None of you goyslop addicted copers can debunk carnivore. [ MEGATHREAD ]

[kazama]

I have Balkan Turk ancestry as well. My family there has multiple people who are 6'7" to 6'8". They eat raw meat and organs since generations. The average height of them is probably about 6'3", though.I'm not saying it's all because of their diet, but this was at least one of the factors that separated them from 5'9" mainland Turks.

Without a doubt the diet.

 

[kurd]

I'll get clowned so hard for following a ''dumbass tiktok trend'' cus raw meat got popularised there to tiktokcels aka everyone

U can always tell them a excuse, say that your family switched to carnivore and u have to do it cus of them

 

[IraniancelV2]

U can always tell them a excuse, say that your family switched to carnivore and u have to do it cus of them

I would just say in my family we eat this since many generations.

 

[kurd]

I wanna start being carnivore too,

But sadly my kurdish family is bluepilled and think anyone who eats raw meat is a disgusting animal. Not sure what i could do here..

 

[KeepCopingLads]

U can always tell them a excuse, say that your family switched to carnivore and u have to do it cus of them

Not believable cus I'm Afghan
Afghans cook their meat thoroughly, never raw, I'll only eat raw meat once I move out, I don't need negative family reputation

 

[kurd]

Not believable cus I'm Afghan
Afghans cook their meat thoroughly, never raw, I'll only eat raw meat once I move out, I don't need negative family reputation

Same

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Same

Raw meat looks yummy as well, even though cook taste better

 

[IraniancelV2]

I wanna start being carnivore too,

But sadly my kurdish family is bluepilled and think anyone who eats raw meat is a disgusting animal. Not sure what i could do here..

Just cook

 

[kurd]

Just cook

I don’t even know how to make a omelet bro

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Just cook

Worth it to bring cooked liver as part of my school lunch? Steak kinda expensive
Heart and liver.

 

[kurd]

Also OP what organs are the easiest and best to eat?

im talking about should it be steak/liver idk i heard about ground fed beef alot

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Also OP what organs are the easiest and best to eat?

im talking about should it be steak/liver idk i heard about ground fed beef alot

Wdym easiest
And by best imma assume you mean nutrients, organs>>> muscle in terms of nutrients

 

[IraniancelV2]

Also OP what organs are the easiest and best to eat?

im talking about should it be steak/liver idk i heard about ground fed beef alot

Liver seems like the best, though eating a variety is obviously the optimal way to go about things

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Liver seems like the best

Heart and liver top ten 10 duo
Best buddies

 

[kurd]

Heart and liver top ten 10 duo
Best buddies

Damn wtf heart seems scary to eat Jfl

 

[kurd]

Wdym easiest
And by best imma assume you mean nutrients, organs>>> muscle in terms of nutrients

And what organs do you eat most of the time?

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Damn wtf heart seems scary to eat Jfl

It isn't dw

 

[KeepCopingLads]

And what organs do you eat most of the time?

Liver, recently started trying heart
Liver is in Afghan cuisine so I've been eating that for years

 

[kazama]

Isn’t gluconeogenesis understood by evolutionists to be a consequence of humans needing it to survive as large sums of proteins were all they could find at the time and consequently the others died?

Anyway, my point was, surely that is your body’s, consequential, last resort of survival if history has shown so? Your body must be in a stressed state as you undergo it. I suppose milk has plenty of carbohydrates in it since you permit dairy so that solves it.

I understand ur point and thats exactly what I follow.
u dont need to copy exactly what ur ancestors did. Bc they had a lower iq, they were more instinctive than reasoning (we were in constant stress. We were practically primitive animals)
Idont see any problem with carbohydrates. As long as Im not obese,
Its very simple. Avoid antinutrients, bc they literally want to fuck u over. And other shit like that, just the essentials.
I don't like to use ancestors from 10,000 years ago as an example. Natural selection acted as such back then
I don't like "man made" criticism. You should be proud that ur species created something, we are gods (Not like that. A little too exalted)
Just understand the limit. Foods of animal origin are naturally part of our diet, we r omnivorous
But exclude vegetables. If u only ate based on nutrient bioavailability and avoided antinutrients, u'd see that I always stuck to just one food selection.

 

[KeepCopingLads]

I understand ur point and thats exactly what I follow.
u dont need to copy exactly what ur ancestors did. Bc they had a lower iq, they were more instinctive than reasoning (we were in constant stress. We were practically primitive animals)
Idont see any problem with carbohydrates. As long as Im not obese,
Its very simple. Avoid antinutrients, bc they literally want to fuck u over. And other shit like that, just the essentials.
I don't like to use ancestors from 10,000 years ago as an example. Natural selection acted as such back then
I don't like "man made" criticism. You should be proud that ur species created something, we are gods (Not like that. A little too exalted)
Just understand the limit. Foods of animal origin are naturally part of our diet, we r omnivorous
But exclude vegetables. If u only ate based on nutrient bioavailability and avoided antinutrients, u'd see that I always stuck to just one food selection.

