My SARMs cycles, before+after pics attached

[IWantToMax]

I’ve talked to quite a few women (keep in mind they are all around 18/20y/o) and they all told me this is the ideal physique more or less

 

[Deleted member 8365]

You look good tbh but I dont think the roids were necessary at all when you consider what prime women actually pref physique wise

In the other pics your face looks more defined I would say. I think you are around 15% BF right now so personally I would recommend debloating and leanmaxxing. Doing that rn as well

Nobody care about prime women

 

[Deleted member 26824]

looks absolutely amazing wtf

 

[acmilan__]

500 ng/dl of test while bulking , you've fucked up your hormones just to look natty I'm sorry. But as you said your estrogen are low so you have no problem in depuffing during a cut. Probably u won't any put more muscle mass as a natural with that level of test

 

[kaspersky]

looks absolutely amazing wtf

thanks!

500 ng/dl of test while bulking , you've fucked up your hormones just to look natty I'm sorry. But as you said your estrogen are low so you have no problem in depuffing during a cut. Probably u won't any put more muscle mass as a natural with that level of test

You have no idea about what you're talking about. "You have fucked up your hormones" ?????
Do you seriously think that if you use PEDs you will have your test low forever? No offence but bro, how dumb can you be? Have you ever heard about PCT and what it's used for?

I did the blood test BEFORE even starting PCT, I just wanted to see how fucked up I was. 500ng/dl is not even that bad. It's

I redid the test a few days ago, I have 870ng/dl. Since the end of my cycles I've gained about 1kg of lean mass. On a bulk rn though.

Everyone until now posted valuable comments, you're the only exception, I guess you're just baiting

 

[5.5psl]

Whats your current weight , height and approx bf% ?
Good physique

 

[kaspersky]

Whats your current weight , height and approx bf% ?
Good physique

thank you!!
About 67kg, 5'8'' barefoot, 10.2% bf

 

[Meister!]

Considering 99.9% of all threads on this site are useless this is one of the 0.01% threads making it worthwile to have an account on this forum. By the way there is two things holding you back:

- your collagen (rather the lack thereof).
- your skin tone, it's way too light for your phenotype and makes you look sickly I would research MT2.

 

[kaspersky]

Considering 99.9% of all threads on this site are useless this is one of the 0.01% threads making it worthwile to have an account on this forum. By the way there is two things holding you back:

- your collagen (rather the lack thereof).
- your skin tone, it's way too light for your phenotype and makes you look sickly I would research MT2.

I really appreciate you find my post interesting

I am taking collagen peptides by vital proteins, but it honestly doesn't look like it's doing much I'm also using collagen+hyaluronic acid creams, which actually kinda stretch my skin and make it look better, only on my face though. Do you have any other suggestions on this matter?

Regarding my skin tone, yeah, you are right I guess. During summer I can get really tanned, I'll try to do that more next summer

 

[Meister!]

I really appreciate you find my post interesting

I am taking collagen peptides by vital proteins, but it honestly doesn't look like it's doing much I'm also using collagen+hyaluronic acid creams, which actually kinda stretch my skin and make it look better, only on my face though. Do you have any other suggestions on this matter?

Regarding my skin tone, yeah, you are right I guess. During summer I can get really tanned, I'll try to do that more next summer

For how long are you taking these collagen peptides?

Collagen 3 needs 12 weeks to convert to Collagen 1 so it takes some time.

And looking at your pictures I have a suspicion.
If I was in your shoes I would:

- research ways to get more collagen through your diet.
- research MT2, because in your case I would want to be tanned all year round without damaging the skin too much.

And I also would:

- go and talk to a Dr. that specializes in GUT HEALTH (@Amnesia wasn't coping when he mentioned that everything relates to the gut).

Why?

Because I suspect that your gut has a problem thus leading to your skin problems, this is a problem a lot of people these days have without being aware of it, in my case I had undiagnosed gluten sensitivity for years leading to dry skin and hair, fine lines and pain in my joints.



EDIT: I also wanted to make a thread about growth and HGH/IGF-1 which I scrapped because this forum is an echo chamber of bro science. But if you guys want I could make an interesting thread on how your gut can looksmin you hard and even stunt growth!

 

[PrinceofDarkness]

Did you measure you're test before cycle?

 

[eyebagcel]

did you notice any growth to your feet and/or hands?

 

[kaspersky]

For how long are you taking these collagen peptides?

