Okay. I will give away the last looksmaxxing secret.

[naygerPSL]

Dual incretins (twincretins)

This is how you get lean even if your genetic base is 15%>.

You can get Vinnie Hacker level lean on a 5mg , 10mg or 15mg dose over the course of 5-12 months depending from where you start.
This is the biggest looksmax. Your appetite will be completely gone. Hunger signals to the brain, gone. No jitteryness like with stims because incretins just get rid of the hunger. You will essentially be able to stick to a diet. Why am I making this public? Because it costs $20-25k per year to source Mounjaro (Tirzepatide).
Benefits
Your face will change and you will lose all facial fat eventually. (Barrett is clearly on Mounjaro for his modelling)

Been a secret for so long but no one here is moneymaxxed enough to actually afford it.

The end result.

If anyone is interested in learning more and sourcing. PM me.


I might have fucked up. If normies start using Mounjaro, it's over. But I'm banking on the fact that it's too expensive anyway.

Anyway there you go. No more threads about clen, dnp, t3, ephedrine etc... Done all of them in the past. Tirzepatide is the only thing that can get you to sub 9% bodyfat year round and will sharpen all your facial features, give you insane veins on your hands, a v-taper femalegazed body.

Enjoy....

This is unironically the best, most informative thread I've ever made and that included all the <2020 threads combined, even the @x30001 ones

My friend died from ozempic. He was blasting gear and didnt do bloods. Then he gained a fuck ton of weight and loss 20lbs in one month to cut from ozempic. Few weeks later he died from heart attack.
Honestly i wouldn’t fuck with any of these unless youre getting everything checked and have money

 

[Deleted member 128036]

niggas will take medicine made for niggas with diabetes instead of calorie deficit + cardio lmao

 

[naygerPSL]

niggas will take medicine made for niggas with diabetes instead of calorie deficit + cardio lmao

True but in cases top models can be lazy and they want to eat whatever the fuck they want. Also if they can just afford why not

 

[Deleted member 128036]

True but in cases top models can be lazy and they want to eat whatever the fuck they want. Also if they can just afford why not

i guess but for the average guy not worth it lol

 

[Seth Walsh]

You shouldn't be taking this shit really.

 

[saynotoshredding]

oh... I'm like 10-12% bf but facial features are not sharp. Will this help remove stubborn facial fat?

I’m absolutely unqualified to say this. I didn’t even read the whole post. But from my understanding drugs like this and ozempic only stop you feeling hungry. The fat loss is from a change in your behaviour

Hence why fat fucks don’t need ozempic and could just simply not eat

 

[the foid stalker]

Im 30% body fat will mounjaro help me lose fat

 

[FiendFiend]

I eat once a day and I do not lose any weight.

refeed days with lots of water, eat higher protein, take vitamins. Will fix ur metabolism. Also go for a walk even if its like 10-20 minute

 

[fifi.mogy]

is it safe at the age of 15??

 

[s3b4stian]

Hm definetly good for me to d

Dual incretins (twincretins)

This is how you get lean even if your genetic base is 15%>.

You can get Vinnie Hacker level lean on a 5mg , 10mg or 15mg dose over the course of 5-12 months depending from where you start.
This is the biggest looksmax. Your appetite will be completely gone. Hunger signals to the brain, gone. No jitteryness like with stims because incretins just get rid of the hunger. You will essentially be able to stick to a diet. Why am I making this public? Because it costs $20-25k per year to source Mounjaro (Tirzepatide).
Benefits
Your face will change and you will lose all facial fat eventually. (Barrett is clearly on Mounjaro for his modelling)

Been a secret for so long but no one here is moneymaxxed enough to actually afford it.

The end result.

If anyone is interested in learning more and sourcing. PM me.


I might have fucked up. If normies start using Mounjaro, it's over. But I'm banking on the fact that it's too expensive anyway.

Anyway there you go. No more threads about clen, dnp, t3, ephedrine etc... Done all of them in the past. Tirzepatide is the only thing that can get you to sub 9% bodyfat year round and will sharpen all your facial features, give you insane veins on your hands, a v-taper femalegazed body.

Enjoy....

This is unironically the best, most informative thread I've ever made and that included all the <2020 threads combined, even the @x30001 ones

o at 15

 

[Seth Walsh]

Hm definetly good for me to d

o at 15

No not wise to inject that shit as a 15 year old.

 

[Dankforce1]

JFL at people who think they need drugs to get lean. You certainly don't need drugs to get as lean as any of the photos posted

If you're that much of a pussy that you can't diet down and get lean without some expensive medication, you were destined to be a KHHV anyways. Have some dicipline lmfao

 

[suicidemonkey]

Dual incretins (twincretins)

This is how you get lean even if your genetic base is 15%>.