I like human progression
Went from eating putting rocks on sticks to putting shit in space
Shit is genuinely beautiful
I love how we fucked fruits over by selectively breeding them into genetic fucks

 

[kurd]

I like human progression
Went from eating putting rocks on sticks to putting shit in space
Shit is genuinely beautiful
I love how we fucked fruits over by selectively breeding them into genetic fucks

 

[kazama]

I like human progression
Went from eating putting rocks on sticks to putting shit in space
Shit is genuinely beautiful
I love how we fucked fruits over by selectively breeding them into genetic fucks

Idk if that was sarcasm. But if uve never had a harvest, I recommend u research it Those bad fruits come from some obese billionaire businessman who doesnt care abt ur health. Our ancestors selected foods and modified them. And these are no longer the same today. And weve done the same with animals. This doesntjust apply to fruits or vegetables; weve created animal species just to have better quality meat
This is one of my criticisms of these super extreme vegans or carnivores. They just dont understand that their meat/plant was selected lol and it wasnt by nature.

 

[kurd]

Idk if that was sarcasm. But if uve never had a harvest, I recommend u research it Those bad fruits come from some obese billionaire businessman who doesnt care abt ur health. Our ancestors selected foods and modified them. And these are no longer the same today. And weve done the same with animals. This doesntjust apply to fruits or vegetables; weve created animal species just to have better quality meat
This is one of my criticisms of these super extreme vegans or carnivores. They just dont understand that their meat/plant was selected lol and it wasnt by nature.

@Clavicular

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Idk if that was sarcasm. But if uve never had a harvest, I recommend u research it Those bad fruits come from some obese billionaire businessman who doesnt care abt ur health. Our ancestors selected foods and modified them. And these are no longer the same today. And weve done the same with animals. This doesntjust apply to fruits or vegetables; weve created animal species just to have better quality meat
This is one of my criticisms of these super extreme vegans or carnivores. They just dont understand that their meat/plant was selected lol and it wasnt by nature.

Yh selectively modified for taste
Sheep, wool
Cows, milk production
But I think the worst damage has been done to fruits compared to animals

 

[kurd]

Yh selectively modified for taste
Sheep, wool
Cows, milk production
But I think the worst damage has been done to fruits compared to animals

 

[KeepCopingLads]

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@Clavicular

 

[gooner23]

you can always supplement if you know what your missing thats why any diet in reality should work, people overthink diet way too much

 

[luca_.]

This shit is worse than the Charlie Kirk and abortion debates

 

[KeepCopingLads]

you can always supplement if you know what your missing thats why any diet in reality should work, people overthink diet way too much

I remember reading a thread on why supplements are bad
(Forgot it so find it yourself) (I remember the user tho so wait)
Edit: @KindMaster1

 

[luca_.]

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@Clavicular put us on the drip don’t gatekeep

 

[kazama]

Yh selectively modified for taste
Sheep, wool
Cows, milk production
But I think the worst damage has been done to fruits compared to animals

The fact that ppl dont have access to raw milk is already a problem.
Animes from big retailers are big soy foods
They just go for the easy stuff. And of course the fruits were much more affected lol, u can plant them in larger quantities and yield a little more
But look at the nutritional difference of certain fruits over time
The production of a large producer is completely different from that of a small one. And Im not going to criticize, lol, the small producer can lose everything with an infestation.
It will depend much more on the season, climate, etc...

@Clavicular

@Clavicular

Why r u guys tagging him???

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Why r u guys tagging him???

Keep delaying his surgeries

 

[luca_.]

People who actually think carnivore diet is shit are braindead. I’ve been living on a few slices of bread and some blueberries for the most days and I’m perfectly healthy (I hope)

 

[kazama]

Keep delaying his surgeries

@Clavicular how much per hour will u charge after ur transition?

 

[gooner23]

I remember reading a thread on why supplements are bad
(Forgot it so find it yourself) (I remember the user tho so wait)
Edit: @KindMaster1

if it has anything to do with purity or absorption i wouldn't worry about it if you know what your doing and not buying the cheapest shit you can find cause some things are formulated specifically for absorption.

can't really take the tagged dude seriously just skimming through his post history but maybe there is a perfect diet but the diet is just marginally better than any other diet. if your taking steroids or peptides i think safety of supplements is the least of your worries

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Fiber is useless, it can't be digested by the human body and leads to constipation and bloat.

"But it's good to treat constipation!"

