyap- just stick your thumbs in your mouth and ascend.

Your upper palate is divided into two: the soft and the hard palates. You can differentiate between them pretty easily: the hard palate is at the front and has a riffled texture to it, whereas the soft palate is further back, starts around your GPF (greater palatine foramen, the part further back where your teeth come closer to each other from both sides)

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This is more important than you think, as SO many of you got VERY confused while I was trying to explain it without a diagram.

The positioning of thumbs:

I placed both of my thumbs just beyond the BORDER between the hard & the soft palates. My thumbs are not fully fitting in between the GPFs, so I rotate them slightly, so they barely fit and are "compressed" against each other in between the GPFs, so that they are also more secure in there.

(Rough) Demonstration:


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The positioning of arms, fingers & rest of the body:

Body:
I laid down on the bed, with my head on a pillow;

Rest of fingers:
I put my index fingers around my browridge, the rest are just wherever

(VERY rough) Demonstration LMAO:

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Arms:
While thumbs were already in my mouth and I'm already laying down, I press both of my elbows to my chest.

The process:

I pulled straight forward (perpendicular to my face) with my thumbs, while simultaneously pressing into my brows with my index fingers. I engaged my triceps to increase the pull force. The fact that my thumbs were facing slightly outwards, as demonstrated in the diagram, made the resultant force a little bit more sideways on each side respectively, so the palate expanded both forward and outward.

Demonstration of resultant force/desired direction of pull on my good friend Alien:
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Intensity/duration/schedule:

I pulled as hard as I could for as long as I could for one continuous rep, around 20-30 seconds, once a day (nightly).


Enjoy your ascension fellas, and go slay stacies. Much love to yall (no homo)

How far back do i hook it? Like half hard half soft or just almost on the border

 

[xnj]

How far back do i hook it? Like half hard half soft or just almost on the border

almost on the border, a bit closer to soft

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

almost on the border, a bit closer to soft

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