PSL vs IRL vs SMV

[BigBoy]

good post

i had always wondered how a 4 psl looked and was confused since avg irl is not the avg here. there are significantly more u=subhumans irl than the users who posts here.

but the 3rd psl 4 is a psl 5 easy

How do I attract curvy (not fatties) girls?

by gymcelling/having a big frame

the rabbit hole goes deeper, theres subsets of your "looksmaxxing" performance aka SMV, attracting different types of women based on your dressing style, whether tatted or not and body fat levels. One can still get hot women while bloated, theyll just be thicker themselves usually.

youll need diff looks based on what youre trying to attract (obviously)

For North America only:

gym girls usually go for gym guys (usually white)
sex industry (cam girls/strippers/hookers/porn stars) usually go for drug dealer/ethnic degens
JBs usually go for white pretty boys
asians go for white males usually, no specialization required
latinas go for latinos of all kinds and white men (sometimes blacks)
models go for guys of avg build, but cleancut and accomplished

what do you mean by thick? fat, or curvy?

 

[Over]

Shit thread. Stopped reading after seeing Cavill as PSL6 along with narrow cuck prince of Recessed Kingdom.

 

[shimada]

How do I attract curvy (not fatties) girls?

Gym (steroid look), bad boy/fuckboy haircut, matching dress style and tattoos are optional

 

[betamanlet]

Lol @ how originally people felt there were no true 10s, hence how PSL rating system came to be. Even the best looking men were rated only 8. Now that PSL 8 has become the official top rating in the system, eventually people will begin thinking that no man is PSL 8. At that point Gandy, Chico etc will be PSL 6-7. Then the system gets even narrower. Eventually there will be PSL 0 (the incel), PSL 1.5 (the normie) and PSL 1 (the chad)

 

[6'4 looksmaxxxer]

@LordNorwood high iq effort brotha based and blackpilled

 

[LordNorwood]

Read everything. Good thread
But I disagree that phenos and coloring shouldn’t be taken into consideration. Of course they should

I agree they should be considered, but they should come into play in the IRL rating and not in PSL.

Lol @ how originally people felt there were no true 10s, hence how PSL rating system came to be. Even the best looking men were rated only 8. Now that PSL 8 has become the official top rating in the system, eventually people will begin thinking that no man is PSL 8. At that point Gandy, Chico etc will be PSL 6-7. Then the system gets even narrower. Eventually there will be PSL 0 (the incel), PSL 1.5 (the normie) and PSL 1 (the chad)

Yeh hopefully this solves that problem, people need to accept theoretical absolutes and base the scale on that. It doesn't really matter that there is no PSL 8 in actuality or a true 10/10

Not really, a composite of 32 faces is enough to determine averageness (bear in mind I didn't say average) of a phenotype

Regarding your post, I remember having an autistic fixation on the ratings but as time passed psl made me realize beauty is actually more subjective than it seems (not bluepilled subjective obviously).

In an ideal world we would get a supercomputer to draw the ideal male and female and compare that face to the given subject. That way ratings are standardized and objective. But you've also seen it firsthand, one man's 7.5 is another man's 6. We all grew with different experiences and phenotypes and have had different childhood crushes which all mold the bias when we rate faces. One solution to this is to introduce variance. I know that females have a much higher variance than males do (at least when males rate, I'll assume the opposite is true). As a ballpark number it could be say, +- 1. A problem to this however is that there's almost no variance from average and below. Ugly is damn ugly no matter who you are.

I think we should just measure attractiveness (not aesthetics) with clusterings. This is also what @Deliciadecu in a post suggested. You'll notice it is the most natural to users here. What the fuck does a psl 5.75 have over a psl5.5 for instance.

Deformed
ugly
Low tier normie
Average normie
High tier normie
Chadlite
Chad

Tldr attention from females is all that matters.
Also jfl at how psl scale keep changing.

At one point is out of 10, then 9 and now it's 8.

