None of you goyslop addicted copers can debunk carnivore. [ MEGATHREAD ]

[KeepCopingLads]

1 orange mogs

i like kiwis

 

[SlayerJonas]

Thank you for contributing, unlike the guy 2 posts above and 1 post below you.

It's sad that this is rare

What micronutrients did you have in mind here? I will have to respond later, I got to go do something now.

To update, there's nothing really missing in a carnivore diet if you consume dairy and supplements if really required .

I can understand that many people have a flawed perception of the ideal (relative) diet through social conditioning but they're ignorant .

Most minerals were covered with water intake in the past but even that was destroyed by the food industry creating an artifical problem / dependence on supplements .

If you consume dairy there's realistically no nutrient intake you have to fear, if there is there are always supplements . meat is the building block of the ideal diet, we construct the details (supplements, dairy, etc.) around meat not the other way around unlike what some people want to believe .

Great thread again

 

[IraniancelV2]

It's sad that this is rare

To update, there's nothing really missing in a carnivore diet if you consume dairy and supplements if really required .

I can understand that many people have a flawed perception of the ideal (relative) diet through social conditioning but they're ignorant .

Most minerals were covered with water intake in the past but even that was destroyed by the food industry creating an artifical problem / dependence on supplements .

I agree, didn't think about the water being different, but makes total sense.

If you consume dairy there's realistically no nutrient intake you have to fear, if there is there are always supplements . meat is the building block of the ideal diet, we construct the details (supplements, dairy, etc.) around meat not the other way around unlike what some people want to believe .

Good point, dairy might be better than I previously thought

Great thread again

Thank you

 

[piec]

To update, there's nothing really missing in a carnivore diet if you consume dairy and supplements if really required

what does it matter if theres nothing missing? every single type of diet can have nothing missing this is the 21st fucking century, supplements exist. this only applies to micronutrients as it obviously has carbohydrates and fiber missing which are necessery for optimal health and performance, especially if you are not a braindead lazy incel subhuman and do any kind of resistance training. it lacks in quantity several antioxidants and vitamins like carotenoids or vitamin e. its also packed with cholesterol which will literally kill you and AGE's which lead to premature aging. there is 0 reason to be on a carnivore diet unless you are an ideologically driven retard and want to own the joos

Great thread again

the thread is literal dogshit and you need to have a rock instead of a brain to glaze this cretin

 

[KeepCopingLads]

It's sad that this is rare

To update, there's nothing really missing in a carnivore diet if you consume dairy and supplements if really required .

I can understand that many people have a flawed perception of the ideal (relative) diet through social conditioning but they're ignorant .

Most minerals were covered with water intake in the past but even that was destroyed by the food industry creating an artifical problem / dependence on supplements .

If you consume dairy there's realistically no nutrient intake you have to fear, if there is there are always supplements . meat is the building block of the ideal diet, we construct the details (supplements, dairy, etc.) around meat not the other way around unlike what some people want to believe .

Great thread again

dairy and meat
what a duo really

 

[IraniancelV2]

out of curiosity i checked one of the studies, very first thing is some dogshit study with a laughable sample size of 50 that you somehow thinks proves wrong all meta analysises with sample sizes of tens of fucking thousands of people that have been reproduced hundred of times. you gotta be actually fucking kidding me

guess what you complete fucking retard, thats why meta analysis exist, because there are outlier studies on almost every fucking subject, especially if you make them dogshit and small enough

So a study isolating variables is somehow completely irrelevant because of a sample size that isn't in the tousands?

You saying there are meta analysis with tens of thousands of people as sample size is hilarious for two reasons.

1: You did not link them

2: Having a sample size of tens of thousands of people leads me to believe these are either self reported and/or

But look at this epidemiology study bro!!

"Taking more than 50 people in this study, and having constipation and bloating resolved by eliminating fiber whilst controlling for variables actually means nothing, because there are many studies that say something else, that I do not link!"

Insulting is not helping you win this debate.

and this is only talking about the introduction of one single study, not even going through all of it. are you seeing now how brutal for non mouth-drooling tier retards brandolinis law is?

