Physique help needed (GYMCELS GTFIH)

[FiendFiend]

im buying reta so i can lean bulk im like twink 128lbs 5'9 176cm and like 16% bf.

Im very bad at sticking to a meal plan cuz i been fed sugar and carbs so much and if i go keto or do some shit it ends up super bad. I plan to eat hella protein, something like 190g of protein daily with 100-300 calorie surplus daily , and take reta as i do it to stop the carb and sugar urges.

I'll also be blasting mt2 since soon sun is going away here in UK.

my physique is basically identical to this

and i want something like this, how much kg do i have to gain of muscle to get this. thanks also what should i focus on training and what exercises should i do

what should the weight goal be ideally. I will be lean bulking with reta so will make sure any weight i put on is pure muscle, if its not i cut instantly.

 

[FiendFiend]

@Debetro rent free nigga

 

[Sapphiremaxxing]

Not eating carbs is gonna rape your brain but also the unequally over-satiating effects of eating protein coupled with reta will leave you eating 1000cals at most unless you stuff some carbs down your face.

 

[FiendFiend]

Not eating carbs is gonna rape your brain but also the unequally over-satiating effects of eating protein coupled with reta will leave you eating 1000cals at most unless you stuff some carbs down your face.

thats why reta is for. Lol. "rape my brain" yeah thats what the reta is for. I'll still incoroperate carbs for energy ofc but i'll lower it significantly as well as fat

 

[FiendFiend]

Not eating carbs is gonna rape your brain but also the unequally over-satiating effects of eating protein coupled with reta will leave you eating 1000cals at most unless you stuff some carbs down your face.

the protein over satiating thing isnt true my body can see past the fact im not eating enuf calories and is reliant on carbs and sugars, its more the little voice in my head thats the issue. I dont want food to be enjoyable i wanna stuff myself to gain protein

 

[FiendFiend]

Accept some fat mf

fat is not good for physique. it is good for musclebuilding long term however im gonna be getting igf-1 spikes from spamming protein which should build up my physique.

 

[Debetro]

@Debetro rent free nigga

I think it's the other way around.

 

[FiendFiend]

I think it's the other way around.

no lol ur on dick 24/7 theres not even anything funny abt this post what is there to laugh bout. ur on a forum called looksmax dot org nigga

 

[Debetro]

no lol ur on dick 24/7 theres not even anything funny abt this post what is there to laugh bout. ur on a forum called looksmax dot org nigga

Literally applies to you, which is why you made sure to tag me at first.

I don't know who you even are, I interacted a couple times with you at most, I don't know why you act so edgy.

 

[Sadist]

im buying reta so i can lean bulk

stopped reading here

 

[FiendFiend]

Literally applies to you, which is why you made sure to tag me at first.

I don't know who you even are, I interacted a couple times with you at most, I don't know why you act so edgy.

i tagged u after u reacted to it.

 

[FiendFiend]

stopped reading here

i got carb and sugar cravings i legit eat no protein, if eating becomes a chore it will be better. Im twink but i enjoy food a lot.

 

[Debetro]

i tagged u after u reacted to it.

I reacted because the questions are funny.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Not eating carbs is retarded.
Bulking at 16% bodyfat is retarded.

I will be lean bulking with reta so will make sure any weight i put on is pure muscle

That's the point of Test + hGH. Not muh Reta.

 

[FiendFiend]

I reacted because the questions are funny.

questions arent funny they r good reasonable questions, mb though ur 6'2 jacked chad but rotting on here

 

[tyym1111]

like 5 kg max

 

[FiendFiend]

Not eating carbs is retarded.
Bulking at 16% bodyfat is retarded.


That's the point of Test = hGH. Not muh Reta.

ok so what should i do? cut first on reta? But bulk from that point onwards?

 

[FiendFiend]

like 5 kg max

thanks bhai

 

[chadisbeingmade]

ok so what should i do? cut first on reta? But bulk from that point onwards?

Cut all the way down to 10%, then do your 300 calorie surplus.

 

[FiendFiend]

Not eating carbs is retarded.
Bulking at 16% bodyfat is retarded.


That's the point of Test + hGH. Not muh Reta.

the bulk is gonna be super lean, i will eat carbs but limit it a lot.

Low fat too. Insane amount of proteins and 100-200 calorie surplus. My issue isnt tracking its sticking to meal plans

 

[FiendFiend]

Cut all the way down to 10%, then do your 300 calorie surplus.

ok valid. I''ll do that. Should i just spam eat protein as i cut? literally should i just make my whole meal like lean asf protein yogurt , lean meat like 150g protein and make it like 1.1k calories?