You can get Vinnie Hacker level lean on a 5mg , 10mg or 15mg dose over the course of 5-12 months depending from where you start.
This is the biggest looksmax. Your appetite will be completely gone. Hunger signals to the brain, gone. No jitteryness like with stims because incretins just get rid of the hunger. You will essentially be able to stick to a diet. Why am I making this public? Because it costs $20-25k per year to source Mounjaro (Tirzepatide).
Benefits
Your face will change and you will lose all facial fat eventually. (Barrett is clearly on Mounjaro for his modelling)

Been a secret for so long but no one here is moneymaxxed enough to actually afford it.

The end result.

If anyone is interested in learning more and sourcing. PM me.


I might have fucked up. If normies start using Mounjaro, it's over. But I'm banking on the fact that it's too expensive anyway.

Anyway there you go. No more threads about clen, dnp, t3, ephedrine etc... Done all of them in the past. Tirzepatide is the only thing that can get you to sub 9% bodyfat year round and will sharpen all your facial features, give you insane veins on your hands, a v-taper femalegazed body.

Enjoy....

This is unironically the best, most informative thread I've ever made and that included all the <2020 threads combined, even the @x30001 ones

Nigga
1. Getting lean will not make you look like Vinnie Hacker
2. The guys in those photos have muscle, most users would look like skeletons

9% body fat is unhealthy, maybe 13-15% would be a realistic range for most people.

 

[xasg]

Dual incretins (twincretins)

This is how you get lean even if your genetic base is 15%>.

You can get Vinnie Hacker level lean on a 5mg , 10mg or 15mg dose over the course of 5-12 months depending from where you start.
This is the biggest looksmax. Your appetite will be completely gone. Hunger signals to the brain, gone. No jitteryness like with stims because incretins just get rid of the hunger. You will essentially be able to stick to a diet. Why am I making this public? Because it costs $20-25k per year to source Mounjaro (Tirzepatide).
Benefits
Your face will change and you will lose all facial fat eventually. (Barrett is clearly on Mounjaro for his modelling)

Been a secret for so long but no one here is moneymaxxed enough to actually afford it.

The end result.

If anyone is interested in learning more and sourcing. PM me.


I might have fucked up. If normies start using Mounjaro, it's over. But I'm banking on the fact that it's too expensive anyway.

Anyway there you go. No more threads about clen, dnp, t3, ephedrine etc... Done all of them in the past. Tirzepatide is the only thing that can get you to sub 9% bodyfat year round and will sharpen all your facial features, give you insane veins on your hands, a v-taper femalegazed body.

Enjoy....

This is unironically the best, most informative thread I've ever made and that included all the <2020 threads combined, even the @x30001 ones

source?

 

[Deleted member 157969]

Is this backed up by research?

 

[Seth Walsh]

source?

Do a web search

 

[Chad]

If you're that much of a pussy that you can't diet down and get lean without some expensive medication, you were destined to be a KHHV anyways. Have some dicipline lmfao

Explain to me, who the fuck wants to use discipline and willpower to lose weight? No one. Not a single fucking soul.

No one gives a flying fuck wether you lost weight via willpower or not. If you got something to prove to yourself, then fine, go do it with fucking willpower, but you are a bit of a retard for doing so.

Anyone else that would rather not suffer for months on end with discipline and willpower, and rather put that effort and energy towards something useful, like making money, or anything else, and not have their mind consumed with food and their diet 24/7.

There isn't a single valid reason not to use them, you fucking jester. Not one. Quite frankly, dropping fat without GLP1s is retarded.

You need to commit suicide, it's imperative.

 

[Deleted member 114837]

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Explain to me, who the fuck wants to use discipline and willpower to lose weight? No one. Not a single fucking soul.

No one gives a flying fuck wether you lost weight via willpower or not. If you got something to prove to yourself, then fine, go do it with fucking willpower, but you are a bit of a retard for doing so.

Anyone else that would rather not suffer for months on end with discipline and willpower, and rather put that effort and energy towards something useful, like making money, or anything else, and not have their mind consumed with food and their diet 24/7.

There isn't a single valid reason not to use them, you fucking jester. Not one. Quite frankly, dropping fat without GLP1s is retarded.

You need to commit suicide, it's imperative.

Retardation. Your point would make a tiny bit of amount of meaning IF sema didn't have all those horrendous side effects.
It's not like finasteride where it has sides but if you don't take it you go bald, so you have to accept it, and take it.
Here, you can LOSE weight if you want, and have a more wholesome diet, without the need of any medication, sure it will be harder but it will be way safer.
I suffered permanent side effects from sema and many of the people i know did too. To me you seem like a fucking larp, you inject every drug available supposedly and yet have no sides. uhmmmm, and you're on org acting like you're a chad, uhmmm. Reminds me of a pattern.

