Discussion Old peoples. Muh current old age stack, fighting aging. Anti aging stack discussions

[eduardkoopman]

This is muh current stash, that = age related. Open for inputs, opinions, etc

Skin collagen and discolorations
* tretinoin (collagen, skin thinning, discolortaion)
* Nicotinamide serum (skin discoloration)
* will be added soon: GHK-cu
* essential oils/amino acids. (loss of fatcells volume)
* sunblock
* red light therapy (collagen)
* dermastamp (collagen)

Health
* Hit training mainly only and 10.000 steps per day.
* Zinc
* K2 + D3 (for keeping good bones, and less bone loss)
* reversatrol (immune system, and aging)
* glycerine 5 gram daily
* want to add: NMN to stash

Hair
* fina 0.2 gr (for keeping hair)
* minox (for keeping thickness hair)
* diluted peppermint oil on eyerbows (fighting hair loss/thinning eye brows)
* dermaroller on scalp (for keeping hair)

 

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[Autismmaxxed]

Do GHK-cu and red light work?

 

[Deusmaximus]

You are not anti age maxxing if you dont add botox to the stack. I get it every 4 months, and i would never live without it anymore.

 

[Deleted member 9699]

simple and straight to the point without 40000 supplements and a mess

thanks op

 

[eduardkoopman]

Do GHK-cu and red light work?

both proven. I recall reading. Proven by research. I bet on the forum search, one can find the studies.

 

[MewingJBP]

most of these are crap except for retin a sunscreen and fin

never tried derma stap is it better than derma roller?

 

[eduardkoopman]

You are not anti age maxxing if you dont add botox to the stack. I get it every 4 months, and i would never live without it anymore.

I never considered that one.
It's for when have wrinkles, right? Luckily I have limited or no wrinkles, still. So I can postpone this one maybe? What you think?
Does it still cause, having an face without expression skills?

 

[eduardkoopman]

most of these are crap

based on what?

never tried derma stap is it better than derma roller?

kinda similar. But stamp is a little bit better.

 

[eduardkoopman]

 

[Autismmaxxed]

Brutal agepill

 

[MewingJBP]

where do you get tretinoin?

 

[Deleted member 6128]

Just have melanin theory + Hyperpigmentation Removal products

 

[TheChosenChad]

You are not anti age maxxing if you dont add botox to the stack. I get it every 4 months, and i would never live without it anymore.

How old are you?

 

[Pumanator]

No NAD boosters? Those seem to be good. Google david Sinclair. He is the most famous anti aging DNA researcher. Also fasting is good for a anti aging. You are doing a lot of afford and looking at your photos you sended earlier you look good for your age.

 

[gymislife]

isn't Matrixyl better than GHK-cu? many people on here used GHKcu and saw that it's benefits were overexaggerated, it will still help with collagen but iirc in cope's thread, he proved matrixyl is better

 

[eduardkoopman]

where do you get tretinoin?

last time from united pharmacies

 

[eduardkoopman]

isn't Matrixyl better than GHK-cu? many people on here used GHKcu and saw that it's benefits were overexaggerated, it will still help with collagen but iirc in cope's thread, he proved matrixyl is better

I just bought and want to start Matrixyl 3000. I don't use GHK-cu than. but Matrixyl 3000. Which is still ghk - but then without cu.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Just have melanin theory

???

 

[Deleted member 10551]

How old are you? Gonna start this now at 23.

 

[eduardkoopman]

No NAD boosters? Those seem to be good. Google david Sinclair. He is the most famous anti aging DNA researcher. Also fasting is good for a anti aging. You are doing a lot of afford and looking at your photos you sended earlier you look good for your age.

I want to add NMN. Is that not a NAD booster?

I had Niacin before. But the red flushes were for me extremely brutal; and lasted very very long. And it kept me awake, so bad the red flushes was. I took it at like 21 o'lcock. And than from 22 oçlock to like past 24:00 oclick I was flushing hard and awake because of it. Intervered with my sleept; and felt bad/not good. So I stoped the Niacin. brutals.
I dnno, for sure. But was/is Niacin not a NAD booster also?

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Holy crap. Is the drop in collagen levels really that bad from 20 - 25?

 

[eduardkoopman]

How old are you? Gonna start this now at 23.

I'm really old. 37. not 23. I never did anything against aging untill 35-36

 

[Pumanator]

I want to add NMN. Is that not a NAD booster?

I had Niacin before. But the red flushes were for me extremely brutal; and lasted very very long. And it kept me awake, so bad the red flushes was. I took it at like 21 o'lcock. And than from 22 oçlock to like past 24:00 oclick I was flushing hard and awake because of it. Intervered with my sleept; and felt bad/not good. So I stoped the Niacin. brutals.
I dnno, for sure. But was/is Niacin not a NAD booster also?

Never heard of NMN, but googling it found out it's a NAD booster. I googled also about niacin. That's also a NAD booster. In that case your stack is perfect for anti aging.

 

[Deusmaximus]

I'm really old. 37. not 23. I never did anything against aging untill 35-36

You need invasive treatments then. Laser treats, botox, collagen fillers and face lift.
Btw do you have any results with girs??

