Ogee curve

[mog_or_be_mogged]

another high iq thread by an autistic chad, read every single molecule boyo

 

[dragomaxxer]

better see this in BOTB, so much useful hardmaxxing and softmaxxing info in one singular thread is rare nowadays

 

[tyronelite]

Great thread

 

[ChadL1te]

good thread once again, tag me in these non-water threads if u can

 

[Softboymaxx]

The Ogee curve is an extremely important feature for attractiveness in men and women
View attachment 2842865View attachment 2842867
makes the difference between a chad & a normie


-Been a while since I created a guide, figured id explain the methods im working on.
View attachment 2842857
after @CoreSchizo 's pathetic attempt at a DIY buccal fat removal, Someone needed to provide safer alternatives.

I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF (⚠️ GRAPHIC)

I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF I messed up, I went too high when trying to cut it out and hit something that made me start bleeding everywhere. I watched the surgery video, and the person didn't bleed this much. That's how I know I messed it up I still managed to pull out the fat...

looksmax.org

Understanding the bones/tissue that cause the ogee curve

-ZYGOS
View attachment 2842869

Hollow cheeks are caused by lateral zygomatic projection as well as frontal prominence.


-Gonions/Jaw
View attachment 2842876

The gonion shape will cause hallows also, more flared gonions and a wider bigonial width will stretch your face and create that look.


-Masseter Muscles


View attachment 2842893


View attachment 2842895

I included a video of myself flexing my masseter in the sun to show how it chisels my face, hypertrophy of the masseters with have this effect if they have proper insertions

View attachment 2842903View attachment 2842905

Examples of elite, low masseter insertions. High masseter setness is a death sentence for hypertrophy enthusiasts. Also the pterygomasseteric sling in the gif posted above is extremely aesthetic jfl.


tldr here, only hypertrophy your masseters if they are low set.

you will look like a bloated pig if you chew with unideal masseters. If this is you, botox.




-Chin

View attachment 2842921

Having strong chin projection can have a small effect on the soft tissue but barely. A chin wing osteotomy or genioplasty can be best for achieving this while also tightening the masseters.


-Taller skull
View attachment 2842945

Having a taller skull and total FWHR will cause you to be less prone to bloating. Skull size is not a cope, Tyler Mahers skull allows him to be effortlessly debloated.




Ok, now you understand the things that will cause tightness of the soft tissue

-here's the tissue that causes you to bloat


-Buccal fat pads
View attachment 2842956

This small fat store can make or break hallow cheeks, removal or atrophy of the buccal pad will almost always lead to hallow cheeks

View attachment 2842961

Buccal pad removal results, instant OG.


You can easily self perform this surgery, im gonna try this shit eventually. Just dont remove more than 30-50%.


-The parotid duct/gland.
View attachment 2842977

Atrophying the parotid duct via botox should lead to a better ogee according to @SteveRogers , going to consult a few more people on this because its not talked abt anywhere on the internet currently

-4 units of botox to the parotid, your jordan barrett instantly.
View attachment 2842991
expectable results


-Bonus
The buccinators also hypertrophy when you eat with large bites, When I use to eat with a serving spoon on my bulk I hypertrophied my buccinators. Mewing while swallowing avoids activating them, and eating small bites.



How to actually atrophy the buccal fat pad via injection lipolysis

-Lipo Agents ranked

Lipolab
Aqualux
Kybella
Lemon/pine bottle

I tried lemonbottle and it was objectively shit and no non placebo results after 16 mL into buccals

Trying Lipo Lab when it arrives, allegedly 85% Atrophy of the fat in studies.



heres my attempt at lemon bottle, good guide on how to properly inject lipo agents


The Maxilla also has influence on the ogee curve
View attachment 2843023



Here's an aspie video of barrett showing how his maxilla contributes to his hallow cheeks.

View attachment 2843148

to improve the alveolar bones you can create volume via PDO threads.