Implying the other studies are bad without going through them, jfl.

You bringing up the brandolinis law is an arguably valid reason to not indulge with this post, but it's not a reasonable argument against my points. You're essentially just calling me stupid without arguing.

And still..

You can not debunk carnivore

Go after the logical reasoning and actual arguments if you disagree. Trying to use ad hominem or a straw man won't work here. Be better. Let's see how many "people" still bring make use of these. ​

 

[IraniancelV2]

what does it matter if theres nothing missing? every single type of diet can have nothing missing this is the 21st fucking century, supplements exist. this only applies to micronutrients as it obviously has carbohydrates and fiber missing which are necessery for optimal health and performance, especially if you are not a braindead lazy incel subhuman and do any kind of resistance training. it lacks in quantity several antioxidants and vitamins like carotenoids or vitamin e. its also packed with cholesterol which will literally kill you and AGE's which lead to premature aging. there is 0 reason to be on a carnivore diet unless you are an ideologically driven retard and want to own the joos


the thread is literal dogshit and you need to have a rock instead of a brain to glaze this cretin

JFL. You can't just claim that exogenous carbohydrates are essential when humans have been using ketosis as their primary energy source for 100.000+ years. I have a section about this in my thread, bow about you address my argument instead of claiming something without any logical reasoning.

You are also implying, that you can't work out in ketosis. You also ignored the gymcel section I made in my thread.

At least read my thread before commenting.

Tell me the essential antioxidants that this diet lacks. Keep in mind running on gluconeogenesis is lower in oxidative stress. Beta-carotene is not an essential nutrient.

Only baseless claims. Tell me how our ancestors survived and reproduced without diabetes, heart disease, cancer and more for 100.000+ years without eating these toxic plants.

 

[SlayerJonas]

what does it matter if theres nothing missing? every single type of diet can have nothing missing this is the 21st fucking century, supplements exist.

You are projecting very hard here I simply stated what I stated don't interpret much, biology isn't philosophy .

I'm using supplements myself and leverage pharmacology

An almost entirely meat-based diet where you fuel your body with mostly amino acids and don't rape yourself with insulin spikes constantly is better . That's why we adapt the diet based on meat, not around whatever plant

this only applies to micronutrients as it obviously has carbohydrates and fiber missing which are necessery for optimal health and performance, especially if you are not a braindead lazy incel subhuman and do any kind of resistance training.

Carbs only matter in a pre-workout context for POWER input, not for hypertrophy training

Besides that your body uses gluconeogenesis if you don't eat carbs, this matters in the short and long-term

it lacks in quantity several antioxidants and vitamins like carotenoids or vitamin e.

Supplement for first one if there is really an important deficiency which I doubt, carotenoids are only needed for good looks which you can do with supplements also... no need to carrotmax

its also packed with cholesterol which will literally kill you and AGE's which lead to premature aging.

Ezetimibe

Reply to every point here or don't bother

dairy and meat
what a duo really

Great observation, dairy to make up for the lack of some micronutrients in this modern world .

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Great observation, dairy to make up for the lack of some micronutrients in this modern world .

yh like if you need vitamin k2, cheese
if you need calcium, milk
man i love dairy, tastes good as well

 

[KeepCopingLads]

@IraniancelV2 @SlayerJonas cant forget about fish tho, dha

 

[IraniancelV2]

Carbs only matter in a pre-workout context for POWER input, not for hypertrophy training

I literally have a section for this in my thread, which he either DNR or just ignored.

Besides that your body uses gluconeogenesis if you don't eat carbs, this matters in the short and long-term

The body prefers fat oxidation over carbs. Gluconeogenesis is always active, no matter the carbohydrate consumption.

Reply to every point here or don't bother

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

Get mogged by vegan chad >:3

 

[IraniancelV2]

Get mogged by vegan chad >:3

0:46 He already says "Influencers like Joe rogans who promote the carnivore diet".

Yeah pack it up

When I'm at my PC I will address the points in detail.