Yeah I agree cluster rating makes more sense.
Here on the site ratings are all over the place and you're right, it's hard to see what a PSL 6 has over a 5 for example. It's usually just users focusing in on a couple flaws and then basing their rating off of that and there are frequent disagreements. I tried to roughly do the following -
PSL 3 - below average, lower tier normie to kinda ugly looking
PSL 4 - Average, normie looking
PSL 5 - Upper tier normie, for sure good looking to most
PSL 6 - Chadlite
PSL 7 - Chad
with PSL 2 and below being legit ugly

 

[TsarTsar444]

I disagree mainly on Cavil being only a 6 lol, i would argue easily that women would prefer him over Ballou or Chico for instance

 

[LordNorwood]

I disagree mainly on Cavil being only a 6 lol, i would argue easily that women would prefer him over Ballou or Chico for instance

Fair enough. I think Ballou and Chico have facially better features. But Cavill might very well have a much higher IRL rating due to being much more masculine and robust. Part of my point is that PSL should only rate your face.

 

[Deleted member 3195]

tbh

 

[LordNorwood]

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hilarious subhuman pics
IMO Garfield should be hella dropped, dude is a notorious small-skull cel
but from responses in this thread I'm getting the feel we could all quibble about pictures all day, more important is getting a set of actual guidelines down

 

[Deleted member 2227]

Fair enough. I think Ballou and Chico have facially better features. But Cavill might very well have a much higher IRL rating due to being much more masculine and robust. Part of my point is that PSL should only rate your face.

To be honest the first time that I entered in this site I started to rate people with High Rating only by how much the person impresses me, I started to think that Ramirez was probably one the most beautiful male in the world, since he was not only DOM asf, but his traits like nose and mouth are perfectly shaped basically, the eyes too.

Many of these Tik Tok kids seems incredible GL, some people said that I overrate some of them but these people don't understand how many things have to go right and how with little deviation of ideal can ruin the entire thing.


Something that I perceived in the rates of users

They tend to overrate people with similar traits to them, like overrating a trait of the eyes, or giving lower ratings to people with traits that they don't have.

People tend to giver higher ratings to more masc compared to PrettyBoys, this doesn't makes sense and is probably because the retarded classification that I never used called Chad, Chadlite etc... PSL seems something purely based in AESTHETICS, Chico Lachowski would mogs to death most "Chads"

I already said that most users here can't rate, I caught many times people saiyng that Chico is boneless, what would mean two things that I already explained so maybe I try to found the post later

-They don't know what a Boneless person looks like

-They don't know what is the purpose of bones and that's why they overrate them too much, and this for me mean that they can't rate are much more in a retarded Bias than purely objectively or with at least knowledge about development

Things like forehead shape is much more important than a big browbridge and some people don't seems to understand.

I think if people only rated based in

Below avarage / Avarage / Above avarage would be better than numbers and other classifications I think

 

[LordNorwood]

To be honest the first time that I entered in this site I started to rate people with High Rating only by how much the person impresses me, I started to think that Ramirez was probably one the most beautiful male in the world, since he was not only DOM asf, but his traits like nose and mouth are perfectly shaped basically, the eyes too.

Many of these Tik Tok kids seems incredible GL, some people said that I overrate some of them but these people don't understand how many things have to go right and how with little deviation of ideal can ruin the entire thing.


Something that I perceived in the rates of users

They tend to overrate people with similar traits to them, like overrating a trait of the eyes, or giving lower ratings to people with traits that they don't have.

People tend to giver higher ratings to more masc compared to PrettyBoys, this doesn't makes sense and is probably because the retarded classification that I never used called Chad, Chadlite etc... PSL seems something purely based in AESTHETICS, Chico Lachowski would mogs to death most "Chads"

I already said that most users here can't rate, I caught many times people saiyng that Chico is boneless, what would mean two things that I already explained so maybe I try to found the post later

-They don't know what a Boneless person looks like

-They don't know what is the purpose of bones and that's why they overrate them too much, and this for me mean that they can't rate are much more in a retarded Bias than purely objectively or with at least knowledge about development

Things like forehead shape is much more important than a big browbridge and some people don't seems to understand.

