My formattings good? Also did u even read my threads?? Im sure u can understand it i consider u one of the high iq on this forum but ur telling me anyones understanding it??
I read ur steroid and SARM threads I just disagree that ppl should use SARMs
I also absolutely disagree i just made it
also sum ppl might understand words that i say but not what im talking about ive had several ppl try to debate me in replies, a few i think r people yk, and they all just sound stupid because they read some threads on here and think theyre genius
these pumps im getting on this lgd cycle are unholy jfl. tempted to start test this summer tbh
why would u write a thread u dont believe inI also absolutely disagree i just made it
Incase someone chooses to do sarms instead of steroids if someones gonna do something retarded atleast theyll do it right
its a diuretic
yea i just added it cuz u can DIY, and i wanted it to be a diy oriented thread
Ik that but how are we supposed to dose it to debloat?
i’ve never taken it but i’ve ordered but for events i’m going to take it the morning of. i’m not trying to piss 24/7 during the event which it makes you do
The Ogee curve is an extremely important feature for attractiveness in men and women
View attachment 2842865View attachment 2842867
makes the difference between a chad & a normie
-Been a while since I created a guide, figured id explain the methods im working on.
View attachment 2842857
after @CoreSchizo 's pathetic attempt at a DIY buccal fat removal, Someone needed to provide safer alternatives.
I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF (⚠️ GRAPHIC)
I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF I messed up, I went too high when trying to cut it out and hit something that made me start bleeding everywhere. I watched the surgery video, and the person didn't bleed this much. That's how I know I messed it up I still managed to pull out the fat...looksmax.org
Understanding the bones/tissue that cause the ogee curve
-ZYGOS
View attachment 2842869
Hollow cheeks are caused by lateral zygomatic projection as well as frontal prominence.
-Gonions/Jaw
View attachment 2842876
The gonion shape will cause hallows also, more flared gonions and a wider bigonial width will stretch your face and create that look.
-Masseter Muscles
View attachment 2842893
View attachment 2842895
I included a video of myself flexing my masseter in the sun to show how it chisels my face, hypertrophy of the masseters with have this effect if they have proper insertions
View attachment 2842903View attachment 2842905
Examples of elite, low masseter insertions. High masseter setness is a death sentence for hypertrophy enthusiasts. Also the pterygomasseteric sling in the gif posted above is extremely aesthetic jfl.
tldr here, only hypertrophy your masseters if they are low set.
you will look like a bloated pig if you chew with unideal masseters. If this is you, botox.
-Chin
View attachment 2842921
Having strong chin projection can have a small effect on the soft tissue but barely. A chin wing osteotomy or genioplasty can be best for achieving this while also tightening the masseters.
-Taller skull
View attachment 2842945
Having a taller skull and total FWHR will cause you to be less prone to bloating. Skull size is not a cope, Tyler Mahers skull allows him to be effortlessly debloated.
Ok, now you understand the things that will cause tightness of the soft tissue
-here's the tissue that causes you to bloat
-Buccal fat pads
View attachment 2842956
This small fat store can make or break hallow cheeks, removal or atrophy of the buccal pad will almost always lead to hallow cheeks
View attachment 2842961
Buccal pad removal results, instant OG.
You can easily self perform this surgery, im gonna try this shit eventually. Just dont remove more than 30-50%.
-The parotid duct/gland.
View attachment 2842977
Atrophying the parotid duct via botox should lead to a better ogee according to @SteveRogers , going to consult a few more people on this because its not talked abt anywhere on the internet currently
-4 units of botox to the parotid, your jordan barrett instantly.
View attachment 2842991
expectable results
-Bonus
The buccinators also hypertrophy when you eat with large bites, When I use to eat with a serving spoon on my bulk I hypertrophied my buccinators. Mewing while swallowing avoids activating them, and eating small bites.
How to actually atrophy the buccal fat pad via injection lipolysis
-Lipo Agents ranked
Lipolab
Aqualux
Kybella
Lemon/pine bottle
I tried lemonbottle and it was objectively shit and no non placebo results after 16 mL into buccals
Trying Lipo Lab when it arrives, allegedly 85% Atrophy of the fat in studies.
heres my attempt at lemon bottle, good guide on how to properly inject lipo agents
The Maxilla also has influence on the ogee curve
View attachment 2843023
Here's an aspie video of barrett showing how his maxilla contributes to his hallow cheeks.
View attachment 2843148
to improve the alveolar bones you can create volume via PDO threads.
View attachment 2843151
sorry for image quality but threading here to create volume will help. I recommend using multi-threads to be able to insert more efficiently
blunt tipped multis (just get the 30g version)
Bloat
Bloat is the cuprite for most people not having hallow cheeks. Heres some debloating tips
Potassium Chloride
Why does no one talk about this underrated debloat supplement ?? +tips
I didnt post about Potassium Chloride because I figured it was water, but Apparently not? Potassium Chloride (KCL) is an extremely cheap and effective supplement to regulate sodium/potassium balance and have a debloated face Potassium chloride on amazon (source I use, literally giga...
Quickest debloat supplement, results in 30 minutes.
Furosemide, best diuretic. 80 Mg every 3-5 days will do the trick
https://www.bgpharmadrugs.com/cart/
Water Cycling
Day 1- Limit water as much as possible
Day 2- 1/2 gallon
Day 3- 1/2 gallon
day 4- 1 gallon
day 5- 2 gallon
day 6- 1/2 gallon
day 7- 1/2 gallon
View attachment 2843165
Low salt, less sodium. Sodium causes bloat. @pneumocystosis good find
Eating less Carbs, entering a state of ketosis is ideal. 100g or less per day
-taking preworkout with a large amount of water, I drink preworkout with .5 Gal of water because it causes me to piss more often.
-Some other causes of bloat
high androgen levels
View attachment 2843180
Despite being lean, nick walker is bloated AF. After 400mg of test you will get bloated. Telmisartan helped my bloat while I was on test.