View attachment 2843151

sorry for image quality but threading here to create volume will help. I recommend using multi-threads to be able to insert more efficiently
blunt tipped multis (just get the 30g version)





Bloat

Bloat is the cuprite for most people not having hallow cheeks. Heres some debloating tips

Potassium Chloride

Why does no one talk about this underrated debloat supplement ?? +tips

I didnt post about Potassium Chloride because I figured it was water, but Apparently not? Potassium Chloride (KCL) is an extremely cheap and effective supplement to regulate sodium/potassium balance and have a debloated face Potassium chloride on amazon (source I use, literally giga...

looksmax.org

Quickest debloat supplement, results in 30 minutes.



Furosemide, best diuretic. 80 Mg every 3-5 days will do the trick
https://www.bgpharmadrugs.com/cart/



Water Cycling

Day 1- Limit water as much as possible
Day 2- 1/2 gallon
Day 3- 1/2 gallon
day 4- 1 gallon
day 5- 2 gallon
day 6- 1/2 gallon
day 7- 1/2 gallon


View attachment 2843165


Low salt, less sodium. Sodium causes bloat. @pneumocystosis good find


Eating less Carbs, entering a state of ketosis is ideal. 100g or less per day


-taking preworkout with a large amount of water, I drink preworkout with .5 Gal of water because it causes me to piss more often.



-Some other causes of bloat

high androgen levels
View attachment 2843180


Despite being lean, nick walker is bloated AF. After 400mg of test you will get bloated. Telmisartan helped my bloat while I was on test.



High estrogen

Estrogen bloat from aromatase is just as common when on steroids or even for naturals, estrogen contributes to higher facial fat. You can reduce this with 10mg of aromasin
(aminoasylum.shop)





High aldosterone
View attachment 2843192

throws off sodium potassium balance


Inflammation in buccinators from eating large bites, mew while swallowing


Shit Genetic fat stores, We weren't all made equal


sodiumotassium ratio, should try to go for 3:1 ideally. If your gonna go with carbs eat sweet potatoes as they are high in potassium


Youth fat stores, any youngcels reading this, have no fear your fat redistribution is near. By 20 years old your cheeks will begin to hallow naturally even at higher BF%


Weight loss, first and foremost. This is by far gonna give you more results than all of the aforementioned maxxes. Life doesnt start until 12% BF


The best fat loss drugs are DNP and Clenbuteral, don't waste your time with shit like ostarine.

40MCG of clen will have you shaking so hard it will have people thinking your schizo


Gua sha, is a meme AF but it honestly gives instant results for lymphatic drainage
View attachment 2843207

Sauna, 20 minutes will sweat out all water, pair this with jump rope as its the fast way to lymphatic drain




-FILLER
View attachment 2843211

Filler will give instant ogee, its not as ideal compared to zygomatic implants but im including it because you can DIY it.

aesthetics-shop.com is a good source for filler and botox. Just be careful if you nick a vein its GG.

you can fraud all the bones with filler I talked about


Tags
@Orc @pneumocystosis @SteveRogers @NorwoodAscender @dragomaxxer @TechnoBoss @coispet @Squirtle @Mike141 @NotCarv @CoreSchizo @TikiXVI

Do you think water weight is held in the subcutaneous fat?

 

[Phillybeard1996]

Check dm I have a question

 

[mnbvcxz]

tldr here, only hypertrophy your masseters if they are low set.

you will look like a bloated pig if you chew with unideal masseters. If this is you, botox.

im more worried about this bro, can someone show me what low set vs high set masseters look like?? idk if i have low or high im bloated rn so i cant see it being flexed but i can feel it tighten with my finger, i cant tell whats low or high tho

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

Maybe a bit but its a bit outside the nasolabial folds typically

Its just ur maxilla, you can fix it with pdos easily

Nasolabial folds are usually cause of recessed lower maxilla right? Or is it the whole maxilla?

 

[aestheticsrespecter]

well done

 

[Rawprimalooks]

The Ogee curve is an extremely important feature for attractiveness in men and women
View attachment 2842865View attachment 2842867
makes the difference between a chad & a normie


-Been a while since I created a guide, figured id explain the methods im working on.
View attachment 2842857
after @CoreSchizo 's pathetic attempt at a DIY buccal fat removal, Someone needed to provide safer alternatives.