And i love @Seth Walsh He IQ mogs you to oblivion, but with all due respect to him, sema isn't made for most people, the sides are way too high. If you don't get any then be it, but i'm not taking the risk again.

 

[Seth Walsh]

Retardation. Your point would make a tiny bit of amount of meaning IF sema didn't have all those horrendous side effects.
It's not like finasteride where it has sides but if you don't take it you go bald, so you have to accept it, and take it.
Here, you can LOSE weight if you want, and have a more wholesome diet, without the need of any medication, sure it will be harder but it will be way safer.
I suffered permanent side effects from sema and many of the people i know did too. To me you seem like a fucking larp, you inject every drug available supposedly and yet have no sides. uhmmmm, and you're on org acting like you're a chad, uhmmm. Reminds me of a pattern.

And i love @Seth Walsh He IQ mogs you to oblivion, but with all due respect to him, sema isn't made for most people, the sides are way too high. If you don't get any then be it, but i'm not taking the risk again.

I've used Sema, Tirz and Reta. Not on any right now. The sides are real. They probably need to be used at far lower doses, in conjunction with a plan that can be kept consistent.

To be honest, I used GLP1s to motivate me to start exercising more, going gym more etc, because I knew I'd see the results. I lost a ton of weight, but felt sick and weak. They are a TOOL, not a CRUTCH. And most people have no business using them. I also believe they should be cycled off.

Pretend they're a drug that you use for a few weeks in the year, trying to get into peak condition.

You'll rebound and gain weight, but all that can be managed if you keep your activity high and calories under control, along with a healthy weight training routine.

Diet, exercise and sleep are 95%+, and GLPs help you achieve weight loss goals, but they are NOT WITHOUT side effects.

 

[SlayerJonas]

You'll rebound and gain weight, but all that can be managed if you keep your activity high and calories under control, along with a healthy weight training routine.

Diet, exercise and sleep are 95%+, and GLPs help you achieve weight loss goals, but they are NOT WITHOUT side effects.

Reta CAN be used long-term without any side effects. In fact, it is one of the best compounds for longevity.

It mogs all other GLP1/glucagon/GIP receptor agonists to death.

If someone is worried about any sides I would recommend just lowering the dosage.

The dose makes the poison (if it has any negative effects in the first place, I doubt that).

Most people will just regain everything after ceasing treatment. Reta is insanely attractive not only for weight control but also for lipids. Check LM section pinned thread if you haven't

ESC 2024: Retatrutide improves lipid and cardiovascular risk profile in Phase II trial

At ESC Congress 2024, Eli Lilly and Co announced the most recent trial results for retatrutide related to cardiovascular risk factors.

www.clinicaltrialsarena.com

 

[Deleted member 114837]

I've used Sema, Tirz and Reta. Not on any right now. The sides are real. They probably need to be used at far lower doses, in conjunction with a plan that can be kept consistent.

To be honest, I used GLP1s to motivate me to start exercising more, going gym more etc, because I knew I'd see the results. I lost a ton of weight, but felt sick and weak. They are a TOOL, not a CRUTCH. And most people have no business using them. I also believe they should be cycled off.

Pretend they're a drug that you use for a few weeks in the year, trying to get into peak condition.

You'll rebound and gain weight, but all that can be managed if you keep your activity high and calories under control, along with a healthy weight training routine.

Diet, exercise and sleep are 95%+, and GLPs help you achieve weight loss goals, but they are NOT WITHOUT side effects.

What else can i add? I would have replied the exact same way. I did use it the same way you did, but sadly i used it for a way longer term listening to dalits on org telling me it's safe.
It should be used if REALLY there is a need only temporarily to enhance your gym leanness.
Diet is extremely underated, i was a former fatcel, i consulted with a very smart nutritionnist, and doing basic stuffs like taking 6 pills of konjac before any meal, and drinking 3 full glasses of water and 3 big spoon of vegetable before any meal will kill all your hunger most of the time, and would be 100x healthier. Beside all the sides of sema, it also gives you inflammation, which is the worst thing to deal with and will put your body in a constant state of survival eventho you don't have to be. And to get over this it takes lots of time, and exercices.
Honestly you're the sole guy i know here that's always wholesome and knowlegeable, and we always think alike. It baffles me how much dalits with 0 understanding of looks, life, or knowledge are deceiving teens who join here. it's honestly horrible.
Just look at the reply of the autist above you @chadisbeingmade

Sucks for your genes then. Never began.