High estrogen
Estrogen bloat from aromatase is just as common when on steroids or even for naturals, estrogen contributes to higher facial fat. You can reduce this with 10mg of aromasin
(aminoasylum.shop)
High aldosterone
View attachment 2843192
throws off sodium potassium balance
Inflammation in buccinators from eating large bites, mew while swallowing
Shit Genetic fat stores, We weren't all made equal
sodiumotassium ratio, should try to go for 3:1 ideally. If your gonna go with carbs eat sweet potatoes as they are high in potassium
Youth fat stores, any youngcels reading this, have no fear your fat redistribution is near. By 20 years old your cheeks will begin to hallow naturally even at higher BF%
Weight loss, first and foremost. This is by far gonna give you more results than all of the aforementioned maxxes. Life doesnt start until 12% BF
The best fat loss drugs are DNP and Clenbuteral, don't waste your time with shit like ostarine.
40MCG of clen will have you shaking so hard it will have people thinking your schizo
Gua sha, is a meme AF but it honestly gives instant results for lymphatic drainage
View attachment 2843207
Sauna, 20 minutes will sweat out all water, pair this with jump rope as its the fast way to lymphatic drain
-FILLER
View attachment 2843211
Filler will give instant ogee, its not as ideal compared to zygomatic implants but im including it because you can DIY it.
aesthetics-shop.com is a good source for filler and botox. Just be careful if you nick a vein its GG.
you can fraud all the bones with filler I talked about
Tags
@Orc @pneumocystosis @SteveRogers @NorwoodAscender @dragomaxxer @TechnoBoss @coispet @Squirtle @Mike141 @NotCarv @CoreSchizo @TikiXVI
Where’d you order from?
OPs source like 3 days ago
Has it already come in?
Is this the one you ordered?
not yet but ik the source is legit because i’ve bought other things from there
yup
Good to hear, what else have you bought from there?
nolvadex
How are you going to dose the Furosemide, The morning of an event 40mg on empty stomach or 80mg?
i’m going to do 80 but yeah morning of or whenever i feel ridiculously bloated and i haven’t taken it in a while
The Ogee curve is an extremely important feature for attractiveness in men and women
View attachment 2842865View attachment 2842867
makes the difference between a chad & a normie
-Been a while since I created a guide, figured id explain the methods im working on.
View attachment 2842857
after @CoreSchizo 's pathetic attempt at a DIY buccal fat removal, Someone needed to provide safer alternatives.
I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF (⚠️ GRAPHIC)
I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF I messed up, I went too high when trying to cut it out and hit something that made me start bleeding everywhere. I watched the surgery video, and the person didn't bleed this much. That's how I know I messed it up I still managed to pull out the fat...
Understanding the bones/tissue that cause the ogee curve
-ZYGOS
View attachment 2842869
Hollow cheeks are caused by lateral zygomatic projection as well as frontal prominence.
-Gonions/Jaw
View attachment 2842876
The gonion shape will cause hallows also, more flared gonions and a wider bigonial width will stretch your face and create that look.
-Masseter Muscles
View attachment 2842893
View attachment 2842895
I included a video of myself flexing my masseter in the sun to show how it chisels my face, hypertrophy of the masseters with have this effect if they have proper insertions
View attachment 2842903View attachment 2842905
Examples of elite, low masseter insertions. High masseter setness is a death sentence for hypertrophy enthusiasts. Also the pterygomasseteric sling in the gif posted above is extremely aesthetic jfl.
tldr here, only hypertrophy your masseters if they are low set.
you will look like a bloated pig if you chew with unideal masseters. If this is you, botox.
-Chin
View attachment 2842921
Having strong chin projection can have a small effect on the soft tissue but barely. A chin wing osteotomy or genioplasty can be best for achieving this while also tightening the masseters.
-Taller skull
View attachment 2842945
Having a taller skull and total FWHR will cause you to be less prone to bloating. Skull size is not a cope, Tyler Mahers skull allows him to be effortlessly debloated.
Ok, now you understand the things that will cause tightness of the soft tissue
-here's the tissue that causes you to bloat
-Buccal fat pads
View attachment 2842956
This small fat store can make or break hallow cheeks, removal or atrophy of the buccal pad will almost always lead to hallow cheeks
View attachment 2842961
Buccal pad removal results, instant OG.
You can easily self perform this surgery, im gonna try this shit eventually. Just dont remove more than 30-50%.
-The parotid duct/gland.
View attachment 2842977
Atrophying the parotid duct via botox should lead to a better ogee according to @SteveRogers , going to consult a few more people on this because its not talked abt anywhere on the internet currently
-4 units of botox to the parotid, your jordan barrett instantly.
View attachment 2842991
expectable results
-Bonus
The buccinators also hypertrophy when you eat with large bites, When I use to eat with a serving spoon on my bulk I hypertrophied my buccinators. Mewing while swallowing avoids activating them, and eating small bites.
How to actually atrophy the buccal fat pad via injection lipolysis
-Lipo Agents ranked
Lipolab
Aqualux
Kybella
Lemon/pine bottle
I tried lemonbottle and it was objectively shit and no non placebo results after 16 mL into buccals
Trying Lipo Lab when it arrives, allegedly 85% Atrophy of the fat in studies.
heres my attempt at lemon bottle, good guide on how to properly inject lipo agents
The Maxilla also has influence on the ogee curve
View attachment 2843023
Here's an aspie video of barrett showing how his maxilla contributes to his hallow cheeks.
View attachment 2843148
to improve the alveolar bones you can create volume via PDO threads.
View attachment 2843151
sorry for image quality but threading here to create volume will help. I recommend using multi-threads to be able to insert more efficiently
blunt tipped multis (just get the 30g version)
Bloat
Bloat is the cuprite for most people not having hallow cheeks. Heres some debloating tips
Potassium Chloride
Why does no one talk about this underrated debloat supplement ?? +tips
I didnt post about Potassium Chloride because I figured it was water, but Apparently not? Potassium Chloride (KCL) is an extremely cheap and effective supplement to regulate sodium/potassium balance and have a debloated face Potassium chloride on amazon (source I use, literally giga...
