This is a very poor argument, because God specifically allowed him to complete his message, said he was pleased with him, established the faith over the entire Arabian peninsula. Only after all that, did he pass away.
Ezra Miller? explain in PSL terms
In 1543, Nicolaus Copernicus detailed his radical theory of the Universe in which the Earth, along with the other planets, rotated around the Sun.
basic history btw
Nigga when did I say Islam is false or all that you just putting words in my mouth. I just made a thread talking about a contradiction and you are just repeating what I already said in OP and the comment. Give me a single proof of this happening outside of Islamic text.im so educated myself about this stuff but as a counter i could easily say that the bibleisnt real because its been changed many many times and it has many yes many contradictions its honestly crazy how one contradiction you find is enough to say islam isnt real and honestly im sure its not even a contradiction where is it proven or written that there wasnt a group of jews worshiping ezra?
(Quran 9:31). In other words, Jews venerated Ezra so much that it was as if he were a god to them.4]
An explanation given by Muslim scholars from the time of al-Jāḥiẓ and al-Ṭabarī (d. 923) was that this belief had, in fact, been held by a group of Jews in Arabia, but that this sect had died out.
The Qur’an, the Jews and Ezra as the Son of God
by Jonathan Brown on 27 July 2016 Jonathan Brown is the Alwaleed bin Talal Chair of Islamic Civilization in the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University, and he is the Associate Director …bloggingtheology.net
Here we go “thou holier than u” all religions are man made mush imo, ur jsut worried about losing out on ur community and family and even death if you decide to not believe it
Ancient Egyptians and Greeks knew about this shit way before Adam and even touched down on earthIn 1543, Nicolaus Copernicus detailed his radical theory of the Universe in which the Earth, along with the other planets, rotated around the Sun.
low iq fuck dumbass im putting your as son ignore how dumb ass you fucking retard
It’s not about being holier than thou. It’s just that these sorts of arguments don’t help your case.
my text supports my argument and is against jasonsnon islamic text
doesnt mean its fake? theres no record of the earth revolving around the sun is there in any of your books does it mean the earth isnt revolving around the sun?
dumbass nigger stfu no one asked you for your bitchass opinion fucking useless zygote your daddy shoudvle nutted in a dead monkey ass instead of making you fucking useless pice of oxygen waste the onl thing going on in your body it turning oxygen into cO2 thats it nigger faggot ass niggah stfu now also get iq moggged by me 138iq im am superior you must be a fucking room temperature iq snail
I’m not the only one who believes in these sentiments but again people can believe what they want, but shouldn’t be forced to, as the some places will literally kill u if u convert, its a shame in Muslims ruled countries how people who convert to Christianity or even Judaism and try to practice it in silence are still persecuted, even in Libya they own slaves to this day, Mohammed referred to black people as “rasin heads” but ofc ofc too far ik, I might burn in hell for insulting a man who was literally illiterate, thought satan himself was attacking him, literally have verses in the Quran which are controversial called the “satanic verses” and married a literal child, so sorry
Soo much estrogen, and for what?
You do realise that the Middle East was majority Christian until around 1200 or so? It became mostly Muslim after 600 years of Islamic Rule, lol. You can fact check this right now. Hard to reconcile that with your claim of Muslims forcefully converting everyone and being violent barbarians.
You are talking past me here shoe horning science into theology and historical facts.
They literally taxed non Muslims who wouldn’t convert like what? Jizzyah tax, ofc how about the Ottoman Empire who killed over 5 million Christians? I’m sure Turkey was founded on “such peace and love”
Yeah, and? Everyone taxes everyone lol.
so if i say that i gave you an apple yesterday and only you and me know it does it mean that in the future that i didnt give the apple to you just because i have no proof of giving you the apple?