I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF (⚠️ GRAPHIC)

I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF I messed up, I went too high when trying to cut it out and hit something that made me start bleeding everywhere. I watched the surgery video, and the person didn't bleed this much. That's how I know I messed it up I still managed to pull out the fat...

looksmax.org

Understanding the bones/tissue that cause the ogee curve

-ZYGOS
View attachment 2842869

Hollow cheeks are caused by lateral zygomatic projection as well as frontal prominence.


-Gonions/Jaw
View attachment 2842876

The gonion shape will cause hallows also, more flared gonions and a wider bigonial width will stretch your face and create that look.


-Masseter Muscles


View attachment 2842893


View attachment 2842895

I included a video of myself flexing my masseter in the sun to show how it chisels my face, hypertrophy of the masseters with have this effect if they have proper insertions

View attachment 2842903View attachment 2842905

Examples of elite, low masseter insertions. High masseter setness is a death sentence for hypertrophy enthusiasts. Also the pterygomasseteric sling in the gif posted above is extremely aesthetic jfl.


tldr here, only hypertrophy your masseters if they are low set.

you will look like a bloated pig if you chew with unideal masseters. If this is you, botox.




-Chin

View attachment 2842921

Having strong chin projection can have a small effect on the soft tissue but barely. A chin wing osteotomy or genioplasty can be best for achieving this while also tightening the masseters.


-Taller skull
View attachment 2842945

Having a taller skull and total FWHR will cause you to be less prone to bloating. Skull size is not a cope, Tyler Mahers skull allows him to be effortlessly debloated.




Ok, now you understand the things that will cause tightness of the soft tissue

-here's the tissue that causes you to bloat


-Buccal fat pads
View attachment 2842956

This small fat store can make or break hallow cheeks, removal or atrophy of the buccal pad will almost always lead to hallow cheeks

View attachment 2842961

Buccal pad removal results, instant OG.


You can easily self perform this surgery, im gonna try this shit eventually. Just dont remove more than 30-50%.


-The parotid duct/gland.
View attachment 2842977

Atrophying the parotid duct via botox should lead to a better ogee according to @SteveRogers , going to consult a few more people on this because its not talked abt anywhere on the internet currently

-4 units of botox to the parotid, your jordan barrett instantly.
View attachment 2842991
expectable results


-Bonus
The buccinators also hypertrophy when you eat with large bites, When I use to eat with a serving spoon on my bulk I hypertrophied my buccinators. Mewing while swallowing avoids activating them, and eating small bites.



How to actually atrophy the buccal fat pad via injection lipolysis

-Lipo Agents ranked

Lipolab
Aqualux
Kybella
Lemon/pine bottle

I tried lemonbottle and it was objectively shit and no non placebo results after 16 mL into buccals

Trying Lipo Lab when it arrives, allegedly 85% Atrophy of the fat in studies.



heres my attempt at lemon bottle, good guide on how to properly inject lipo agents


The Maxilla also has influence on the ogee curve
View attachment 2843023



Here's an aspie video of barrett showing how his maxilla contributes to his hallow cheeks.

View attachment 2843148

to improve the alveolar bones you can create volume via PDO threads.

View attachment 2843151

sorry for image quality but threading here to create volume will help. I recommend using multi-threads to be able to insert more efficiently
blunt tipped multis (just get the 30g version)





Bloat

Bloat is the cuprite for most people not having hallow cheeks. Heres some debloating tips

Potassium Chloride

Why does no one talk about this underrated debloat supplement ?? +tips

I didnt post about Potassium Chloride because I figured it was water, but Apparently not? Potassium Chloride (KCL) is an extremely cheap and effective supplement to regulate sodium/potassium balance and have a debloated face Potassium chloride on amazon (source I use, literally giga...

looksmax.org

Quickest debloat supplement, results in 30 minutes.



Furosemide, best diuretic. 80 Mg every 3-5 days will do the trick
https://www.bgpharmadrugs.com/cart/



Water Cycling

Day 1- Limit water as much as possible
Day 2- 1/2 gallon
Day 3- 1/2 gallon
day 4- 1 gallon
day 5- 2 gallon
day 6- 1/2 gallon
day 7- 1/2 gallon


View attachment 2843165


Low salt, less sodium. Sodium causes bloat. @pneumocystosis good find


Eating less Carbs, entering a state of ketosis is ideal. 100g or less per day


-taking preworkout with a large amount of water, I drink preworkout with .5 Gal of water because it causes me to piss more often.