 

[eduardkoopman]

You need invasive treatments then. Laser treats, botox, collagen fillers and face lift.

That should imo, be based on having had a look at the person. Not just a general statement based on a person age. People age, at different speeds it looks like.

 

[Deusmaximus]

That should imo, be based on having had a look at the person. Not just a general statement based on a person age. People age, at different speeds it looks like.

At 37 its impossible that you could not profit from these treatments.

 

[lasthope]

At 37 its impossible that you could not profit from these treatments.

Do you use Botox for anti aging?

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

I put my mom on NMN, she likes it would be nice to get something that prevents aging rather than fixes age related deficiencies though. so that I can take it too. no point taking NMN as 20scel

 

[eduardkoopman]

I put my mom on NMN, she likes it would be nice to get something that prevents aging rather than fixes age related deficiencies though. so that I can take it too. no point taking NMN as 20scel

how does she take it?

 

[poloralf]

good shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiet baldy

 

[Soalian]

how does she take it?

Well you should ask me.

 

[Loud_Jock]

This is muh current stash, that = age related. Open for inputs, opinions, etc

Skin collagen and discolorations
* tretinoin (collagen, skin thinning, discolortaion)
* Nicotinamide serum (skin discoloration)
* will be added soon: GHK-cu
* essential oils/amino acids. (loss of fatcells volume)
* sunblock
* red light therapy (collagen)
* dermastamp (collagen)

Health
* Hit training mainly only and 10.000 steps per day.
* Zinc
* K2 + D3 (for keeping good bones, and less bone loss)
* reversatrol (immune system, and aging)
* glycerine 5 gram daily
* want to add: NMN to stash

Hair
* fina 0.2 gr (for keeping hair)
* minox (for keeping thickness hair)
* diluted peppermint oil on eyerbows (fighting hair loss/thinning eye brows)
* dermaroller on scalp (for keeping hair)

My stack:
Roids, Tats, Tan, Tret, Fin, HGH. (RTTTFH)

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

how does she take it?

sublingual. afaik that's the best way

 

[Deleted member 643]

Current stack:
- Sunscreen every day
- Astaxanthin and multivitamin

I also injected epitalon 3 months ago. In another few months, I'll get a telomere length test and see if there are any improvements.

Will add:
- Red Light Therapy
- Dermaroller
- Botox
- Retin A

 

[eduardkoopman]

sublingual. afaik that's the best way

thanks. i keep in mind. i need to buy that stuff also.
do you have a good source to recomend?

 

[eduardkoopman]

I also injected epitalon 3 months ago. In another few months, I'll get a telomere length test and see if there are any improvements.

never heard of that one before.

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

thanks. i keep in mind. i need to buy that stuff also.
do you have a good source to recomend?

alive by science is legit and not too expensive. but you may want to find an eu source instead so you don't get fucked by taxes too hard

here's a spreadsheet

 

[TITUS]

Just wanted to remind you that old age starts at 25 and that i see people at my gym who cannot be more than 23 and already almost completely bald.

 

[l0st@sea]

Epitalon and TA-65 on my list of things to try atm. I can't afford them rn but i'm looking into it.

Epitalon - Science - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

Things I also do:
* Cold showers
* Vitamin C suspension (i buy from The Ordinary)
* Astaxanthin
* Glutathione
* Coq10(Ubiquionol)
* irregular 2-day fasts
* Deprenyl
* Natural multi-vits ofc
* Affirmations
* Massages (scalp, neck, lymph)

 

[l0st@sea]

Just wanted to remind you that old age starts at 25 and that i see people at my gym who cannot be more than 23 and already almost completely bald.

lol no, 15-25 = adolesence, 25-45 = middle age, 45+ old age

but balding does not mean you're "old". Some people go bald at 16 so is 16 the beginning of old age? dumpster IQ.

worse still is that your chronological age is just an arbitrary number. you don't age at a rate of 1 and you don;'t age at a continous rate throughout your life.

for example when ur a kid, you age quite fast and when you're between 20 and 40, you age slowly (by comparison) and then the process speeds up rapidly again later.

your biological age determines how old you really are, that's why you get those freak examples of people who still look really young at 40/50+ or people who look really old at 25

 

[Soalian]

lol no, 15-25 = adolesence, 25-45 = middle age, 45+ old age

but balding does not mean you're "old". Some people go bald at 16 so is 16 the beginning of old age? dumpster IQ.

worse still is that your chronological age is just an arbitrary number. you don't age at a rate of 1 and you don;'t age at a continous rate throughout your life.

for example when ur a kid, you age quite fast and when you're between 20 and 40, you age slowly (by comparison) and then the process speeds up rapidly again later.

your biological age determines how old you really are, that's why you get those freak examples of people who still look really young at 40/50+ or people who look really old at 25

Biological age is not how young or old you look though.