What about present day persecution like in Nigeria, India, Iraq? Lemme guess “the Jews” are somehow behind this and truu Islam isn’t that, what about Mormonism? Why would Joseph smith say “mohammed was such An inspiration” to him? If people know Mormonism is horse crap, and that many people and scholars connect Mohammed and Joseph smith as well as Islam and Mormonism as very similar, then in the end, Mohammed was a good for nothing promiscuous schizophrenic warlord, but hey again I can’t rly say much, u can find fault in all religions tbh
not a contradiction aslong as there issnt any proof to show there wasnt any jewish people who worshipped ezra idk what your on about having lack of proof of something does not mean its necessarily wrong if i get raped and i only have myself to testify and no other proof it doesnt really mean i never got rapped its just that i dont have any proof foor it but if you have proof of me not getting raped then that means im lying
none of the countries you mentioned are Islamically ruled, they’re all secular
The difference is you’re not forced to convert to another religion, see in the US and other western nations, most Muslim kids start researching and breaking away, as you do so freely here ofc most Muslims will be like “muhhh the corrupt west
” in reality people are just freeing their minds, u should see Iran and their women before the Islam revolution seemed like a good and nice place Fr, not that it still isn’t, but u literally had Iranians celebrating when Israel attacked Iran a couple months ago it should tell u something.
jizya was exempt on women and elderly but also non muslim males who fought to defend the land ( as the whole premise of the jizya was that the muslim men had to fight for the nation and protect its citizens but the rest didn't)
every muslim who actually is a muslim condemn the easter massacre in sri lankaMuslims when 250 Sri Lankans were massacred on 2019 Easter Day:
Muslims when u make one question of their beliefs and their prophet:
But u still had to serve right? So in all just seems like of political and power gain book then some higher way of thinking
there was no forced conversion and also the jizya tax was historically set lower than the zakat which muslims had to pay to the government (which then distributed it amoungst the poor)The difference is you’re not forced to convert to another religion, see in the US and other western nations, most Muslim kids start researching and breaking away, as you do so freely here ofc most Muslims will be like “muhhh the corrupt west
Over Catholicism and orthodoxy? Why?
Why does a religion need to impose taxes and “taking over Territory” couldn’t they just try to peacefully go about it? No because people at first knew Islam made no sense and it didn’t have a large following till after lands were being conquested, same for Christianity post reconquista I’m not letting one off the hook
Islam did not need conquests or taxes to survive or grow. For 13 years in Makkah, the Prophet spread the message purely through peaceful invitation and moral example despite severe persecution. Hundrds converted voluntarily before any state or military power existed. By the time of the Hijrah and the conquest of Makkah, Islam had already unified much of Arabia through conviction, not force.Territorial expansion and jizyah came after the faith was established. jizyah was a protection tax paid by non-Muslim men (in place of military service) in exchange for full state protection of life, property, and worship — often lighter than taxes under previous Byzantine or Persian rule. The Qur’an explicitly forbids forced conversion (2:256). Wars were mainly defensive or to remove oppression and allow free da’wah, not to compel belief. Also major Muslim populations today (e.g., Indonesia) became Muslim centuries later through trade and peaceful preaching, without armies and many Christians and Jews lived peacefully as dhimmis for generations and converted voluntarily over time.