Collagen 3 needs 12 weeks to convert to Collagen 1 so it takes some time.

And looking at your pictures I have a suspicion.
If I was in your shoes I would:

- research ways to get more collagen through your diet.
- research MT2, because in your case I would want to be tanned all year round without damaging the skin too much.

And I also would:

- go and talk to a Dr. that specializes in GUT HEALTH (@Amnesia wasn't coping when he mentioned that everything relates to the gut).

Why?

Because I suspect that your gut has a problem thus leading to your skin problems, this is a problem a lot of people these days have without being aware of it, in my case I had undiagnosed gluten sensitivity for years leading to dry skin and hair, fine lines and pain in my joints.



EDIT: I also wanted to make a thread about growth and HGH/IGF-1 which I scrapped because this forum is an echo chamber of bro science. But if you guys want I could make an interesting thread on how your gut can looksmin you hard and even stunt growth!

Definitely less than 12 weeks, didn't know it took so long

I eat plenty of meat, white and red, I know that they contain collagen, but I guess it doesn't do much?
Regarding MT2, I saw what it does and it sounds good to me. I'd try it. The question would be where to get it and in what dosages

I am worried about my gut health now that I think about it, I also have some back acne (even before the cycles, ofc), and I've heard that it's possible that it's due to that. I must check it. Thank you for your advices.

Your comments are always valuable, so please go ahead with the post and let me know when you post it

 

[kaspersky]

Did you measure you're test before cycle?

Nope, I didn't

did you notice any growth to your feet and/or hands?

Zero, neither to the nose cartilage or ears...and no height increase ofc

 

[R@m@]

Is mk677 worth for healing injuries?

 

[PrinceofDarkness]

Is mk677 worth for healing injuries?

Somewhat. It helped me a little. Not too much though. Depends on source

 

[kaspersky]

Is mk677 worth for healing injuries?

As @PrinceofDarkness said, it somewhat helps. In my opinion it helps recovering faster from flu as it boosts the immune system

 

[R@m@]

As @PrinceofDarkness said, it somewhat helps. In my opinion it helps recovering faster from flu as it boosts the immune system

ostarine is probably better for that purpose, Ive heard both mk and ostarine are good for healing injuries but ostarine is supressive or can I avoid supression by taking small amounts and still heal tendonitis ?

 

[Deleted member 30679]

Ur dick still working?

 

[kaspersky]

ostarine is probably better for that purpose, Ive heard both mk and ostarine are good for healing injuries but ostarine is supressive or can I avoid supression by taking small amounts and still heal tendonitis ?

I know that at 3-5mg it's basically non-suppressive, but don't know if it would help heal tendonitis

Ur dick still working?

Yes, works like a charm, get hard randomly during the day and when I wake up as well. I have sex 4-6 times a week, no need to take cialis or anything else, libido is also high, but on the rad cycle my libido was effectively lower. I had sex either way during that cycle, but I could feel the libido going down.

 

[R@m@]

I know that at 3-5mg it's basically non-suppressive, but don't know if it would help heal tendonitis

I will probably try anavar, do you have any experience with it?

 

[kaspersky]

I will probably try anavar, do you have any experience with it?

No(t yet).
I have bought 100 pills, 10mg each, which I wanted to use for my next cycle. If I end up doing it I'll let you know.
A friend of mine had his back injured, took anavar and claimed he felt better though.

 

[R@m@]

No(t yet).
I have bought 100 pills, 10mg each, which I wanted to use for my next cycle. If I end up doing it I'll let you know.
A friend of mine had his back injured, took anavar and claimed he felt better though.

do you know a trusted source?

 

[kaspersky]

do you know a trusted source?

Of course, I can send it via dm as I'm not sure I can publicly here

 

[the_nextDavidLaid]

For how long are you taking these collagen peptides?

Collagen 3 needs 12 weeks to convert to Collagen 1 so it takes some time.

And looking at your pictures I have a suspicion.
If I was in your shoes I would:

- research ways to get more collagen through your diet.
- research MT2, because in your case I would want to be tanned all year round without damaging the skin too much.

And I also would:

- go and talk to a Dr. that specializes in GUT HEALTH (@Amnesia wasn't coping when he mentioned that everything relates to the gut).

Why?

Because I suspect that your gut has a problem thus leading to your skin problems, this is a problem a lot of people these days have without being aware of it, in my case I had undiagnosed gluten sensitivity for years leading to dry skin and hair, fine lines and pain in my joints.