If you really don't lie, which i highly doubt, i'm 99% sure you're a larping dalit who plays a persona and don't even have the money to begin with to buy all those drugs. If you don't lie, let's say you don't for the sake of the argument, then just give it time my son. Give it time. In few months at worst you will start to have the body of a 90 yo male. And... once you get there, there will be no cure. All of this for what? You aren't and won't even ever become a HTN. I warned you, i did my duty, you make your own decisions and face the consequences.

 

[Deleted member 54208]

Screenshot this message in your tiny brain, forever. And never forget it. In few months, at worst few years when you will start to face all the side effects of your autism, you will forever regret it. And come back to me apologizing.
That's all i have to say.

what about you tie stones to your feet and jump into a lake mr discipline

 

[Deleted member 131140]

Screenshot this message in your tiny brain, forever. And never forget it. In few months, at worst few years when you will start to face all the side effects of your autism, you will forever regret it. And come back to me apologizing.
That's all i have to say.

Why will he come back to you though ? He'll go to his doctor, not to some guy on a forum. Dont inflate your importance

 

[SlayerJonas]

like taking 6 pills of konjac before any meal

 

[Deleted member 114837]

Why will he come back to you though ? He'll go to his doctor, not to some guy on a forum. Dont inflate your importance

It's a saying. A form of metaphore if you prefer. No doctor will understand the autistic amount of drugs he injected to himself and more importantly medecine isn't really any good at fixing functional issues. he will go from doctors to doctors, trying stuffs like nerve cryolyposis, or radiofrenquency, overdosing on ketamine to shut down his body hypertonia, with no avail. And it's when he will regret it. That's what my message means.

 

[Deleted member 131140]

It's a saying. A form of metaphore if you prefer. No doctor will understand the autistic amount of drugs he injected to himself and more importantly medecine isn't really any good at fixing functional issues. he will go from doctors to doctors, trying stuffs like nerve cryolyposis, or radiofrenquency, overdosing on ketamine to shut down his body hypertonia, with no avail. And it's when he will regret it. That's what my message means.

The saying is moreso about "I told you so" but oh well. I mean you intimately know about his body and the drugs he is taking so I think you can continue the convo with him

 

[Seth Walsh]

Something sad about this forum is that no one is even just trying to A/B test methods of making themselves as attractive and presentable as possible. There's just too much noise. Discipline and consistency trumps all when you're aiming to achieve a goal.

I've a bunch of pragmatic looksmaxxing guides/threads stashed, that I will never post, because I know that the replies will be disappointing. There's hardly ever anyone willing to use looksmaxxing information to actually looksmax.

I've focused on posting on non-looks related stuff like social class lately. There's nothing left to talk about.

 

[Deleted member 114837]

The saying is moreso about "I told you so" but oh well. I mean you intimately know about his body and the drugs he is taking so I think you can continue the convo with him

I know for a fact that he is a larping dalit who wants to put poor ignorant teens in a bad shape and health, because he is way too jealous that he can't ever become good looking nor has the willpower to ascend. That's why it's a big concern.

 

[SlayerJonas]

more importantly medecine isn't really any good at fixing functional issues.

What do you think medicine is there for? You can't generalize everything like this you utter subhuman.

"Medicine" just refers to the isolated active ingredient to modulate/modify pathways of the body.

If it makes you feel better, hop on the treadmill for 2 hours ed. Let's see if that is the better option to maintain low bf% long-term

 

[Deleted member 114837]

Something sad about this forum is that no one is even just trying to A/B test methods of making themselves as attractive and presentable as possible. There's just too much noise. Discipline and consistency trumps all when you're aiming to achieve a goal.

Very few do so. It's sad but also explains why nearly no one ascended.

Softmaxxing actually and being your own guinea pig is the best way to ascend. I know and tried so many things, which helped me going from below average to pretty much a chad with the harshest possible rating scale. And it also includes very SMART hardmaxxes tactics, that no one knows. Why would be bother giving advices or knowledge to people who insult us and act as if they knew?

I used to be nice and help people but they always tend to snake you and will never apply your advices and looksmaxx every single day.

I've focused on posting on non-looks related stuff like social class lately. There's nothing left to talk about.

And that's the other point : Looks past a certain point or even in general are far from being the most important thing in life when it comes to socialization or work or making friends or relationships. To me this place has became a cesspoll of dalits arguing with each others, and i say it with a sad tone, i regret it. I wish more people were willing to ascend in every aspect of life, and doing do with all their willpower everyday to fight against the odds they were dealt with at birth. But i guess only few are or can be like us.