Yep they copied Jesus’a word. Also this is in their Quran sura 9:30 says the Jews took Ezra as a son of Allah
I pity the Mohammedens. Oh well it’s their life lol
It has changed… your book is the 1924 Cairo edition before then each college has their own qurans (quirats) which had different verses that’s why it took you 1924 to
They do not say this. Infact we say the opposite. Liberal WHITES who want liberal brownie points may but they aren’t to be discussed
ahruf and qiraat are a feature, not a bug.It has changed… your book is the 1924 Cairo edition before then each college has their own qurans (quirats) which had different verses that’s why it took you 1924 to
Standardise it because colleges would fight over it in the streets
And now today even verses in the Haffs Warsh Doori all have DIFFERNCES and this is even after Caliph Uthman destroyed and burnt all the other Qurans that didn’t appeal to him. So your Quran has undergone multiple changes even Ibn MASU’D said that the Quran Ibn Thabic chose (which 3rd caliph Uthman chose) is false due to adding extra chapters. Yes theirs beef over is the Qurans is 112 chapters or 116 lol
It’s a bug when they say different things entirely where the context is soemthing different. (If you want an exmaple I can shape you many, becuase it’s not even scribal errors or DIFFERNCES in the word being used but the context remaining the same it’s completely a diff context it is what it is)
showing your people Would alter their own manuscripts
Different words being used is also a feature. In fact, if anything it makes the case for Islam stronger for an oral recitations variants to all align in meaning and deepen it. You’re free to show me one where one version says something that opposes another.It’s a bug when they say different things entirely where the context is soemthing different. (If you want an exmaple I can shape you many, becuase it’s not even scribal errors or DIFFERNCES in the word being used but the context remaining the same it’s completely a diff context it is what it is)
There’s also manuscripts like the Birmingham one if I’m remembering correctly that have entire things scribbled out
Tbh I no longer debate religion too much as most people are naturally hard hearted and doomed to go hell, I have helped many to Christ and I feel ive done my part and so im
Content. As for Mohammedens well its over for yall niggas
HOLY DODGEIt’s a bug when they say different things entirely where the context is soemthing different. (If you want an exmaple I can shape you many, becuase it’s not even scribal errors or DIFFERNCES in the word being used but the context remaining the same it’s completely a diff context it is what it is)
There’s also manuscripts like the Birmingham one if I’m remembering correctly that have entire things scribbled out
Tbh I no longer debate religion too much as most people are naturally hard hearted and doomed to go hell, I have helped many to Christ and I feel ive done my part and so im
Content. As for Mohammedens well its over for yall niggas
dumbass niggah its over for you and your book is filled bye filled i mean filled with clear contradictions and there are so many
No no contradictions only translation errors because duh Bible isn’t written in English doofus. Scribal copyist errors manly only in the Masoretic (translation) which is what Protestants in English speaking countries read. I read the Septuigant so it’s not in mine anywaysHOLY DODGE
. And idiots who don’t understand the Bible and historical relationally to specific verses leading to idiots claiming a contradiction where there is none
This guy pretty much said Quran wasn’t preserved till the Cairo meeting jfl he thinks Quran is only written not orally memorized thus gathered everyone and the best hafizezHOLY DODGE
No it’s not different “words” you fucking moron even the Bible has that
translation issues? more like contradictions niggah where in one bible theres something completely differ to tanother fucking useless zygoteNo no contradictions only translation errors because duh Bible isn’t written in English doofus. Scribal copyist errors manly only in the Masoretic (translation) which is what Protestants in English speaking countries read. I read the Septuigant so it’s not in mine anyways
God bless InspiringPhilosphy for debunking all this spunk pushed esp by GAYtheists and Mohammeden pedophile followers like you
You proved my point, the meanings reinforce and add on to one another lolNo it’s not different “words” you fucking moron even the Bible has that
It’s DIFFERENT CONTEXTS that is the issue. Different words can convey the same meaning that’s fine and good my own Bible has this. What I’m talking about is YOU GAYRAN HAS DIFFERERENT CONTEXTS for example
From Surah al-Baqarah (2:184):
In one reading (e.g. Ḥafṣ):
“…a ransom [as substitute] of feeding a poor person (مِسْكِينٍ).”
“…a ransom of feeding poor people (مَسَاكِين).”
- In another reading (e.g. Warsh):
Difference: singular vs plural.
Impact: One suggests feeding one person per missed fast; the other suggests multiple—this has been discussed in Islamic legal interpretation.
another one
From Surah al-Baqarah (2:191) variations across readings and interpretive traditions
“And kill them wherever you overtake them…”
- A common reading:
“And fight them wherever you encounter them…”
- Other transmitted readings/interpretive variants emphasise:
Difference: “kill” (اقتلوهم) vs “fight” (قاتلوهم).
Impact: “Fight” can imply engagement in battle, whereas “kill” is more direct—though many scholars argue the broader context (warfare) governs the meaning.
Your dumb asf. I’m aware it was memorised but the reality is each Qirat is diff with diff recitations ahrufs you should know this you dumb Mohammeden.
and that many Mohammedens died in Jihad and the verses are lost with them 