Quickest debloat supplement, results in 30 minutes.
Furosemide, best diuretic. 80 Mg every 3-5 days will do the trick
https://www.bgpharmadrugs.com/cart/
Water Cycling
Day 1- Limit water as much as possible
Day 2- 1/2 gallon
Day 3- 1/2 gallon
day 4- 1 gallon
day 5- 2 gallon
day 6- 1/2 gallon
day 7- 1/2 gallon
View attachment 2843165
Low salt, less sodium. Sodium causes bloat. @pneumocystosis good find
Eating less Carbs, entering a state of ketosis is ideal. 100g or less per day
-taking preworkout with a large amount of water, I drink preworkout with .5 Gal of water because it causes me to piss more often.
-Some other causes of bloat
high androgen levels
View attachment 2843180
Despite being lean, nick walker is bloated AF. After 400mg of test you will get bloated. Telmisartan helped my bloat while I was on test.
High estrogen
Estrogen bloat from aromatase is just as common when on steroids or even for naturals, estrogen contributes to higher facial fat. You can reduce this with 10mg of aromasin
(aminoasylum.shop)
High aldosterone
View attachment 2843192
throws off sodium potassium balance
Inflammation in buccinators from eating large bites, mew while swallowing
Shit Genetic fat stores, We weren't all made equal
sodium
Youth fat stores, any youngcels reading this, have no fear your fat redistribution is near. By 20 years old your cheeks will begin to hallow naturally even at higher BF%
Weight loss, first and foremost. This is by far gonna give you more results than all of the aforementioned maxxes. Life doesnt start until 12% BF
The best fat loss drugs are DNP and Clenbuteral, don't waste your time with shit like ostarine.
40MCG of clen will have you shaking so hard it will have people thinking your schizo
Gua sha, is a meme AF but it honestly gives instant results for lymphatic drainage
View attachment 2843207
Sauna, 20 minutes will sweat out all water, pair this with jump rope as its the fast way to lymphatic drain
-FILLER
View attachment 2843211
Filler will give instant ogee, its not as ideal compared to zygomatic implants but im including it because you can DIY it.
aesthetics-shop.com is a good source for filler and botox. Just be careful if you nick a vein its GG.
you can fraud all the bones with filler I talked about
Tags
@Orc @pneumocystosis @SteveRogers @NorwoodAscender @dragomaxxer @TechnoBoss @coispet @Squirtle @Mike141 @NotCarv @CoreSchizo @TikiXVI
, good thread though
caging at this gremlin nick walker
The Ogee curve is an extremely important feature for attractiveness in men and women
View attachment 2842865View attachment 2842867
makes the difference between a chad & a normie
-Been a while since I created a guide, figured id explain the methods im working on.
View attachment 2842857
after @CoreSchizo 's pathetic attempt at a DIY buccal fat removal, Someone needed to provide safer alternatives.
I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF (⚠️ GRAPHIC)
I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF I messed up, I went too high when trying to cut it out and hit something that made me start bleeding everywhere. I watched the surgery video, and the person didn't bleed this much. That's how I know I messed it up I still managed to pull out the fat...
Understanding the bones/tissue that cause the ogee curve
-ZYGOS
View attachment 2842869
Hollow cheeks are caused by lateral zygomatic projection as well as frontal prominence.
-Gonions/Jaw
View attachment 2842876
The gonion shape will cause hallows also, more flared gonions and a wider bigonial width will stretch your face and create that look.
-Masseter Muscles
View attachment 2842893
View attachment 2842895
I included a video of myself flexing my masseter in the sun to show how it chisels my face, hypertrophy of the masseters with have this effect if they have proper insertions
View attachment 2842903View attachment 2842905
Examples of elite, low masseter insertions. High masseter setness is a death sentence for hypertrophy enthusiasts. Also the pterygomasseteric sling in the gif posted above is extremely aesthetic jfl.
tldr here, only hypertrophy your masseters if they are low set.
you will look like a bloated pig if you chew with unideal masseters. If this is you, botox.
-Chin
View attachment 2842921
Having strong chin projection can have a small effect on the soft tissue but barely. A chin wing osteotomy or genioplasty can be best for achieving this while also tightening the masseters.
-Taller skull
View attachment 2842945
Having a taller skull and total FWHR will cause you to be less prone to bloating. Skull size is not a cope, Tyler Mahers skull allows him to be effortlessly debloated.
Ok, now you understand the things that will cause tightness of the soft tissue
-here's the tissue that causes you to bloat
-Buccal fat pads
View attachment 2842956
This small fat store can make or break hallow cheeks, removal or atrophy of the buccal pad will almost always lead to hallow cheeks
View attachment 2842961
Buccal pad removal results, instant OG.
You can easily self perform this surgery, im gonna try this shit eventually. Just dont remove more than 30-50%.
-The parotid duct/gland.
View attachment 2842977
Atrophying the parotid duct via botox should lead to a better ogee according to @SteveRogers , going to consult a few more people on this because its not talked abt anywhere on the internet currently
-4 units of botox to the parotid, your jordan barrett instantly.
View attachment 2842991
expectable results
-Bonus
The buccinators also hypertrophy when you eat with large bites, When I use to eat with a serving spoon on my bulk I hypertrophied my buccinators. Mewing while swallowing avoids activating them, and eating small bites.
How to actually atrophy the buccal fat pad via injection lipolysis
-Lipo Agents ranked
Lipolab
Aqualux
Kybella
Lemon/pine bottle
I tried lemonbottle and it was objectively shit and no non placebo results after 16 mL into buccals
Trying Lipo Lab when it arrives, allegedly 85% Atrophy of the fat in studies.
heres my attempt at lemon bottle, good guide on how to properly inject lipo agents
The Maxilla also has influence on the ogee curve
View attachment 2843023
Here's an aspie video of barrett showing how his maxilla contributes to his hallow cheeks.