 

[Deleted member 114837]

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What do you think medicine is there for? You can't generalize everything like this you utter subhuman.

"Medicine" just refers to the isolated active ingredient to modulate/modify pathways of the body.

If it makes you feel better, hop on the treadmill for 2 hours ed. Let's see if that is the better option to maintain low bf% long-term

Can you shut the fuck up you illiterate ignorant?
Go fix functional issues like
permanent hypertonia and myofacial syndrome in the pelvic area, which is one of the sides of sema. Go find a single doctor that can fix you.
Tired of talking with dalits.

 

[SlayerJonas]

permanent hypertonia

Semaglutide treatment even helps with that condition.

Semaglutide Ameliorates Diabetic Neuropathic Pain by Inhibiting Neuroinflammation in the Spinal Cord - PMC

Glucagon-like peptide 1 (GLP-1) receptor agonists are frequently used to treat type 2 diabetes and obesity. Despite the development of several drugs for neuropathic pain management, their poor efficacy, tolerance, addiction potential, and side ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

myofacial syndrome in the pelvic area

Out of all the variables, you think it is the Semaglutide?

Myofascial Pelvic Pain and Related Disorders - PubMed

Myofascial pelvic pain refers to pain in the pelvic floor muscles, the pelvic floor connective tissue, and the surrounding fascia. The cause is often multifactorial and requires treatment that encompasses multiple modalities. This type of pain is often associated with other abdominopelvic...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Seth Walsh]

I know for a fact that he is a larping dalit who wants to put poor ignorant teens in a bad shape and health, because he is way too jealous that he can't ever become good looking nor has the willpower to ascend. That's why it's a big concern.

There's no point fighting with eachother. None of it matters.

Consistency, discipline, effort and the ability to adapt matters with anything. Also ruthless tracking. If you are not ruthlessly tracking your looksmaxxing progress, like with Excel spreadsheets over time and literally A/B testing things over time, then you'll never know what works for you. I can only state what I believe are the highest ROI areas to focus on, and they are.

Leanmaxxing.
Maintaining 12-15% bodyfat year round. Measuring your waist. If over 33", CUT! Take pictures and see when your jaw and cheekbones pop.

Skinmaxxing:
SPF50+ every single day. 2x reapply if needed. Doesn't matter what the weather's like. Just do it.
Tretinoin. 0.025% - 0.1%. A few times a week, see how much your skin can tolerate.

Hairmaxxing:
Styling your hair for your face shape. Keeping length and density. Keep it well hydrated and maintained. Can take just as much effort as something like the gym.

Stylemaxxing:
Finding whatever clothes style works for you. Old money works for me. Ralph Lauren, Tommy Hilfiger, Savoy Taylors guild. Fluffy+Baggy can work if you like. Keeping your pants belted at your waist with your top cut off there. Shows long legs. Nice scent. People like Dior Sauvage. Personally I use Mancera Cedrat Boise for dates or Burberry Weekend when casual. I don't always use fragrances.

Attention to detail maxxing:
Deliberately looksmaxxing to have forearms and hand veins pop. Take care of fingernails, and toenail fungus (treat it), it'll be a subconscious insecurity. Gyno. Just get the surgery (plastic surgeon with a 2 decade + track record. Also get a histology test done).

Taylor your gym routine so you go for the tall slim athletic look and don't fall for the bodybuilder meme. You all know my stance on AAS. Read my 2019 posts, I was always against them. You need to take care of your hormones.

Diet, Sleep and Exercise/Activity. Stay consistent. Remember NEAT. 10k steps per day minimum, every day. Track it with the steps app. 2+ days of 10k steps missed = FAIL. Sit yourself down and find a better way to stay consistent.




There's a lot I am forgetting. I love using MT2 in the summer and getting a really nice tan right when I am looksmaxxed to the gills. Always make sure you're mentally doing okay, if not. Don't continue to torture yourself. The process should be rewarding and fulfilling.


I have been interested in physical self improvement and all types of cosmetic related stuff for years. I have personal stories I never told anyone about or bragged about on here. I definitely peaked at one stage. 100+ matches on Tinder, lots more attention from girls, definitely felt like a Chad/Chadlite.

The thing is, you need inner confidence anyway. If you try to just max out your looks, and think you're going to think, live and experience life like George Clooney or Channing Tatum. It's just delusion. Compare yourself to yourself. But TRACK it beyond excuse. Photos, metrics, everything. No one else has to know about it. But it's what keeps you on track to progress and evolve. That's the part everyone misses in my opinion.

@Alexanderr made a thread on consistency in BOTB and I thought it was very good. People should give it a read.