-Some other causes of bloat

high androgen levels
View attachment 2843180


Despite being lean, nick walker is bloated AF. After 400mg of test you will get bloated. Telmisartan helped my bloat while I was on test.



High estrogen

Estrogen bloat from aromatase is just as common when on steroids or even for naturals, estrogen contributes to higher facial fat. You can reduce this with 10mg of aromasin
(aminoasylum.shop)





High aldosterone
View attachment 2843192

throws off sodium potassium balance


Inflammation in buccinators from eating large bites, mew while swallowing


Shit Genetic fat stores, We weren't all made equal


sodiumotassium ratio, should try to go for 3:1 ideally. If your gonna go with carbs eat sweet potatoes as they are high in potassium


Youth fat stores, any youngcels reading this, have no fear your fat redistribution is near. By 20 years old your cheeks will begin to hallow naturally even at higher BF%


Weight loss, first and foremost. This is by far gonna give you more results than all of the aforementioned maxxes. Life doesnt start until 12% BF


The best fat loss drugs are DNP and Clenbuteral, don't waste your time with shit like ostarine.

40MCG of clen will have you shaking so hard it will have people thinking your schizo


Gua sha, is a meme AF but it honestly gives instant results for lymphatic drainage
View attachment 2843207

Sauna, 20 minutes will sweat out all water, pair this with jump rope as its the fast way to lymphatic drain




-FILLER
View attachment 2843211

Filler will give instant ogee, its not as ideal compared to zygomatic implants but im including it because you can DIY it.

aesthetics-shop.com is a good source for filler and botox. Just be careful if you nick a vein its GG.

you can fraud all the bones with filler I talked about


Tags
@Orc @pneumocystosis @SteveRogers @NorwoodAscender @dragomaxxer @TechnoBoss @coispet @Squirtle @Mike141 @NotCarv @CoreSchizo @TikiXVI

I hate that curve i try to hide by gaining fat

 

[mtcut3plush]

I included a video of myself flexing my masseter in the sun to show how it chisels my face, hypertrophy of the masseters with have this effect if they have proper insertions

Examples of elite, low masseter insertions. High masseter setness is a death sentence for hypertrophy enthusiasts. Also the pterygomasseteric sling in the

who's the chad with dark hair

 

[mirrormogger]

so if your face looks more angular when you flex massateers you should chew?

 

[chadintraining]

you will look like a bloated pig if you chew with unideal masseters. If this is you, botox.

Would implants or fillers be good for a wider, sharper jaw if your insertions are bad

 

[truecel12]

d

I also ordered lipolab lmfao, pinebottle did nothing , good thread though

did lipolab end up working

 

[chawaje]

Wrong, hollow cheeks dont cone from wide jaw but cheekbones wider than the jaw

 

[ㅤㅤㅤㅤClavicular]

Wrong, hollow cheeks dont cone from wide jaw but cheekbones wider than the jaw

theres tons of factors at play as I mentioned

jut your jaw forward and down and notice how ur skin is tighter

 

[Rawprimalooks]

I have thi

The Ogee curve is an extremely important feature for attractiveness in men and women
View attachment 2842865View attachment 2842867
makes the difference between a chad & a normie


-Been a while since I created a guide, figured id explain the methods im working on.
View attachment 2842857
after @CoreSchizo 's pathetic attempt at a DIY buccal fat removal, Someone needed to provide safer alternatives.

I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF (⚠️ GRAPHIC)

I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF I messed up, I went too high when trying to cut it out and hit something that made me start bleeding everywhere. I watched the surgery video, and the person didn't bleed this much. That's how I know I messed it up I still managed to pull out the fat...

looksmax.org

Understanding the bones/tissue that cause the ogee curve

-ZYGOS
View attachment 2842869

Hollow cheeks are caused by lateral zygomatic projection as well as frontal prominence.


-Gonions/Jaw
View attachment 2842876

The gonion shape will cause hallows also, more flared gonions and a wider bigonial width will stretch your face and create that look.