View attachment 2843148
to improve the alveolar bones you can create volume via PDO threads.
View attachment 2843151
sorry for image quality but threading here to create volume will help. I recommend using multi-threads to be able to insert more efficiently
blunt tipped multis (just get the 30g version)
Bloat
Bloat is the cuprite for most people not having hallow cheeks. Heres some debloating tips
Potassium Chloride
Why does no one talk about this underrated debloat supplement ?? +tips
I didnt post about Potassium Chloride because I figured it was water, but Apparently not? Potassium Chloride (KCL) is an extremely cheap and effective supplement to regulate sodium/potassium balance and have a debloated face Potassium chloride on amazon (source I use, literally giga...
Quickest debloat supplement, results in 30 minutes.
Furosemide, best diuretic. 80 Mg every 3-5 days will do the trick
https://www.bgpharmadrugs.com/cart/
Water Cycling
Day 1- Limit water as much as possible
Day 2- 1/2 gallon
Day 3- 1/2 gallon
day 4- 1 gallon
day 5- 2 gallon
day 6- 1/2 gallon
day 7- 1/2 gallon
View attachment 2843165
Low salt, less sodium. Sodium causes bloat. @pneumocystosis good find
Eating less Carbs, entering a state of ketosis is ideal. 100g or less per day
-taking preworkout with a large amount of water, I drink preworkout with .5 Gal of water because it causes me to piss more often.
-Some other causes of bloat
high androgen levels
View attachment 2843180
Despite being lean, nick walker is bloated AF. After 400mg of test you will get bloated. Telmisartan helped my bloat while I was on test.
High estrogen
Estrogen bloat from aromatase is just as common when on steroids or even for naturals, estrogen contributes to higher facial fat. You can reduce this with 10mg of aromasin
(aminoasylum.shop)
High aldosterone
View attachment 2843192
throws off sodium potassium balance
Inflammation in buccinators from eating large bites, mew while swallowing
Shit Genetic fat stores, We weren't all made equal
sodium
Youth fat stores, any youngcels reading this, have no fear your fat redistribution is near. By 20 years old your cheeks will begin to hallow naturally even at higher BF%
Weight loss, first and foremost. This is by far gonna give you more results than all of the aforementioned maxxes. Life doesnt start until 12% BF
The best fat loss drugs are DNP and Clenbuteral, don't waste your time with shit like ostarine.
40MCG of clen will have you shaking so hard it will have people thinking your schizo
Gua sha, is a meme AF but it honestly gives instant results for lymphatic drainage
View attachment 2843207
Sauna, 20 minutes will sweat out all water, pair this with jump rope as its the fast way to lymphatic drain
-FILLER
View attachment 2843211
Filler will give instant ogee, its not as ideal compared to zygomatic implants but im including it because you can DIY it.
aesthetics-shop.com is a good source for filler and botox. Just be careful if you nick a vein its GG.
you can fraud all the bones with filler I talked about
Tags
@Orc @pneumocystosis @SteveRogers @NorwoodAscender @dragomaxxer @TechnoBoss @coispet @Squirtle @Mike141 @NotCarv @CoreSchizo @TikiXVI
The Ogee curve is an extremely important feature for attractiveness in men and women
View attachment 2842865View attachment 2842867
makes the difference between a chad & a normie
-Been a while since I created a guide, figured id explain the methods im working on.
View attachment 2842857
after @CoreSchizo 's pathetic attempt at a DIY buccal fat removal, Someone needed to provide safer alternatives.
I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF (⚠️ GRAPHIC)
I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF I messed up, I went too high when trying to cut it out and hit something that made me start bleeding everywhere. I watched the surgery video, and the person didn't bleed this much. That's how I know I messed it up I still managed to pull out the fat...
Understanding the bones/tissue that cause the ogee curve
-ZYGOS
View attachment 2842869
Hollow cheeks are caused by lateral zygomatic projection as well as frontal prominence.
-Gonions/Jaw
View attachment 2842876
The gonion shape will cause hallows also, more flared gonions and a wider bigonial width will stretch your face and create that look.
-Masseter Muscles
View attachment 2842893
View attachment 2842895
I included a video of myself flexing my masseter in the sun to show how it chisels my face, hypertrophy of the masseters with have this effect if they have proper insertions
View attachment 2842903View attachment 2842905
Examples of elite, low masseter insertions. High masseter setness is a death sentence for hypertrophy enthusiasts. Also the pterygomasseteric sling in the gif posted above is extremely aesthetic jfl.
tldr here, only hypertrophy your masseters if they are low set.
you will look like a bloated pig if you chew with unideal masseters. If this is you, botox.
-Chin
View attachment 2842921
Having strong chin projection can have a small effect on the soft tissue but barely. A chin wing osteotomy or genioplasty can be best for achieving this while also tightening the masseters.
-Taller skull
View attachment 2842945
Having a taller skull and total FWHR will cause you to be less prone to bloating. Skull size is not a cope, Tyler Mahers skull allows him to be effortlessly debloated.
Ok, now you understand the things that will cause tightness of the soft tissue
-here's the tissue that causes you to bloat
-Buccal fat pads
View attachment 2842956
This small fat store can make or break hallow cheeks, removal or atrophy of the buccal pad will almost always lead to hallow cheeks
View attachment 2842961
Buccal pad removal results, instant OG.
You can easily self perform this surgery, im gonna try this shit eventually. Just dont remove more than 30-50%.
-The parotid duct/gland.
View attachment 2842977
Atrophying the parotid duct via botox should lead to a better ogee according to @SteveRogers , going to consult a few more people on this because its not talked abt anywhere on the internet currently
-4 units of botox to the parotid, your jordan barrett instantly.
View attachment 2842991
expectable results
-Bonus
The buccinators also hypertrophy when you eat with large bites, When I use to eat with a serving spoon on my bulk I hypertrophied my buccinators. Mewing while swallowing avoids activating them, and eating small bites.
