Personal Effective Guide,

[Two_Tone_Toney]

None of this is gospel. It’s just what actually worked for me,

Discuss respectfully

These forums are full of retarded overcomplication. You don’t need to bonesmash or run some 15 compound protocol Most of you just need the simple shit done consistently.


If you’re a guy who wants something that works without overthinking it, this is what I’d tell a friend:

Diet- hit your protein, fill the rest with carbs( don’t worry about timing it’s largely overrated I beileve) whatever fat you get is fine I keep mine low.


Lift. I do upper Monday, lower Wednesday, upper Friday. Off days I either train martial arts or just do cardio and abs. Is it optimal? No but it’s fun and I do it consistently, Hit your muscles 2x a week , don’t turn training into a science project, progressive overload ( the basics get you 90% the way)


If you’re gonna run gear, 200–250 test is a solid floor. Not required, but it makes everything easier with little risk, Still get bloods. Even natty.


Get lean. Actually lean 8–12%. Reta, Cardarine, whatever tool gets the job done. This single change will do more for your face than 90% of the other nonsense people obsess over.


Dutasteride 10MG(atleast 2.5MG). I’m a Dut enjoyer. Skin, hair, and even libido got better for me. I think most guys should be on it.



Cialis 5mg daily. Better erections increased vascularity, and it reduces your chance of dying. Why the fuck wouldn’t you

Accutane long-term. Run whatever dose you can handle without crazy sides, 30mg daily has been solid for me.

There is SO MUCH shit you can take and I would love to hear about what everyone takes.


And for the love of god, go outside and talk to people. Half the advice on here comes from guys who haven’t had a real conversation in fucking forever . If you need alcohol, pregab, or weed to make socializing less shit TAKE IT, I just came off a bender I couldn’t tell you how much Molly,weed,and alch I consumed, it works guys just don’t fuck your life up.


this is not the only way but it’s guarantee to improve your quality of life.

 

[LETMETHEFUCKIN]

should be water, good read bhai.

 

[norwyx]

Did you blast test? If so, how did you go about it? Looking to run my first cycle.

 

[Ant!]

Is it optimal? No but it’s fun and I do it consistently, Hit your muscles 2x a week , don’t turn training into a science project, progressive overload ( the basics get you 90% the way)

And for the love of god, go outside and talk to people. Half the advice on here comes from guys who haven’t had a real conversation in fucking forever . If you need alcohol, pregab, or weed to make socializing less shit TAKE IT, I just came off a bender I couldn’t tell you how much Molly,weed,and alch I consumed, it works guys just don’t fuck your life up.

This is great advice W post

 

[Qeiea]

Thank you for telling me the same everyone else says I luv change

 

[Two_Tone_Toney]

should be water, good read bhai.

Thank you

Did you blast test? If so, how did you go about it? Looking to run my first cycle.

haha I have a good story, I have a terrible reaction to grapeseed oil so running test is off the table for now until I source in a diff carrier. ( not 2 pressed on it tbh)
Start low 200MG have ANCs on hand and just take it slow there’s no rush do your bloods all that kinda stuff.

 

[Two_Tone_Toney]

This is great advice W post

Thank you brother

 

[Two_Tone_Toney]

Thank you for telling me the same everyone else says I luv change

It’s my pleasure

 

[norwyx]

Thank you

haha I have a good story, I have a terrible reaction to grapeseed oil so running test is off the table for now until I source in a diff carrier. ( not 2 pressed on it tbh)
Start low 200MG have ANCs on hand and just take it slow there’s no rush do your bloods all that kinda stuff.

Fuck, I gotta make more money for it. To run the ANCs, the PCT, and run Reta at the same time. Thanks bro, good thread.

 

[Two_Tone_Toney]

Fuck, I gotta make more money for it. To run the ANCs, the PCT, and run Reta at the same time. Thanks bro, good thread.

PCT? Once you get on brother, you’re not gonna come off lmao

 

[norwyx]

PCT? Once you get on brother, you’re not gonna come off lmao

Tf, so you expect me to cruise test for the rest of my life? I'm 20yo tho

 

[Two_Tone_Toney]

Tf, so you expect me to cruise test for the rest of my life? I'm 20yo tho

Well if you’re cruising at 20 you will certainly be at 30 right? The world is so un-natural bro why ever resort to a worse version of yourself, atleast that’s how I view it.

