"No-fap: cope or not?" - reality check and debunking common misconceptions.

No bullshit breakdown of no-fap.

Hello everyone, this is my first post I'm doing in this format. Today I'll be covering the topic of no-fap since I see it floating around the forums a lot, yet very few
people actually have the right idea.


What is no-fap?

It means not beating your meat nigga :lul:

For real though, no-fap essentially means abstinence from masturbation over a prolonged period of time. I believe it became an actual thing around 2011 (judging from the creation date of the r/NoFap subreddit), but it started gaining real traction in recent years mostly due to countless redpilled self-proclaimed online gurus pushing it as the magical tool to fix all your problems in life.

They claim no-fap brings benefits such as:​
  • Increased testosterone​
  • Improving self-esteem​
  • Higher confidence​
  • More energy​
  • Better motivation​

Is it cope?

Yes and no. It is cope in the sense that most of the "benefits" listed above are either placebo or straight up non-existent. However it can still benefit some people in a few lesser-known ways I'll be discussing later on in the post.


When is it cope?
(+common misconceptions)


It is cope when you think it will give you superpowers, inhuman testosterone, or magically make you able to talk to women.
End of story.

Misconception 1: Increased testosterone.
"but muh test"

While not 100% false, the claims of increased levels of testosterone on no-fap are largely misleading.
Yes, stopping masturbation does increase testosterone, however it's a short-term effect. Upon starting no-fap you WILL experience a brief, maybe even noticeable increase in testosterone between the 4th and 7th day, but to the disappointment of no-fap advocates the levels quickly go back to baseline between the 10th and 12th day. It's not a magical sign from god to stop masturbating, it's your body's withdrawal symptoms. Think of it as of any other addiction or habit, if you have been masturbating for some time your body is used to the dopamine that comes with it, so once you stop for a few days your brain simply triggers the increase of testosterone in hopes of getting that dopamine again (higher test -> more libido -> beating your meat -> sweet sweet dopamine).

If you're looking for ACTUAL ways of increasing your testosterone I recommend you read this amazing widely-known thread
(or just pin test like any normal person:bigbrain:)



Misconception 2: Masturbation is bad.
"gooning=evil :feelsuhh:"

Another common misconception pushed by mainstream self-improvement coaches and the redpill community.
Masturbation is not inherently bad. It can be beneficial in moderation, but in extreme cases it can lead to several issues. It all depends on the context and frequency.

"How often can I beat my meat then?" - you may ask. Let me answer the question for you: do it as often as you want as long as you don't do it more than once a day, there are no adverse physiological side effects coming directly from stroking your shit once per day. The actual frequency varies from person to person and everyone is different. Personally I'd say the sweet spot is around 2x a week but you do you.

Potential benefits of masturbation:

1. Reduced risk of prostate cancer.


When ejaculating you're essentially flushing out your prostate gland, getting rid of potential cancer-causing agents.

2. Stress relief.

During an orgasm your body releases endorphins, dopamine, and oxytocin which simply speaking can help you relax and clear out your mind.

3. Potentially better stamina for fuckin'.

Due to the engagement of your pelvic floor muscles during masturbation you can technically do the same thing as you do in the gym and train the muscles, except this time you're training the ones responsible for getting your willy up. It can help achieve erections and keep them up for longer periods of time.

4. Increased sperm quality.
(only matters if you're trying to conceive, which let's not lie to ourselves - you're not)

Ejaculation causes your balls to get rid of old damaged sperm, helping you keep a fresh supply of brand-new cum for when trying for a baby.
(no further elaboration, this is an incel forum, you're not going to have a kid any time soon :incel:)


Potential risks (chronic gooners only):

1. Addiction.


Frequent masturbation can cause you to develop a habit, while it is 100% a mental addiction, not a physical one like with most substances you should still keep yourself in check. It's a lame ass thing to be addicted to and you'll just feel like more of a chud. Instead just do coke or something idc.

2. Fucking up your dopamine sensitivity.

As I had mentioned earlier, cumming releases dopamine, doing it too often can make your dopamine receptors less responsive and make you feel unmotivated, bored and lazy.