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

No NAD boosters? Those seem to be good. Google david Sinclair. He is the most famous anti aging DNA researcher. Also fasting is good for a anti aging. You are doing a lot of afford and looking at your photos you sended earlier you look good for your age.

metformin and nad+ precursers are you best bet for 'really' fighting the aging process and not just its signs
supplement-wise of course though, lifestyle will be more important in this regard
@eduardkoopman maybe a missing part of your routine

 

[Soalian]

Drinking a dozen Virgins' pussy juice every night at Midnight, on full moons.

Works for me.

 

[eduardkoopman]

metformin and nad+ precursers are you best bet for 'really' fighting the aging process and not just its signs
supplement-wise of course though, lifestyle will be more important in this regard
@eduardkoopman maybe a missing part of your routine

I never managed to understand the whole NAD thing.
maybe you can tell?

I used Niacin. That is NAD???
I could not handle Niacin, the red flushes that was. I took it at 21 oclick. And started flushing uncomfortably so bad and awake untill like 1:00 o'clock. I keptgoing howping to adapts. and did like 5-10 times. And gave up, because it kept being horrible bad.

NMN. is that also NAD??


Metformim I will look in to. thanks.

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

I never managed to understand the whole NAD thing.
maybe you can tell?

I used Niacin. That is NAD???
I could not handle Niacin, the red flushes that was. I took it at 21 oclick. And started flushing uncomfortably so bad and awake untill like 1:00 o'clock. I keptgoing howping to adapts. and did like 5-10 times. And gave up, because it kept being horrible bad.

NMN. is that also NAD??


Metformim I will look in to. thanks.

pretty much NAD+ or NAD = Nicotinamide Adenine Dinucleotide,
nad+ is needed for many cellular processes and lessening levels of it are associated with aging; elevation of nad+ levels shows promise in slowing the aging process and hallmarks.

This is where nad+ precursors come in as a way to boost nad+ levels as a means of slowing the aging process.
Both niacin and nmn are nad+ precursors, but nmn and nicotinamide lack the red flush thing right?
anyways hopefully that explains it, also afaik NMN has only been explored as a way to boost nad levels in a preclinical setting, but it definitely has promise to fight the agepill.

 

[l0st@sea]

Biological age is not how young or old you look though.

that is a good point, some people can just look old irrelevant of age

 

[eduardkoopman]

Biological age is not how young or old you look though.

aka.
Chronological age vs. biological age.

Chronological vs. Biological Aging: Differences & More

Chronological age is what most people think of when asked, “How old are you?” This differs from biological age, which accounts for other environmental factors.

www.healthline.com

 

[gymislife]

isn't Matrixyl better than GHK-cu? many people on here used GHKcu and saw that it's benefits were overexaggerated, it will still help with collagen but iirc in cope's thread, he proved matrixyl is better

I just bought and want to start Matrixyl 3000. I don't use GHK-cu than. but Matrixyl 3000. Which is still ghk - but then without cu.

I think I was wrong:

Regenerative and Protective Actions of the GHK-Cu Peptide in the Light of the New Gene Data - PMC

The human peptide GHK (glycyl-l-histidyl-l-lysine) has multiple biological actions, all of which, according to our current knowledge, appear to be health positive. It stimulates blood vessel and nerve outgrowth, increases collagen, elastin, and ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.longdom.org/open-access/effects-of-ghkcu-on-mmp-and-timp-expression-collagen-and-elastin-production-and-facial-wrinkle-parameters-2329-8847-1000166.pdf

Results: GHK-Cu significantly increased gene expression of MMP1 and MMP2 at the lowest concentration whilst simultaneously increasing the expression of TIMP1 at all the tested concentrations. All examined concentrations of GHK-Cu increased both collagen and elastin production. An increase of the mRNA expression ratio of TIMPs to MMPs was associated with an increase in collagen/elastin production. Application of GHK-Cu in nano-carriers to facial skin of volunteers significantly reduced wrinkle volume (31.6%; p=0.004) compared to Matrixyl® 3000, and significantly reduced wrinkle volume (55.8%; p<0.001) and wrinkle depth (32.8%; p=0.012) compared to control serum.

Conclusions: GHK-Cu significantly increased collagen and elastin production by HDFa cells depending on the relative mRNA expression of their TIMP(s) over MMP. Topical application of GHK-Cu with the aid of nano-carriers reduced wrinkle volume to a significantly greater extent than the vehicle alone or a commercial product containing Matrixyl 3000®, a GHK lipophilic derivative.

 

[TITUS]

My stack:
Roids, Tats, Tan, Tret, Fin, HGH. (RTTTFH)

Sounds similar to mine but i dont tan and tat, i want to make plain pale skin fashionable next season.

Current stack:
- Sunscreen every day
- Astaxanthin and multivitamin

I also injected epitalon 3 months ago. In another few months, I'll get a telomere length test and see if there are any improvements.

Will add:
- Red Light Therapy
- Dermaroller
- Botox
- Retin A

PM me with that test results, im doing epi and TB-500 soon.

alive by science is legit and not too expensive. but you may want to find an eu source instead so you don't get fucked by taxes too hard

here's a spreadsheet

Upload that sheet somewhere.