Natural lifting is low pre- position

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Truth be told, when guys say a peak natural physique (5 years consistent lifting minimum) looks good they are talking about how good it looks while shirtless, in a pump, favourable lighting and flexing. Out of the gym without all the favourable lighting mirrors that creates distorted angles and other tools to manipulate your surroundings in your favour to look good, Flexing or subconscious impulse to staunch/flex, without a pump, and with a normal shirt on you will 100% look like you do not lift unless your purposely wearing a tight shirt which will just make you look like a homosexual.

Only peak naturals with very good frame’s, muscle insertions and limb proportions look actually good with a shirt on but even then they will look DYEL. Not to mention its basically impossible to be big and lean at the same time while natural so forget about that fantasy you need gear for that.

This guy claims natural, but obviously he is on steroids.

 

[autistic_tendencies]

You have just never seen genetically blessed specimen before

 

[ConfusedBolivian]

You have just never seen genetically blessed specimen before

This

 

[Epola]

"All natural lifters are small" "All natural lifters who aren't small are actually on drugs and lying about it"

There's nothing blackpilled about this perspective, it's just delusional cope.

 

[radicalrationalist]

natty lifting is a good primer when you're young. after 1 year of good training if you don't have your goal, inject