3. Prolactin increase (in edge case chronic gooners)

Now for the stuff that can really fuck you up: during an orgasm your body releases prolactin, it basically tells your body that the reproductive needs have been satisfied and to not be horny anymore. The spike is rather extreme, but temporary (you can often experience it in the form of post-nut clarity) usually lasting no more than about an hour. Temporary once a day spikes in prolactin cause no harm in men, however when jerking off 3-4x a day or more there can be some real issues. Frequent prolactin spikes in edge-case chronic gooners over a prolonged period of time (starting at about 3 days of jerkin' 4+ times a day) CAN and WILL cause hypogonadal-adjacent symptoms, such as: decreased sex drive, reduced spermatogenesis (less cum), GNrH suppression (lower test production), bloating, fat accumulation, gynecomastia (and in extreme cases even lactation), as well as psychological issues (depression, fatigue, irritability etc.).

Bottom line: unless you want to become a femboy/terachud limit your gooning sessions to no more than once a day.


Misconception 3: Being able to talk to women.

No-fap WON'T make you more social towards women. All the people claiming it helped them are either lying or delusional. It's entirely a placebo effect.
If you're a high-inhib shycel normally, it won't change when you stop fapping.


What actually helps you approach women:

1. Practice:
Stop being a bitch and do some cold approaches and don't treat women like aliens. If you notice a girl on the street and go up to talk her you're practicing your confidence. "But I'm a sub5 chud what if I get rejected?" - dude, if it's a random bitch what do you care if she rejects you, your life won't change in any meaningful way. Aside from gaining confidence and experience, by cold approaching several women a week based on their responses you're getting realistic data on what you can pull, and a realistic view of your SMV.

2. Drugs:
If you're a high-inhib antisocial retard you can always resort to alcohol, pregab, benzos or anything else that tickles your fancy and makes you more sociable.


Here's some useful guides on cold approaches and becoming more social:







Bonus section:
when no-fap ISN'T cope:


If you have a wife/girlfriend or engage in frequent intercourse - not only is masturbation redundant in this scenario, abstaining from it can make you have better sexual drive and have more satisfaction from actually fucking.

If your masturbation is accompanied by pornography - just fapping won't mess you up, porn will. It causes your brain to link porn to sexual pleasure so when it's time to fuck a bitch you might have trouble performing or even getting it up, especially if you've been jerking it to porn your whole life.
Some of my sources include:

I couldn't find some others as I split my research work on this post over 2 days, but come on, most of it is common sense:feelsez:


If you DNRd my post I still appreciate a little bump in the replies to spread the message,
and for those who actually read it: thank you, and I hope you got some valuable info from this post.
 
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Nutting every 1-2 weeks is optimal
 
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DNR and am still gonna goon
 
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can you guys stop making shitty guides that have been covered 1000x times
 
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seems AI + mirin + water + will read
 
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This has been an interesting one, I agree with most of it even tho I don't masturbate
But I hope both of us are aware that easily 90% of the people that actually masturbates always use media most of the time. I feel like someone who has been masturbating since around age 13, especially in a context where it is typically accompanied by exposure to content, might benefit from abandoning the habit. This is mainly because all those stimuli, when you start masturbating at an early age, are often linked to the temptation to consume pornography and that’s where all the scientific backing comes in, and vice versa...
 
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This has been an interesting one, I agree with most of it even tho I don't masturbate
But I hope both of us are aware that easily 90% of the people that actually masturbates always use media most of the time. I feel like someone who has been masturbating since around age 13, especially in a context where it is typically accompanied by exposure to content, might benefit from abandoning the habit. This is mainly because all those stimuli, when you start masturbating at an early age, are often linked to the temptation to consume pornography and that’s where all the scientific backing comes in, and vice versa...
Valid take. The post mainly focuses on straight up masturbation without any media, but it's true that pornography often accompanies masturbation and both are usually inseparable for most people.
 
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The real question is why would you masturbate and make your brain believe, after the chemical release, that you had sex, while in reality you’re just by yourself rubbing your penis? masturbation is neither "good" like you say nor bad but its useless.

Go talk to real women and use that energy on a woman or else on your goals. A man doesn’t need to be an ejaculation machine. We have a penis to use it with a woman, not to fake ejaculation and tell ourselves that we deserve it.

And understanding this and not gooning for no reason is the real benefit of "nofap". It’s going to make you into a real man because the energy in your nuts is so powerful that you can move mountains with it. Remember that with that nut you can create a full-grown human being so imagine if you preserve it for your goals or for a vagina..
 

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