EDIT: I also wanted to make a thread about growth and HGH/IGF-1 which I scrapped because this forum is an echo chamber of bro science. But if you guys want I could make an interesting thread on how your gut can looksmin you hard and even stunt growth!

Please do bro and tag me.

 

[bradpittshairline]

how long did it take for the pre SARMS from untrained?

 

[kaspersky]

how long did it take for the pre SARMS from untrained?

untrained to pre SARMs "took me" about 10 years of swimming (since I was a kid basically) and about a year of gym, I was simply lean after all

 

[bradpittshairline]

untrained to pre SARMs "took me" about 10 years of swimming (since I was a kid basically) and about a year of gym, I was simply lean after all

thats my goal physique imma follow it, I'm a bit skinny fat from being lazy but I got a good frame like u

 

[kaspersky]

thats my goal physique imma follow it, I'm a bit skinny fat from being lazy but I got a good frame like u

glad to hear, if I were you I'd consider taking cardarine

 

[bradpittshairline]

glad to hear, if I were you I'd consider taking cardarine

i was researching something else on liver health some days back and found that 500mg cardarine a day made no difference in liver health

 

[kaspersky]

i was researching something else on liver health some days back and found that 500mg cardarine a day made no difference in liver health

taking 500mg of cardarine a day is crazy, 20mg is already a good dosage, anyways it may not be liver toxic but i'd take NAC either way

 

[Be_ConfidentBro]

Impressive results. Mirn.

Height?

 

[Deleted member 8365]

Insane results, hyper responder.
Fix your skin though wtf, I’ve never seen worse skin texture on a young non vegan.
Look into some old collagen maxxing threads / diet threads (animal based) and start using GHK-Cu on your skin.

What mog between tret and ghk cu topical ?

 

[SomaliMax]

How is ur body rn? Did u lose any muscles?

 

[zharupodrugu]

untrained to pre SARMs "took me" about 10 years of swimming (since I was a kid basically) and about a year of gym, I was simply lean after all

your natty results are shitty but SARMS results are insane

thank you!!
About 67kg, 5'8'' barefoot, 10.2% bf

I'm 73 kg, same height but u look way bigger than me

 

[kaspersky]

How is ur body rn? Did u lose any muscles?

I didn't lose anything, but keep in mind that I never stop training.

your natty results are shitty but SARMS results are insane

I'm 73 kg, same height but u look way bigger than me

Thank you brother! I guess it's due to the bf%. Lower bf% usually makes you look "bigger"

 

[RottingButIn6.4]

As requested on this thread by @MaestheticMaso , I'm making a post to share my experiences and progress with SARMs.


This is how I looked 6 months before my first cycle

1 month before my first cycle


So I had a lean/shredded build, but definitely wasn't big. I was only supplementing with creatine and whey.

Then I started my first SARMs cycle with Ostarine, at 20mg ed for 8 weeks.
I started feeling the effects at around the 5th week. You have more strenght, recover faster, better pumps, and basically that's it.
At the end of the cycle I had absolutely 0 side effects, didn't do any bloodwork because I felt completely fine.
I gained some kg of lean mass during this period.
Even though I had 0 sides, I bought tamoxifen before hand just in case I developed gyno, even though it's unbelievably uncommon.

I'd suggest any newbie to start with Ostarine first.
Of course you shouldn't take any SARMs or steroid...but in case you do, you know how to harm yourself as little as possible

I then started taking MK-677 (ibutamoren), 5 times a week at 10-12.5mg.
It's not a SARM but it's worth mentioning.
You recover insanely fast, you can do a brutal leg day, take mk and the next day you're good to go again.
The sleep is also insane, you can sleep 5 hours and wake up feeling like you slept 8 or 9. Tested my blood sugar daily, and instead of going up it stayed the same for a couple weeks, then it went down a little instead!
I was eating healthy, no refined sugars, and supplementing with berberine before meals high in carbs (like pasta, pizza, rice).

Then after about 3 months, started with RAD-140, 10mg ed.
At this point as I also wanted to cut, I stopped taking MK677 (maybe once a week maximum just for the good sleep) and started taking Cardarine at 12.5mg ed.
This shit (RAD) is incredibly strong. I could see my muscles growing bigger every week, I had a shitton more strenght, was angry and irritated at everyone and everything (which made me feel more focused during workouts for some reason?) and my muscles looked and felt dense as rocks.