Also there's no point in getting bogged down and buying crap supplements that don't yield any meaningful ROI. Start at the "ROI" and work backwards. Find the tools that aid you in getting there. Consistency is the only tool you can make variable. I spent years trying different teeth whitening powders, strips, gels etc until I found the #1. Same for haircare. Spent thousands of euro going through different hair oils and conditioners until I found what works. Your hair shape is one of the biggest needle movers when it comes to being physically attractive. So work on that relentlessly, and try out different styles until you are happy with a cool one.

Most importantly. Be positive and friendly towards people in life. Negativity never opens doors.

If you were to play the game of life like a pro, you wouldn't be negative.

 

[Seth Walsh]

Very few do so. It's sad but also explains why nearly no one ascended.

I definitely completely changed my appearance through fatloss, skincare, hairstyle etc. The stuff that people joke about (just get a haircut bro, lol).

When I joined the forum, I hadn't a clue about how much looks influence life, interactions, leverage etc. I kind of feel it in my bones to reach my "peak" again. Not because of anything external, but because I feel I owe it to myself, and I've more knowledge on what works and what doesn't now, than ever.

I might make a thread on a teeth whitening gel that semi permanently whitens teeth, today. There's some looksmaxxing stuff that can be generalized for everyone, that I haven't yet posted about.

 

[Deleted member 114837]

I might make a thread on a teeth whitening gel that semi permanently whitens teeth, today

I use a DIY hydrogen peroxyde diluted with water as a mouthwash for 30 secondes every 2-3 days. And it's as good if not better than what you can get with your dentist.

 

[Seth Walsh]

I use a DIY hydrogen peroxyde diluted with water as a mouthwash for 30 secondes every 2-3 days. And it's as good if not better than what you can get with your dentist.

Nice, what % of hydrogen peroxide?

 

[Deleted member 114837]

hair shape

It's extremely underated. I must emphasis on hair "texture" it's the most important. Your hair needs to have texture, be "flowing", that's why finding the right way to have wavy hair is ideal, and it has to be cut in a way that it creates the illusion of you having a less big face/skull and enhance your neotony while hiding your flaws by putting emphasis on your good features.

 

[Deleted member 114837]

Nice, what % of hydrogen peroxide?

3%, i tried different % but this one is the safest with the best results.

 

[Deleted member 138051]

There's no point fighting with eachother. None of it matters.

Consistency, discipline, effort and the ability to adapt matters with anything. Also ruthless tracking. If you are not ruthlessly tracking your looksmaxxing progress, like with Excel spreadsheets over time and literally A/B testing things over time, then you'll never know what works for you. I can only state what I believe are the highest ROI areas to focus on, and they are.

Leanmaxxing.
Maintaining 12-15% bodyfat year round. Measuring your waist. If over 33", CUT! Take pictures and see when your jaw and cheekbones pop.

Skinmaxxing:
SPF50+ every single day. 2x reapply if needed. Doesn't matter what the weather's like. Just do it.
Tretinoin. 0.025% - 0.1%. A few times a week, see how much your skin can tolerate.

Hairmaxxing:
Styling your hair for your face shape. Keeping length and density. Keep it well hydrated and maintained. Can take just as much effort as something like the gym.

Stylemaxxing:
Finding whatever clothes style works for you. Old money works for me. Ralph Lauren, Tommy Hilfiger, Savoy Taylors guild. Fluffy+Baggy can work if you like. Keeping your pants belted at your waist with your top cut off there. Shows long legs. Nice scent. People like Dior Sauvage. Personally I use Mancera Cedrat Boise for dates or Burberry Weekend when casual. I don't always use fragrances.

Attention to detail maxxing:
Deliberately looksmaxxing to have forearms and hand veins pop. Take care of fingernails, and toenail fungus (treat it), it'll be a subconscious insecurity. Gyno. Just get the surgery (plastic surgeon with a 2 decade + track record. Also get a histology test done).

Taylor your gym routine so you go for the tall slim athletic look and don't fall for the bodybuilder meme. You all know my stance on AAS. Read my 2019 posts, I was always against them. You need to take care of your hormones.

Diet, Sleep and Exercise/Activity. Stay consistent. Remember NEAT. 10k steps per day minimum, every day. Track it with the steps app. 2+ days of 10k steps missed = FAIL. Sit yourself down and find a better way to stay consistent.




There's a lot I am forgetting. I love using MT2 in the summer and getting a really nice tan right when I am looksmaxxed to the gills. Always make sure you're mentally doing okay, if not. Don't continue to torture yourself. The process should be rewarding and fulfilling.