Yet this actual scientific study isolating variables found the exact opposite:

Spoiler

Stopping or reducing dietary fiber intake reduces constipation and its associated symptoms - PMC

AIM: To investigate the effect of reducing dietary fiber on patients with idiopathic constipation. METHODS: Sixty-three cases of idiopathic constipation presenting between May 2008 and May 2010 were enrolled into the study after colonoscopy excluded ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"In our recent study, patients who followed a diet with no or less dietary fiber intake showed a significant improvement, not just in their constipation, but also in their bloatedness. Patients who completely stopped consuming dietary fiber no longer suffered from abdominal bloatedness and pain"​

Yet this poorly designed scientific study confirm my stupid opinion (instead of looking at meta analysis and studies with a perfectly study designs, i will just this to justify my beliefs)

This study has not even a abstract available on pubmed This show on how signifiant garbage this study itself is

Ok lets grab the real scientific studies

Is dietary fibre truly protective against colon cancer? A systematic review and meta-analysis - PubMed

Colorectal cancer is the third most common cancer worldwide. Growing evidence shows that about 47% of cases of colorectal cancer can be prevented by a healthy lifestyle. We performed a systematic review and meta-analysis aimed to evaluate the association between dietary fibre intake and the risk...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://2024.sci-hub.se/6703/a430d55d86eec66235ae594b624f36e5/gianfredi2018.pdf

I cannot copy the conclusion so just use this imagine + blaablaaablaaa

Big meta analysis of 21 studies show that dietary fiber decrease the risk of colon cancer with multiple reasons

Eat you fiber kids, colon cancer is each year increasing…..

Spoiler: Other fantastic health benefits of fiber (A decrease of metabolic discorders, diabetes! And more fantastic things!!!!!!

peep poop

The health benefits of dietary fiber: beyond the usual suspects of type 2 diabetes mellitus, cardiovascular disease and colon cancer. - Consensus

Key takeaway: 'Dietary fiber helps prevent and mitigate diseases like type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and colon cancer, and may also improve mood and memory.'

consensus.app

The Health Benefits of Dietary Fibre - Consensus

Key takeaway: 'Optimizing dietary fiber intake in modern diets can improve metabolic and overall health, with gut microflora playing a key role in these benefits.'

consensus.app

Fiber and Prebiotics: Mechanisms and Health Benefits - Consensus

Key takeaway: 'Dietary fiber and prebiotics both contribute to gut health and cardiovascular disease prevention by promoting beneficial gut bacteria and promoting overall gut health.'

consensus.app

Dietary fibre in gastrointestinal health and disease - Consensus

Key takeaway: 'Dietary fibers, found in whole foods, can improve gastrointestinal health and help manage gastrointestinal disorders.'

consensus.app

Importance and Roles of Fiber in the Diet - Consensus

Key takeaway: 'Dietary fiber improves gut health, reduces inflammation, and promotes weight loss, while also preventing colon cancer and promoting healthy lipid profiles.'

consensus.app

Benefits of dietary fiber in clinical nutrition. - Consensus

Key takeaway: 'Dietary fiber blends from multiple sources may provide greater benefits in clinical nutrition, including bowel function, gut health, immunity, blood glucose control, and serum lipid levels.'

consensus.app

Effects of Dietary Fiber and Its Components on Metabolic Health - Consensus

Key takeaway: 'Dietary fiber and whole grains are linked to reduced risk of obesity, type 2 diabetes, cancer, and cardiovascular disease, potentially due to changes in intestinal viscosity, nutrient absorption, and gut hormone production.'

consensus.app

Fiber prevent and mitigate disseases like diabetes, cardiovascular disseases and colon caner and may also improve mood and memory

Optimizing fiber intake improve metabolic and overal health, with gut microflora playing a key role

Fiber and prebiotics both contribute to a healthy gut and prevent cardiosvascular disseases

Fiber improve gut health, reduces inflamtation, and promotes weight loss while also preventing colon cancer and promoting healthy lipid profiles

Fiber found in whole foods improve gastriontestinal health and manage gastiontestinal discorders

Fiber provide many benefits including bowel function, gut health, immunity, blood glucose control, and serum lipid levels.

Fiber lowers blood cholesyerol levels, promote normal laxation and help treats and prevent obesity

fiber and grains are linked to reduced risk of obesity, type 2 diabetes, cancer, and cardiovascular disease, potentially due to changes in intestinal viscosity, nutrient absorption, and gut hormone production

Explanation: https://looksmax.org/threads/stop-c...-carbohydrate-addiction.1399204/post-20299050

(now looking at it better, you qoute (21) is linked to this study, so i will debunk this one since many pseudoscientist carnivores believe that fiber don”t decrease the chances of colon cancers, the constiptation myth got debunked in the blue box above..)

oooohhhh— look what i found, i am blushing about all that scientific date

https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/10/3209

To conclude, much evidence supports an important role for dietary fibre intake as a contributor to overall metabolic health, through key pathways that include insulin sensitivity. Furthermore, there are clear associations between dietary fibre intake and multiple pathologies that include cardiovascular disease, colonic health, gut motility and risk for CRC. Dietary fibre intake also correlates with mortality. The gut microflora functions as an important mediator of the beneficial effects of dietary fibre, including the regulation of appetite and metabolic processes and chronic inflammatory pathways.