-Masseter Muscles


View attachment 2842893


View attachment 2842895

I included a video of myself flexing my masseter in the sun to show how it chisels my face, hypertrophy of the masseters with have this effect if they have proper insertions

View attachment 2842903View attachment 2842905

Examples of elite, low masseter insertions. High masseter setness is a death sentence for hypertrophy enthusiasts. Also the pterygomasseteric sling in the gif posted above is extremely aesthetic jfl.


tldr here, only hypertrophy your masseters if they are low set.

you will look like a bloated pig if you chew with unideal masseters. If this is you, botox.




-Chin

View attachment 2842921

Having strong chin projection can have a small effect on the soft tissue but barely. A chin wing osteotomy or genioplasty can be best for achieving this while also tightening the masseters.


-Taller skull
View attachment 2842945

Having a taller skull and total FWHR will cause you to be less prone to bloating. Skull size is not a cope, Tyler Mahers skull allows him to be effortlessly debloated.




Ok, now you understand the things that will cause tightness of the soft tissue

-here's the tissue that causes you to bloat


-Buccal fat pads
View attachment 2842956

This small fat store can make or break hallow cheeks, removal or atrophy of the buccal pad will almost always lead to hallow cheeks

View attachment 2842961

Buccal pad removal results, instant OG.


You can easily self perform this surgery, im gonna try this shit eventually. Just dont remove more than 30-50%.


-The parotid duct/gland.
View attachment 2842977

Atrophying the parotid duct via botox should lead to a better ogee according to @SteveRogers , going to consult a few more people on this because its not talked abt anywhere on the internet currently

-4 units of botox to the parotid, your jordan barrett instantly.
View attachment 2842991
expectable results


-Bonus
The buccinators also hypertrophy when you eat with large bites, When I use to eat with a serving spoon on my bulk I hypertrophied my buccinators. Mewing while swallowing avoids activating them, and eating small bites.



How to actually atrophy the buccal fat pad via injection lipolysis

-Lipo Agents ranked

Lipolab
Aqualux
Kybella
Lemon/pine bottle

I tried lemonbottle and it was objectively shit and no non placebo results after 16 mL into buccals

Trying Lipo Lab when it arrives, allegedly 85% Atrophy of the fat in studies.



heres my attempt at lemon bottle, good guide on how to properly inject lipo agents


The Maxilla also has influence on the ogee curve
View attachment 2843023



Here's an aspie video of barrett showing how his maxilla contributes to his hallow cheeks.

View attachment 2843148

to improve the alveolar bones you can create volume via PDO threads.

View attachment 2843151

sorry for image quality but threading here to create volume will help. I recommend using multi-threads to be able to insert more efficiently
blunt tipped multis (just get the 30g version)





Bloat

Bloat is the cuprite for most people not having hallow cheeks. Heres some debloating tips

Potassium Chloride

Why does no one talk about this underrated debloat supplement ?? +tips

I didnt post about Potassium Chloride because I figured it was water, but Apparently not? Potassium Chloride (KCL) is an extremely cheap and effective supplement to regulate sodium/potassium balance and have a debloated face Potassium chloride on amazon (source I use, literally giga...

looksmax.org

Quickest debloat supplement, results in 30 minutes.



Furosemide, best diuretic. 80 Mg every 3-5 days will do the trick
https://www.bgpharmadrugs.com/cart/



Water Cycling

Day 1- Limit water as much as possible
Day 2- 1/2 gallon
Day 3- 1/2 gallon
day 4- 1 gallon
day 5- 2 gallon
day 6- 1/2 gallon
day 7- 1/2 gallon


View attachment 2843165


Low salt, less sodium. Sodium causes bloat. @pneumocystosis good find


Eating less Carbs, entering a state of ketosis is ideal. 100g or less per day


-taking preworkout with a large amount of water, I drink preworkout with .5 Gal of water because it causes me to piss more often.



-Some other causes of bloat

high androgen levels
View attachment 2843180


Despite being lean, nick walker is bloated AF. After 400mg of test you will get bloated. Telmisartan helped my bloat while I was on test.