I have been interested in physical self improvement and all types of cosmetic related stuff for years. I have personal stories I never told anyone about or bragged about on here. I definitely peaked at one stage. 100+ matches on Tinder, lots more attention from girls, definitely felt like a Chad/Chadlite.

The thing is, you need inner confidence anyway. If you try to just max out your looks, and think you're going to think, live and experience life like George Clooney or Channing Tatum. It's just delusion. Compare yourself to yourself. But TRACK it beyond excuse. Photos, metrics, everything. No one else has to know about it. But it's what keeps you on track to progress and evolve. That's the part everyone misses in my opinion.

@Alexanderr made a thread on consistency in BOTB and I thought it was very good. People should give it a read.


Also there's no point in getting bogged down and buying crap supplements that don't yield any meaningful ROI. Start at the "ROI" and work backwards. Find the tools that aid you in getting there. Consistency is the only tool you can make variable. I spent years trying different teeth whitening powders, strips, gels etc until I found the #1. Same for haircare. Spent thousands of euro going through different hair oils and conditioners until I found what works. Your hair shape is one of the biggest needle movers when it comes to being physically attractive. So work on that relentlessly, and try out different styles until you are happy with a cool one.

Most importantly. Be positive and friendly towards people in life. Negativity never opens doors.

If you were to play the game of life like a pro, you wouldn't be negative.

agree with you 100%, on most of the things you wrote here.


not trying to be a dickhead but i dont get why people like @chadisbeingmade and @Jonasㅤㅤ⠀ act so negatively (at least from what i saw in my 3 months of being here). @chadisbeingmade do help and suggest people like me who are looking for the right answer. but i see that they act very toxic-like to other people on this forum, and why? i mean we need to help each other. disrepecting, humillating etc each other isnt gonna help neither of the sides.

sorry if you didnt understand anything, english is my second language.

 

[Seth Walsh]

It's extremely underated. I must emphasis on hair "texture" it's the most important. Your hair needs to have texture, be "flowing", that's why finding the right way to have wavy hair is ideal, and it has to be cut in a way that it creates the illusion of you having a less big face/skull and enhance your neotony while hiding your flaws by putting emphasis on your good features.

I agree. Hair shape and texture. Basically your hair style. I think hair itself is a feature.

One of the things that fuck people the hardest is having bad harmony in my opinion. Bad harmony is worse than being under 5'10 or being overweight.

 

[Seth Walsh]

agree with you 100%, on most of the things you wrote here.


not trying to be a dickhead but i dont get why people like @chadisbeingmade and @Jonasㅤㅤ⠀ act so negatively (at least from what i saw in my 3 months of being here). @chadisbeingmade do help and suggest people like me who are looking for the right answer. but i see that they act very toxic-like to other people on this forum, and why? i mean we need to help each other. disrepecting, humillating etc each other isnt gonna help neither of the sides.

sorry if you didnt understand anything, english is my second language.

I understand you. People are always gonna say what they wanna say and do what they wanna do. If I find someone toxic or grating, I just treat it as noise. Basically, not important

 

[Chad]

agree with you 100%, on most of the things you wrote here.


not trying to be a dickhead but i dont get why people like @chadisbeingmade and @Jonasㅤㅤ⠀ act so negatively (at least from what i saw in my 3 months of being here). @chadisbeingmade do help and suggest people like me who are looking for the right answer. but i see that they act very toxic-like to other people on this forum, and why? i mean we need to help each other. disrepecting, humillating etc each other isnt gonna help neither of the sides.

sorry if you didnt understand anything, english is my second language.

Users here are retarded. They make claims, like that retard in this thread, and do not provide a shred of proof at all. In fact the evidence points to the opposite of what he said. These people are all larp as being high IQ. Best believe if you make a claim and don't back it up, or just spread missinformation, I will call you an utter moron. I don't call people morons for asking questions, only giving retarded advice.

 

[Deleted member 114837]

I think hair itself is a feature

It absolutely is.
And it's not just have hair lol and take fin. It is to be considered deeply and make the best of it. even with sideburn implants if needed or hairline lowering, every MM matters, and it's even more true for hair.

Users here are retarded. They make claims, like that retard in this thread, and do not provide a shred of proof at all. In fact the evidence points to the opposite of what he said. These people are all larp as being high IQ. Best believe if you make a claim and don't back it up, or just spread missinformation, I will call you an utter moron. I don't call people morons for asking questions, only giving retarded advice.

Listen. My argument was simple : Sema has horrendous sides for some people. There are other ways to lose weight. If you don't have the willpower to lose weight, you don't have the willpower to ascend either and won't. What are the proofs you showed that what i said is wrong? And on top you do roids, which is the single most idiotic thing to do in life.