Dietary fiber has a ton of health benefits

Plants are missing 15 micro nutrients that are all found in meat. Some plants can contain insufficient trace amounts of a few of these nutrients, often due to bacteria or similar sources. But generally, they lack these 15 essential micro nutrients in sufficient quantities needed for optimal health and development.
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Meat is missing vitamin C, vitamin E, vitamin K, magnesium , fiber , antioxidants, phytochemicals and much more

Also don”t downplay the effect on antioxidants

The importance of antioxidants and place in today’s scientific and technological studies - PMC

Antioxidants have become scientifically interesting compounds due to their many benefits such as anti-aging and anti-inflammatory. Today, it is still used in many areas. In food technology, antioxidants are added to many foodstuffs in order to ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

As a result, all studies on antioxidants show that antioxidants have always maintained their place in scientific studies from past to present, and that the search for natural resources has always continued. Antioxidants have become very popular in addition to enriching foods, stabilization, bad taste and deodorization, in the technological fields such as encapsulation, edible film and packaging, in vivo studies in animals and plants. Thus, antioxidants have always make an indelible impression in areas such as especially food, cosmetics, pharmacology and medicine. As it can be understood from the studies, the daily intake of natural antioxidant sources is very important in the prevention of oxidative stress, since it has many positive effects on our health.

Look at the tables of this article to see all the massive amount of positive effects that anti antioxidants provide our body


In additionally. I don”t get you point, no one suggesting a strict vegetarian diet. no expert is suggesting that

Most experts recommend a mediterranean diet, and that we are evolutionary a omnivore that thrive on fruit, meat and vegetables

Goitrogens in broccoli can negatively impact brain development:

Spoiler

Role of goitrogens in iodine deficiency disorders & brain development - PubMed

Although iodine deficiency has primarily been implicated in the causation of goitre, the significant role played by food goitrogens in the etiology of iodine deficiency disorder (IDD) is being increasingly recognized. Impaired brain development is the major cause of concern in IDD. Detailed...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Lectins inhibit nutrient absorption, thus leading to nutrient deficiencies:

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Lectins • The Nutrition Source

Lectins, or hemagglutinins, are an “anti-nutrient” that have received much attention due to popular media and fad diet books citing lectins as a major cause

nutritionsource.hsph.harvard.edu

Lectins in plants may contribute to autoimmune diseases:

Spoiler

From inflammation to immune regulation: The dual nature of dietary lectins in health and disease

Beans, vegetables, fruits, and mushrooms offer a delightful array of fragrances and an abundance of nutrients, including essential vitamins, minerals,…

www.sciencedirect.com

Trypsin inhibitors in soybeans and legumes can reduce protein digestibility by up to 50% and protein quality by up to 100%:

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Impact of antinutritional factors in food proteins on the digestibility of protein and the bioavailability of amino acids and on protein quality - PubMed

Dietary antinutritional factors have been reported to adversely affect the digestibility of protein, bioavailability of amino acids and protein quality of foods. Published data on these negative effects of major dietary antinutritional factors are summarized in this manuscript. Digestibility and...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Estrogenic activity of your "healthy" antioxidants:

Spoiler

Risks and safety of polyphenol consumption - PubMed

This article gives an overview of the potential hazards of polyphenol consumption, as reported during the round-table discussion at the 1st International Conference on Polyphenols and Health, held in Vichy, France, November 2003. Adverse effects of polyphenols have been evaluated primarily in...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

80% of kidney stones are caused by oxalates:

Spoiler

Strategies for preventing calcium oxalate stones - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

75% of calcium in spinach is not bioavailable due to oxalates:

Spoiler

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12810415//

Conversion of beta-carotene to vitamin A is inefficient:

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The challenge to reach nutritional adequacy for vitamin A: β-carotene bioavailability and conversion—evidence in humans

β-Carotene is an important dietary source of vitamin A for humans. However, the bioavailability and vitamin A equivalency of β-carotene are highly var…

www.sciencedirect.com

ALA (Plant-Based Omega-3) conversion to DHA is below 5%:

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Efficiency of conversion of alpha-linolenic acid to long chain n-3 fatty acids in man - PubMed

Alpha-linolenic acid (18:3n-3) is the major n-3 (omega 3) fatty acid in the human diet. It is derived mainly from terrestrial plant consumption and it has long been thought that its major biochemical role is as the principal precursor for long chain polyunsaturated fatty acids, of which...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Plant proteins have lower bioavailability and contain anti-nutrients that hinder nutrient absorption:

Spoiler

Protein Nutrition: Understanding Structure, Digestibility, and Bioavailability for Optimal Health - PMC

This review discusses different protein sources and their role in human nutrition, focusing on their structure, digestibility, and bioavailability. Plant-based proteins, such as those found in legumes, nuts, and seeds, may contain anti-nutritional ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

i am laughing so hard omgggg

In many large population studies, lectin-containing foods like legumes, whole grains, and nuts are associated with intentional weight loss and lower rates of cardiovascular disease and type 2 diabetes. [8-11] These foods are rich sources of B vitamins, protein, fiber, and minerals, and healthy fats. Thus, the health benefits of consuming these foods far outweigh the potential harm of lectins in these foods.

