C
coxel
Iron
- Joined
- Jan 2, 2024
- Posts
- 82
- Reputation
- 130
title. seriously, I'm yet to see a single face.
@RealSurgerymax
@RealSurgerymax
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: this_feature_currently_requires_accessing_site_using_safari
title. seriously, I'm yet to see a single face.
@RealSurgerymax
where?Ive seen a bunch on discord
Can we see to broIve seen a bunch on discord
dmIve seen a bunch on discord
honestly I've only ever seen one result, you make a very valid pointtitle. seriously, I'm yet to see a single face.
@RealSurgerymax
Here's one. There a bits and pieces elsewhere, but here's at least 1 comprehensive one.
I'd say it's complicated, and not the panacea some tout it to be. But, for structural deficiencies, it and osteonomies are the best corrections we currently have. Regardless, proper design is everything.This is unbelievable. I made a post saying plastic surgery is a scam but this makes me rethink it. It’s just most people don’t know what implants to get
Went digging through my phone and found this as well. Low-res but Giant posted it somewhere at some point. The client frauds a little by doing some slight squinting but the improvement is obvious.
View attachment 3041277
Comically frauded, both in the before(purposely made look worse) and after(purposely made look better)Went digging through my phone and found this as well. Low-res but Giant posted it somewhere at some point. The client frauds a little by doing some slight squinting but the improvement is obvious.
View attachment 3041277
Would love to hear more about this - please elaborateComically frauded, both in the before(purposely made look worse) and after(purposely made look better)
Ive talked with this guy extensively
He never looked as bad as the before, like thats close to a sub 5 eye area and he was not even close to that in the multiple pics i have seen of him unedited pre surgery. It’s the equivalent of doing cross eyes in a before and then not doing it in the after. The lighting is also on only one side of his face.Would love to hear more about this - please elaborate
Does he regret getting surgery then?He never looked as bad as the before, like thats close to a sub 5 eye area and he was not even close to that in the multiple pics i have seen of him unedited pre surgery. It’s the equivalent of doing cross eyes in a before and then not doing it in the after. The lighting is also on only one side of his face.
He is also squinting in the after. I have an unfrauded recent pic of him in an after.
He was a decent looking guy before and its the same after
No, but representing that before after as a result of 1 implant is misleading at bestDoes he regret getting surgery then?
Still looks incredible to be honest as it looks like its without drop down- UEE got completely fixed.Went digging through my phone and found this as well. Low-res but Giant posted it somewhere at some point. The client frauds a little by doing some slight squinting but the improvement is obvious.
View attachment 3041277
It does not look good.Still looks incredible to be honest as it looks like its without drop down- UEE got completely fixed.
Here's one. There a bits and pieces elsewhere, but here's at least 1 comprehensive one.
Bad bimax plan imo ; he had quite long face yet instead of doing anyerior impaction and reverse most of the height they went for posterior downgraft so his face stayed long.Ok now lets see before after on an average giant implants case instead of a cherry picked over 5 years down to the botb that he could pull yet still frauded before after or giga recessed person
Either way, full facial implants should have improved him a lot, instead he looks super uncanny now. This was the best pic he took and im wondering if its edited because he looked 10x more uncanny in every day pics. His dad literally told him he couldn’t look at himBad bimax plan imo ; he had quite long face yet instead of doing anyerior impaction and reverse most of the height they went for posterior downgraft so his face stayed long.
Now he looks like stereotypical high school jock.
The issue is an actual successful transformation requires remodeling of the bone. Not just adding mass. If you use AI filters (like in face app) you’ll see that they just do minor shifts of your face to make you good looking. It might make your jaw a little slimmer, your eye area a different shape. It might make your chin a mm longer. All these different changes (not just bone too) combine to get your face to the median attractive face.Either way, full facial implants should have improved him a lot, instead he looks super uncanny now. This was the best pic he took and im wondering if its edited because he looked 10x more uncanny in every day pics. His dad literally told him he couldn’t look at him
Does Giant have any actually mindblowing before/after?Either way, full facial implants should have improved him a lot, instead he looks super uncanny now. This was the best pic he took and im wondering if its edited because he looked 10x more uncanny in every day pics. His dad literally told him he couldn’t look at him
looks obviously better imo + shit lightingOk now lets see before after on an average giant implants case instead of a cherry picked over 5 years down to the botb that he could pull yet still frauded before after or giga recessed person
lefort 1 destroyed his philtrum convexity, brutalI found this on reddit
View attachment 3048917View attachment 3048918
On the right there is still a lot of swelling according to OP, and supposedly his chin got advanced 15.5mm.
He also is in contact with many Giant patients and went to Safi but from insider info he said its a bad choice and he dodged the bullet.
Zero ascensions, multiple revisions and some on their 4th revision.Does Giant have any actually mindblowing before/after?
He always compare his design to other companies shitty designs so if his turns out to be this uncanny I am afraid how Eppley or other patients looks like.