. Bad harmony

Unironically there are lots of ways to fix it, but you need to think of it deeply as perspectives, shapes, and illusions. Many of which nobody know of. And yes, harmony is the single most important feature. It is impossible to be good looking without a decent harmony. Impossible. You can be good looking with bad eyes, bad jaw, bad whatever, but not bad harmony.

 

[Seth Walsh]

It absolutely is.
And it's not just have hair lol and take fin. It is to be considered deeply and make the best of it. even with sideburn implants if needed or hairline lowering, every MM matters, and it's even more true for hair.

Listen. My argument was simple : Sema has horrendous sides for some people. There are other ways to lose weight. If you don't have the willpower to lose weight, you don't have the willpower to ascend either and won't. What are the proofs you showed that what i said is wrong? And on top you do roids, which is the single most idiotic thing to do in life.

Unironically there are lots of ways to fix it, but you need to think of it deeply as perspectives, shapes, and illusions. Many of which nobody know of. And yes, harmony is the single most important feature. It is impossible to be good looking without a decent harmony. Impossible. You can be good with bad eyes, bad jaw, bad whatever, but not bad harmony.

Yep - for sure.

Hair loss is like a negative. Having hair but not doing anything is neutral. The real benefits come when you style and nourish your hair, then maintain the style.

I wish more people talked about coloring (eg; using MT2 and staying in the sun for a while). Not too many MT2 reviews with actual before/after pictures on here. That'd be cool.

 

[Chad]

There are other ways to lose weight.

Find me where I said otherwise.

What are the proofs you showed that what i said is wrong?

Like @Jonasㅤㅤ⠀ said

Myofascial Pelvic Pain and Related Disorders - PubMed

Myofascial pelvic pain refers to pain in the pelvic floor muscles, the pelvic floor connective tissue, and the surrounding fascia. The cause is often multifactorial and requires treatment that encompasses multiple modalities. This type of pain is often associated with other abdominopelvic...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Semaglutide Ameliorates Diabetic Neuropathic Pain by Inhibiting Neuroinflammation in the Spinal Cord - PMC

Glucagon-like peptide 1 (GLP-1) receptor agonists are frequently used to treat type 2 diabetes and obesity. Despite the development of several drugs for neuropathic pain management, their poor efficacy, tolerance, addiction potential, and side ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

How about you give proof for your claims instead of spreading missinformation?

And on top you do roids, which is the single most idiotic thing to do in life.

Then you are clearly miss-informed about that also, which I'm not surprised. There is no aging, no hair loss, no fertility issues, no BP issues, no lipid issues when you know what you are doing. Tell me a single downside.

Mirin gatekeeping tho. It is a legit thing to do.

 

[Deleted member 114837]

Yep - for sure.

Hair loss is like a negative. Having hair but not doing anything is neutral. The real benefits come when you style and nourish your hair, then maintain the style.

I wish more people talked about coloring (eg; using MT2 and staying in the sun for a while). Not too many MT2 reviews with actual before/after pictures on here. That'd be cool.

I feel like talking to my best friend who's the sole with me that i know irl who understand what is appealing.
Hair texture is life. Coloring is life and extremely important - i know of the best way to get red undertones temporarily even for indian skin tones -, and so are lips, eyes and face shape.

Harmony>hair/coloring/eyes/lips/face shape>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Go fix functional issues like
permanent hypertonia and myofacial syndrome in the pelvic area, which is one of the sides of sema

Genuinely kill yourself you fucking idiot

 

[Deleted member 114837]

Find me where I said otherwise.

You telling other to rope because they tell you there is no need to use sema to lose weight is in an hollow argument way to say it.

First link just talk about myofascial issue. Nothing else. What am i supposed to reply to this in regard to semaglutide? All i'm saying is there is no cure for myofascial issues. There are tools to reduce sort of the pain but no cure at all. And sema can create such an issue, there are enough anecdotical evidences for that.

And the second link concerns diabetic people. Which is the first purpose of sema. It's good for people who have diabete, who said otherwise? But we are talking about using it for normal healthy people who want to lose weight, this doesn't concern us.

And for the actual side effects of ozempic a quick research is enough to tell you, more and more proofs are coming by the day.

Then you are clearly missinformed about that also, which I'm not surprised. There are aging, no hair loss, no fertility issues, no BP issues, no lipid issues when you know what you are doing. Tell me a single downside.

Tell me one good thing about roiding to begin with.

 

[Deleted member 114837]

Genuinely kill yourself you fucking idiot

lovely.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Tell me one good thing about roiding to begin with.

Builds muscle fast and allows you to stay single digits year around without running in to hormonal issues + high energy