How to actually atrophy the buccal fat pad via injection lipolysis
-Lipo Agents ranked
Lipolab
Aqualux
Kybella
Lemon/pine bottle
I tried lemonbottle and it was objectively shit and no non placebo results after 16 mL into buccals
Trying Lipo Lab when it arrives, allegedly 85% Atrophy of the fat in studies.
heres my attempt at lemon bottle, good guide on how to properly inject lipo agents
The Maxilla also has influence on the ogee curve
View attachment 2843023
Here's an aspie video of barrett showing how his maxilla contributes to his hallow cheeks.
View attachment 2843148
to improve the alveolar bones you can create volume via PDO threads.
View attachment 2843151
sorry for image quality but threading here to create volume will help. I recommend using multi-threads to be able to insert more efficiently
blunt tipped multis (just get the 30g version)
Bloat
Bloat is the cuprite for most people not having hallow cheeks. Heres some debloating tips
Potassium Chloride
Why does no one talk about this underrated debloat supplement ?? +tips
I didnt post about Potassium Chloride because I figured it was water, but Apparently not? Potassium Chloride (KCL) is an extremely cheap and effective supplement to regulate sodium/potassium balance and have a debloated face Potassium chloride on amazon (source I use, literally giga...
Quickest debloat supplement, results in 30 minutes.
Furosemide, best diuretic. 80 Mg every 3-5 days will do the trick
https://www.bgpharmadrugs.com/cart/
Water Cycling
Day 1- Limit water as much as possible
Day 2- 1/2 gallon
Day 3- 1/2 gallon
day 4- 1 gallon
day 5- 2 gallon
day 6- 1/2 gallon
day 7- 1/2 gallon
View attachment 2843165
Low salt, less sodium. Sodium causes bloat. @pneumocystosis good find
Eating less Carbs, entering a state of ketosis is ideal. 100g or less per day
-taking preworkout with a large amount of water, I drink preworkout with .5 Gal of water because it causes me to piss more often.
-Some other causes of bloat
high androgen levels
View attachment 2843180
Despite being lean, nick walker is bloated AF. After 400mg of test you will get bloated. Telmisartan helped my bloat while I was on test.
High estrogen
Estrogen bloat from aromatase is just as common when on steroids or even for naturals, estrogen contributes to higher facial fat. You can reduce this with 10mg of aromasin
(aminoasylum.shop)
High aldosterone
View attachment 2843192
throws off sodium potassium balance
Inflammation in buccinators from eating large bites, mew while swallowing
Shit Genetic fat stores, We weren't all made equal
sodium
Youth fat stores, any youngcels reading this, have no fear your fat redistribution is near. By 20 years old your cheeks will begin to hallow naturally even at higher BF%
Weight loss, first and foremost. This is by far gonna give you more results than all of the aforementioned maxxes. Life doesnt start until 12% BF
The best fat loss drugs are DNP and Clenbuteral, don't waste your time with shit like ostarine.
40MCG of clen will have you shaking so hard it will have people thinking your schizo
Gua sha, is a meme AF but it honestly gives instant results for lymphatic drainage
View attachment 2843207
Sauna, 20 minutes will sweat out all water, pair this with jump rope as its the fast way to lymphatic drain
-FILLER
View attachment 2843211
Filler will give instant ogee, its not as ideal compared to zygomatic implants but im including it because you can DIY it.
aesthetics-shop.com is a good source for filler and botox. Just be careful if you nick a vein its GG.
you can fraud all the bones with filler I talked about
Tags
@Orc @pneumocystosis @SteveRogers @NorwoodAscender @dragomaxxer @TechnoBoss @coispet @Squirtle @Mike141 @NotCarv @CoreSchizo @TikiXVI
The Ogee curve is an extremely important feature for attractiveness in men and women
View attachment 2842865View attachment 2842867
makes the difference between a chad & a normie
-Been a while since I created a guide, figured id explain the methods im working on.
View attachment 2842857
after @CoreSchizo 's pathetic attempt at a DIY buccal fat removal, Someone needed to provide safer alternatives.
I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF (⚠️ GRAPHIC)
I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF I messed up, I went too high when trying to cut it out and hit something that made me start bleeding everywhere. I watched the surgery video, and the person didn't bleed this much. That's how I know I messed it up I still managed to pull out the fat...
Understanding the bones/tissue that cause the ogee curve
-ZYGOS
View attachment 2842869
Hollow cheeks are caused by lateral zygomatic projection as well as frontal prominence.
-Gonions/Jaw
View attachment 2842876
The gonion shape will cause hallows also, more flared gonions and a wider bigonial width will stretch your face and create that look.
-Masseter Muscles
View attachment 2842893
View attachment 2842895
I included a video of myself flexing my masseter in the sun to show how it chisels my face, hypertrophy of the masseters with have this effect if they have proper insertions
View attachment 2842903View attachment 2842905
Examples of elite, low masseter insertions. High masseter setness is a death sentence for hypertrophy enthusiasts. Also the pterygomasseteric sling in the gif posted above is extremely aesthetic jfl.
tldr here, only hypertrophy your masseters if they are low set.
you will look like a bloated pig if you chew with unideal masseters. If this is you, botox.
-Chin
View attachment 2842921
Having strong chin projection can have a small effect on the soft tissue but barely. A chin wing osteotomy or genioplasty can be best for achieving this while also tightening the masseters.
-Taller skull
View attachment 2842945
Having a taller skull and total FWHR will cause you to be less prone to bloating. Skull size is not a cope, Tyler Mahers skull allows him to be effortlessly debloated.
Ok, now you understand the things that will cause tightness of the soft tissue
-here's the tissue that causes you to bloat
-Buccal fat pads
View attachment 2842956
This small fat store can make or break hallow cheeks, removal or atrophy of the buccal pad will almost always lead to hallow cheeks
View attachment 2842961
Buccal pad removal results, instant OG.
You can easily self perform this surgery, im gonna try this shit eventually. Just dont remove more than 30-50%.