 

[presible]

None of this is gospel. It’s just what actually worked for me,

Discuss respectfully

These forums are full of retarded overcomplication. You don’t need to bonesmash or run some 15 compound protocol Most of you just need the simple shit done consistently.


If you’re a guy who wants something that works without overthinking it, this is what I’d tell a friend:

Diet- hit your protein, fill the rest with carbs( don’t worry about timing it’s largely overrated I beileve) whatever fat you get is fine I keep mine low.


Lift. I do upper Monday, lower Wednesday, upper Friday. Off days I either train martial arts or just do cardio and abs. Is it optimal? No but it’s fun and I do it consistently, Hit your muscles 2x a week , don’t turn training into a science project, progressive overload ( the basics get you 90% the way)


If you’re gonna run gear, 200–250 test is a solid floor. Not required, but it makes everything easier with little risk, Still get bloods. Even natty.


Get lean. Actually lean 8–12%. Reta, Cardarine, whatever tool gets the job done. This single change will do more for your face than 90% of the other nonsense people obsess over.


Dutasteride 10MG(atleast 2.5MG). I’m a Dut enjoyer. Skin, hair, and even libido got better for me. I think most guys should be on it.



Cialis 5mg daily. Better erections increased vascularity, and it reduces your chance of dying. Why the fuck wouldn’t you

Accutane long-term. Run whatever dose you can handle without crazy sides, 30mg daily has been solid for me.

There is SO MUCH shit you can take and I would love to hear about what everyone takes.


And for the love of god, go outside and talk to people. Half the advice on here comes from guys who haven’t had a real conversation in fucking forever . If you need alcohol, pregab, or weed to make socializing less shit TAKE IT, I just came off a bender I couldn’t tell you how much Molly,weed,and alch I consumed, it works guys just don’t fuck your life up.


this is not the only way but it’s guarantee to improve your quality of life.

W list bro

 

[norwyx]

Well if you’re cruising at 20 you will certainly be at 30 right? The world is so un-natural bro why ever resort to a worse version of yourself, atleast that’s how I view it.

I agree, however: money. I'm a brokie bro, maybe if I were moneymaxxing I'd cruise that shit.

Rep back nigga

 

[Two_Tone_Toney]

I agree, however: money. I'm a brokie bro, maybe if I were moneymaxxing I'd cruise that shit.

Rep back nigga

I see, it should only be like 100$ a month on the high end tho. How i rep someone?

 

[Two_Tone_Toney]

W list bro

Thank you

 

[iblamejordan1]

None of this is gospel. It’s just what actually worked for me,

Discuss respectfully

These forums are full of retarded overcomplication. You don’t need to bonesmash or run some 15 compound protocol Most of you just need the simple shit done consistently.


If you’re a guy who wants something that works without overthinking it, this is what I’d tell a friend:

Diet- hit your protein, fill the rest with carbs( don’t worry about timing it’s largely overrated I beileve) whatever fat you get is fine I keep mine low.


Lift. I do upper Monday, lower Wednesday, upper Friday. Off days I either train martial arts or just do cardio and abs. Is it optimal? No but it’s fun and I do it consistently, Hit your muscles 2x a week , don’t turn training into a science project, progressive overload ( the basics get you 90% the way)


If you’re gonna run gear, 200–250 test is a solid floor. Not required, but it makes everything easier with little risk, Still get bloods. Even natty.


Get lean. Actually lean 8–12%. Reta, Cardarine, whatever tool gets the job done. This single change will do more for your face than 90% of the other nonsense people obsess over.


Dutasteride 10MG(atleast 2.5MG). I’m a Dut enjoyer. Skin, hair, and even libido got better for me. I think most guys should be on it.



Cialis 5mg daily. Better erections increased vascularity, and it reduces your chance of dying. Why the fuck wouldn’t you

Accutane long-term. Run whatever dose you can handle without crazy sides, 30mg daily has been solid for me.

There is SO MUCH shit you can take and I would love to hear about what everyone takes.


And for the love of god, go outside and talk to people. Half the advice on here comes from guys who haven’t had a real conversation in fucking forever . If you need alcohol, pregab, or weed to make socializing less shit TAKE IT, I just came off a bender I couldn’t tell you how much Molly,weed,and alch I consumed, it works guys just don’t fuck your life up.


this is not the only way but it’s guarantee to improve your quality of life.