Nigga you own sources don”t agree with you

Ok enough laughing , i am not gonna debunk the rest of you studies since. this whole thing will turn into a comedy show if i do that.

This is my own words..

You don”t get the whole concept

Those “anti nutrients” in vegetables their quantity is too low to make a reasonable impact to the body

Vegetables and fruit are very nutrient dense, so even if an anti nutrient bind to a nutrient, you will still get the other high amount of nutrients that is available in fruit and vegetables. It’s not a big deal. You will still get a net positive of nutrients

My third point is, If you cook you vegetables, all of the anti nutrients will go away

Ok , saarr i am gay saaar!!!!!!!!

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Ok now before i gonna debunk his another point. I will show all the studies about the positive effects of fruit and vegetables

All of them are meta analysis, the highest kind of study in the hierachy

Fruit and Vegetable Intake and Mortality: Results from Two Prospective Cohort Studies of US Men and Women and a Meta-Analysis of 26 Cohort Studies - PMC

Optimal intake levels of fruit and vegetables for maintaining long-term health is uncertain. We followed 66,719 women from the Nurses’ Health Study (1984-2014) and 42,016 men from the Health Professionals Follow-up Study (1986-2014) who were free ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Higher intakes of fruit and vegetable were associated with lower mortality; the risk reduction plateaued at approximately 5 servings of fruit and vegetables per day. These findings support current dietary recommendations to increase intake of fruits and vegetables, but not fruit juices and potatoes.

Dose-response association between fruit and vegetable intake and mortality in the Nurses’ Health Study and the Health Professionals Follow-Up Study. (A) Dose-response associations of combined fruit and vegetable intake with total and cause-specific mortality. (B) Dose-response associations of fruit intake with total and cause-specific mortality. (C) Dose-response associations of vegetable intake with total and cause-specific mortality.

Fruit and vegetable consumption and mortality from all causes, cardiovascular disease, and cancer: systematic review and dose-response meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies - PubMed

This meta-analysis provides further evidence that a higher consumption of fruit and vegetables is associated with a lower risk of all cause mortality, particularly cardiovascular mortality.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This meta-analysis provides further evidence that a higher consumption of fruit and vegetables is associated with a lower risk of all cause mortality, particularly cardiovascular mortality.

Health effects associated with vegetable consumption: a Burden of Proof study - PubMed

Previous research suggests a protective effect of vegetable consumption against chronic disease, but the quality of evidence underlying those findings remains uncertain. We applied a Bayesian meta-regression tool to estimate the mean risk function and quantify the quality of evidence for...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Big super duper mega cool conclusion: Fruits and vegetables improve your health. Woww!! I did not expect that at all……

Basically: Your body creates enough carbs to thrive on its own trough gluconeogenesis.

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Yes carbs are so important, you body will make them if you don”t eat them

Gluconeogenesis is not efficient metabolic process, which is a another story that i will tell in the future

"But I go to the gym, I need carbs!"

You don't need to do 5 sets of 20 of squats, just do low volume high intensity. If you still feel the need for carbs after fixing your sleep schedule and a few weeks of ketosis, go ahead and eat some fruit for carbs. You don't need to do everything perfect or 100% similar to our ancestors. My point is, that even imitating the most natural diet as close as possible for your life circumstances is superior to goyslop.





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So you solution is….. to sport less?

#goatis

You can not debunk carnivore

Spoiler: Thread theme

The vast majority of this forum consists of peptide copers who are also addicted to goyslop, but then seriously suggest the natural human diet is inferior to the unnatural dysgenic modern diet.

Before you bombard me with logical fallacies, read my statement at the bottom. Failing to do so means you concede the argument!

Just think from a logical perspective: Do you really think the diet humans naturally adapted to eat for over 100.000 years is unhealthier than the modern diet causing malocclusion, narrow palates, crooked teeth and many more health problems?

The last ice age was about 110.000-10.000 years ago. 99% of plants you consume would not have been available at this time. Keep in mind most plants we consume don't exist in nature. Research supporting this:

Spoiler: Stable isotope study

https://www.reuters.com/science/mammoths-topped-menu-north-american-ice-age-people-2024-12-04/

The whole isotype argument, makes no sense but to be honest i need to do something else. I will debunk it later in the future

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Other points ……

SUGAR, IGF-1, MTOR - optimising glucose for max growth? INFO

SUGAR, IGF-1, MTOR sugar diet, pablo diet, etc etc. HERES THE INFO DUMP HOW DOES IGF-1 WORK ALONGSIDE INSULIN? 1. Insulin indirectly increases IGF-1 via GH (Growth Hormone) signalling GH stimulates IGF-1, mostly in the liver GH needs insulin to do this In low-insulin states (fasting...

looksmax.org

Overall high glycemic load during times of growth = taller, wider, bigger (PUBERTYCELS GIH)

“Chad eats candy and icecream everyday and is 6’3 with a 25inch bideltoid and has fucked loads of women” Many ppl say something along the lines of this to combat the idea diet can “improve your aesthetics”. The problem with this is that “Chad’s” diet consists of “candy and icecream” which of...