-The parotid duct/gland.
View attachment 2842977
Atrophying the parotid duct via botox should lead to a better ogee according to @SteveRogers , going to consult a few more people on this because its not talked abt anywhere on the internet currently
-4 units of botox to the parotid, your jordan barrett instantly.
View attachment 2842991
expectable results
-Bonus
The buccinators also hypertrophy when you eat with large bites, When I use to eat with a serving spoon on my bulk I hypertrophied my buccinators. Mewing while swallowing avoids activating them, and eating small bites.
How to actually atrophy the buccal fat pad via injection lipolysis
-Lipo Agents ranked
Lipolab
Aqualux
Kybella
Lemon/pine bottle
I tried lemonbottle and it was objectively shit and no non placebo results after 16 mL into buccals
Trying Lipo Lab when it arrives, allegedly 85% Atrophy of the fat in studies.
heres my attempt at lemon bottle, good guide on how to properly inject lipo agents
The Maxilla also has influence on the ogee curve
View attachment 2843023
Here's an aspie video of barrett showing how his maxilla contributes to his hallow cheeks.
View attachment 2843148
to improve the alveolar bones you can create volume via PDO threads.
View attachment 2843151
sorry for image quality but threading here to create volume will help. I recommend using multi-threads to be able to insert more efficiently
blunt tipped multis (just get the 30g version)
Bloat
Bloat is the cuprite for most people not having hallow cheeks. Heres some debloating tips
Potassium Chloride
Why does no one talk about this underrated debloat supplement ?? +tips
I didnt post about Potassium Chloride because I figured it was water, but Apparently not? Potassium Chloride (KCL) is an extremely cheap and effective supplement to regulate sodium/potassium balance and have a debloated face Potassium chloride on amazon (source I use, literally giga...
Quickest debloat supplement, results in 30 minutes.
Furosemide, best diuretic. 80 Mg every 3-5 days will do the trick
https://www.bgpharmadrugs.com/cart/
Water Cycling
Day 1- Limit water as much as possible
Day 2- 1/2 gallon
Day 3- 1/2 gallon
day 4- 1 gallon
day 5- 2 gallon
day 6- 1/2 gallon
day 7- 1/2 gallon
View attachment 2843165
Low salt, less sodium. Sodium causes bloat. @pneumocystosis good find
Eating less Carbs, entering a state of ketosis is ideal. 100g or less per day
-taking preworkout with a large amount of water, I drink preworkout with .5 Gal of water because it causes me to piss more often.
-Some other causes of bloat
high androgen levels
View attachment 2843180
Despite being lean, nick walker is bloated AF. After 400mg of test you will get bloated. Telmisartan helped my bloat while I was on test.
High estrogen
Estrogen bloat from aromatase is just as common when on steroids or even for naturals, estrogen contributes to higher facial fat. You can reduce this with 10mg of aromasin
(aminoasylum.shop)
High aldosterone
View attachment 2843192
throws off sodium potassium balance
Inflammation in buccinators from eating large bites, mew while swallowing
Shit Genetic fat stores, We weren't all made equal
sodium
Youth fat stores, any youngcels reading this, have no fear your fat redistribution is near. By 20 years old your cheeks will begin to hallow naturally even at higher BF%
Weight loss, first and foremost. This is by far gonna give you more results than all of the aforementioned maxxes. Life doesnt start until 12% BF
The best fat loss drugs are DNP and Clenbuteral, don't waste your time with shit like ostarine.
40MCG of clen will have you shaking so hard it will have people thinking your schizo
Gua sha, is a meme AF but it honestly gives instant results for lymphatic drainage
View attachment 2843207
Sauna, 20 minutes will sweat out all water, pair this with jump rope as its the fast way to lymphatic drain
-FILLER
View attachment 2843211
Filler will give instant ogee, its not as ideal compared to zygomatic implants but im including it because you can DIY it.
aesthetics-shop.com is a good source for filler and botox. Just be careful if you nick a vein its GG.
you can fraud all the bones with filler I talked about
Tags
@Orc @pneumocystosis @SteveRogers @NorwoodAscender @dragomaxxer @TechnoBoss @coispet @Squirtle @Mike141 @NotCarv @CoreSchizo @TikiXVI
Pls tell me ur not taking nolvadex, its so fucking neurotoxic
bought it awhile ago. did research, decided not to take it
LISTEN TO ME MOTHER FUCKER. PLEASE GO BALD AND HIT THE GYM
What size needle are you using and what type, 30G Cannula, Insulin Syringes???
wdym by GG, sorry for autism
The Ogee curve is an extremely important feature for attractiveness in men and women
View attachment 2842865View attachment 2842867
makes the difference between a chad & a normie
-Been a while since I created a guide, figured id explain the methods im working on.
View attachment 2842857
after @CoreSchizo 's pathetic attempt at a DIY buccal fat removal, Someone needed to provide safer alternatives.
I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF (⚠️ GRAPHIC)
I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF I messed up, I went too high when trying to cut it out and hit something that made me start bleeding everywhere. I watched the surgery video, and the person didn't bleed this much. That's how I know I messed it up I still managed to pull out the fat...
Understanding the bones/tissue that cause the ogee curve
-ZYGOS
View attachment 2842869
Hollow cheeks are caused by lateral zygomatic projection as well as frontal prominence.
-Gonions/Jaw
View attachment 2842876
The gonion shape will cause hallows also, more flared gonions and a wider bigonial width will stretch your face and create that look.
-Masseter Muscles
View attachment 2842893
View attachment 2842895
I included a video of myself flexing my masseter in the sun to show how it chisels my face, hypertrophy of the masseters with have this effect if they have proper insertions
View attachment 2842903View attachment 2842905
Examples of elite, low masseter insertions. High masseter setness is a death sentence for hypertrophy enthusiasts. Also the pterygomasseteric sling in the gif posted above is extremely aesthetic jfl.
tldr here, only hypertrophy your masseters if they are low set.
you will look like a bloated pig if you chew with unideal masseters. If this is you, botox.
