NGL Madara goal in naruto seems much more appealing he seemed like the good guy in the whole god damn series he was based enough to see the truth.

[reptiles]

If you have seen naruto the whole series you see the whole show as fucked as it is it would appear none of them had adequate solution similarly to this world we have a fucked world resources are crumbling unlike anime their is no happy ending i mean after the war ark the entire series followed the cliche happy endings.

If you wanna see what a realistic naruto would entail it's much more interesting i will add this here if you wanna read https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7474227/1/Shadows-of-Konoha it is 500 k words but what a good story NGL i gobbled it up in 3 fucking days it was so bloody good.

But anyways it added realism to the story it showed perfect endings don't occur things go wrong all the time everything is fallible then we have madara in every sense of the word moral incarnate a person calling out for justice in a system totally rigged against him endless pointless wars endless suffering.

Madara them becomes even wiser to let personal feeling get in the way but instead chooses to see the circularity of life. The never ending cycles that occurs and then we have a genius that no longer cares about the human imperfections but instead chooses to aim towards a system that has perfect endings that has perfect hope for everyone.

It seems madara is the the only respectable only rational only non selfish character in all of anime what he seeks is admirable and 1 could say we should all seek to enquire this speech is magnicent on what it signifies with the change of the current system all we will ever have is circular narratives however with the moon eye plan all can enjoy their own personal heaven.


I wish we had a real life madara someone who could end this fucking system once and for all naruto verse god lucky madara was the good guy

 

[Deleted member 1560]

Madara did nothing wrong

 

[reptiles]

Madara did nothing wrong

Best anime character in the series ngl i want that damn realm i want infinite tsycomi

 

[nattycel]

Hashirama

 

[reptiles]

Hashirama

The ultimate villian ngl he defended the evil of the shinobi system

 

[nattycel]

The ultimate villian ngl he defended the evil of the shinobi system

No he didn't. He was smart enough to know humans will always be humans and
evil will never be completely eradicated.

Madara had a twisted sense of the world and was going to go to any lengths to impose
his world view on everyone.

Hashirama should've finished him off fully the first time

 

[reptiles]

No he didn't. He was smart enough to know humans will always be humans and
evil will never be completely eradicated.

Madara had a twisted sense of the world and was going to go to any lengths to impose
his world view on everyone.

Hashirama should've finished him off fully the first time

No he didn't. He was smart enough to know humans will always be humans and
evil will never be completely eradicated.


But the system of evil only ever came about cause their were sufficient means for evil philosophically madara was superior cause he realized the futility of both sides man seeks peace in the current system whilst yet simultaneously spilling blood he understood perfection was not possible however he realized giving free will inside the moon eye dream is infintely better than the suffering people experience.

Madara had a twisted sense of the world and was going to go to any lengths to impose
his world view on everyone.

It seemed authoritarian but remeber the whole idea is you you would keep your free will in the moon eye dream.

Hashirama should've finished him off fully the first time


But in ideals madara mogged

 

[Zygos4Life]

FUCKING FOCK FUCK FUCK MY FUCK!!!!!

 

[Roping Subhuman]

Madara was indeed the good guy. he was pilled he knew that the world is unjust and unforgiving. so he wanted to create a world where everyone was happy. just imagine a world in your image, that's what Madara wanted.

With infinite tsukuyomi he could've visualised that world, but of course greedy Naruto and his goons didn't want a world where Subhumans didn't exist. they didn't want a world where all people would be happy.


FUCK NARUTO.

 

[reptiles]

Madara was indeed the good guy. he was pilled he knew that the world in unjust and unforgiving. so he wanted to create a world where everyone was happy. just imagine a world in your image, that's what Madara wanted.

With infinite tsukuyomi he could've visualised that world, but of course greedy Naruto and his goons didn't want a world where Subhumans didn't exist. they didn't want a world where all people would be happy.


FUCK NARUTO.

Exactly i wish i had a madara when my dad died tbh fucking kike had to stop madara true dream i mean think about how easy life would under the infinite dream no more suffering no more pain no more boredom everthing what 1 wants is provided

 

[Roping Subhuman]

Exactly i wish i had a madara when my dad died tbh fucking kike had to stop madara true dream i mean think about how easy life would under the infinite dream no more suffering no more pain no more boredom everthing what 1 wants is provided

Naruto is a greedy Kike faggot. as long as he'll be Hokage he doesn't give a fuck.

 

[nattycel]

Madara was indeed the good guy. he was pilled he knew that the world is unjust and unforgiving. so he wanted to create a world where everyone was happy. just imagine a world in your image, that's what Madara wanted.