I think if people only rated based in

Below avarage / Avarage / Above avarage would be better than numbers and other classifications I think

redpilled af post and completely accurate
most people really are making a loose IRL rating but just call it a PSL rating and its mostly based on their personal preferences and not any actual standards
Chico boneless? Fucking COPE

 

[Deleted member 2227]

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I don't know to be honest

 

[Deleted member 3202]

Gym (steroid look), bad boy/fuckboy haircut, matching dress style and tattoos are optional

I think I'll leave out the tatoos part, thanks

good post

i had always wondered how a 4 psl looked and was confused since avg irl is not the avg here. there are significantly more u=subhumans irl than the users who posts here.

but the 3rd psl 4 is a psl 5 easy

by gymcelling/having a big frame

what do you mean by thick? fat, or curvy?

 

[shimada]

I think I'll leave out the tatoos part, thanks


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That's the body type of my girlfriend

I did steroids + beard

Just make sure you're bigger than them otherwise theyll feel fat lol

 

[BigBoy]

I think I'll leave out the tatoos part, thanks


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thats my type. too bad almost no women have this figure

That's the body type of my girlfriend

I did steroids + beard

Just make sure you're bigger than them otherwise theyll feel fat lol

what race and psl is she?

 

[Deleted member 3202]

thats my type. too bad almost no women have this figure

what race and psl is she?

My father used to tell me that it's abnormal to like these women, that they looked "disgusting." Said I'm like a black man, lol.

 

[BigBoy]

My father used to tell me that it's abnormal to like these women, that they looked "disgusting." Said I'm like a black man, lol.

your father is low t tbh

 

[Deleted member 3202]

your father is low t tbh

Good to see there are fellow curvy lovers.

That's the body type of my girlfriend

I did steroids + beard

Just make sure you're bigger than them otherwise theyll feel fat lol

I have the perfect V-tapered body.

 

[Deleted member 3962]

i am 5.5 at 20% bodyfat, are you indeed mirin?

 

[shimada]

I think I'll leave out the tatoos part, thanks


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thats my type. too bad almost no women have this figure

what race and psl is she?

Around 5, Brazilian

But her SMV blows mine away 5 multiverses over

 

[LordNorwood]

i am 5.5 at 20% bodyfat, are you indeed mirin?

I am legit mirin son

 

[Deleted member 3202]

I am legit mirin son

What PSL do you rate yourself?

 

[Deleted member 3962]

I am legit mirin son

as it should be. i will indeed become a PSL 7 slayer after 10% bodyfat and fixing my maxilla and jaw. indeed.

 

[LordNorwood]

as it should be. i will indeed become a PSL 7 slayer after 10% bodyfat and fixing my maxilla and jaw. indeed.

You better son

 

[Deleted member 3962]

You better son

i will be on the catwalk with gandy and i will whisper to gandy "hey, buddy boyo, titbot does in fact mog you." and walk away like the king that i am. gandy will indeed drop to the floor in utter despair and i will return to drink his fallen tears.

 

[born2shitforced2wipe]

average is subhuman, so psl is your actual attractiveness, irl means nothing

 

[Deleted member 439]

devastated that i wasnt tagged in this ngl

 

[LordNorwood]

devastated that i wasnt tagged in this ngl

Sorry mate, I knew I was forgetting a lot of users when I posted it

 

[bassfreak]

thats my type. too bad almost no women have this figure

what race and psl is she?

they are latinas
also my type AF
Im from Poland so there is almost zero chance to meet girl like that , fuck i need go to mexico

people who say that they are ugly or fat are super low T faggots
i would bang her until my dick fell off , just look at this perfect breeding material btw the one on photo have white father and african mom not latina

 

[Deleted member 2227]

devastated that i wasnt tagged in this ngl

Oy Vey

 

[turkproducer]

Good thread trash examples tbh ngl

 

[Phillybeard1996]

they are latinas
also my type AF
Im from Poland so there is almost zero chance to meet girl like that , fuck i need go to mexico

people who say that they are ugly or fat are super low T faggots
i would bang her until my dick fell off , just look at this perfect breeding material btw the one on photo have white father and african mom not latina

I wish she fuks the asian outta me

 

[Averagecel]

@cocainecowboy this one is for you. see how race is excluded, etc. of course this just shows that a PSL rating is pointless in and of itself. so to that extent you’re right about it being pointless.