During the 3rd week I started feeling the sides (low energy/low test, no libido, ed), so I started taking 10mg every three days (as the half-life of rad seems to be of around 60h) for the remaining 5 weeks. I was also having sex about 5-6 times a week, so the low libido may have been caused by that as well, but you never know.

After doing that, I had little to no sides (other than anger and irritability), maybe I was a little bit unmotivated and had less libido than usual during the last 2 weeks, but that's it.
No hair loss, no acne (I already suffer from acne on my back, but it didn't worsen or anything), no gyno.

At this point though, as I knew that RAD-140 is much more suppressive than Ostarine, I took a blood test as soon as I finished the cycle to see how my testosterone was doing.
I had about 500 nanograms/dL, which as you may know is not considered high (not even that low, though).
Estrogens were in the low to normal range, all good.
Cholesterol HDL and LDL were perfectly in the healthy range. Liver was healthy as well.
Note that during both cycles I supplemented with NAC (needed for the liver), fish oil (omega 3 pills, 1000mg ed) and fermented red rice (for cholesterol).

I did some PCT with clomid at 50mg ed for a week, recovered completely and my libido got high again.

These are the end results:
First (during osta only)
Second (just finished the osta cycle)
Third (post rad140 cycle)

I ended up gaining about 7-8kg of lean mass.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

If you live in Europe I can suggest a safe source to get them, not sure I can do it publicly due to the rules though.

What socials u got i need european sources asap

 

[kaspersky]

What socials u got i need european sources asap

DM me

 

[kaspersky]

Reposting the pictures because I first uploaded them via a 90d expiry image upload service.

This is how I looked 6 months before my first cycle (1st pic)
1 month before my first cycle (2nd pic)
First (during osta only) (3rd pic)
Second (just finished the osta cycle) (4th pic)
Third (post rad140 cycle) (5th pic)

 

[niqfan625]

As requested on this thread by @MaestheticMaso , I'm making a post to share my experiences and progress with SARMs.


This is how I looked 6 months before my first cycle

1 month before my first cycle


So I had a lean/shredded build, but definitely wasn't big. I was only supplementing with creatine and whey.

Then I started my first SARMs cycle with Ostarine, at 20mg ed for 8 weeks.
I started feeling the effects at around the 5th week. You have more strenght, recover faster, better pumps, and basically that's it.
At the end of the cycle I had absolutely 0 side effects, didn't do any bloodwork because I felt completely fine.
I gained some kg of lean mass during this period.
Even though I had 0 sides, I bought tamoxifen before hand just in case I developed gyno, even though it's unbelievably uncommon.

I'd suggest any newbie to start with Ostarine first.
Of course you shouldn't take any SARMs or steroid...but in case you do, you know how to harm yourself as little as possible

I then started taking MK-677 (ibutamoren), 5 times a week at 10-12.5mg.
It's not a SARM but it's worth mentioning.
You recover insanely fast, you can do a brutal leg day, take mk and the next day you're good to go again.
The sleep is also insane, you can sleep 5 hours and wake up feeling like you slept 8 or 9. Tested my blood sugar daily, and instead of going up it stayed the same for a couple weeks, then it went down a little instead!
I was eating healthy, no refined sugars, and supplementing with berberine before meals high in carbs (like pasta, pizza, rice).

Then after about 3 months, started with RAD-140, 10mg ed.
At this point as I also wanted to cut, I stopped taking MK677 (maybe once a week maximum just for the good sleep) and started taking Cardarine at 12.5mg ed.
This shit (RAD) is incredibly strong. I could see my muscles growing bigger every week, I had a shitton more strenght, was angry and irritated at everyone and everything (which made me feel more focused during workouts for some reason?) and my muscles looked and felt dense as rocks.

During the 3rd week I started feeling the sides (low energy/low test, no libido, ed), so I started taking 10mg every three days (as the half-life of rad seems to be of around 60h) for the remaining 5 weeks. I was also having sex about 5-6 times a week, so the low libido may have been caused by that as well, but you never know.

After doing that, I had little to no sides (other than anger and irritability), maybe I was a little bit unmotivated and had less libido than usual during the last 2 weeks, but that's it.
No hair loss, no acne (I already suffer from acne on my back, but it didn't worsen or anything), no gyno.