 

[harmonytingfam]

im buying reta so i can lean bulk im like twink 128lbs 5'9 176cm and like 16% bf.

what should the weight goal be ideally. I will be lean bulking with reta so will make sure any weight i put on is pure muscle, if its not i cut instantly.

telling you from my experience on reta- the hunger suppression is real and even trying to eat at maintenance calories was very hard.

maybe if your taking 0.5mg or under weekly you could just hit your goals but i wouldn't bother using reta until after the bulk

 

[FiendFiend]

telling you from my experience on reta- the hunger suppression is real and even trying to eat at maintenance calories was very hard.

maybe if your taking 0.5mg or under weekly you could just hit your goals but i wouldn't bother using reta until after the bulk

yeah i plan to microdose it. 0.5mg sounds like a good starting point.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

the bulk is gonna be super lean, i will eat carbs but limit it a lot.

Low fat too. Insane amount of proteins and 100-200 calorie surplus. My issue isnt tracking its sticking to meal plans

Limiting carbs on a bulk makes 0 sense and is counter productive. Insane amount of protein makes no difference, just a waste of calories that could be allocated to carbs. If you are natty 1g per lbs bodyweight protein, so 130g for you, fats at 50-60g and the rest all carbs. Reta will fix your sticking to meal plans issue.

ok valid. I''ll do that. Should i just spam eat protein as i cut? literally should i just make my whole meal like lean asf protein yogurt , lean meat like 150g protein and make it like 1.1k calories?

Fastest way is PSMF. It's basically the only way I cut now, with weekend refeeds (I'm enhanced, but works natty also). 0 strength loss after I recarb up, no muscle loss etc. Follow that and make sure you try lose no strength in the gym.

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Shouldn't take too long at all to drop multiple % considering your starting bodyweight. Once you are lean enough and bulk properly, any fat gain you get from that bulk you should be able to rid of extremely quickly.

 

[Debetro]

questions arent funny they r good reasonable questions, mb though ur 6'2 jacked chad but rotting on here

I will ignore you until further notice just so you know I don't really care about you and I'm not spreading hate on you on purpose.

 

[FiendFiend]

I will ignore you until further notice just so you know I don't really care about you and I'm not spreading hate on you on purpose.

 

[FiendFiend]

Limiting carbs on a bulk makes 0 sense. Insane amount of protein makes no difference, just a waste of calories that could be allocated to carbs. If you are natty 1g per lbs bodyweight protein, so 130g for you, fats at 50-60g and the rest all carbs. Reta will fix your sticking to meal plans issue.


Fastest way is PSMF. It's basically the only way I cut now, with weekend refeeds (I'm enhanced, but works natty also). 0 strength and loss after I recarb up, no muscle loss etc. Follow that and make sure you try lose no strength in the gym.

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Shouldn't take too long at all to drop multiple % considering your starting bodyweight. Once you are lean enough and bulk properly, any fat gain you get from that bulk you should be able to rid of extremely quickly.

ok what should i train. Is pullups and bodyweight shit cope for the physiques i want or do i have to do actual weights and shit

 

[chadisbeingmade]

ok what should i train. Is pullups and bodyweight shit cope for the physiques i want or do i have to do actual weights and shit

Go to the gym and train with weights like a bodybuilder. The people in those pics you showed did not train in any specific way to achieve a certain physique, they all trained like a regular bodybuilder.

 

[Copercel]

with 100-300 calorie surplus daily , and take reta

 

[FiendFiend]

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jfl look at ur sig ur the weird one. Even chadisbeingmade acknowledges im right for taking reta for the leanbulk if i have struggles sticking to a meal plan and the contents of the food, cuz i love foods taste too much but i dont eat it in copius quantity.

i can eat chips and chocolate whole day but i wont eat past 2k calories of it so i wont gain weight

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

im buying reta so i can lean bulk im like twink 128lbs 5'9 176cm and like 16% bf.

Im very bad at sticking to a meal plan cuz i been fed sugar and carbs so much and if i go keto or do some shit it ends up super bad. I plan to eat hella protein, something like 190g of protein daily with 100-300 calorie surplus daily , and take reta as i do it to stop the carb and sugar urges.

Beef aside, this is dumb asl bro why are u taking reta to bulk yk that shit suppresses your eppitie all the way down to the point where u can barely eat 1500 cals a day.
Then u shouldn't even bulking if your natty and your also 16% bf so doing a 300 cal surplus as a natty is gonna leave u at 20% within 2 months and u wont be able to gain size passed that bf bc your insulin is to fucked up.