He lost all credibility when he said at 1:45 that 4chan invented the carnivore diet.
So the masai read 4chan to choose their diet? The inuits are 4chan chuds guys, wrap it up.

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

0:46 He already says "Influencers like hoe rogans who promote the carnivore diet".

Yeah pack it up

Did he not do carnivore for some time? I’m pretty sure he promotes meat consumption

 

[piec]

You are projecting very hard here I simply stated what I stated don't interpret much, biology isn't philosophy .

I'm using supplements myself and leverage pharmacology

An almost entirely meat-based diet where you fuel your body with mostly amino acids and don't rape yourself with insulin spikes constantly is better . That's why we adapt the diet based on meat, not around whatever plant

you literally fold on the very first point you absolute retard, now you claim its "meat based diet" instead of carnivore and try to play semantics

Carbs only matter in a pre-workout context for POWER input, not for hypertrophy training

wow really? do you think power input has nothing to do with hypertrophy

Supplement for first one if there is really an important deficiency which I doubt, carotenoids are only needed for good looks which you can do with supplements also... no need to carrotmax

"important deficiency". wow great job retard nobody disagrees u cant survive off the carnivore diet, so saying shit like this is just a baseless filler to make your argument look strong (remember team, more words = smarter). the site is called looksmax.org and to look the best the longest, you need the optimal or close to optimal diet which will provide you with said antioxidants and vitamins, which you obviously cant get in significant quantity from meat, but u will supplement, so yeah, with 30 supplements, a carnivore diet might actually work how does that make it better than an omnivore diet? gotta wonder

Ezetimibe

Reply to every point here or don't bother

obviously conveniently ignored AGE's but i guess the anti nootrients from plants are more harmful
(0 evidence for that unlike AGE's) i wonder if that would make the carnivore diet inferior

(inb4 some retard brings up some niche stomach condition that makes it harder to digest which 99% of the population doesnt suffer from)

 

[IraniancelV2]

Did he not do carnivore for some time? I’m pretty sure he promotes meat consumption

He promotes meat consumption but not the carnivore diet.

 

[SlayerJonas]

you literally fold on the very first point you absolute retard, now you claim its "meat based diet" instead of carnivore and try to play semantics

I stick to the truth and adapt based on it

I don't argue against you in the first place but you are so cortisol ridden and use insults like they mean anything

You're the one playing semantics then because I didn't care to use the proper term

wow really? do you think power input has nothing to do with hypertrophy

For hypertrophy no, but like OP says the body uses gluconeogenesis either way

obviously conveniently ignored AGE's but i guess the anti nootrients from plants are more harmful
(0 evidence for that unlike AGE's) i wonder if that would make the carnivore diet inferior

Never mentioned anti nutrients and I didn't look into AGEs yet, so why would I bring it up ?

Anyway good knowing you are a Polish bald subhuman with no future nor a good past so your life is enough of an insult

 

[IraniancelV2]

you literally fold on the very first point you absolute retard, now you claim its "meat based diet" instead of carnivore and try to play semantics

Except that carnivores don't have to exclusively eat meat, which was also stated earlier. Stop embarrassing yourself.

"important deficiency". wow great job retard nobody disagrees u cant survive off the carnivore diet, so saying shit like this is just a baseless filler to make your argument look strong (remember team, more words = smarter). the site is called looksmax.org and to look the best the longest, you need the optimal or close to optimal diet which will provide you with said antioxidants and vitamins, which you obviously cant get in significant quantity from meat, but u will supplement, so yeah, with 30 supplements, a carnivore diet might actually work how does that make it better than an omnivore diet? gotta wonder

You are just repeating yourself without addressing all points. Address all my points in my thread and responses to you. You also don't need supplements on the carnivore diet.

It's better because it has more nutrients and doesn't constantly spike your blood sugar. You run on gluconeogenesis and don't consume indigestible plant matter filled with toxins.

obviously conveniently ignored AGE's but i guess the anti nootrients from plants are more harmful
(0 evidence for that unlike AGE's) i wonder if that would make the carnivore diet inferior

Funny how you didn't address most points at all, didn't read my thread, and now you are complaining he didn't instantly respond to this? 0 evidence except I linked you multiple studies. JFL at you to tbh.