At this point though, as I knew that RAD-140 is much more suppressive than Ostarine, I took a blood test as soon as I finished the cycle to see how my testosterone was doing.
I had about 500 nanograms/dL, which as you may know is not considered high (not even that low, though).
Estrogens were in the low to normal range, all good.
Cholesterol HDL and LDL were perfectly in the healthy range. Liver was healthy as well.
Note that during both cycles I supplemented with NAC (needed for the liver), fish oil (omega 3 pills, 1000mg ed) and fermented red rice (for cholesterol).

I did some PCT with clomid at 50mg ed for a week, recovered completely and my libido got high again.

These are the end results:
First (during osta only)
Second (just finished the osta cycle)
Third (post rad140 cycle)

I ended up gaining about 7-8kg of lean mass.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

If you live in Europe I can suggest a safe source to get them, not sure I can do it publicly due to the rules though.

Should i train 1 year natty 2 times a week (+2x gym) first with a bulk phase first or can i do this already with only 5 months inconsistent training but i saw small results but didnt gain any weight? My biceps and triceps got a big bigger but i have ethnic genes and i am skinny fat from the middle east. Im also 5’8 like your. Can i do it now already or should I train natty some more? I really dont care about being natural just want to be muscular.

 

[kaspersky]

Should i train 1 year natty 2 times a week (+2x gym) first with a bulk phase first or can i do this already with only 5 months inconsistent training but i saw small results but didnt gain any weight? My biceps and triceps got a big bigger but i have ethnic genes and i am skinny fat from the middle east. Im also 5’8 like your. Can i do it now already or should I train natty some more? I really dont care about being natural just want to be muscular.

Try to train 3 times a week, 4 is preferable, also don't mess up your diet with shit food

It's completely up to you by the way, I have a friend who used to be skinny fat and same height as me and after a cycle of osta he ascended

Ostarine is completely fine for everyone, it's really bland and supposedly weak, I'd give it a try at 15-20mg/day for 8 weeks

 

[niqfan625]

As requested on this thread by @MaestheticMaso , I'm making a post to share my experiences and progress with SARMs.


This is how I looked 6 months before my first cycle

1 month before my first cycle


So I had a lean/shredded build, but definitely wasn't big. I was only supplementing with creatine and whey.

Then I started my first SARMs cycle with Ostarine, at 20mg ed for 8 weeks.
I started feeling the effects at around the 5th week. You have more strenght, recover faster, better pumps, and basically that's it.
At the end of the cycle I had absolutely 0 side effects, didn't do any bloodwork because I felt completely fine.
I gained some kg of lean mass during this period.
Even though I had 0 sides, I bought tamoxifen before hand just in case I developed gyno, even though it's unbelievably uncommon.

I'd suggest any newbie to start with Ostarine first.
Of course you shouldn't take any SARMs or steroid...but in case you do, you know how to harm yourself as little as possible

I then started taking MK-677 (ibutamoren), 5 times a week at 10-12.5mg.
It's not a SARM but it's worth mentioning.
You recover insanely fast, you can do a brutal leg day, take mk and the next day you're good to go again.
The sleep is also insane, you can sleep 5 hours and wake up feeling like you slept 8 or 9. Tested my blood sugar daily, and instead of going up it stayed the same for a couple weeks, then it went down a little instead!
I was eating healthy, no refined sugars, and supplementing with berberine before meals high in carbs (like pasta, pizza, rice).

Then after about 3 months, started with RAD-140, 10mg ed.
At this point as I also wanted to cut, I stopped taking MK677 (maybe once a week maximum just for the good sleep) and started taking Cardarine at 12.5mg ed.
This shit (RAD) is incredibly strong. I could see my muscles growing bigger every week, I had a shitton more strenght, was angry and irritated at everyone and everything (which made me feel more focused during workouts for some reason?) and my muscles looked and felt dense as rocks.

During the 3rd week I started feeling the sides (low energy/low test, no libido, ed), so I started taking 10mg every three days (as the half-life of rad seems to be of around 60h) for the remaining 5 weeks. I was also having sex about 5-6 times a week, so the low libido may have been caused by that as well, but you never know.

After doing that, I had little to no sides (other than anger and irritability), maybe I was a little bit unmotivated and had less libido than usual during the last 2 weeks, but that's it.
No hair loss, no acne (I already suffer from acne on my back, but it didn't worsen or anything), no gyno.