-Chin
View attachment 2842921
Having strong chin projection can have a small effect on the soft tissue but barely. A chin wing osteotomy or genioplasty can be best for achieving this while also tightening the masseters.
-Taller skull
View attachment 2842945
Having a taller skull and total FWHR will cause you to be less prone to bloating. Skull size is not a cope, Tyler Mahers skull allows him to be effortlessly debloated.
Ok, now you understand the things that will cause tightness of the soft tissue
-here's the tissue that causes you to bloat
-Buccal fat pads
View attachment 2842956
This small fat store can make or break hallow cheeks, removal or atrophy of the buccal pad will almost always lead to hallow cheeks
View attachment 2842961
Buccal pad removal results, instant OG.
You can easily self perform this surgery, im gonna try this shit eventually. Just dont remove more than 30-50%.
-The parotid duct/gland.
View attachment 2842977
Atrophying the parotid duct via botox should lead to a better ogee according to @SteveRogers , going to consult a few more people on this because its not talked abt anywhere on the internet currently
-4 units of botox to the parotid, your jordan barrett instantly.
View attachment 2842991
expectable results
-Bonus
The buccinators also hypertrophy when you eat with large bites, When I use to eat with a serving spoon on my bulk I hypertrophied my buccinators. Mewing while swallowing avoids activating them, and eating small bites.
How to actually atrophy the buccal fat pad via injection lipolysis
-Lipo Agents ranked
Lipolab
Aqualux
Kybella
Lemon/pine bottle
I tried lemonbottle and it was objectively shit and no non placebo results after 16 mL into buccals
Trying Lipo Lab when it arrives, allegedly 85% Atrophy of the fat in studies.
heres my attempt at lemon bottle, good guide on how to properly inject lipo agents
The Maxilla also has influence on the ogee curve
View attachment 2843023
Here's an aspie video of barrett showing how his maxilla contributes to his hallow cheeks.
View attachment 2843148
to improve the alveolar bones you can create volume via PDO threads.
View attachment 2843151
sorry for image quality but threading here to create volume will help. I recommend using multi-threads to be able to insert more efficiently
blunt tipped multis (just get the 30g version)
Bloat
Bloat is the cuprite for most people not having hallow cheeks. Heres some debloating tips
Potassium Chloride
Why does no one talk about this underrated debloat supplement ?? +tips
I didnt post about Potassium Chloride because I figured it was water, but Apparently not? Potassium Chloride (KCL) is an extremely cheap and effective supplement to regulate sodium/potassium balance and have a debloated face Potassium chloride on amazon (source I use, literally giga...
Quickest debloat supplement, results in 30 minutes.
Furosemide, best diuretic. 80 Mg every 3-5 days will do the trick
https://www.bgpharmadrugs.com/cart/
Water Cycling
Day 1- Limit water as much as possible
Day 2- 1/2 gallon
Day 3- 1/2 gallon
day 4- 1 gallon
day 5- 2 gallon
day 6- 1/2 gallon
day 7- 1/2 gallon
View attachment 2843165
Low salt, less sodium. Sodium causes bloat. @pneumocystosis good find
Eating less Carbs, entering a state of ketosis is ideal. 100g or less per day
-taking preworkout with a large amount of water, I drink preworkout with .5 Gal of water because it causes me to piss more often.
-Some other causes of bloat
high androgen levels
View attachment 2843180
Despite being lean, nick walker is bloated AF. After 400mg of test you will get bloated. Telmisartan helped my bloat while I was on test.
High estrogen
Estrogen bloat from aromatase is just as common when on steroids or even for naturals, estrogen contributes to higher facial fat. You can reduce this with 10mg of aromasin
(aminoasylum.shop)
High aldosterone
View attachment 2843192
throws off sodium potassium balance
Inflammation in buccinators from eating large bites, mew while swallowing
Shit Genetic fat stores, We weren't all made equal
sodium
Youth fat stores, any youngcels reading this, have no fear your fat redistribution is near. By 20 years old your cheeks will begin to hallow naturally even at higher BF%
Weight loss, first and foremost. This is by far gonna give you more results than all of the aforementioned maxxes. Life doesnt start until 12% BF
The best fat loss drugs are DNP and Clenbuteral, don't waste your time with shit like ostarine.
40MCG of clen will have you shaking so hard it will have people thinking your schizo
Gua sha, is a meme AF but it honestly gives instant results for lymphatic drainage
View attachment 2843207
Sauna, 20 minutes will sweat out all water, pair this with jump rope as its the fast way to lymphatic drain
-FILLER
View attachment 2843211
Filler will give instant ogee, its not as ideal compared to zygomatic implants but im including it because you can DIY it.
aesthetics-shop.com is a good source for filler and botox. Just be careful if you nick a vein its GG.
you can fraud all the bones with filler I talked about
Tags
@Orc @pneumocystosis @SteveRogers @NorwoodAscender @dragomaxxer @TechnoBoss @coispet @Squirtle @Mike141 @NotCarv @CoreSchizo @TikiXVI
Dude how did I miss this thread
The Ogee curve is an extremely important feature for attractiveness in men and women
View attachment 2842865View attachment 2842867
makes the difference between a chad & a normie
-Been a while since I created a guide, figured id explain the methods im working on.
View attachment 2842857
after @CoreSchizo 's pathetic attempt at a DIY buccal fat removal, Someone needed to provide safer alternatives.
I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF (⚠️ GRAPHIC)
I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF I messed up, I went too high when trying to cut it out and hit something that made me start bleeding everywhere. I watched the surgery video, and the person didn't bleed this much. That's how I know I messed it up I still managed to pull out the fat...
Understanding the bones/tissue that cause the ogee curve
-ZYGOS
View attachment 2842869
Hollow cheeks are caused by lateral zygomatic projection as well as frontal prominence.