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Carbs are critical for puberty growth. Not eating carbs will suppress that growth

Red Meat and Colorectal Cancer - PMC

Colorectal cancer (CRC) is the third most common cancer in men and the second in women worldwide. More than half of cases occur in more developed countries. The consumption of red meat (beef, pork, lamb, veal, mutton) is high in developed countries ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

As a conclusion, accumulated evidence of prospective epidemiological studies and their meta-analyses shows that red meat and processed meat convincingly increases CRC risk by 20-30%. Regarding specific red meat subtypes, the association with increased risk was found for beef consumption in two trials (one of them is weakly associated), for pork consumption in three trials and for lamb intake in one trial. An interesting observation is the existence of this risk only for pork intake and rectum cancer and lamb intake and colon cancer, respectively in one trial. Beef and pork consumption was found also to be associated with colon cancer only in women, in one trial. Whether CRC is one disease or the existence of 2 categories of CRC (colon and rectum or proximal and distal or right and left colon) and the link between etiologic factors and molecular subtypes are another hot topics of discussion, which need further investigations.

red meat is linked to colorectal cancer

Meta-Analysis of Randomized Controlled Trials of Red Meat Consumption in Comparison With Various Comparison Diets on Cardiovascular Risk Factors - PubMed

Inconsistencies regarding the effects of red meat on cardiovascular disease risk factors are attributable, in part, to the composition of the comparison diet. Substituting red meat with high-quality plant protein sources, but not with fish or low-quality carbohydrates, leads to more favorable...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Inconsistencies regarding the effects of red meat on cardiovascular disease risk factors are attributable, in part, to the composition of the comparison diet. Substituting red meat with high-quality plant protein sources, but not with fish or low-quality carbohydrates, leads to more favorable changes in blood lipids and lipoproteins.

Eating red meat increases your risk of cardiovascular disease.”

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Yet this poorly designed scientific study confirm my stupid opinion (instead of looking at meta analysis and studies with a perfectly study designs, i will just this to justify my beliefs)

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This study has not even a abstract available on pubmed This show on how signifiant garbage this study itself is

Ok lets grab the real scientific studies

Is dietary fibre truly protective against colon cancer? A systematic review and meta-analysis - PubMed

Colorectal cancer is the third most common cancer worldwide. Growing evidence shows that about 47% of cases of colorectal cancer can be prevented by a healthy lifestyle. We performed a systematic review and meta-analysis aimed to evaluate the association between dietary fibre intake and the risk...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://2024.sci-hub.se/6703/a430d55d86eec66235ae594b624f36e5/gianfredi2018.pdf

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I cannot copy the conclusion so just use this imagine + blaablaaablaaa

Big meta analysis of 21 studies show that dietary fiber decrease the risk of colon cancer with multiple reasons

Eat you fiber kids, colon cancer is each year increasing…..

View attachment 4059353

Spoiler: Other fantastic health benefits of fiber (A decrease of metabolic discorders, diabetes! And more fantastic things!!!!!!

peep poop

The health benefits of dietary fiber: beyond the usual suspects of type 2 diabetes mellitus, cardiovascular disease and colon cancer. - Consensus

Key takeaway: 'Dietary fiber helps prevent and mitigate diseases like type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and colon cancer, and may also improve mood and memory.'

consensus.app

The Health Benefits of Dietary Fibre - Consensus

Key takeaway: 'Optimizing dietary fiber intake in modern diets can improve metabolic and overall health, with gut microflora playing a key role in these benefits.'

consensus.app

Fiber and Prebiotics: Mechanisms and Health Benefits - Consensus

Key takeaway: 'Dietary fiber and prebiotics both contribute to gut health and cardiovascular disease prevention by promoting beneficial gut bacteria and promoting overall gut health.'

consensus.app

Dietary fibre in gastrointestinal health and disease - Consensus

Key takeaway: 'Dietary fibers, found in whole foods, can improve gastrointestinal health and help manage gastrointestinal disorders.'

consensus.app

Importance and Roles of Fiber in the Diet - Consensus

Key takeaway: 'Dietary fiber improves gut health, reduces inflammation, and promotes weight loss, while also preventing colon cancer and promoting healthy lipid profiles.'

consensus.app

Benefits of dietary fiber in clinical nutrition. - Consensus

Key takeaway: 'Dietary fiber blends from multiple sources may provide greater benefits in clinical nutrition, including bowel function, gut health, immunity, blood glucose control, and serum lipid levels.'