My advice go on a cut with reta down to 10% then bulk on steroids

 

[ihatemybabyface]

im buying reta so i can lean bulk

i wanna see you eat 3k cals with reta lol

 

[FiendFiend]

Beef aside, this is dumb asl bro why are u taking reta to bulk yk that shit suppresses your eppitie all the way down to the point where u can barely eat 1500 cals a day.
Then u shouldn't even bulking if your natty and your also 16% bf so doing a 300 cal surplus as a natty is gonna leave u at 20% within 2 months and u wont be able to gain size passed that bf bc your insulin is to fucked up.

My advice go on a cut with reta down to 10% then bulk on steroids

i dont want to age and get my collagen raped from roids and have other complications i can put on muscle no doubt, my uncle was a body builder its just shit eating habbits.

Ima prob workout on maintenance and spam eat protein. And reta will help me not enjoy food and if i wanna eat like 1.7k calories ts is legit gonna be a struggle.

Issue is i enjoy food too much if i feel disgustingly full and dont have the voices in my head it'll go down easily.

@chadisbeingmade even acknowledged its not a shit idea

 

[FiendFiend]

i wanna see you eat 3k cals with reta lol

my bulk isnt 3k luckily id rope if it was

 

[ihatemybabyface]

my bulk isnt 3k luckily id rope if it was

with reta youd be happy to eat atleast 1,5k cals a day

but goodluck man

 

[FiendFiend]

with reta youd be happy to eat atleast 1,5k cals a day

but goodluck man

matters abt dose, my 100 calorie surplus is legit like 1.5-1.6k range anyway

 

[chadisbeingmade]

yk that shit suppresses your eppitie all the way down to the point where u can barely eat 1500 cals a day.

Not really. Maybe in the initial stages, but it gives you apatite control/0 food nose instead of apatite suppression really. I was still able to push 4k calories no issue on Reta while I was bulking. Was I hungry for 4k? No. But did I have issue getting 4k down? No. The feeling of hunger is gone, but you can still eat no problem. Especially when enhanced using reta year round is beneficial for your lipid profile, GLP1s are great for when using hGH since they are the single best insulin sensitizing agents. If you want true apatite nuking, take Cagrilintide.

Then u shouldn't even bulking if your natty and your also 16% bf so doing a 300 cal surplus as a natty is gonna leave u at 20% within 2 months and u wont be able to gain size passed that bf bc your insulin is to fucked up.

This is all correct, as I said also.

Not eating carbs is retarded.
Bulking at 16% bodyfat is retarded.

Cut all the way down to 10%, then do your 300 calorie surplus.

i dont want to age and get my collagen raped from roids and have other complications i can put on muscle no doubt, my uncle was a body builder its just shit eating habbits.

Raped collagen/aging can be mitigated no problem. If you roid correctly and take the right ancillaries you wont prematurely age yourself.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Not really. Maybe in the initial stages, but it gives you apatite control/0 food nose instead of apatite suppression really. I was still able to push 4k calories no issue on Reta while I was bulking. Was I hungry for 4k? No. But did I have issue getting 4k down? No. The feeling of hunger is gone, but you can still eat no problem. Especially when enhanced using reta year round is beneficial for your lipid profile, GLP1s are great for when using hGH since they are the single best insulin sensitizing agents. If you want true apatite nuking, take Cagrilintide.

This is all correct, as I said also.

Like u said u weren't hungry for it, ain't nobody tryna force feed for no reason and igf-1 would prop work better a glucose disposal agent when your on GH but u have to do 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off with out the appetite rape. And if your worried Abt your lipid profile there's plenty of ancelleries that can counter that with out the appetite rape. Wich would be L-gludithion, tudca, etc.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

i dont want to age and get my collagen raped from roids and have other complications i can put on muscle no doubt, my uncle was a body builder its just shit eating habbits.

Ima prob workout on maintenance and spam eat protein. And reta will help me not enjoy food and if i wanna eat like 1.7k calories ts is legit gonna be a struggle.

Issue is i enjoy food too much if i feel disgustingly full and dont have the voices in my head it'll go down easily.

@chadisbeingmade even acknowledged its not a shit idea

Just go on a cut bro and roids wont rape your collagen that much if u take epitholon a long with it

 

[chadisbeingmade]

ain't nobody tryna force feed for no reason

and igf-1 would prop work better a glucose disposal agent when your on GH but u have to do 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off.

There was no force feeding at all. It doesn’t become harder to eat, it’s just as easy to eat calories on reta as without. You just have the ability to stop whenever you want, or not. That’s what apatite control is.