Still I hope he will improve tho.
Lol imagine changing implants for 4th time- their muscles and skin must look more stretched than belly of ex-600ibs.Zero ascensions, multiple revisions and some on their 4th revision.
My running theory is most of these are far too imprecise to achieve aesthetic ideals.Lol imagine changing implants for 4th time- their muscles and skin must look more stretched than belly of ex-600ibs.
How about osteotomies? He had already several cases of osteotomies- few bimaxes, tripod, lefort 2 ,lefort 3, paranasal osteotomies etc. I guess those also weren't ascensions.
It’s weird how none of those guys talk about it loudly.
They don't talk about it cause it's about a 1/3 botch rate and a high percentage also didn't ascend even 1 tier from like normie to htn for example. I don't know about other osteotomies but we have 1 obo that looks uncanny, another that ghosted soon after but still views forum regularly so probably botched and a giant genio which was the 2nd biggest botch of any surgery I have ever seen, the first being a giant infra of which he needed to get 3rd revision with different surgeon for a non giant implantLol imagine changing implants for 4th time- their muscles and skin must look more stretched than belly of ex-600ibs.
How about osteotomies? He had already several cases of osteotomies- few bimaxes, tripod, lefort 2 ,lefort 3, paranasal osteotomies etc. I guess those also weren't ascensions.
Its weird how none of those guys talk about it loudly.
4th revision? How do you know this shit.Zero ascensions, multiple revisions and some on their 4th revision.
I thought that the guy who ghosted and still lurks (Ape101) was the first one who got OBO? There is another before?They don't talk about it cause it's about a 1/3 botch rate and a high percentage also didn't ascend even 1 tier from like normie to htn for example. I don't know about other osteotomies but we have 1 obo that looks uncanny, another that ghosted soon after but still views forum regularly so probably botched and a giant genio which was the 2nd biggest botch of any surgery I have ever seen, the first being a giant infra of which he needed to get 3rd revision with different surgeon for a non giant implant
I was in surgery groups with most of them from 1-3 years ago, some are my friends. Most have moved on from this now and just accepted/fixed the botch as best as they can. Others like I said are going for 4th revision-over 100k spent, close to 150k4th revision? How do you know this shit.
This shit is absolutely brutal ngl
150kI was in surgery groups with most of them from 1-3 years ago, some are my friends. Most have moved on from this now and just accepted/fixed the botch as best as they can. Others like I said are going for 4th revision-over 100k spent, close to 150k
Best case so far, and its not even that great, i mean, the first one barely had any improvement other than some autisitic details noone except blackpill looksmaxxers even care about.Ok now lets see before after on an average giant implants case instead of a cherry picked over 5 years down to the botb that he could pull yet still frauded before after or giga recessed person
Caging at the extensive implants around the eyes just for 0 benefitOk now lets see before after on an average giant implants case instead of a cherry picked over 5 years down to the botb that he could pull yet still frauded before after or giga recessed person
More like he's bullshitting and exaggerating to try and sell his serviceHe always compare his design to other companies shitty designs so if his turns out to be this uncanny I am afraid how Eppley or other patients looks like.
Here's one. There a bits and pieces elsewhere, but here's at least 1 comprehensive one.
Its not weird. Its just that the results are simply not thereLol imagine changing implants for 4th time- their muscles and skin must look more stretched than belly of ex-600ibs.
How about osteotomies? He had already several cases of osteotomies- few bimaxes, tripod, lefort 2 ,lefort 3, paranasal osteotomies etc. I guess those also weren't ascensions.
Its weird how none of those guys talk about it loudly.
They don't talk about it cause it's about a 1/3 botch rate and a high percentage also didn't ascend even 1 tier from like normie to htn for example. I don't know about other osteotomies but we have 1 obo that looks uncanny, another that ghosted soon after but still views forum regularly so probably botched and a giant genio which was the 2nd biggest botch of any surgery I have ever seen, the first being a giant infra of which he needed to get 3rd revision with different surgeon for a non giant implant
Was just about to ask this - also curious.has anyone in your network gotten work done by pagnoni? what’s your opinion of his designs? i’ve been eyeing him for a while for infra/supra implants
Plenty. Hit and miss but mostly miss. No botches i know of that are done by his designer except implant show unless you count that as a botch. The designs are similar to giant afaik but I haven't looked in depth at them as haven't been blown away by any results but did see 1 decent infra however this was after seeing many. Have heard things he has said second hand through patients that really put me off. The fact is is that you really need to do deep research on implants, not cheap out and see consistently good results to make the process really worth it at all. You also actually have to need them. This whole process of putting full facial implants on everyone even when not deficient drastically increases the chance of botching. This isn't changing clothes or something and any surgeon that acts that way should be a huge red flag in itself.has anyone in your network gotten work done by pagnoni? what’s your opinion of his designs? i’ve been eyeing him for a while for infra/supra implants