Cute dnr

 

[norwyx]

I see, it should only be like 100$ a month on the high end tho. How i rep someone?

Hit the like button. Yeah, 100 bucks is not too much for Americans; however, I'm a third-world brokie. I only use Reta bc my mom brings it from the US to Colombia. Otherwise, I'd be cooked.

 

[Two_Tone_Toney]

Cute dnr

 

[iblamejordan1]

Chill guy as well

 

[Two_Tone_Toney]

Chill guy as well

Thx babe

 

[iblamejordan1]

Thx babe

No problem buddy boyo

 

[Two_Tone_Toney]

Hit the like button. Yeah, 100 bucks is not too much for Americans; however, I'm a third-world brokie. I only use Reta bc my mom brings it from the US to Colombia. Otherwise, I'd be cooked.

Ah i see, yea idk man that’s unfortunate you moving to US?

 

[elxbp]

Good thread, but cardarine is so cheeks. Yea I was incredibly lean and ran the fastest 5ks of my life, I was borderline narcoleptic sometimes and I’d be super lethargic.

Maybe I had an adverse reaction to it after taking it for like 3 months, but idk.

 

[Two_Tone_Toney]

Good thread, but cardarine is so cheeks. Yea I was incredibly lean and ran the fastest 5ks of my life, I was borderline narcoleptic sometimes and I’d be super lethargic.

Maybe I had an adverse reaction to it after taking it for like 3 months, but idk.

Your pfp is my work background pic lmao,
It’s def personal opinion, but proper dosing I think it has more upside than downside.

 

[norwyx]

Ah i see, yea idk man that’s unfortunate you moving to US?

Hopefully in the future when I finish college here

 

[Two_Tone_Toney]

Hopefully in the future when I finish college here

gotcha, my buddy is from mexico he came here after he finished highschool and did nursing and hes doing really well. nursing is like a cheatcode for life bro. work 3 days 12 hours shifts and make 6 figures.
If its a interest peep it, school is cheap also.

 

[Trenscension]

None of this is gospel. It’s just what actually worked for me,

Discuss respectfully

These forums are full of retarded overcomplication. You don’t need to bonesmash or run some 15 compound protocol Most of you just need the simple shit done consistently.


If you’re a guy who wants something that works without overthinking it, this is what I’d tell a friend:

Diet- hit your protein, fill the rest with carbs( don’t worry about timing it’s largely overrated I beileve) whatever fat you get is fine I keep mine low.


Lift. I do upper Monday, lower Wednesday, upper Friday. Off days I either train martial arts or just do cardio and abs. Is it optimal? No but it’s fun and I do it consistently, Hit your muscles 2x a week , don’t turn training into a science project, progressive overload ( the basics get you 90% the way)


If you’re gonna run gear, 200–250 test is a solid floor. Not required, but it makes everything easier with little risk, Still get bloods. Even natty.


Get lean. Actually lean 8–12%. Reta, Cardarine, whatever tool gets the job done. This single change will do more for your face than 90% of the other nonsense people obsess over.


Dutasteride 10MG(atleast 2.5MG). I’m a Dut enjoyer. Skin, hair, and even libido got better for me. I think most guys should be on it.



Cialis 5mg daily. Better erections increased vascularity, and it reduces your chance of dying. Why the fuck wouldn’t you

Accutane long-term. Run whatever dose you can handle without crazy sides, 30mg daily has been solid for me.

There is SO MUCH shit you can take and I would love to hear about what everyone takes.


And for the love of god, go outside and talk to people. Half the advice on here comes from guys who haven’t had a real conversation in fucking forever . If you need alcohol, pregab, or weed to make socializing less shit TAKE IT, I just came off a bender I couldn’t tell you how much Molly,weed,and alch I consumed, it works guys just don’t fuck your life up.


this is not the only way but it’s guarantee to improve your quality of life.

very good thread as always brother, only thing id disagree with is the testosterone dosing. anything under 500mg is trt, a cruise, or natty plus at best. with testosterone, you can run over a gram and still probably be fine health wise

 

[Trenscension]

Good thread, but cardarine is so cheeks. Yea I was incredibly lean and ran the fastest 5ks of my life, I was borderline narcoleptic sometimes and I’d be super lethargic.

Maybe I had an adverse reaction to it after taking it for like 3 months, but idk.

also potentially carcinogenic, id avoid that shit like the plague