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Effects of Dietary Fiber and Its Components on Metabolic Health - Consensus

Key takeaway: 'Dietary fiber and whole grains are linked to reduced risk of obesity, type 2 diabetes, cancer, and cardiovascular disease, potentially due to changes in intestinal viscosity, nutrient absorption, and gut hormone production.'

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Fiber prevent and mitigate disseases like diabetes, cardiovascular disseases and colon caner and may also improve mood and memory

Optimizing fiber intake improve metabolic and overal health, with gut microflora playing a key role

Fiber and prebiotics both contribute to a healthy gut and prevent cardiosvascular disseases

Fiber improve gut health, reduces inflamtation, and promotes weight loss while also preventing colon cancer and promoting healthy lipid profiles

Fiber found in whole foods improve gastriontestinal health and manage gastiontestinal discorders

Fiber provide many benefits including bowel function, gut health, immunity, blood glucose control, and serum lipid levels.

Fiber lowers blood cholesyerol levels, promote normal laxation and help treats and prevent obesity

fiber and grains are linked to reduced risk of obesity, type 2 diabetes, cancer, and cardiovascular disease, potentially due to changes in intestinal viscosity, nutrient absorption, and gut hormone production

Explanation: https://looksmax.org/threads/stop-c...-carbohydrate-addiction.1399204/post-20299050

(now looking at it better, you qoute (21) is linked to this study, so i will debunk this one since pseudoscientist carnivore groups believe that fiber don”t decrease the chances of colon cancers, the constiptation myth got debunked in the blue box above..)

oooohhhh— look what i found, i am blushing about all that scientific date

https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/10/3209

To conclude, much evidence supports an important role for dietary fibre intake as a contributor to overall metabolic health, through key pathways that include insulin sensitivity. Furthermore, there are clear associations between dietary fibre intake and multiple pathologies that include cardiovascular disease, colonic health, gut motility and risk for CRC. Dietary fibre intake also correlates with mortality. The gut microflora functions as an important mediator of the beneficial effects of dietary fibre, including the regulation of appetite and metabolic processes and chronic inflammatory pathways.

Dietary fiber decrease the risks / improve …. Read it

Meat is missing vitamin C, vitamin E, vitamin K, magnesium , fiber , antioxidants, phytochemicals and much more

Also don”t downplay the effect on antioxidants

The importance of antioxidants and place in today’s scientific and technological studies - PMC

Antioxidants have become scientifically interesting compounds due to their many benefits such as anti-aging and anti-inflammatory. Today, it is still used in many areas. In food technology, antioxidants are added to many foodstuffs in order to ...

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As a result, all studies on antioxidants show that antioxidants have always maintained their place in scientific studies from past to present, and that the search for natural resources has always continued. Antioxidants have become very popular in addition to enriching foods, stabilization, bad taste and deodorization, in the technological fields such as encapsulation, edible film and packaging, in vivo studies in animals and plants. Thus, antioxidants have always make an indelible impression in areas such as especially food, cosmetics, pharmacology and medicine. As it can be understood from the studies, the daily intake of natural antioxidant sources is very important in the prevention of oxidative stress, since it has many positive effects on our health.

Look at the tables of this article to see all the massive amount of positive effects that anti antioxidants provide our body


In additionally. I don”t get you point, no one suggesting a strict vegetarian diet. no expert is suggesting that

Most experts recommend a mediterranean diet, and that we are evolutionary a omnivore that thrive on fruit, meat and vegetables



i am laughing so hard omgggg
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In many large population studies, lectin-containing foods like legumes, whole grains, and nuts are associated with intentional weight loss and lower rates of cardiovascular disease and type 2 diabetes. [8-11] These foods are rich sources of B vitamins, protein, fiber, and minerals, and healthy fats. Thus, the health benefits of consuming these foods far outweigh the potential harm of lectins in these foods.

Nigga you own sources don”t agree with you

Ok enough laughing , i am not gonna debunk the rest of you studies since. this whole thing will turn into a comedy show if i do that. And i don”t want to disrespect you

This is my own words..

You don”t get the whole concept

Those “anti nutrients” in vegetables their quantity is too low to make a reasonable impact to the body

Vegetables and fruit are very nutrient dense, so even if an anti nutrient bind to a nutrient, you will still get the other high amount of nutrients that is available in fruit and vegetables. It’s not a big deal. You will still get a net positive of nutrients

My third point is, If you cook you vegetables, all of the anti nutrients will go away

Ok now before i gonna debunk his another point. I will show all the studies about the positive effects of fruit and vegetables

All of them are meta analysis, the highest kind of study in the hierachy
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Fruit and Vegetable Intake and Mortality: Results from Two Prospective Cohort Studies of US Men and Women and a Meta-Analysis of 26 Cohort Studies - PMC

Optimal intake levels of fruit and vegetables for maintaining long-term health is uncertain. We followed 66,719 women from the Nurses’ Health Study (1984-2014) and 42,016 men from the Health Professionals Follow-up Study (1986-2014) who were free ...