With infinite tsukuyomi he could've visualised that world, but of course greedy Naruto and his goons didn't want a world where Subhumans didn't exist. they didn't want a world where all people would be happy.


FUCK NARUTO.

Imagine having to live a lie of happiness in your dreams.

I'd rather live in real life and fight for happiness against villains like Madara

Hashirama >>>

 

[reptiles]

Imagine having to live a lie of happiness in your dreams.

I'd rather live in real life and fight for happiness against villains like Madara

Hashirama >>>

Ultimate blue pill their is no true good and evil their 2 sides of the same coin its all from the point of reference from my angle madara was the hero cause he saw the futility in the infinity of life its like a never ending circle

 

[Roping Subhuman]

Imagine having to live a lie of happiness in your dreams.

I'd rather live in real life and fight for happiness against villains like Madara

Hashirama >>>

Who gives a fuck that it's a dream? it will feel 100% real.

 

[nattycel]

Who gives a fuck that it's a dream? it will feel 100% real.

Everyone gave a fuck and didn't want to live a lie in their dreams

That's why everyone opposed Madara just lol

 

[reptiles]

Naruto is a greedy Kike faggot. as long as he'll be Hokage he doesn't give a fuck.

Makes sense tbh he doesn't care about others suffering and the funny thing is kishi moto went blue pill near the end the black pilled ending of naruto was so much more fucked just to show you what madara had to experiance.


A black pilled version has starving villagers villagers being killed in every day occurrences like a literal hell the ending is blue pilled as fuck in the normal series shadows of konoha shows the darker side know imagine for a sec you have madara seeing all this working towards a better life for everyone so stuff like this doesn't occur so you no longer have uchia massacres innocents dead and some how he is the bad guy

Everyone gave a fuck and didn't want to live a lie in their dreams

That's why everyone opposed Madara just lol

No they just saw madara as a boogey man if people truly knew what such a man was offering they would sign up for it

 

[nattycel]

Ultimate blue pill their is no true good and evil their 2 sides of the same coin its all from the point of reference from my angle madara was the hero cause he saw the futility in the infinity of life its like a never ending circle

Living a lie in your dreams is the ultimate beta escapist pill

 

[Roping Subhuman]

Everyone gave a fuck and didn't want to live a lie in their dreams

That's why everyone opposed Madara just lol

Just lol if you think Incels would've opposed Madara. if Naruto was at least somewhat realistic Madara would've had shit ton of support.

 

[reptiles]

Just lol if you think Incels would've opposed Madara. if Naruto was at least somewhat realistic Madara would've had shit ton of support.

TBH people would sign up the instant he came we all look for perfection our hearts cry for justice madaras ideals embolden all that

 

[nattycel]

Just lol if you think Incels would've opposed Madara. if Naruto was at least somewhat realistic Madara would've had shit ton of support.

World doesn't let incels run shit for a reason. They'd almost always make beta emo escapist choices

 

[reptiles]

Living a lie in your dreams is the ultimate beta escapist pill

Not really if change is not truly possible cause of the loop that is reality escaping shithole seems like the goal

World doesn't let incels run shit for a reason. They'd almost always make beta emo escapist choices

Dude ultimate blue pill if you think change is every possible it isn't society is just a circle nothing knew under the sun just in different iteration

 

[nattycel]

Not really if change is not truly possible cause of the loop that is reality escaping shithole seems like the goal

Maybe for someone who is a beta and incapable of facing reality

 

[reptiles]

Maybe for someone who is a beta and incapable of facing reality

If you really want to look at it this way life is shit you will always have this circular loop in life the best we can hope for is justice this gives it this system delivers

 

[nattycel]

If you really want to look at it this way life is shit you will always have this circular loop in life the best we can hope for is justice this gives it this system delivers

Justice in real life is what Hashirama stood for

Hence, he was the ultimate alpha good guy

 

[Ritalincel]

incel

 

[crosshold]

Maybe for someone who is a beta and incapable of facing reality

who gives a fuck if living in a dream world is "fake" and "beta". who's gonna judge me? you? some random faggot from an obscure internet forum. sorry buddy you wouldnt even exist in my dream world. whats the difference between objective and subjective reality? does it matter? really, it doesn't. what the ego experiences is what truly matters. its all about perception. and my perception is that youre a retard

 

[reptiles]