At this point though, as I knew that RAD-140 is much more suppressive than Ostarine, I took a blood test as soon as I finished the cycle to see how my testosterone was doing.
I had about 500 nanograms/dL, which as you may know is not considered high (not even that low, though).
Estrogens were in the low to normal range, all good.
Cholesterol HDL and LDL were perfectly in the healthy range. Liver was healthy as well.
Note that during both cycles I supplemented with NAC (needed for the liver), fish oil (omega 3 pills, 1000mg ed) and fermented red rice (for cholesterol).

I did some PCT with clomid at 50mg ed for a week, recovered completely and my libido got high again.

These are the end results:
First (during osta only)
Second (just finished the osta cycle)
Third (post rad140 cycle)

I ended up gaining about 7-8kg of lean mass.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

If you live in Europe I can suggest a safe source to get them, not sure I can do it publicly due to the rules though.

Should i train 1 year natty 2 times a week (+2x gym) first with a bulk face or can i do this with only 5 months inconsistent training but i saw sole small results but didnt gain any weight

Try to train 3 times a week, 4 is preferable, also don't mess up your diet with shit food

It's completely up to you by the way, I have a friend who used to be skinny fat and same height as me and after a cycle of osta he ascended

Ostarine is completely fine for everyone, it's really bland and supposedly weak, I'd give it a try at 15-20mg/day for 8 weeks

oh i meant to say i train in the gym 2x and 2x boxing classes. Im still heightmaxxing with some ghrps and ghrh and AI. Should i heightmaxx first or can i give Ostarine simultaneously a try?

 

[niqfan625]

Try to train 3 times a week, 4 is preferable, also don't mess up your diet with shit food

It's completely up to you by the way, I have a friend who used to be skinny fat and same height as me and after a cycle of osta he ascended

Ostarine is completely fine for everyone, it's really bland and supposedly weak, I'd give it a try at 15-20mg/day for 8 weeks

oh i meant to say i train in the gym 2x and 2x boxing classes. Im still heightmaxxing with some ghrps and ghrh and AI. Should i heightmaxx first or can i give Ostarine simultaneously a try? Im 17,5 years old

 

[kaspersky]

oh i meant to say i train in the gym 2x and 2x boxing classes. Im still heightmaxxing with some ghrps and ghrh and AI. Should i heightmaxx first or can i give Ostarine simultaneously a try? Im 17,5 years old

simultaneusly is ok, they do completely different and unrelated things

 

[niqfan625]

oh i meant to say i train in the gym 2x and 2x boxing classes. Im still heightmaxxing with some ghrps and ghrh and AI. Should i heightmaxx first or can i give Ostarine simultaneously a try?

simultaneusly is ok, they do completely different and unrelated things

Ok thanks. Im thinking of running Ostarine and LGD 4033 togheter to bulk up and as a first cycle. Would this be good?

 

[kaspersky]

Ok thanks. Im thinking of running Ostarine and LGD 4033 togheter to bulk up and as a first cycle. Would this be good?

don't stack them if you don't know how you will react to each of them, start with osta, then later on you can try lgd, then you can do both in the future

but the thing is that usually, when stacking sarms you get just a few more benefits but you sum up the side effects of both

 

[niqfan625]

don't stack them if you don't know how you will react to each of them, start with osta, then later on you can try lgd, then you can do both in the future

but the thing is that usually, when stacking sarms you get just a few more benefits but you sum up the side effects of both

Ok good to know. So first a Ostra cycle 8 weeks and then wait 4 weeks and then and Lgd cycle?

 

[kaspersky]

Ok good to know. So first a Ostra cycle 8 weeks and then wait 4 weeks and then and Lgd cycle?

8 weeks osta cycle, then depending on how fast you recover (it could take 2-8 weeks, takes less if you take PCT such as clomid, tamox, enclomid, hCG etc) you can start the next one with lgd

 

[niqfan625]

8 weeks osta cycle, then depending on how fast you recover (it could take 2-8 weeks, takes less if you take PCT such as clomid, tamox, enclomid, hCG etc) you can start the next one with lgd

Okay what do you think of rad-140 should i do that instead of lgd? Or try the other two first with PCT and after that rad-140?

 

[kaspersky]

Okay what do you think of rad-140 should i do that instead of lgd? Or try the other two first with PCT and after that rad-140?

I personally didn't try lgd so can't say, but I know that lgd may cause lgd flu, so I'd avoid that, I'd use rad140 instead (and that's what I did)

you most likely won't need any PCT for osta, but surely will for rad, so get your hands on some good pct (and quality sarms as well) before starting. As previously mentioned I can recommend a store to buy from via dms, but it's europe only.