High estrogen

Estrogen bloat from aromatase is just as common when on steroids or even for naturals, estrogen contributes to higher facial fat. You can reduce this with 10mg of aromasin
(aminoasylum.shop)





High aldosterone
View attachment 2843192

throws off sodium potassium balance


Inflammation in buccinators from eating large bites, mew while swallowing


Shit Genetic fat stores, We weren't all made equal


sodiumotassium ratio, should try to go for 3:1 ideally. If your gonna go with carbs eat sweet potatoes as they are high in potassium


Youth fat stores, any youngcels reading this, have no fear your fat redistribution is near. By 20 years old your cheeks will begin to hallow naturally even at higher BF%


Weight loss, first and foremost. This is by far gonna give you more results than all of the aforementioned maxxes. Life doesnt start until 12% BF


The best fat loss drugs are DNP and Clenbuteral, don't waste your time with shit like ostarine.

40MCG of clen will have you shaking so hard it will have people thinking your schizo


Gua sha, is a meme AF but it honestly gives instant results for lymphatic drainage
View attachment 2843207

Sauna, 20 minutes will sweat out all water, pair this with jump rope as its the fast way to lymphatic drain




-FILLER
View attachment 2843211

Filler will give instant ogee, its not as ideal compared to zygomatic implants but im including it because you can DIY it.

aesthetics-shop.com is a good source for filler and botox. Just be careful if you nick a vein its GG.

you can fraud all the bones with filler I talked about


Tags
@Orc @pneumocystosis @SteveRogers @NorwoodAscender @dragomaxxer @TechnoBoss @coispet @Squirtle @Mike141 @NotCarv @CoreSchizo @TikiXVI

I have this but try to hide

 

[ㅤㅤㅤㅤClavicular]

I have thi

I have this but try to hide

why its a good feature

 

[JizzFarmer]

Great thread, read every word. Have you tried doing the multithreads to create volume in the midface and did it work?

 

[Greypiller]

The Ogee curve is an extremely important feature for attractiveness in men and women
View attachment 2842865View attachment 2842867
makes the difference between a chad & a normie


-Been a while since I created a guide, figured id explain the methods im working on.
View attachment 2842857
after @CoreSchizo 's pathetic attempt at a DIY buccal fat removal, Someone needed to provide safer alternatives.

I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF (⚠️ GRAPHIC)

I PERFORMED BUCCAL FAT REMOVAL ON MYSELF I messed up, I went too high when trying to cut it out and hit something that made me start bleeding everywhere. I watched the surgery video, and the person didn't bleed this much. That's how I know I messed it up I still managed to pull out the fat...

looksmax.org

Understanding the bones/tissue that cause the ogee curve

-ZYGOS
View attachment 2842869

Hollow cheeks are caused by lateral zygomatic projection as well as frontal prominence.


-Gonions/Jaw
View attachment 2842876

The gonion shape will cause hallows also, more flared gonions and a wider bigonial width will stretch your face and create that look.


-Masseter Muscles


View attachment 2842893


View attachment 2842895

I included a video of myself flexing my masseter in the sun to show how it chisels my face, hypertrophy of the masseters with have this effect if they have proper insertions

View attachment 2842903View attachment 2842905

Examples of elite, low masseter insertions. High masseter setness is a death sentence for hypertrophy enthusiasts. Also the pterygomasseteric sling in the gif posted above is extremely aesthetic jfl.


tldr here, only hypertrophy your masseters if they are low set.

you will look like a bloated pig if you chew with unideal masseters. If this is you, botox.




-Chin

View attachment 2842921

Having strong chin projection can have a small effect on the soft tissue but barely. A chin wing osteotomy or genioplasty can be best for achieving this while also tightening the masseters.


-Taller skull
View attachment 2842945

Having a taller skull and total FWHR will cause you to be less prone to bloating. Skull size is not a cope, Tyler Mahers skull allows him to be effortlessly debloated.




Ok, now you understand the things that will cause tightness of the soft tissue

-here's the tissue that causes you to bloat


-Buccal fat pads
View attachment 2842956

This small fat store can make or break hallow cheeks, removal or atrophy of the buccal pad will almost always lead to hallow cheeks

View attachment 2842961

Buccal pad removal results, instant OG.


You can easily self perform this surgery, im gonna try this shit eventually. Just dont remove more than 30-50%.