And no, nothing comes close to GLP1 agonist for insulin sensitising and you don’t need to cycle it.

And if your worried Abt your lipid profile there's plenty of ancelleries that can counter that with the appetite rape. Wich would be L-gludithion, tudca, etc.

Which are completely incomparable to Reta. SR9009 is the only comparable alternative for lipids, but gets mogged by Reta anyway.

No good reason to not be on Reta on a bulk when enhanced. It is king at managing AAS induced sides.

Just go on a cut bro and roids wont rape your collagen that much if u take epitholon a long with it

Collagen/elastin loss is a consequence of DHT. Dut and topical anti androgens are the only way to truly prevent premature aging due to roids.

I recommend not taking on a subject you clearly lack basic knowledge on.

 

[Sadist]

i got carb and sugar cravings i legit eat no protein, if eating becomes a chore it will be better. Im twink but i enjoy food a lot.

bruh

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

There was no force feeding at all. It doesn’t become harder to eat, it’s just as easy to eat calories on reta as without. You just have the ability to stop whenever you want, or not. That’s what apatite control is.

And no, nothing comes close to GLP1 agonist for insulin sensitising and you don’t need to cycle it.

Ah okay I see what u mean

Which are completely incomparable to Reta. SR9009 is the only comparable alternative for lipids, but gets mogged by Reta anyway.

No good reason to not be on Reta on a bulk when enhanced. It is king at managing AAS induced sides.

Fair enough, what do u think Abt ghrp6 to at least try to eat more clean food.. Bc 4k calories I imagine was goyslop thrown and there or call clean?

Collagen/elastin loss is a consequence of DHT. Dut and topical anti androgens are the only way to truly prevent premature aging due to roids.

I recommend not taking on a subject you clearly lack basic knowledge on.

Nigga its obvious its caused by DHT I just recommended Epith bc it also helps fucking idiot

 

[chadisbeingmade]

what do u think Abt ghrp6 to at least try to eat more clean food..

If you are trying to increase your apatite you need constantly agonise ghrelin and stimulate peristalsis.

One pin of 250mcg GHRP6 and you should be able to eat an entire cow.

Quetiapine is a strong inducer of apatite also, but all psychiatric drugs are garbage. I wouldn’t touch it.

Bc 4k calories I imagine was goyslop thrown and there or call clean?

Like 1 non clean meal a day on average.

Epith bc it also helps f

Helps for sleep more than anything else.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

If you are trying to increase your apatite you need constantly agonise ghrelin and stimulate peristalsis.

One pin of 250mcg GHRP6 and you should be able to eat an entire cow.

Quetiapine is a strong inducer of apatite also, but all psychiatric drugs are garbage. I wouldn’t touch it.

Got it, I just wanna eat all clean food when I'm cycle but don't wanna take Mk bc I took that shit like a year ago and it raped my stomach.
For my rad 140 cycle I just did my normal appetite but I was also tryna body recomp not bulk

Like 1 non clean meal a day on average.


Helps for sleep more than anything else.

Ah okay type shit, yeah I would only eat smt dirty if its like pre workout

 

[powerliftercoco]

Fastest way is PSMF. It's basically the only way I cut now, with weekend refeeds (I'm enhanced, but works natty also). 0 strength loss after I recarb up, no muscle loss etc. Follow that and make sure you try lose no strength in the gym.

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I don’t have that much trouble losing bf, but this diet seems promising for getting it done quicker.

I had never heard of it, do you follow the 10g fish oil recommendation (from the link) for your essential fat intake? And the supplement recommendations?

Is your refeed on the weekends purely coming from carbs until you hit maintenance calories or you add a bit more fat intake?

I always did refeeds purely from carbs but my fat intake never got that low, so don’t know

 

[chadisbeingmade]

I had never heard of it, do you follow the 10g fish oil recommendation (from the link) for your essential fat intake?

I take 8 fish oil caps a day when I am doing it.

Is your refeed on the weekends purely coming from carbs until you hit maintenance calories or you add a bit more fat intake?

I lower the protein intake back to my regular intake, or even slightly below. Enhanced it's usually recommended for 1.5g per lbs, 1g gives lackluster results when trying to grow, but on the weekend refeed I will drop anywhere between 1-1.5g per lbs protein. 50g fat and the rest filled with carbs. Maximize carbs as much as possible on those days since you won't be eating any throughout the week, and otherwise your workouts will suffer too much. When you refeed it's really up to you. If you are a catagory 1 individual (sub 15% bodyfat), you shouldn't be going more than 12 days without refeeding.