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Higher intakes of fruit and vegetable were associated with lower mortality; the risk reduction plateaued at approximately 5 servings of fruit and vegetables per day. These findings support current dietary recommendations to increase intake of fruits and vegetables, but not fruit juices and potatoes.
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Dose-response association between fruit and vegetable intake and mortality in the Nurses’ Health Study and the Health Professionals Follow-Up Study. (A) Dose-response associations of combined fruit and vegetable intake with total and cause-specific mortality. (B) Dose-response associations of fruit intake with total and cause-specific mortality. (C) Dose-response associations of vegetable intake with total and cause-specific mortality.

Fruit and vegetable consumption and mortality from all causes, cardiovascular disease, and cancer: systematic review and dose-response meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies - PubMed

This meta-analysis provides further evidence that a higher consumption of fruit and vegetables is associated with a lower risk of all cause mortality, particularly cardiovascular mortality.

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This meta-analysis provides further evidence that a higher consumption of fruit and vegetables is associated with a lower risk of all cause mortality, particularly cardiovascular mortality.

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Health effects associated with vegetable consumption: a Burden of Proof study - PubMed

Previous research suggests a protective effect of vegetable consumption against chronic disease, but the quality of evidence underlying those findings remains uncertain. We applied a Bayesian meta-regression tool to estimate the mean risk function and quantify the quality of evidence for...

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Big super duper mega cool conclusion: Fruits and vegetables improve your health. Woww!! I did not expect that at all……

Yes carbs are so important, you body will make them if you don”t eat them

Gluconeogenesis is not efficient metabolic process, which is a another story that i will tell in the future


So you solution is….. to sport less?
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#goatis

The whole isotype argument, makes no sense but to be honest i need to do something else. I will debunk it later in the future





Other points ……

SUGAR, IGF-1, MTOR - optimising glucose for max growth? INFO

SUGAR, IGF-1, MTOR sugar diet, pablo diet, etc etc. HERES THE INFO DUMP HOW DOES IGF-1 WORK ALONGSIDE INSULIN? 1. Insulin indirectly increases IGF-1 via GH (Growth Hormone) signalling GH stimulates IGF-1, mostly in the liver GH needs insulin to do this In low-insulin states (fasting...

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Overall high glycemic load during times of growth = taller, wider, bigger (PUBERTYCELS GIH)

“Chad eats candy and icecream everyday and is 6’3 with a 25inch bideltoid and has fucked loads of women” Many ppl say something along the lines of this to combat the idea diet can “improve your aesthetics”. The problem with this is that “Chad’s” diet consists of “candy and icecream” which of...

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Carbs are critical for puberty growth. Not eating carbs will suppress that growth

Red Meat and Colorectal Cancer - PMC

Colorectal cancer (CRC) is the third most common cancer in men and the second in women worldwide. More than half of cases occur in more developed countries. The consumption of red meat (beef, pork, lamb, veal, mutton) is high in developed countries ...

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As a conclusion, accumulated evidence of prospective epidemiological studies and their meta-analyses shows that red meat and processed meat convincingly increases CRC risk by 20-30%. Regarding specific red meat subtypes, the association with increased risk was found for beef consumption in two trials (one of them is weakly associated), for pork consumption in three trials and for lamb intake in one trial. An interesting observation is the existence of this risk only for pork intake and rectum cancer and lamb intake and colon cancer, respectively in one trial. Beef and pork consumption was found also to be associated with colon cancer only in women, in one trial. Whether CRC is one disease or the existence of 2 categories of CRC (colon and rectum or proximal and distal or right and left colon) and the link between etiologic factors and molecular subtypes are another hot topics of discussion, which need further investigations.

red meat is linked to colorectal cancer

Meta-Analysis of Randomized Controlled Trials of Red Meat Consumption in Comparison With Various Comparison Diets on Cardiovascular Risk Factors - PubMed

Inconsistencies regarding the effects of red meat on cardiovascular disease risk factors are attributable, in part, to the composition of the comparison diet. Substituting red meat with high-quality plant protein sources, but not with fish or low-quality carbohydrates, leads to more favorable...

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Inconsistencies regarding the effects of red meat on cardiovascular disease risk factors are attributable, in part, to the composition of the comparison diet. Substituting red meat with high-quality plant protein sources, but not with fish or low-quality carbohydrates, leads to more favorable changes in blood lipids and lipoproteins.

Red meat increase the chances to having a cardiovascular disseases

@piec

 

[DR. NICKGA]

“Muhh muh fruits and vegetables are poison muhh anti nutritients muhh”

* shows 4 big meta analysis with 1000+ studies that destroy this argument*

@piec