-The parotid duct/gland.
View attachment 2842977

Atrophying the parotid duct via botox should lead to a better ogee according to @SteveRogers , going to consult a few more people on this because its not talked abt anywhere on the internet currently

-4 units of botox to the parotid, your jordan barrett instantly.
View attachment 2842991
expectable results


-Bonus
The buccinators also hypertrophy when you eat with large bites, When I use to eat with a serving spoon on my bulk I hypertrophied my buccinators. Mewing while swallowing avoids activating them, and eating small bites.



How to actually atrophy the buccal fat pad via injection lipolysis

-Lipo Agents ranked

Lipolab
Aqualux
Kybella
Lemon/pine bottle

I tried lemonbottle and it was objectively shit and no non placebo results after 16 mL into buccals

Trying Lipo Lab when it arrives, allegedly 85% Atrophy of the fat in studies.



heres my attempt at lemon bottle, good guide on how to properly inject lipo agents


The Maxilla also has influence on the ogee curve
View attachment 2843023



Here's an aspie video of barrett showing how his maxilla contributes to his hallow cheeks.

View attachment 2843148

to improve the alveolar bones you can create volume via PDO threads.

View attachment 2843151

sorry for image quality but threading here to create volume will help. I recommend using multi-threads to be able to insert more efficiently
blunt tipped multis (just get the 30g version)





Bloat

Bloat is the cuprite for most people not having hallow cheeks. Heres some debloating tips

Potassium Chloride

Why does no one talk about this underrated debloat supplement ?? +tips

I didnt post about Potassium Chloride because I figured it was water, but Apparently not? Potassium Chloride (KCL) is an extremely cheap and effective supplement to regulate sodium/potassium balance and have a debloated face Potassium chloride on amazon (source I use, literally giga...

looksmax.org

Quickest debloat supplement, results in 30 minutes.



Furosemide, best diuretic. 80 Mg every 3-5 days will do the trick
https://www.bgpharmadrugs.com/cart/



Water Cycling

Day 1- Limit water as much as possible
Day 2- 1/2 gallon
Day 3- 1/2 gallon
day 4- 1 gallon
day 5- 2 gallon
day 6- 1/2 gallon
day 7- 1/2 gallon


View attachment 2843165


Low salt, less sodium. Sodium causes bloat. @pneumocystosis good find


Eating less Carbs, entering a state of ketosis is ideal. 100g or less per day


-taking preworkout with a large amount of water, I drink preworkout with .5 Gal of water because it causes me to piss more often.



-Some other causes of bloat

high androgen levels
View attachment 2843180


Despite being lean, nick walker is bloated AF. After 400mg of test you will get bloated. Telmisartan helped my bloat while I was on test.



High estrogen

Estrogen bloat from aromatase is just as common when on steroids or even for naturals, estrogen contributes to higher facial fat. You can reduce this with 10mg of aromasin
(aminoasylum.shop)





High aldosterone
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throws off sodium potassium balance


Inflammation in buccinators from eating large bites, mew while swallowing


Shit Genetic fat stores, We weren't all made equal


sodiumotassium ratio, should try to go for 3:1 ideally. If your gonna go with carbs eat sweet potatoes as they are high in potassium


Youth fat stores, any youngcels reading this, have no fear your fat redistribution is near. By 20 years old your cheeks will begin to hallow naturally even at higher BF%


Weight loss, first and foremost. This is by far gonna give you more results than all of the aforementioned maxxes. Life doesnt start until 12% BF


The best fat loss drugs are DNP and Clenbuteral, don't waste your time with shit like ostarine.

40MCG of clen will have you shaking so hard it will have people thinking your schizo


Gua sha, is a meme AF but it honestly gives instant results for lymphatic drainage
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Sauna, 20 minutes will sweat out all water, pair this with jump rope as its the fast way to lymphatic drain




-FILLER
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Filler will give instant ogee, its not as ideal compared to zygomatic implants but im including it because you can DIY it.

aesthetics-shop.com is a good source for filler and botox. Just be careful if you nick a vein its GG.

you can fraud all the bones with filler I talked about


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another high iq thread from @Clavicular

 

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I had people spamming "water" on a thread about osteoblast/osteoclast interaction... Literally no one on the forum even knew what it was

Can u link this thread bhai