Regarding AGE's you sent no proof. Let me show you something instead: https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...324995787911&usg=AOvVaw13Jl-bVJiNLcClojd--Et9

 

[PrettyLights]

I think I might eat a carrot today. That's it

 

[piec]

For hypertrophy no, but like OP says the body uses gluconeogenesis either way

its hilarious how you think using pretty words like gluconeogenesis makes you knowledgable, especially when it has literally 0 to do with the argument that no carbs is inferior to eating carbs. i really wonder who are you trying to impress so hard

no top bodybuilder or athlete that is not a long distance runner or other variation of that is on the ketogenic diet for obvious reasons

Never mentioned anti nutrients

the thread does mention anti nootrients and you say the thread is good, obviously thus agreeing with OP. cant believe i have to explain shit like this to you

didn't look into AGEs yet, so why would I bring it up ?

because its part of the argument? you cant be serious

 

[lowiqcel__.]

i dont want to eat raw meat at school
negative reputation
any cooked meat that wont go bad by the time i eat it?

You can just take a bottle of raw milk thats what I'mma be doing and larping it as buttermilk since thats pretty nt here to consume

 

[fwhr glazer]

You can not debunk carnivore

Spoiler: Thread theme

The vast majority of this forum consists of peptide copers who are also addicted to goyslop, but then seriously suggest the natural human diet is inferior to the unnatural dysgenic modern diet.

Before you bombard me with logical fallacies, read my statement at the bottom. Failing to do so means you concede the argument!

Just think from a logical perspective: Do you really think the diet humans naturally adapted to eat for over 100.000 years is unhealthier than the modern diet causing malocclusion, narrow palates, crooked teeth and many more health problems?

The last ice age was about 110.000-10.000 years ago. 99% of plants you consume would not have been available at this time. Keep in mind most plants we consume don't exist in nature. Research supporting this:

Spoiler: Stable isotope study

https://www.reuters.com/science/mammoths-topped-menu-north-american-ice-age-people-2024-12-04/

Chapter 1:
Micro nutrients, fiber, and dangers of consuming plants.

Spoiler: Chapter 1

Meat has every single essential nutrient, without any anti nutrients or poisonous plant chemicals. Plants use these anti nutrientsto defend them selves from being eaten. Humans are not adapted to eat plants. Fiber is useless, it can't be digested by the human body and leads to constipation and bloat.

"But it's good to treat constipation!"

Yet this actual scientific study isolating variables found the exact opposite:

Spoiler

Stopping or reducing dietary fiber intake reduces constipation and its associated symptoms - PMC

AIM: To investigate the effect of reducing dietary fiber on patients with idiopathic constipation. METHODS: Sixty-three cases of idiopathic constipation presenting between May 2008 and May 2010 were enrolled into the study after colonoscopy excluded ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"In our recent study, patients who followed a diet with no or less dietary fiber intake showed a significant improvement, not just in their constipation, but also in their bloatedness. Patients who completely stopped consuming dietary fiber no longer suffered from abdominal bloatedness and pain"

"But plants are healthy and not poisonous, what are you talking about? They are full of essential vitamins! "
"But healthy antioxidants bro! "

Goitrogens in broccoli can negatively impact brain development:

Spoiler

Role of goitrogens in iodine deficiency disorders & brain development - PubMed

Although iodine deficiency has primarily been implicated in the causation of goitre, the significant role played by food goitrogens in the etiology of iodine deficiency disorder (IDD) is being increasingly recognized. Impaired brain development is the major cause of concern in IDD. Detailed...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Lectins inhibit nutrient absorption, thus leading to nutrient deficiencies:

Spoiler

Lectins • The Nutrition Source

Lectins, or hemagglutinins, are an “anti-nutrient” that have received much attention due to popular media and fad diet books citing lectins as a major cause

nutritionsource.hsph.harvard.edu

Lectins in plants may contribute to autoimmune diseases:

Spoiler

From inflammation to immune regulation: The dual nature of dietary lectins in health and disease

Beans, vegetables, fruits, and mushrooms offer a delightful array of fragrances and an abundance of nutrients, including essential vitamins, minerals,…

www.sciencedirect.com

Trypsin inhibitors in soybeans and legumes can reduce protein digestibility by up to 50% and protein quality by up to 100%:

Spoiler

Impact of antinutritional factors in food proteins on the digestibility of protein and the bioavailability of amino acids and on protein quality - PubMed

Dietary antinutritional factors have been reported to adversely affect the digestibility of protein, bioavailability of amino acids and protein quality of foods. Published data on these negative effects of major dietary antinutritional factors are summarized in this manuscript. Digestibility and...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Estrogenic activity of your "healthy" antioxidants:

Spoiler

Risks and safety of polyphenol consumption - PubMed

This article gives an overview of the potential hazards of polyphenol consumption, as reported during the round-table discussion at the 1st International Conference on Polyphenols and Health, held in Vichy, France, November 2003. Adverse effects of polyphenols have been evaluated primarily in...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

80% of kidney stones are caused by oxalates:

Spoiler

Strategies for preventing calcium oxalate stones - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

75% of calcium in spinach is not bioavailable due to oxalates:

Spoiler

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12810415//

Conversion of beta-carotene to vitamin A is inefficient:

Spoiler

The challenge to reach nutritional adequacy for vitamin A: β-carotene bioavailability and conversion—evidence in humans

β-Carotene is an important dietary source of vitamin A for humans. However, the bioavailability and vitamin A equivalency of β-carotene are highly var…

www.sciencedirect.com

ALA (Plant-Based Omega-3) conversion to DHA is below 5%:

Spoiler

Efficiency of conversion of alpha-linolenic acid to long chain n-3 fatty acids in man - PubMed

Alpha-linolenic acid (18:3n-3) is the major n-3 (omega 3) fatty acid in the human diet. It is derived mainly from terrestrial plant consumption and it has long been thought that its major biochemical role is as the principal precursor for long chain polyunsaturated fatty acids, of which...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Plant proteins have lower bioavailability and contain anti-nutrients that hinder nutrient absorption:

Spoiler

Protein Nutrition: Understanding Structure, Digestibility, and Bioavailability for Optimal Health - PMC

This review discusses different protein sources and their role in human nutrition, focusing on their structure, digestibility, and bioavailability. Plant-based proteins, such as those found in legumes, nuts, and seeds, may contain anti-nutritional ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Plants are missing 15 micro nutrients that are all found in meat. Some plants can contain insufficient trace amounts of a few of these nutrients, often due to bacteria or similar sources. But generally, they lack these 15 essential micro nutrients in sufficient quantities needed for optimal health and development.

Chapter 2: Gluconeogenesis, the natural energy source

Spoiler: Chapter 2

Watch this video on the Randle cycle, no need to type it out and make this thread longer than it already is. He explains it well:

Basically: Your body creates enough carbs to thrive on its own trough gluconeogenesis. Humans have lived on gluconeogenesis for decamillennia. Gymcels read the statement below.

Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randle_cycle

Eating the natural carnivore diet will prevent cancer and diabetes, as your blood glucose level won't be chronically elevated:

Spoiler

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28096127/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8434558/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6355252/

"But I go to the gym, I need carbs!"

You don't need to do 5 sets of 20 of squats, just do low volume high intensity. If you still feel the need for carbs after fixing your sleep schedule and a few weeks of ketosis, go ahead and eat some fruit for carbs. You don't need to do everything perfect or 100% similar to our ancestors. My point is, that even imitating the most natural diet as close as possible for your life circumstances is superior to goyslop.

Common logical fallacies: "Raw meat won't ascend you!" — Yes, it won't. It's still the healthiest "diet". I never claimed it would magically triple your PSL.
"Bro listens to Goatis, what a retard!" — I don't. Goatis did not invent the natural human diet. I disagree with a lot of stuff he says.