Justice in real life is what Hashirama stood for

Hence, he was the ultimate alpha good guy

But what happened cause of his wierd form of justice 1 2 3 4 ninja occurs and if were taking the realistic version 5 fucking ninja wars cause of the stupid decision of thinking peace can ever be truly obtained in a imperfect world

 

[Ritalincel]

World doesn't let incels run shit for a reason. They'd almost always make beta emo escapist choices

celHopeless

 

[nattycel]

who gives a fuck if living in a dream world is "fake" and "beta". who's gonna judge me? you? some random faggot from an obscure internet forum. sorry buddy you wouldnt even exist in my dream world. whats the difference between objective and subjective reality? does it matter? really, it doesn't. what the ego experiences is what truly matters. its all about perception. and my perception is that youre a retard

You're very angry. No wonder you'd want to be happy in your dreams even if it means it isn't real.

Typical escapist mindset.
By your logic people should just sleep the entire day if their life is tough.

 

[Ritalincel]

 

[nattycel]

But what happened cause of his wierd form of justice 1 2 3 4 ninja occurs and if were taking the realistic version 5 fucking ninja wars cause of the stupid decision of thinking peace can ever be truly obtained in a imperfect world

These wars were started by retards like madara, pain, obito and orochimaro who were all
escapist emos that had tough lives and wanted to escape reality

 

[crosshold]

You're very angry. No wonder you'd want to be happy in your dreams even if it means it isn't real.

Typical escapist mindset.
By your logic people should just sleep the entire day if their life is tough.

is that supposed to be an insult? your opinion of me is literally irrelevant and you're coping with human ideologies of: IM BIG STRONG MAN I HANDLE PROBLEM EASY I DONT CARE IF SUFFER I AM ALPHA

no people shouldnt sleep the whole day because sleeping isnt a very good experience. sleeping isnt like living in real life. living in a dream world IS though because it doesnt feel any different from real life.

 

[reptiles]

These wars were started by retards like madara, pain, obito and orochimaro who were all
escapist emos that had tough lives and wanted to escape reality

But madara could only do that cause the pieces falled in place in such a way they could do it in other words reality leaves option for shit like to occur it's why i oppose hashirama and all his stupid ideals

 

[nattycel]

is that supposed to be an insult? your opinion of me is literally irrelevant and you're coping with human ideologies of: IM BIG STRONG MAN I HANDLE PROBLEM EASY I DONT CARE IF SUFFER I AM ALPHA

no people shouldnt sleep the whole day because sleeping isnt a very good experience. sleeping isnt like living in real life. living in a dream world IS though because it doesnt feel any different from real life.

Just lol you're the one who made it personal in the first place retardo

who gives a fuck if living in a dream world is "fake" and "beta". who's gonna judge me? you? some random faggot from an obscure internet forum. sorry buddy you wouldnt even exist in my dream world.

Facing real life doesn't make anyone BIG STRONG MAN it makes you a man.
Living in your dreams to escape real life makes you a WEAK MAN though

 

[crosshold]

Just lol you're the one who made it personal in the first place retardo

who gives a fuck if living in a dream world is "fake" and "beta". who's gonna judge me? you? some random faggot from an obscure internet forum. sorry buddy you wouldnt even exist in my dream world.

Facing real life doesn't make anyone BIG STRONG MAN it makes you a man.
Living in your dreams to escape real life makes you a WEAK MAN though

your opinion on what makes someone a strong or weak man is literally irrelevant. having a good quality of life>opinions of others.

 

[nattycel]

But madara could only do that cause the pieces falled in place in such a way they could do it in other words reality leaves option for shit like to occur it's why i oppose hashirama and all his stupid ideals

No, Hashirama had already made one hell of a peaceful world before Madara went all
retardo and decided to oppose him

your opinion on what makes someone a strong or weak man is literally irrelevant. having a good quality of life>opinions of others.

Good quality of life in your dreams

Nice oxymoron

 

[reptiles]

No, Hashirama had already made one hell of a peaceful world before Madara went all
retardo and decided to oppose him

Good quality of life in your dreams

Nice oxymoron

Really oh yeah i forget kishi went all blue pilled the black pilled version showed that they were already a plank scale away from being on the scale of global war the time period was so bad that madara seemed like a bloody hero madara didn't ruin shit it actually obito that fucked most of madara's plan madara was actually merciful

 

[nattycel]

Really oh yeah i forget kishi went all blue pilled the black pilled version showed that they were already a plank scale away from being on the scale of global war the time period was so bad that madara seemed like a bloody hero madara didn't ruin shit it actually obito that fucked most of madara's plan madara was actually merciful

So all this time you were debating fanfiction?