-Gonions/Jaw
View attachment 2842876
The gonion shape will cause hallows also, more flared gonions and a wider bigonial width will stretch your face and create that look.
-Masseter Muscles
View attachment 2842893
View attachment 2842895
I included a video of myself flexing my masseter in the sun to show how it chisels my face, hypertrophy of the masseters with have this effect if they have proper insertions
View attachment 2842903View attachment 2842905
Examples of elite, low masseter insertions. High masseter setness is a death sentence for hypertrophy enthusiasts. Also the pterygomasseteric sling in the gif posted above is extremely aesthetic jfl.
tldr here, only hypertrophy your masseters if they are low set.
you will look like a bloated pig if you chew with unideal masseters. If this is you, botox.
-Chin
View attachment 2842921
Having strong chin projection can have a small effect on the soft tissue but barely. A chin wing osteotomy or genioplasty can be best for achieving this while also tightening the masseters.
-Taller skull
View attachment 2842945
Having a taller skull and total FWHR will cause you to be less prone to bloating. Skull size is not a cope, Tyler Mahers skull allows him to be effortlessly debloated.
Ok, now you understand the things that will cause tightness of the soft tissue
-here's the tissue that causes you to bloat
-Buccal fat pads
View attachment 2842956
This small fat store can make or break hallow cheeks, removal or atrophy of the buccal pad will almost always lead to hallow cheeks
View attachment 2842961
Buccal pad removal results, instant OG.
You can easily self perform this surgery, im gonna try this shit eventually. Just dont remove more than 30-50%.
-The parotid duct/gland.
View attachment 2842977
Atrophying the parotid duct via botox should lead to a better ogee according to @SteveRogers , going to consult a few more people on this because its not talked abt anywhere on the internet currently
-4 units of botox to the parotid, your jordan barrett instantly.
View attachment 2842991
expectable results
-Bonus
The buccinators also hypertrophy when you eat with large bites, When I use to eat with a serving spoon on my bulk I hypertrophied my buccinators. Mewing while swallowing avoids activating them, and eating small bites.
How to actually atrophy the buccal fat pad via injection lipolysis
-Lipo Agents ranked
Lipolab
Aqualux
Kybella
Lemon/pine bottle
I tried lemonbottle and it was objectively shit and no non placebo results after 16 mL into buccals
Trying Lipo Lab when it arrives, allegedly 85% Atrophy of the fat in studies.
heres my attempt at lemon bottle, good guide on how to properly inject lipo agents
The Maxilla also has influence on the ogee curve
View attachment 2843023
Here's an aspie video of barrett showing how his maxilla contributes to his hallow cheeks.
View attachment 2843148
to improve the alveolar bones you can create volume via PDO threads.
View attachment 2843151
sorry for image quality but threading here to create volume will help. I recommend using multi-threads to be able to insert more efficiently
blunt tipped multis (just get the 30g version)
Bloat
Bloat is the cuprite for most people not having hallow cheeks. Heres some debloating tips
Potassium Chloride
Why does no one talk about this underrated debloat supplement ?? +tips
I didnt post about Potassium Chloride because I figured it was water, but Apparently not? Potassium Chloride (KCL) is an extremely cheap and effective supplement to regulate sodium/potassium balance and have a debloated face Potassium chloride on amazon (source I use, literally giga...
Quickest debloat supplement, results in 30 minutes.
Furosemide, best diuretic. 80 Mg every 3-5 days will do the trick
https://www.bgpharmadrugs.com/cart/
Water Cycling
Day 1- Limit water as much as possible
Day 2- 1/2 gallon
Day 3- 1/2 gallon
day 4- 1 gallon
day 5- 2 gallon
day 6- 1/2 gallon
day 7- 1/2 gallon
View attachment 2843165
Low salt, less sodium. Sodium causes bloat. @pneumocystosis good find
Eating less Carbs, entering a state of ketosis is ideal. 100g or less per day
-taking preworkout with a large amount of water, I drink preworkout with .5 Gal of water because it causes me to piss more often.
-Some other causes of bloat
high androgen levels
View attachment 2843180
Despite being lean, nick walker is bloated AF. After 400mg of test you will get bloated. Telmisartan helped my bloat while I was on test.
High estrogen
Estrogen bloat from aromatase is just as common when on steroids or even for naturals, estrogen contributes to higher facial fat. You can reduce this with 10mg of aromasin
(aminoasylum.shop)
High aldosterone
View attachment 2843192
throws off sodium potassium balance
Inflammation in buccinators from eating large bites, mew while swallowing
Shit Genetic fat stores, We weren't all made equal
sodium
Youth fat stores, any youngcels reading this, have no fear your fat redistribution is near. By 20 years old your cheeks will begin to hallow naturally even at higher BF%
Weight loss, first and foremost. This is by far gonna give you more results than all of the aforementioned maxxes. Life doesnt start until 12% BF
The best fat loss drugs are DNP and Clenbuteral, don't waste your time with shit like ostarine.
40MCG of clen will have you shaking so hard it will have people thinking your schizo
Gua sha, is a meme AF but it honestly gives instant results for lymphatic drainage
View attachment 2843207
Sauna, 20 minutes will sweat out all water, pair this with jump rope as its the fast way to lymphatic drain
-FILLER
View attachment 2843211
Filler will give instant ogee, its not as ideal compared to zygomatic implants but im including it because you can DIY it.
aesthetics-shop.com is a good source for filler and botox. Just be careful if you nick a vein its GG.
you can fraud all the bones with filler I talked about
Tags
@Orc @pneumocystosis @SteveRogers @NorwoodAscender @dragomaxxer @TechnoBoss @coispet @Squirtle @Mike141 @NotCarv @CoreSchizo @TikiXVI
you don't know unless you trydoes my 16yo genghis khani ass have any luck debloating?My forward growth and gonial angle is shit and my collarbones are protruding like crazy making me look like a skeleton almost like jordan so im not fat. Please answer
View attachment 2844495
I already have 12 in
do you noticed any difference? any before and after pictures?