Go after the logical reasoning and actual arguments if you disagree. Trying to use ad hominem or a straw man won't work here. Be better. Let's see how many "people" still bring make use of these.

Of course, there is much more to this, but I think this is a great start.

​

I have a theory that liver or a high vitamin a diet is like accutane trust me it makes sense

 

[SlayerJonas]

its hilarious how you think using pretty words like gluconeogenesis makes you knowledgable, especially when it has literally 0 to do with the argument that no carbs is inferior to eating carbs. i really wonder who are you trying to impress so hard

don't interpret much, biology isn't philosophy .

no top bodybuilder or athlete that is not a long distance runner or other variation of that is on the ketogenic diet for obvious reasons

You are neither and the body adapted (and uses gluconeogenesis), there is nothing deep about it

the thread does mention anti nootrients and you say the thread is good, obviously thus agreeing with OP. cant believe i have to explain shit like this to you

I'm not OP and I didn't say anywhere I'm defending the points, I just like the thread because I like logic and it's thought-provoking .

You don't deserve another reply .

 

[lowiqcel__.]

Scurvy?

There was a stusy where they fed humans raw meat and nothing else to try and
give them scurvy

 

[piec]

You are neither and the body adapted (and uses gluconeogenesis), there is nothing deep about it

I'm not OP and I didn't say anywhere I'm defending the points, I just like the thread because I like logic and it's thought-provoking .

You don't deserve another reply .

literally typed nothing of value just to not look like a retard

interesting attempts at mental gymnastics to justify agreeing with smoothbrain positions tho i will give you that

 

[imontheloose]

You are neither and the body adapted (and uses gluconeogenesis), there is nothing deep about it

I'm not OP and I didn't say anywhere I'm defending the points, I just like the thread because I like logic and it's thought-provoking .

You don't deserve another reply .

Isn’t gluconeogenesis understood by evolutionists to be a consequence of humans needing it to survive as large sums of proteins were all they could find at the time and consequently the others died?

 

[KeepCopingLads]

You can just take a bottle of raw milk thats what I'mma be doing and larping it as buttermilk since thats pretty nt here to consume

Mmm, I need to get my hands on raw milk
Also won't milk spoil

 

[SlayerJonas]

Isn’t gluconeogenesis understood by evolutionists to be a consequence of humans needing it to survive as large sums of proteins were all they could find at the time and consequently the others died?

That's what I said with 2 (or 5 with the bracket) words, yeah

Mmm, I need to get my hands on raw milk
Also won't milk spoil

Raw milk works in nordic countries very efficiently apparently, I'm content with the pasteurized milk if there's no greater benefit to it being raw (maybe nutrients) here in Germany

 

[KeepCopingLads]

That's what I said with 2 (or 5 with the bracket) words, yeah

Raw milk works in nordic countries very efficiently apparently, I'm content with the pasteurized milk if there's no greater benefit to it being raw (maybe nutrients) here in Germany

I think heating decreases something called lactoferin (I deffo spelled that shit wrong )
Also wdym efficiency, as in the people can digest it better or producing it is better

 

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Dnr
Vegan4L

 

[SlayerJonas]

I think heating decreases something called lactoferin (I deffo spelled that shit wrong )
Also wdym efficiency, as in the people can digest it better or producing it is better

The conditions in which the raw milk is produced are much safer over there, it's more socially accepted also . It's like a healthy diet is a privilege of the rich, but I guess that's just another case of the peasants being divided from the rich / class division (I don't judge) .

 

[KeepCopingLads]

. It's like a healthy diet is a privilege of the rich

Cage

The conditions in which the raw milk is produced are much safer over there

Ah, less Sam and Ella there I assume

 

[imontheloose]

That's what I said with 2 (or 5 with the bracket) words, yeah

Raw milk works in nordic countries very efficiently apparently, I'm content with the pasteurized milk if there's no greater benefit to it being raw (maybe nutrients) here in Germany

My mum used to let us drink the milk soon after the cows were milked, still warm, and it was lovely. Sadly, I have saw how dirty and disgusting these animals are so it always makes me feel a bit yucky when drinking it. Whenever I am back at home, we just pasteurise it ourselves; a low-temp for a chunk of time is fair. No need to blast it.