PSL rating isn't pointless, It's just an objective rating system that measures aesthetics, not sex appeal. It's a major component of your IRL rating. Did you even read OP's post? IRL rating is what matters, but you can't know your IRL rating without knowing your PSL rating.

 

[LordNorwood]

PSL rating isn't pointless, It's just an objective rating system that measures aesthetics, not sex appeal. It's a major component of your IRL rating. Did you even read OP's post? IRL rating is what matters, but you can't know your IRL rating without knowing your PSL rating.

Reading comprehension off the charts, wish I could like your post twice

 

[Pietrosiek]

It shouldn't be affected by a subject's most controversially, their phenotype and coloration.

No. Pheno type is very important for your features too.
This list is shit most people are around 4 or even 4.5psl. Chico Barret gandy Ballou all supermodel are 8psl. Your 6psl are fucking 7 at least. Pattinson? Thats just chadlite? No way

 

[SteveRogers]

Where's my boy Adam Sandler on the PSL scale, you mentioned a problem finding an 8 yet here he was all this time.

 

[Averagecel]

Reading comprehension off the charts, wish I could like your post twice

Thnx. I think everyone should be able to understand this concept. You made it simple to understand.

 

[LordNorwood]

Thnx. I think everyone should be able to understand this concept. You made it simple to understand.

Thanks man I sincerely appreciate that.

No. Pheno type is very important for your features too.
This list is shit most people are around 4 or even 4.5psl. Chico Barret gandy Ballou all supermodel are 8psl. Your 6psl are fucking 7 at least. Pattinson? Thats just chadlite? No way

My scale is different from the old scale. Actually was there ever even an actual scale?
Also yes phenos are very important that's why they factor heavily into your IRL score.

 

[BigBoy]

they are latinas
also my type AF
Im from Poland so there is almost zero chance to meet girl like that , fuck i need go to mexico

people who say that they are ugly or fat are super low T faggots
i would bang her until my dick fell off , just look at this perfect breeding material btw the one on photo have white father and african mom not latina

dead srs, guys who would not smash are closet homosexuals ded srs

 

[Virgincel]

Brad mogs Gandy

 

[LordNorwood]

Brad mogs Gandy

No

 

[Virgincel]

No

Yes

 

[LordNorwood]

Yes

Well I think we've both made our stances clear.

Spoiler

Again.

 

[middayshowers]

I agree with the guide but ngl the specificity of 0-8 just confuses me

I would rather have a simple 5 point system of: very unattractive, unattractive, average, attractive, very attractive

or at least a scale that goes from 1 to 10 (... as one would expect) with 1 being trucel and 10 being gigachad

 

[LordNorwood]

I agree with the guide but ngl the specificity of 0-8 just confuses me

I would rather have a simple 5 point system of: very unattractive, unattractive, average, attractive, very attractive

or at least a scale that goes from 1 to 10 (... as one would expect) with 1 being trucel and 10 being gigachad

Would be easy enough to make a ten point system and just bisect each cluster. "High" average and "low" average, etc.

 

[Marsiere214]

a decent rating system with common sense

 

[tyronelite]

High IQ. Location is key, I’ve always done better with Canadian and European women

 

[BigBoy]

I agree with the guide but ngl the specificity of 0-8 just confuses me

I would rather have a simple 5 point system of: very unattractive, unattractive, average, attractive, very attractive

or at least a scale that goes from 1 to 10 (... as one would expect) with 1 being trucel and 10 being gigachad

we already have that:

ugly
low-tier normie
normie
hightier normie
chadlite
chad
gigachad

 

[tehVigilante]

high iq thread

the rabbit hole goes deeper, theres subsets of your "looksmaxxing" performance aka SMV, attracting different types of women based on your dressing style, whether tatted or not and body fat levels. One can still get hot women while bloated, theyll just be thicker themselves usually.

youll need diff looks based on what youre trying to attract (obviously)

For North America only:

gym girls usually go for gym guys (usually white)
sex industry (cam girls/strippers/hookers/porn stars) usually go for drug dealer/ethnic degens
JBs usually go for white pretty boys
asians go for white males usually, no specialization required
latinas go for latinos of all kinds and white men (sometimes blacks)
models go for guys of avg build, but cleancut and accomplished

Good observation.