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who do y'all think is better
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are u black irl? pagnoni is king of implants here and raffaini can ascend women hard and his rhinos look fire but yeahRaffaini is better but discriminates against non Italians
i should just pretend to be part italian. i'm white latino so maybe i could pass. but honestly i haven't seen any really good cases like mine from him (with long face and retruded mandible on a male)Raffaini is better but discriminates against non Italians
yeah i want the infras and supras. could you message me your friend's result if you don't mind? it would be helpfulA friend even did the mythical Browridge implant under Pagnoni, turned out amazing. That's all I know about Pagnoni, I don't know the other dude so I couldn't say.
so is raffaini better for just bimax and rhino? and then i could go to pagnoni for implantsare u black irl? pagnoni is king of implants here and raffaini can ascend women hard and his rhinos look fire but yeah
Check pmsi should just pretend to be part italian. i'm white latino so maybe i could pass. but honestly i haven't seen any really good cases like mine from him (with long face and retruded mandible on a male)
yeah i want the infras and supras. could you message me your friend's result if you don't mind? it would be helpful
so is raffaini better for just bimax and rhino? and then i could go to pagnoni for implants
depends on your case we need to see your face to assess the situation but I would say for rhino raffaini wins he has crazy results on women i guess he could also get crazy results on men pagnoni has a proven trackrecord here that he does good implantsi should just pretend to be part italian. i'm white latino so maybe i could pass. but honestly i haven't seen any really good cases like mine from him (with long face and retruded mandible on a male)
yeah i want the infras and supras. could you message me your friend's result if you don't mind? it would be helpful
so is raffaini better for just bimax and rhino? and then i could go to pagnoni for implants
i didn't get your messageCheck pms
Pagnoni mogs unless you need a rhino. His wedge cut genio and jaw widening are more in line with what you want out of surgery.i didn't get your message
i also want chico tier eyes and he does good orbital implants right. i was thinking of rhino too but that could be an afterthoughtPagnoni mogs unless you need a rhino. His wedge cut genio and jaw widening are more in line with what you want out of surgery.
Yeah his supra and infra implants are godlikei also want chico tier eyes and he does good orbital implants right. i was thinking of rhino too but that could be an afterthought
how much is each implant combined with his bimax? i want to make sure what he told me is correct, i may have misunderstood bc he was lagging a lot in our zoom callYeah his supra and infra implants are godlike
24k for bimax + genio and 4K for each implant after. So it would be 32k for bimax + genio + supra and infrahow much is each implant combined with his bimax? i want to make sure what he told me is correct, i may have misunderstood bc he was lagging a lot in our zoom call
infra and zygos can be a combined one right? that's a good deal i could ascend hard after24k for bimax + genio and 4K for each implant after. So it would be 32k for bimax + genio + supra and infra
do you mind pming your result i would really love to see itMy bimax with Pagnoni was excellent result, so I recommend him
Raffaini I dont know so much, just that he has a lot of great cases with italian women
32k in total for infra and supra + bimax and genio. It’s expensive but given how much you’re getting out of one surgery it’s an extremely good investment looksmaxxing wise.infra and zygos can be a combined one right? that's a good deal i could ascend hard after
what i meant in my comment was that zygos and infraorbitals are often done together as a single implant right?32k in total for infra and supra + bimax and genio. It’s expensive but given how much you’re getting out of one surgery it’s an extremely good investment looksmaxxing wise.
Can Pagnoni also do lower eyelid retraction + Blepharo. Does he do good oculoplastic work?32k in total for infra and supra + bimax and genio. It’s expensive but given how much you’re getting out of one surgery it’s an extremely good investment looksmaxxing wise.
he showed me a patient he did canthoplasty on so i assume he knows how to do other eye procedures as wellCan Pagnoni also do lower eyelid retraction + Blepharo. Does he do good oculoplastic work?
Infraorbital?pagnoni is king of implants
4K for infraorbitals??4K for each implant after
Jaw widening makes no sense. Usually narrow jaw cels lack gonion flaring, osteotomies don’t fix thatPagnoni mogs unless you need a rhino. His wedge cut genio and jaw widening are more in line with what you want out of surgery.
It’s a discounted price since you’d be getting it with a bimax. I don’t know how much he charges for implants alone4K for infraorbitals??
Could you show some results? I need infra implants.It’s a discounted price since you’d be getting it with a bimax. I don’t know how much he charges for implants alone
Consults with Pagnoni are free and he usually gets back to you in less then a week. He doesn’t post his results but he will show you them during the consult.Could you show some results? I need infra implants.
Online consult or in person?Consults with Pagnoni are free and he usually gets back to you in less then a week. He doesn’t post his results but he will show you them during the consult.
onlineOnline consult or in person?
based on what?Raffaini is better
@feelgood enlighten me on this useless surgeryJaw widening makes no sense. Usually narrow jaw cels lack gonion flaring, osteotomies don’t fix that
If there’s no issue with jaw shape it achieves the same result an implant would. But if your ramus is too short and you have inward gonions then you’d still need jaw angle implants to achieve ideal shape.@feelgood enlighten me on this useless surgery
doubt someone has outward gonions with narrow jawIf there’s no issue with jaw shape it achieves the same result an implant would. But if your ramus is too short and you have inward gonions then you’d still need jaw angle implants to achieve ideal shape.
what kind of irl friends you have jflA friend even did the mythical Browridge implant under Pagnoni, turned out amazing. That's all I know about Pagnoni, I don't know the other dude so I couldn't say.
Can you please DM me your result?My bimax with Pagnoni was excellent result, so I recommend him
Raffaini I dont know so much, just that he has a lot of great cases with italian women