Anyway, my point was, surely that is your body’s, consequential, last resort of survival if history has shown so? Your body must be in a stressed state as you undergo it. I suppose milk has plenty of carbohydrates in it since you permit dairy so that solves it.

 

[KeepCopingLads]

My mum used to let us drink the milk soon after the cows were milked, still warm

I assume u had colostrum right, what it taste like?

 

[veganessujuc@gmail.]

Iraniancel is back welcome fren

 

[SlayerJonas]

Cage

Ah, less Sam and Ella there I assume

Who are Sam and Ella ?

My mum used to let us drink the milk soon after the cows were milked, still warm, and it was lovely. Sadly, I have saw how dirty and disgusting these animals are so it always makes me feel a bit yucky when drinking it. Whenever I am back at home, we just pasteurise it ourselves; a low-temp for a chunk of time is fair. No need to blast it.

I think you should separate the animal from the product here but I understand . The animal can be dirty but the milk isn't .

Anyway, my point was, surely that is your body’s, consequential, last resort of survival if history has shown so? Your body must be in a stressed state as you undergo it. I suppose milk has plenty of carbohydrates in it since you permit dairy so that solves it.

It's hard tracing back our eating habits to their origin because they go far beyond homo sapiens .

Gluconeogenesis could be the attempt of the body compensating for a lacking carb intake prior to the long time where we started eating meat or stopped doing so

Evolution also has the side of not caring about the vanities, so gluconeogenesis could also be caused by the body just not caring about the process remaining to exist in that whole ass long time window

 

[IraniancelV2]

its hilarious how you think using pretty words like gluconeogenesis makes you knowledgable, especially when it has literally 0 to do with the argument that no carbs is inferior to eating carbs. i really wonder who are you trying to impress so hard

Except you're wrong. Gluconeogenesis is important because it's a mechanism that makes exogenous carb consumption not needed for functioning well. If we now know that carbohydrates activate the randle cycle, please tell me why you would eat them?

its hilarious how you think using pretty words like gluconeogenesis makes you knowledgable, especially when it has literally 0 to do with the argument that no carbs is inferior to eating carbs. i really wonder who are you trying to impress so hard

no top bodybuilder or athlete that is not a long distance runner or other variation of that is on the ketogenic diet for obvious reasons

Wrong. There is an ultra marathon runner who is on a ketogenic diet. Also that wouldn't prove anything in terms of health, as that much exercise is unnatural. All the top athletes are also on PEDs.

@SlayerJonas I think it's better to ignore him as long as he doesn't read the entire thread and keeps insulting.

 

[imontheloose]

I assume u had colostrum right, what it taste like?

It has this strange meaty (?) undertone, or perhaps broth-y is a better description. A tad nutty, almost. It’s got the texture of condensed milk so thick and creamy!

 

[piec]

Except you're wrong. Gluconeogenesis is important because it's a mechanism that makes exogenous carb consumption not needed for functioning well. If we now know that carbohydrates activate the randle cycle, please tell me why you would eat them?

Wrong. There is an ultra marathon runner who is on a ketogenic diet. Also that wouldn't prove anything in terms of health, as that much exercise is unnatural. All the tip athletes are also on PEDs.

@SlayerJonas I think it's better to ignore him as long as he doesn't read the entire thread and keeps insulting.

dude i will do you the favor and anwser this once because this is exceptionally low iq and low effort for me

please tell me why you would eat them?

because of the reasons i said, optimal performance and hypertrophy

There is an ultra marathon runner who is on a ketogenic diet

i literally said unless you are a long distance runner in my original post, talk about not reading

health, as that much exercise is unnatural

@SlayerJonas we are getting really desperate here if we are liking even this post mayne i cant lie

 

[IraniancelV2]

Anyway, my point was, surely that is your body’s, consequential, last resort of survival if history has shown so? Your body must be in a stressed state as you undergo it. I suppose milk has plenty of carbohydrates in it since you permit dairy so that solves it.