 

[reptiles]

So all this time you were debating fanfiction?

No it just showed us what the series most likely would have went down to be honest but we have clues of how shit the world was in their own world even with the blue pilled route kishi went the only good guy was madara

 

[nattycel]

No it just showed us what the series most likely would have went down to be honest but we have clues of how shit the world was in their own world even with the blue pilled route kishi went the only good guy was madara

No hashirama established peace in the real world and madara was the bad guy for trying
to destroy the peace

It's really simple, madara was an emo mentally ill villian who thought he was a hero

 

[reptiles]

No hashirama established peace in the real world and madara was the bad guy for trying
to destroy the peace

It's really simple, madara was an emo mentally ill villian who thought he was a hero

His peace lasted so little if their wasn't madara some other power hungry mother fucker would have went for it tbh lets not kid ourselves their world is a shithole and it is realistic it is similar to this world it is filled with pain and tragedy why can we not escape it we deserve it

 

[Ritalincel]

 

[nattycel]

His peace lasted so little if their wasn't madara some other power hungry mother fucker would have went for it tbh lets not kid ourselves their world is a shithole and it is realistic it is similar to this world it is filled with pain and tragedy why can we not escape it we deserve it

lol now you're trying to debate what if scenarios

His peace listed so little because madara the villian decided to destroy the established peace

 

[reptiles]

lol now you're trying to debate what if scenarios

His peace listed so little because madara the villian decided to destroy the established peace

Not really like i said before if this had even 1 percent realism like the shadows of konoha shit would is much worse kishi purposely chose a blue pilled show if it would have been like guts you would see the good in madara

 

[nattycel]

Not really like i said before if this had even 1 percent realism like the shadows of konoha shit would is much worse kishi purposely chose a blue pilled show if it would have been like guts you would see the good in madara

Well, I can only go by what actually happened in the show.

Fanfiction is fiction for a reason

 

[reptiles]

Well, I can only go by what actually happened in the show.

Fanfiction is fiction for a reason

But it follows from how real life works were all fallible nothing is ever perfect in fact were all ruled over by a few idiots and their is no fighter fighting for our suffering madara represents the ultimate ideal of fighting for the little guy

 

[nattycel]

But it follows from how real life works were all fallible nothing is ever perfect in fact were all ruled over by a few idiots and their is no fighter fighting for our suffering madara represents the ultimate ideal of fighting for the little guy

Hashirama was fighting for the little guy with a lot of success until madara decided to play the villian

Anyway, real life isn't supposed to be perfect just like how we aren't supposed to live fake lives in our dreams

 

[reptiles]

Hashirama was fighting for the little guy with a lot of success until madara decided to play the villian

Anyway, real life isn't supposed to be perfect just like how we aren't supposed to live fake lives in our dreams

Hashirama was fighting for the little guy with a lot of success until madara decided to play the villian


Really though creating nation states which profit wars on smaller nations that is fighting for the little guy ? that is fighting for us dying in war for politicans ?

Anyway, real life isn't supposed to be perfect just like how we aren't supposed to live fake lives in our dreams

Adam was perfect eve was perfect god was perfect we are not that dream would have made us perfect

 

[nattycel]

Hashirama was fighting for the little guy with a lot of success until madara decided to play the villian


Really though creating nation states which profit wars on smaller nations that is fighting for the little guy ? that is fighting for us dying in war for politicans ?

Anyway, real life isn't supposed to be perfect just like how we aren't supposed to live fake lives in our dreams

Adam was perfect eve was perfect god was perfect we are not that dream would have made us perfect

Hashirama literally gave 8 of the 9 tailed beasts to other nations to balance the power and establish
harmony through out the lands. All nations were prospering under his peace.

What are you trying to say with adam and eve point? type it clearly I don't get it

 

[reptiles]

Hashirama literally gave 8 of the 9 tailed beasts to other nations to balance the power and establish
harmony through out the lands. All nations were prospering under his peace.

What are you trying to say with adam and eve point? type it clearly I don't get it

1st point don't be blue piled in the realistic version you would have humans specefically trying to go out of their damn way to create war for resources especially in a world where all every 1 has ever known was war and prospered in what context yes the children of higher nations got better off but the children of lower nations lay their suffering madara was their hope madara is truly hope incarnate.

Also the 2nd point Adam at 1 point was perfect same with eve human nature was perfect at 1 point yet were all suffering cause of a fall the moon eye plan would help undo that suffering makes no sense why god could not commune with creation in dream he did it at babel