Watch the 5 minute video I linked in chapter 2. It doesn't seem like a "last resort" to me when it's the more stable energy source that lowers oxidative stress without having to chronically spike blood sugar.

 

[KeepCopingLads]

It's hard tracing back our eating habits to their origin

Yh wasn't there a time where early humans had to eat bone marrow cus we couldn't hunt for shit

 

[IraniancelV2]

i literally said unless you are a long distance runner in my original post, talk about not reading

I misread a few words, you ignored my entire thread. Don't try to somehow frame this as if it's the same.

 

[IraniancelV2]

dude i will do you the favor and anwser this once because this is exceptionally low iq and low effort for me


because of the reasons i said, optimal performance and hypertrophy

If you're a gymcel you can eat some fruit for carbs, which I mentioned in my thread.

I also said you're a carnivore by definition, even if you don't exclusively eat meat. Eating primarily meat means you're a carnivore. I keep repeating myself.

Now next time be respectful and respond to my whole argument, you're embarrassing yourself.

 

[SlayerJonas]

dude i will do you the favor and anwser this once because this is exceptionally low iq and low effort for me


because of the reasons i said, optimal performance and hypertrophy


i literally said unless you are a long distance runner in my original post, talk about not reading


@SlayerJonas we are getting really desperate here if we are liking even this post mayne i cant lie

Repped because he tagged me

literally typed nothing of value just to not look like a retard

interesting attempts at mental gymnastics to justify agreeing with smoothbrain positions tho i will give you that

This message gave me mixed signals (women type shit) because it acknowledges my complexity but also says I'm distracting from the fact that I'm a supposed retard

Like with women, only the HTBs+ are worth talking to and you're a Polish male arguing AGAINST ME in a discussion about biology on this incel website

 

[kurd]

i dont want to eat raw meat at school
negative reputation
any cooked meat that wont go bad by the time i eat it?

why negative reputation?

in my perspective that would sound bad ass, imagine some niggas talking about u at school and one of them brings it up “Oh CopingLads? Dude that guy eats straight raw meat, hes a beast!!”

 

[kazama]

"But I go to the gym, I need carbs!"

Many ppl think that to restore ur energy stores u just need to eat carbohydrates before training. But no, the carbs used became energy stores 8 hours b4 that workout lol
Although I advocate consuming carbohydrates, ppl still have a very misconception

75% of calcium in spinach is not bioavailable due to oxalates:

Its incredibly brutal to see the bioavailability of foods. Most of my calcium intake comes from eggshells
I also add them when Im going to plant something. This way the food absorbs that calcium, its practically a "boost."
I see no problem in eating fruits and tubers as long as they come from a trustworthy dealer

Conversion of beta-carotene to vitamin A is inefficient:

I only consume it for the color. The tan is glorious

just do low volume high intensity.

Mirin sbl

 

[kazama]

Great thread. Idk why I argued with u, I dont really disagree that much

 

[IraniancelV2]

Repped because he tagged me

This message gave me mixed signals (women type shit) because it acknowledges my complexity but also says I'm distracting from the fact that I'm a supposed retard

Like with women, only the HTBs+ are worth talking to and you're a Polish male arguing AGAINST ME in a discussion about biology on this incel website

He loses all his credibility just because he is so incredibly emotional and DNR my thread.

 

[KeepCopingLads]

why negative reputation?

in my perspective that would sound bad ass, imagine some niggas talking about u at school and one of them brings it up “Oh CopingLads? Dude that guy eats straight raw meat, hes a beast!!”

I'll get clowned so hard for following a ''dumbass tiktok trend'' cus raw meat got popularised there to tiktokcels aka everyone

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Oh CopingLads? Dude that guy eats straight raw meat, hes a beast!!”

I wish
I wanna be seen like that
Would be sick